R. Dean is correct
Dave LaCourse
two RVs to Waveland, MS to be used for housing by recovery workers.
We also set up a 35 foot square tent to sleep more workers.
Waveland is worse than a war zone. Homes from the shore inland for up
to a mile no longer exist. The storm surge reached unbelievable
hights. We saw parts of houses caught 20 feet up in trees. Clothing,
appliances, furniture was everywhere. Most usinesses were totally
detstroyed. The town hall, and the fire and police dept buildings
were completely swept away. We found the town hall location by
looking for a memorial to a hurricane (Camille?) in 1969.
Most people lost everything they owned. House, furniture, appliances,
cars, you-name-it. And, it wasn't just those folks that live near the
shore. The storm surge went inland 6 miles on Rt 403 and across I10.
On the underpass of 403 and I10, there is a high water mark at least
25 feet from the road.
Waveland and Pass Christian were far worse that anything New Orleans
saw. Fortunately the Mississippi governor had the NG in the day after
the storm picking up survivors, plowing roads (mud up to a foot thick
in places), cutting up trees and picking up debris. Folks used to
park their cars on Rt403 heading north from the town because it was a
high spot and survived all previous hurricanes. Not Katrina. A
hundred or so cars are still sitting in the ditch and woods having
been swept there by the tidal surge. All pine trees that were
underwater have since died, giving the place an eerie look.
There is no potable water and only a few places have electricity. No
stores are open - folks have to drive to Gulfport for food and water.
Several churches from Alabama set up a soup kitchen on the corner of
Rts 90 and 403 and they are feeding three meals to more than 1000
people each day. It's the only place in town were you can get a drink
of water. Or ice.
On a tour of the devastation our van broke down and required a jump.
A middle aged couple stopped and got us going again. They were happy,
pleasant, and we thought that they too were outsiders. They weren't.
They lost everything they had and are now living in a pop-up camper on
the slab that was once their home.
Although there were rich folks who lost everything, most of the
destroyed home belonged to hard-working folks that were anything but
rich in material things. In spirit and mind, they are far richer than
anyone I've ever met. They aren't bitching and moaning about
government help. They are rolling up their sleeves and getting on
with their lives.
I'm glad to be home, but my thoughts will be in Waveland and Pass
Cristian.
Happy to see that the F4 thread is up to over 200 replies, and that
people are still picking on Wolfgang.
Dave
Ken Fortenberry
> I just got back from a week long trip to Mississippi. ...
From the Subject: header I expected a Cadillac count and
a rant against the Red Cross.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Mike Connor
"Dave LaCourse" <dplac...@pirateaol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3dj2l1dfohm9883pu...@4ax.com...
Mr.Dean may well be correct, he had no particular reason to lie.
You are doubtless also correct, and your account truthful.
Unfortunately you ruined it by being petty at the end of it.
Charity begins at home.
TL
MC
Wolfgang
"Dave LaCourse" <dplac...@pirateaol.com> wrote in message
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> ...Waveland is worse than a war zone.....
Napalming the survivors, are they?
> Happy to see that the F4 thread is up to over 200 replies, and that
> people are still picking on Wolfgang.
Well, it beats burning babies. :)
Wolfgang
who can't help it......what with being evil and all.
Dave LaCourse
<mike-...@t-online.de> wrote:
>Unfortunately you ruined it by being petty at the end of it.
Why must you be such an insufferable prig?
Wolfgang
BANG!......WHIZZZZZZ...... POW!!!!!
WHOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!
You ever wonder how life might be different if you could identify the target
BEFORE the barrage? :)
Wolfgang
who, personally, wonders.......now that dicklet and davie have
single-handedly saved the world........what's next?
Wayne Knight
"Wolfgang" <wolf...@mcw.edu> wrote in message
news:3rdrv0F...@individual.net...
>
>what's next?
That would be all the poor single mothers having more kids to get bigger
checks
Wolfgang
> ...On a tour of the devastation our van broke down and required a jump....
<SIGH!>
What does it take to get a good tour these days?
I mean, time was when a boy could get a really good guide........and maybe a
couple of semi-clean hookers for twenty/thirty bucks worth of food stamps.
<SIGH!>
:(
Wolfgang
who love you long time, ichiban sailorsan........ainna?
p.s. jump this. :)
Wolfgang
Ah, the good life!
I been thinkin' bout goin' down ther my own self.........pick up a bit a'
strange......hell, the ol' lady'll never know, huh? ;-)
Wolfgang
gittin' that ol' jungle fever.
Wolfgang
WHOOOOOWHEEEEE!!!!!!
Jist six 'a ya'll??!!
DANG!
Wolfgang
the next time somebody asks ya'll about where all the REAL heroes have
gone.........
Wolfgang
"Wayne Knight" <wrkn...@nocomcast.net> wrote in message
news:8oydnbB55OT...@comcast.com...
And TENTS!!
Don't forget about the TENTS!!
Wolfgang
Wolfgang
Not me.
Wolfgang
who must be a lot smarter........and perhaps a bit whiter.
Wolfgang
> cars, you-name-it.
Um.....o.k......I name it......mmmmm......"Bob".
Wolfgang
who knows that when "r. dean"......better (and more correctly) known as
"dicklet" eats a bullet it will indeed be correct.
Wolfgang
> ...I'm glad to be home....
As a collective sigh goes up from the entire population (well, the human
population , anyway) of the entire gulf coast.
Now, was there anything else you wanted to discuss? Progeny, perhaps?
Wolfgang
mah mama always said, "evil is as evil does." :)
Wolfgang
> 25 feet from the road.....
Well.......golly.
Wolfgang
who once (honest to gosh!) saw a high water mark hundreds of miles from U.S.
41*.
*no, REALLY!
David Snedeker
Don't know about that but . . . some of the movers and shakers in Deano's
area got caught using the Red Cross shelters to house illegal Mexican
workers they brought into the area AFTER KATRINA, neatly avoiding having to
actually pay their illegal workers for food and housing. The local Sheriff
apparently raided the shelters on the information that these workers that
the contractors and casinos brought in were dealing drugs and intimidating
legitimate hurricane victims as well as scamming the Red Cross. In a very
cleaver PR move the local bigshots bamboozled the media into reporting the
story from a discrimination angle! The Sheriff was also pressured to back
off. But were the contractor/casino illegal workers moved out of the
shelters? Hummmmmmmm.
Since Deano is on the scene, is a local BFD and mover and shaker, and knows
so much about the RED CROSS, Im wondering just how much he can enlighten
ROFF on this despicable scam. But alas, he has not been much in evidence
since the despicable scam was first reported.
Dave
Ideology fa schifo
Dave LaCourse
Christian. There was NG, FEMA, and local help, but no RC. Why? I
don't know. The NG were in within hours after the storm passed and
they were able to move. I talked to many survivors and they never
spoke of the RC.
Dave
Wayne Knight
>I talked to many survivors and they never
> spoke of the RC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9518677/
Dave LaCourse
<wrkn...@nocomcast.net> wrote:
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9518677/
I didn't work in Gulfport, Wayne. There was no evidence of the RC in
Waveland and Pass Christian. There was a lot of church workers and
FEMA and NG, but no RC. Sorry.....
Dave
Wolfgang
Hm........
So, one day the Red Cross is raked over the coals for thinking ahead, not
using all of the funds gathered in the aftermath of a particular disaster
for the immediate relief thereof. O.k., they say, we'll do that in the
future. Next time at bat they do just that......and everybody is outraged.
What a pity that stupidity isn't good for much. It appears to be the
world's most abundant inexhaustible resource. :)
Wolfgang
Wayne Knight
Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
> I didn't work in Gulfport, Wayne. There was no evidence of the RC in
> Waveland and Pass Christian. There was a lot of church workers and
> FEMA and NG, but no RC. Sorry.....
>
I was just presenting the link. People can read into it anything they
want to.
Wolfgang
"Wayne Knight" <wrkn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1129643720.1...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
And they do.
One can hardly suppose that dicklet's and davie's presentation of their own
putative observations (all the while denying their agenda) as evidence that
the Red Cross is entirely absent from the Gulf Coast is anything but
disingenuous.....um.....unless we want to examine the notion that they are
both stupider than even I am willing to give them credit for.
Wolfgang
who, it should be noted, does not mean to suggest that he is incapable of
underestimation.
Dave LaCourse
wrote:
>I was just presenting the link. People can read into it anything they
>want to.
And I was presenting what I saw first hand. There may well have been
RC in Gulfport, but, again, I didn't seem them. We had to go to
Gulfport to get food, water, gasoline, etc. It was extremely crowded
with people, and would be the ideal place for the RC to set up.
Dave
Ken Fortenberry
>
> And I was presenting what I saw first hand. There may well have been
> RC in Gulfport, but, again, I didn't seem them. We had to go to
> Gulfport to get food, water, gasoline, etc. It was extremely crowded
> with people, and would be the ideal place for the RC to set up.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
http://www.redcross.org/news/photoessays/katrina/four/
Not only does the Red Cross have a presence in Gulfport, Mississippi,
the Red Cross has a shelter and the shelter is up and running.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Danl
"astronauts on the moon" and we all know that was just a big lie too. These
"Red Cross in Gulfport" pictures were probably made at the same
double-naught secret studio as those "moon" pictures. Didn't you read from
eye-witnesses that there ain't no RC in GP? What's next, Ken? Are you gonna
start rumors about "concentration camps during WW II" ?
Sheesh!!
Danl
"Ken Fortenberry" <kenfort...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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Wolfgang
"Danl" <dfinn@*removethis*tfb.com> wrote in message
news:11lac5n...@corp.supernews.com...
> Oh sure, Ken. That don't prove nuthin! We have all seen "pictures" of
> "astronauts on the moon" and we all know that was just a big lie too.
> These "Red Cross in Gulfport" pictures were probably made at the same
> double-naught secret studio as those "moon" pictures. Didn't you read from
> eye-witnesses that there ain't no RC in GP?
TWO eyewitnesses, both of them notorious for their balanced perspectives,
unwavering dedication to fairness, abhorence of distortion, lack of bias,
keen perception, eagerness to give all due consideration (and then some) to
opposing views, and all around goodguyness.
> What's next, Ken? Are you gonna start rumors about "concentration camps
> during WW II" ?
Um......well, there WAS that unfortunate little misunderstanding in
California.
> Sheesh!!
Indeed.
Wolfgang
Ken Fortenberry
> Oh sure, Ken. That don't prove nuthin! We have all seen "pictures" of
> "astronauts on the moon" and we all know that was just a big lie too. These
> "Red Cross in Gulfport" pictures were probably made at the same
> double-naught secret studio as those "moon" pictures. Didn't you read from
> eye-witnesses that there ain't no RC in GP? What's next, Ken? Are you gonna
> start rumors about "concentration camps during WW II" ?
>
> Sheesh!!
I haven't yet figured out exactly why the rabid right wants
to dis the Red Cross. Is it because FEMA screwed the pooch
on a Republican's watch and they want to point out that the
Red Cross screwed up too ?
Anyway, I don't have to listen to Limbaugh (thank Gawd) because
whatever he rants about will eventually show up here as the
Dickie and Louie Ditto Show. ;-)
--
Ken Fortenberry
Dave LaCourse
<kenfort...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>A picture is worth a thousand words.
>
>http://www.redcross.org/news/photoessays/katrina/four/
That was Gulfport, Ken. I said it would be an ideal place for the RC
to set up since there was very little damage and people from Waveland
and Pass Christian went to Gulfport. However, there was no evidence
of RC helpers in Waveland, only churches from Alabam feeding the
people who had neither homes nor vehicles.
Why do you have to turn everything into a pissing contest?
Dave
Dave LaCourse
<kenfort...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>Anyway, I don't have to listen to Limbaugh (thank Gawd) because
>whatever he rants about will eventually show up here as the
>Dickie and Louie Ditto Show. ;-)
You're full of shit, Ken. I put my money where my mouth is. I did
something. And, I repeat again: There was no evidence of the RC in
either Pass Christian or Waveland, probably because there was NO
Waveland or Pass Christian for them to go to. No water, no
electricity, no houses, no businesses.
Dave
Ken Fortenberry
>
> ... And, I repeat again: There was no evidence of the RC in
> either Pass Christian or Waveland, probably because there was NO
> Waveland or Pass Christian for them to go to. No water, no
> electricity, no houses, no businesses.
And you said there was no Red Cross in Gulfport too, and you
repeated it again too. Is it safe to assume that you couldn't
find your own arse with both hands and a flashlight much less
a Red Cross shelter with hundreds of people in it ?
--
Ken Fortenberry
BJ Conner
theres "No water, no
electricity, no houses, no businesses."
nothing. Fat frat boys looking for there "use to be" beach mcmansions
should be on their own. IF the stuff is gone and the people are
somewhere else why should the Red Cross be there?
The Red Cross responded pretty good considering. The best analogy I've
heard for FEMA was "Theres a fire, lets order a fire engine!"
Tim J.
Because you keep pissing? Just a guess. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/
Sarge
http://www.redcross.org/news/photoessays/katrina/four/
Not only does the Red Cross have a presence in Gulfport, Mississippi, the
Red Cross has a shelter and the shelter is up and running."
When was the photo taken? The Red Cross has just started setting up
distribution centers in New Orleans about a week and half ago. There was no
Red Cross to be seen in the immediately affected areas for the first few
weeks. They claim they spent their time and efforts concentrating on
shelters in areas unaffected by the storm weather but affected by the mass
number of evacuees. This has not been confirmed by me.
I do know that while helping in the affected areas of Slidell, New Orleans,
and Metairie, I did not see one Red Cross worker or center. What I did see
was the Salvation Army going around feeding people, church groups and
business helping the community.
R Dean criticizes the Red Cross for the same thing I observed, yet some
people made rude comments as if he would post comments about the Red Cross
just because he does not like them. Now that someone else has verified that
their trip to the Mississippi Gulf Coast backs up R Dean other continue to
criticize.
Ken you wrote a picture is worth a thousand words. That is usually true but
if that picture was taken during the first week after there would be a lot
more people in the back ground of those pictures. I would bet that the
picture was taken within the last two weeks. I am not sure about the Gulf
Coast but I do know that most of the shelters in Louisiana are closed or
have very few people left in them. The shelter situation is probably the
same in Mississippi.
Sarge
Wolfgang
"Sarge" <lic...@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
news:dj3gm...@enews2.newsguy.com...
> ...This has not been confirmed by me....
Nor, to the best of our recollection, have daylight, gravity, the
circulation of blood, where babies come from, or the lyrics to Louie Louie.
And yet....... :)
Wolfgang
um......well, o.k., we'll give you that last one. :(
GaryM
news:dj3gm...@enews2.newsguy.com:
> Ken you wrote a picture is worth a thousand words. That is
> usually true but if that picture was taken during the first week
> after there would be a lot more people in the back ground of those
> pictures. I would bet that the picture was taken within the last
> two weeks.
http://www.redcross.org/news/photoessays/katrina/six/
"September 12-13, 2005 - Hurricane Katrina –Gulfport, Mississippi . Le
Thi is comforted by Red Cross worker Brian Fern of Muncie, Indiana. Le
Thi and her husband Chau do not want to leave their tent, but the area
where they are living is unsafe and they must leave. The Red Cross
workers reassure them that that they are welcome to stay at the local
Red Cross shelter. Photo: Johnny Perez/American Red Cross."
Wolfgang
"GaryM" <gmaddr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96F3A3BF83141R3...@68.116.174.103...
> "Sarge" <lic...@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in
> news:dj3gm...@enews2.newsguy.com:
>
>> Ken you wrote a picture is worth a thousand words. That is
>> usually true but if that picture was taken during the first week
>> after there would be a lot more people in the back ground of those
>> pictures. I would bet that the picture was taken within the last
>> two weeks.
>
> http://www.redcross.org/news/photoessays/katrina/six/
>
> Thi is comforted by Red Cross worker Brian Fern of Muncie, Indiana. Le
> Thi and her husband Chau do not want to leave their tent, but the area
> where they are living is unsafe and they must leave. The Red Cross
> workers reassure them that that they are welcome to stay at the local
> Red Cross shelter. Photo: Johnny Perez/American Red Cross."
Fake. No doubt about it. If you look closely at the picture it quickly
becomes obvious that it is a crudely photoshopped copy of an original that
showed three stupid white boys with their heads firmly up their (or each
other's......it's kinda hard to tell) asses.
Wolfgang
Ken Fortenberry
> ...
> I do know that while helping in the affected areas of Slidell, New Orleans,
> and Metairie, I did not see one Red Cross worker or center. What I did see
> was the Salvation Army going around feeding people, church groups and
> business helping the community.
>
> R Dean criticizes the Red Cross for the same thing I observed, yet some
> people made rude comments as if he would post comments about the Red Cross
> just because he does not like them. Now that someone else has verified that
> their trip to the Mississippi Gulf Coast backs up R Dean other continue to
The only thing verified is that some "first hand" observers
can be right on top of a Red Cross shelter and then report
to roff that there is no Red Cross presence in the area.
That doesn't pass the smell test. The Red Cross ain't perfect
and I don't know why they appear to be on the rabid right's
shit list right now but the Red Cross is one of the best ways
you can spend your charity dollar especially in times of disaster
and anybody who tells you different don't know shit from shinola.
And that includes the Dickie and Louie Ditto Show.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Wayne Knight
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
> And you said there was no Red Cross in Gulfport too, and you
> repeated it again too.
No, he typed :". There may well have been RC in Gulfport, but, again,
Dave LaCourse
<kenfort...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>And you said there was no Red Cross in Gulfport too, and you
>repeated it again too.
I said I saw no evidence of RC in Gulfport. I don't know if they were
there or not. But *no one* in Waveland spoke of the RC.
Your Shit Weasle is gonna get on you for not reading properly.
Dave
Dave LaCourse
wrote:
>That's were the red cross should have been. Not down there wheres
>theres "No water, no
>electricity, no houses, no businesses."
>I donate so they can get three hots and cot to the people who got
>nothing. Fat frat boys looking for there "use to be" beach mcmansions
>should be on their own. IF the stuff is gone and the people are
>somewhere else why should the Red Cross be there?
>The Red Cross responded pretty good considering. The best analogy I've
>heard for FEMA was "Theres a fire, lets order a fire engine!"
Have you been to Waveland or Pass Christian? There are many people
getting 3 hots and a cot from three churches in Alabama who have set
up a tent city on the corner of Rt90 and Rt430. No RC in sight,
anywhere, and no mention of it from the people who were there. "Beach
mcmansions?" I'm talkng about little homes that aren't good enough
for anyone on roff to live in, certainly not you or Fortenberry. Were
big mansions lost? Yes, but so where little homes *six miles* from
the ocean. You don't have beach mcmansions that far from the salt.
Dave
Dave LaCourse
wrote:
>No, he typed :". There may well have been RC in Gulfport, but, again,
>I didn't seem them."
Thanks you. If you have any influence with the shit weasle, turn him
lose on Fortenberry.
Dave
Dave LaCourse
<NOkpos...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
>Because you keep pissing? Just a guess. ;-)
Oh, I see. I report something and that's pissing. Right on Timmy.
JR
> "Tim J." wrote:
>> .....
> .....
Am I the only one slightly disturbed by seeing this subject line, even
if it's true, repeated quite so often.....? <g>
Dave LaCourse
<kenfort...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>The only thing verified is that some "first hand" observers
>can be right on top of a Red Cross shelter and then report
>to roff that there is no Red Cross presence in the area.
>
>That doesn't pass the smell test. The Red Cross ain't perfect
>and I don't know why they appear to be on the rabid right's
>shit list right now but the Red Cross is one of the best ways
>you can spend your charity dollar especially in times of disaster
>and anybody who tells you different don't know shit from shinola.
>And that includes the Dickie and Louie Ditto Show.
And you are full of shit, Ken. We asked the people we worked with,
the people we saw, the people who helped get our van jumped, and NO
ONE mentioned the RC. The NG was opening the streets of PC and WL
within hours of the storm. They church groups moved in, and the NG
and church groups are *still* helping out. We *asked* about who was
answering their needs and they said different churches. No one
mentioned the RC. Was the RC in Gulfport? I certainly hope so, but
GP wasn't hit very hard and the bridge between GP and Pass Christian
was blown out and couldn't be used. It must really piss you off that
someone actually named a city "Pass Christian", and they probably
deserved to be pushed off the map by the storm surge and the wind.
Dave
Wayne Knight
Dave LaCourse wrote:
> Thanks you. If you have any influence with the shit weasle, turn him
> lose on Fortenberry.
Sorry, no influence on who ever it is you refer. Just trying to keep it
balanced.
Wayne
Thomas Littleton
"Dave LaCourse" <dplac...@pirateaol.com> wrote :
>the RC. The NG ....PC and WL and GP
>
>
Good Lord, I am getting woozy from all the abbreviations, David!
I am glad to hear the Roman Catholics are assisted by the News Groups in
helping out the Politically Correct. I am well aware that
there are plenty of Witless Losers in the Grand old Party, but couldn't
believe that was what you meant by those last two sets of
letters.......
addled in Reading,
Tom
Tim J.
Dave, you just don't get it. In order to have a pissing "contest", more
than one person must participate. Sometimes the best strategy is to let
your opponent do all the pissing. They reveal themselves in the process
and, eventually, they will run dry. Well, except for Ken - he's full of
it and has a seemingly endless supply. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/
Wolfgang
"Wayne Knight" <wrkn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1129673988....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
>> Thanks you. If you have any influence with the shit weasle, turn him
>> lose on Fortenberry.
>
> Sorry, no influence on who ever it is you refer.
Hm.....
I think I know who that is......and you DO have some influence. None that
would do an inherently evil murderous welfare pig any good though.
:)
> Just trying to keep it balanced.
That's a crime here, you know.
Wolfgang
um.....not a felony like.....say, poverty, for instance......yet......but, a
crime nevertheless.
Wolfgang
"Dave LaCourse" <dplac...@pirateaol.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:22:45 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> <kenfort...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>And you said there was no Red Cross in Gulfport too, and you
>>repeated it again too.
>
> I said I saw no evidence of RC in Gulfport.
Lucky thing Wayne pointed that out. You'd never have figured it out
yourself in a million years. :)
> I don't know if they were
> there or not.
Which is not at all what you were trying to say.
> But *no one* in Waveland spoke of the RC.
Ah, so, you heard EVERYTHING that EVERYONE in Waveland said during your
vacation there?
> Your Shit Weasle is gonna get on you for not reading properly.
Weasel.
Wolfgang
who, despite long practice, still can't decide whether he likes being
visible or invisible better. but hell, it so much fun either way......who
really cares?
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>And you said there was no Red Cross in Gulfport too, and you
>>repeated it again too.
>
> I said I saw no evidence of RC in Gulfport. I don't know if they were
Well, I know. The Red Cross was there, in force, doing the
things we Americans donate money for them to do in a disaster
recovery area. The Red Cross was there before you got there,
the Red Cross was there during your visit and the Red Cross
is still there while you're sitting behind a keyboard in
Massachusetts talking nonsense on a fly fishing group.
So much for your "first hand" bullshit.
--
Ken Fortenberry
rw
too. And Bush.
--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
Frank Reid
> I am glad to hear the Roman Catholics are assisted by the News Groups in
> helping out the Politically Correct. I am well aware that
> there are plenty of Witless Losers in the Grand old Party, but couldn't
> believe that was what you meant by those last two sets of
> letters.......
>
> addled in Reading,
> Tom
And my Reading is addled.
--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply
Wolfgang
"Frank Reid" <ten.tsacmoc@diersicnarf> wrote in message
news:G7qdnZrS-ZP...@comcast.com...
>
>> I am glad to hear the Roman Catholics are assisted by the News Groups in
>> helping out the Politically Correct. I am well aware that
>> there are plenty of Witless Losers in the Grand old Party, but couldn't
>> believe that was what you meant by those last two sets of
>> letters.......
>>
>> addled in Reading,
>> Tom
>
> And my Reading is addled.
Hell, even with all the time wasted in tripping over muddled acronyms
subtractled (say, where the hell is Timmay when you really need him,
anyway?) who's got time to reid?
Wolfgang
Wayne Knight
> And I was presenting what I saw first hand.
And from 1996-2001 I made multiple trips to Massachusetts and never saw you,
tripper, Stan, Timmy, et al did that mean y'all did not exit?
I am sure the people you helped appreciate your generosity and trouble that
you went through to help them. and I think you could have made your point
about helping without drawing the red cross into this. Like the governmental
response, the red cross made some missteps, but the key is long after the
church group are gone to the next feel good crisis response, the red cross
is going to be there.
Here's a couple of links of Red Cross evidence in Waveland, note one of the
links speaks of rescue teams as a co-effort of the Red Cross and not Red
Cross per se. But then again you can do a search on web finding red cross
critiscm too..
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9591971/
http://tinyurl.com/a9qum
daytripper
wrote:
>
>"Dave LaCourse" <dplac...@pirateaol.com> wrote in message
>news:sjaal1tidje818v35...@4ax.com...
>
>> And I was presenting what I saw first hand.
>
>And from 1996-2001 I made multiple trips to Massachusetts and never saw you,
>tripper, Stan, Timmy, et al did that mean y'all did not exit?
Of course. Still don't, somewhere.
/daytripper (Or not)
Frank Reid
> subtractled (say, where the hell is Timmay when you really need him,
> anyway?) who's got time to reid?
Uhh, I'll GBTYOT (get back to you that).
Tim J.
Me, too.
rdean3...@flash.net
wrote:
>Danl wrote:
>> Oh sure, Ken. That don't prove nuthin! We have all seen "pictures" of
>> "astronauts on the moon" and we all know that was just a big lie too. These
>> "Red Cross in Gulfport" pictures were probably made at the same
>> double-naught secret studio as those "moon" pictures. Didn't you read from
>> eye-witnesses that there ain't no RC in GP? What's next, Ken? Are you gonna
>> start rumors about "concentration camps during WW II" ?
>>
>> Sheesh!!
>
>I haven't yet figured out exactly why the rabid right wants
>to dis the Red Cross. Is it because FEMA screwed the pooch
>on a Republican's watch and they want to point out that the
>Red Cross screwed up too ?
>
>Anyway, I don't have to listen to Limbaugh (thank Gawd) because
>whatever he rants about will eventually show up here as the
>Dickie and Louie Ditto Show. ;-)
I've only scanned this thread, but I had a few moments and looking for some
escape, checked up on good ol' ROFF. Here's the dicklet in Iowa (I'm currently
in TX eating babies and counting lowriders, but soon back in LA/MS counting
Caddies) take on the RC...
They - the RC - are helping, but last I saw (about Oct. 10th), it seemed totally
disproportionate to the "take." AND AGAIN, not accusing the RC of anything, I'm
just saying there may be better ways for those who wish to give to do so. And
that takes into account the "redirected" monies the RC says they are redirecting
through other organizations ie, the Southern Baptists' "cooking units." Here's
how I see it - if a person will only give to the RC and only some portion of
that generosity make it to those who need it, that's more than they would have
otherwise had, and thank y'all, but if more can go directly to those who need,
that would be my choice - YMMV.
But if anyone reading this wants to really help out, and the only way you can do
so is financially, my advice is to find a local "church" and get it directly to
the area. Don;t like that? Badger corporations with which you might have pull
to donate on-the-ground material (for example, I've managed to cajole, harass,
or shame a building materials co. to send stuff, a law firm to send a sure
enough real, live partner for some actual, real, on-the-firm's-nickel free legal
help ((as opposed to the pr/pb stuff)), etc. - if you know some corporate exec,
ride 'em like a rented mule...). The other thing one can do is to raise hell
with the insurance companies to be _fair_ with folks - I'm not talking about the
wind-vs-water issue, I'm talking giving folks half of what it will cost to
replace a roof or reimbursing a couple of USD for a 4'x8' sheet for plywood used
for roof patching.
Can't do any of the above? Fair enough. Here's some more ideas:
There are a lot of kids facing, well, plainly put, a pretty fucked up, dismal
holiday season. If a person were to start saving just a buck or two a week this
week, they'd be able to buy a few things come the middle of December. If anyone
on ROFF is interested, I suspect a little planning might brighten a few young
eyes, and I'll willingly, happily, and gratefully do what I can to get stuff to
kids. Don't like kids and/or the holidays? Fine. There are lots of
pets/critters that need either foster homes or permanent homes. Don't like
critters/pets/or for those of you in California, non-human companions? OK, you
sick bastard, but there are myriad other ways to help - seek and ye shall
find...
And if anyone has other ideas, by alls means, post 'em.
HTH,
Eleven-and-a-half-Iowan-eagles-....dick(let)
Wolfgang
<rdean3...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:ctpbl1978ske7aho0...@4ax.com...
> ...if anyone has other ideas...
Nope. Nobody here gots any ideas. I mean, why do you think we've all spent
a lifetime just waiting around for you to show up? Why do you think it is
that every time you leave us we just sit around in a funk, paralyzed with
indecision? Why do you think it is that our hearts leap with joy and
renewed vigor every time you return after weeks long absences to tell us
what we should do?
Wolfgang
o.k., o.k., try this on for size......the boy actually BELIEVES his own
shtick! huh? huh? :)