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George9219

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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For what its worth, following are Connecticut's official definitions of a fly
and fly fishing.

FLY: A single or double hook dressed with hair, feathers, tinsel, thread, yarn
or similar material to which no bait, spinner, spoon, plug, or other device is
added.

FLY FISHING: Angling with the use of a fly reel, fly rod, fly line, leader,
and a fly or flies. Extra weight may be built into the fly in its construction,
as in a weighted nymph, and additional weight may attatched to the leader or
line. The use of strike indicators is permitted.

George Adams

rb608

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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George9219 wrote in message
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I propose continuing this topic so that we might come to a practical
definition of fly fishing that we could all shout out to our respective
regulatory agencies. Maybe some official definitions are already
sufficient and concise. If so, I'd love to hear them. The Connecticut
definition above, however, falls short IMO because of what is does not
exclude. Under that definition, an angler use the chuck and duck method of
throwing weight but still be legally fly fishing so long as he used fly
fishing equipment. My own state regs (MD) are similarly vague.

As I've said before, what makes fly fishing mechanically different from spin
fishing is that with fly fishing, the fly is propelled by the weight of the
line itself, not by weight on the end of the line. Do you suppose we could
actually work constructively together on ROFF to devise a concise regulatory
definition of fly fishing that correctly and completely defines what we do?
How do your state regs handle it?

I'm serious. For this topic, at least, forget all the controvery and BS
we've been dealing with elsewhere and be rational and constructive. We
might actually accomplish something. (I better stop before I start singing
Cumbayah.)

Joe

rb608

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Charlie Choc wrote in message <36f10ebf....@news1.server.wcom.com>...

>"rb608" <stre...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>I propose continuing this topic so that we might come to a practical
>>definition of fly fishing that we could all shout out to our respective
>>regulatory agencies. Maybe some official definitions are already
>>sufficient and concise. If so, I'd love to hear them.
>
>I guess I don't understand whay fly fishing needs to be defined. Are
>you proposing fly-fishing only waters, special seasons, etc?
>--
>Charlie...

Yeah, that's pretty much it. If a state is going to have special fly
fishing only streams or seasons, it should IMHO have a decent definition of
what qualifies as fly fishing. In my home state of Maryland, we do have
FFO streams, and violations of the spirit of that regulation are not, to my
knowledge, a problem here. However, since I read this post right after a
discussion of fishing on the Salmon R. in NY, the abuse of the FFO
regulation there was fresh in my mind. I've kind of had a burr under my
saddle about that for a few years now. It's not my home state, but a
substantial portion of the economy in that area derives from we tourists.
If it's not a national problem though, maybe I'm just spinning wheels.

Joe
Joe

Charlie Choc

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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rb608 wrote:

>
> Yeah, that's pretty much it. If a state is going to have special fly
> fishing only streams or seasons, it should IMHO have a decent definition of
> what qualifies as fly fishing.

I don't think Georgia has any FF only public water, and I'm not sure I'd
be in favor of it. We do have artificial only/single hook, etc type
restrictions which I think are sufficient. I'd agree, though, that if
you have a FF only designation you need a good definition.
--
Charlie...

Mu Young Lee

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, rb608 wrote:

>
> George9219 wrote in message


> >For what its worth, following are Connecticut's official definitions of a
> fly and fly fishing.
> >
> >FLY: A single or double hook dressed with hair, feathers, tinsel, thread,
> yarn or similar material to which no bait, spinner, spoon, plug, or
> other device is added.
>

> Extra weight may be built into the fly in its construction,
> >as in a weighted nymph, and additional weight may attatched to the leader
> or line. The use of strike indicators is permitted.

This definition would make lead a head jig fly. I believe some states
have a clause saying that weight cannot be molded onto the hook.


Mu Young Lee

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, FiddleAway wrote:
>
> In my book, someone who uses a spinning outfit to cast a bubble with a six
> foot leader and a fly on the end is fly-fishing. I cannot see why you'd
> ever want to prevent someone from fishing in the above manner in waters
> intended for the more classical forms of angling with a fly rod. (Unless,
> of course, you're British! <g>).

Rhubarb, rhubarb, murmur, murmur
The right honorable gentleman from San Diego is full of CRAP!<g>
_______________________________________________________________________
Mu Young Lee Ann Arbor, MI USA


FiddleAway

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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I'm not sure how useful a strict definition of fly fishing would be.
California, like many other states, makes a distinction for fishing with a
single barbless hook and using artificial lures only which seems like the
right thing, management-wise. It's not clear to me why you'd ever want to
distinguish between fly fishers and spinning lure casters for purposes of
management.
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