GINK Answers
Mr. G
Dear R:
1) There is NO SILICONE/s in Gehrke's Gink. You never want to use a
dry
fly dressing that has silicone in it for the following reasons.
Silicone absorbs 10% of its weight in water because it has an open-ended
molecular structure. That is why there is bounce in silicone and what
helps
make it slick.
In paste form or liquid, silicone fly dressings are magnets to dirt.
Silicone mats the hackles in your flies, especially the small ones.
Yes, there are some very neat/cool ingredients in Gehrke's Gink but none
of the are 'active,' but rather passive. They stand on their own
positive
merits and each of them are designed to float your flies with a
vengeance.
Gink is .78% of the density of water which means Gehrke's Gink is
lighter
than water. (A real, neat feature)
Gink is a perfect emulsifier and changes character upon hitting cooler
water into a floating angel of magic characteristics. It will fight
white water
in order to keep your flies afloat. Gink will streak your salmon and
steelhead
flies and/or streamers with a waking streak on the surface that will
entice
the most stubborn of ironheads and hook jawed salmon.
Gehrke's Gink is listed with national poison centers as are ALL our
products
because we are the ONLY dressing company in the industry that has done
this because we are responsible people. This is not to say any of our
products
are poisonous, that just happens to be the name of those facilities.
Regardless,
when one uses and supports Gehrke's Gink, and you have a puppy or child
that
eats some of it, your doctors have a way out, quickly. Not so with all
the other
dressings. If that company is closed for the evening, tough. This is a
very, very
good reason for using the world's best dry fly dressing and/or Gehrke
products.
Because we are responsible and we don't want anyones puppy or child
getting
sick or reacting unfavorably to a foreign substance that is not designed
to be in
the tummy. My view is, there are people that are allergic to fresh
air. Everyone
is different and if there is just one person out their that is allergic
to anything, we
want your doctor to have the information to treat anything, immediately.
Gehrke's Gink turns to a liquid at skin temperature allowing the user to
get the
product deep, inside the dry fly all the way to the hook shank.
Gehrke's Gink
will float a #8 dry fly hook without any fly tying material on it.
That's quality!
Pastes do not get into the heart of many flies and tend to cake, mat,
become
sticky and dirty. This is not my idea of how a dry fly dressing should
behave.
Gehrke's Gink was the first commercial dry fly dressing ever invented in
the
world that would float a dry fly for more than one float without having
to
redress. Twenty five years ago, people were dying from carbon-tet
combinations desolving animal fats such as bear/goose/duck/groundhog/
squarrel and muskrat fats. The carbon tet has caused many old timers
and
fly fishermen to die of heart attacks. Gehrke's Gink is the first
commercial
dry fly dressing to save human life in the field of fly fishing. If I'm
proud of
anything I've done in my life . . . it has to be this one thing.
I hope this helps answer some of the questions you asked regarding "Why
Should I Buy Gehrke's Gink."
Sincerely to all,
Mr. George Gehrke
GINK: (R) is a Federally Registered Trade Mark as is GEHRKE'S,
separate or in combination.
Fred Rickson
to think you are losing it.....maybe gone already.
Fred Rickson
Mr. G <gi...@valint.net> wrote in article <36196FBC...@valint.net>...
> To Whom It May Concern: (Issued to a new thread line)
RLPPT
>>The carbon tet has caused many old timers
and fly fishermen to die of heart attacks.>>
So, this is what happened to all the independent dry cleaners..:) Actually,
George may have a point of sorts. Maybe it isn't quantifiable, but no exposure
to carbon tet has to beat some, no?
Homey D Klown
who cleaned those machines were dying of cirrosis of the liver, cancer, and
all sorts of nasty diseases. That's why it isn't used anymore.
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DavPLaC
Fred Ricson:
<<George, you make a good product, but comments such as those below lead me
to think you are losing it.....maybe gone already.>>
*What* did George say that made you think he was "losing it"?
He makes a good product and explained a whole helluva lot about it.
I seen nothing wrong with that.
One thing George didn't mention and it is important: Gink does not
change the color of a fly. You start out with a yellow body, you end
up with a yellow body. It is probably because there is no silicone or
other dirt-attracting "stuff" in it.
Dave LaCourse
Mr. G
of Gink while in the process of answering some specific questions for him.
No, we
are not losing it but I sure wish I knew why the sentences are arriving
segmented.
Any ideas Fred?
Incidentally, the story is a true one, regardless. Before your time, fly
fishermen were
killing themselves with carbon tetrachloride. It and other insidious
chemicals have
claimed many lives unnecessarily. Taking that into consideration, if you knew
the
history of fly dressings, I did lose it in my desire to invent something that
was safe.
I've done just that Fred.
Mr. G.
Fred Rickson wrote:
> George, you make a good product, but comments such as those below lead me
> to think you are losing it.....maybe gone already.
>
> Fred Rickson
snipped answers:
Mr. G
Mr. G
Mr. G
EXACTLY RIGHT. It was not uncommon 25 years ago to hear, "Hey, did you hear
about
old Joe? Found him dead of a heart attack while fly fishing? Sure wish I had
that secret
formula he had for floating those dry flies." etc. Then, do you want to know
what the next
dumb line used to be? "Boy, when I die that's the way I want to go. Doing
what I loved
most. Fly fishing!" - or - "Yep, they found the guy face down in his boat
dead as a door
nail. Died so quick he fell on his fly rod and busted it in two. What a
waste." etc.
True comments I was hearing from the past that drove me to do what I do today.
Incidently, Carbon Tetrachloride is absorbed though the skin and is 'retained'
(accumalative)
in the body.
Mr. G.
Mr. G
DavPLaC wrote:
> Fred Ricson:
>
> <<George, you make a good product, but comments such as those below lead me
> to think you are losing it.....maybe gone already.>>
>
> *What* did George say that made you think he was "losing it"?
>
> He makes a good product and explained a whole helluva lot about it.
> I seen nothing wrong with that.
>
> One thing George didn't mention and it is important: Gink does not
> change the color of a fly. You start out with a yellow body, you end
> up with a yellow body. It is probably because there is no silicone or
> other dirt-attracting "stuff" in it.
>
> Dave LaCourse
__________ Dear Dave & Fred:
Yes, I just caught your answer here and you make a good point David.
Gehrke's Gink does not change the color of any fly, BUT (!) along with
that there is something more advantageous about using GINK at the
fly tying vise.
A 'yellow' is one color dry and another shade wet. Use GINK to see
how dark a Cahill dry would become when it got wet as opposed to
how you tie it dry at the vise. One would then tend to start out with
a lighter shade of yellow in order to end up with the correct shade
wet with water. Simply use GINK to find that final shade for the
fly you're tying.
It is a great idea to remember.
Again, thanks for your interests. Hope this adds to your fishing
tricks of the trade.
Mr. G.
Doctor Debunker, at your service
>_______ Dear Homey:
>
>EXACTLY RIGHT. It was not uncommon 25 years ago to hear, "Hey, did you hear
>about old Joe? Found him dead of a heart attack while fly fishing? Sure
>wish I had that secret formula he had for floating those dry flies." etc.
>Then, do you want to know what the next dumb line used to be? "Boy, when I
>die that's the way I want to go. Doing what I loved most. Fly fishing!" -
>or - "Yep, they found the guy face down in his boat
>dead as a door nail. Died so quick he fell on his fly rod and busted it in
>two. What a waste." etc.
>
>True comments I was hearing from the past that drove me to do what I do
>today.
>
>Incidently, Carbon Tetrachloride is absorbed though the skin and is
>'retained' (accumalative) in the body.
More utter nonsense from the Ginkster...
Georgie, you're on the friggin' internet (however marginally). Why not learn
to use it to debunk your posts before you repeatedly show how how little you
actually know?
CT is NOT accumulative in body tissues, George. In fact, in order to test for
the presense of CT one has to have the tests performed very soon after
exposure because CT is metabolized so quickly.
Further, it's highly unlikely if not impossible for someone to absorb enough
CT through the skin while applying it - or a mixture containing CT - to flies
- to cause *sudden death*. Maybe if you took a bath in it...
Even *significant* exposure (via inhalation or ingestion) causes such
remarkable symptoms (such as intoxication, headaches, dizziness, sleepiness,
and nausea and vomiting) that it's extremely unlikely that a person would (or
even could) continue incidental exposure to the point of death.
Continuous high exposure levels may indeed cause liver, kidney, and/or central
nervous system damage - none of which are likely to occur without notice - and
none of which would be associated with Old Joe transitioning from a healthy
flyfisherman to dead meat in one outing on the river...
Try supporting your various arcane cases via the truth for a change, Georgie.
"Old Joe" probably died of heart failure after catching that huge brown trout
that eluded *you* for all those years ;^)
And btw: GINK ain't a cure for cancer, either. It's a friggin' floatant for
dry flies - one of many that work just fine, you old fart...
Harry Mason
Patterson) wrote:
>Mr. G <gi...@valint.net> wrote:
>
>> Gehrke's Gink does not change the color of any fly, BUT (!) along with
>> that there is something more advantageous about using GINK at the
>> fly tying vise.
>>
>> A 'yellow' is one color dry and another shade wet. Use GINK to see
>> how dark a Cahill dry would become when it got wet as opposed to
>> how you tie it dry at the vise. One would then tend to start out with
>> a lighter shade of yellow in order to end up with the correct shade
>> wet with water. Simply use GINK to find that final shade for the
>> fly you're tying.
>>
>> It is a great idea to remember.
>
>
>
>And it's sooooo much cheaper than just sprinkling it with expensive old
>tap water.
Hey Tim
That puts floatant into the body dubbing.You kinda have a narrow view
of what and who,my friend. But that's by design no doubt.
Harry
Mr. G.
Simply use GINK to find that final shade for the
> > fly you're tying.
> >
> > It is a great idea to remember.
TIM PATTERSON ANSWERS WITH:
>
> And it's sooooo much cheaper than just sprinkling it with expensive old
> tap water.
Mr. GEORGE GEHRKE Answers: Open forum letter:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> edited by gg: my other signature IS Tim Patterson
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Mr. Patterson:
______ For sake of good order, dry flies are floated with Gehrke's Gink
not Gehrke's Water. The fly at the vise and the dubbing material to be
used is going to be protected from water with Gehrke's Gink. As fly
tiers progress at the vice, comparing tones and colors, (and/or mixing
dubbing materials time and again for different flies) a material would
have to be resoaked AFTER it dries out time and again - always changing
shades of color as it progresses through different stages of wetness, or
dryness - whereas, with Gehrke's Gink, the samples stay at the same wet
shades (as though they were actually wet) the entire time we all sit at
a fly tying vise which could be for many hours.
Another thing we all know is it isn't a question of 'cheap,' Tim. Fly
tiers don't want WET things laying around for water can be a great
nusiance around the fly tying table/area. Gehrke's Gink, on the other
hand is very convenient and very usefuland neat in a variety of ways.
More on that for another day.
It is a matter of record that you don't fly fish Tim. You again, have
come here with a remark that was intended to belittle. That you are
not a serious student in this world of fly fishermen is a known fact
but perhaps we all can try and change your mind here? I realize you're
in astronomy and that you have usually nothing better to do but sit
around and stare off into space but there's a reason for everything
in fly fishing and although some may believe we are hawking a product,
is not the case. It just so happens Gehrke's Gink is able to do more
than one thing for fly fishermen and fly tiers.
That aside, my question now is. Why are you here NOW Tim? I would
like to know that. I imagine a lot of us would like to know that?
Perhaps you're here stalking me? Are you stalking me Tim?
If there is anything else I or we in this group can teach you,
please feel free to ask but I suspect you're out of your element,
here which doesn't make you a bad guy if you come to us other than
as a Trojan Horse. You're not in the trojan business here, are
you Tim?
By the way Tim Patterson, are you a fly tier? So, if you don't
fly fish and aren't a fly tier - why question a pro if you haven't
the knowledge/ability/experience to challenge properly, here?
How are you able to explain where we can get "expensive old
tap water?" I thought it would have been "cheap old tap water?"
Edit your material before you post it will save you some face.
Sincerely,
Mr. George Gehrke
Wayne Harrison
Patterson) wrote:
>Mr. G <gi...@valint.net> wrote:
>
>> Gehrke's Gink does not change the color of any fly, BUT (!) along with
>> that there is something more advantageous about using GINK at the
>> fly tying vise.
>>
>> A 'yellow' is one color dry and another shade wet. Use GINK to see
>> how dark a Cahill dry would become when it got wet as opposed to
>> how you tie it dry at the vise. One would then tend to start out with
>> a lighter shade of yellow in order to end up with the correct shade
>> wet with water. Simply use GINK to find that final shade for the
>> fly you're tying.
>>
>> It is a great idea to remember.
>
>
>
>And it's sooooo much cheaper than just sprinkling it with expensive old
>tap water.
hey, you pig headed twit: say what you will (and god knows
you will) about george's internet persona, you can bet your ass that
his product is the best damn thing ever invented for it's intended
purpose.
a. wayne harrison
>
>
>
>--
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> my other signature is hilarious
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
DavPLaC
Wayne Harrison:
<<<<hey, you pig headed twit: say what you will (and god knows
you will) about george's internet persona, you can bet your ass that
his product is the best damn thing ever invented for it's intended
purpose.
a. wayne harrison>>>>
Amen to that, my friend. George's Gink does it
better than anything else, and this dildo Patterson
can not *stand* it. ROFL.
Dave LaCourse
Ernie Harrison
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DavPLaC <dav...@aol.com> wrote in article
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>George's Gink does it better than anything else,
> Dave LaCourse
>
DavPLaC
Earnie Harrison::
I didn't do a fuckin' thing, Ernie, except tell the truth. George doesn't
owe me squat. He makes a superior product and what is wrong with
that? At least I do not use this ng to advertise my own commercial
efforts. You must be fuckin' hard-up for exposure, eh? d;0)
Dave LaCourse
allan podell
Just curious about an item I recently read about as being an excellent
floatant. Have any of you tried a skin product, or maybe it's for hair,
called 'Albolene'(sp?) Creme? I f I remeber corectly it was in a book
written by Art Lee. I went to the drug store and saw that it was about
$5 for an 8 ounce jar.
Thanks.
Allan
Larry Medina
the advent of synthetic materials and better tying media (lighter
hooks, better- less absorbent thread, CDC, etc) not to mention improved
tying skills....
I'm sort of curious under what conditions alot of you are fishing that
you find such a need for flotants that you're clogging up the newsgroup
with all these posts about GINK and Carbon Tet ????
George makes/packages a decent product, it's the only one I carry
streamside.....I still have an original litle red tub from some 20+
years ago....about half full and in oddball conditions, I do still find
an occasional use for it .... but I think I could go a long time without
ever needing to talk about it daily for weeks on end.....
Larry #:)#
Larry Medina
bench and when tying Wulff style flies (with heavy fur or fur/wool blend
bodies) I used to "paint" a stripe of paste on the shank just prior to
winding on the body.
The paste would get fully absorbed into the body, naturally making it
darker, but as the paste dried out, the body lightened to a shade
somewhere between its dry and saturated state.
The fly didn't seem to change color when fishing it, unless it got
ragged by fish's teeth and then started "wicking up" water. The stuff
was a white paste, likely some kind of silicone based substance, and was
odorless. I came in a bottle like Cutter's Insect repellent, had an
orange and brown label. I ran out of it some 10 years ago and like
Overton's Wonder Wax, was never able to find it again.
Since then, the only flotant I use at the bench is Loon Hydrostop....and
only on real large or bushy flies with wool or wool/fur mix bodied
flies.....I still dunk these in Loon and hang em to dry for a day or so
after. Also, I NEVER apply head cement to the flies I dunk in
Loon....it melts the stuff!!
Larry #:)#
Mr. G
AWood70928 wrote:
> George,
>
> After following this thread for quite some time, I was amazed that I actually
> got something of worth out of it. Tying for over 20 years, I never once
> thought to use Gink to turn the shades of my materials to that which I was
> trying to imitate while at the bench. Then again, I'm at the point where I
> think a good presentation with something close is good enough. I don't have to
> catch every trout in the stream, and sometimes just being out there getting
> good drifts is enough to make the day. Thanks for the tip.
>
> And remember George, no one is completely worthless in this life. Tim at
> least serves as a an example of how not to be.
>
> Al Woodard
; ) Looney?
__________ Thanks Al. You made me smile but at the same time it puzzles
me why we don't have more Englishmen that fly fish in America? I've always
heard they can't drink, they can't make love, but they sure are goof fly fishermen!
Hell. Look how many of us they have rising to their trolls?
; )
GINK at the fly tying bench is indeed a very good idea.
I could also mention that it was I that invented Wonder Wax and gave it to
Mike Overton way back, shortly after 1970. This is why "FLY-MAKER'S WAX
is its replacement. Mike Overton died. It is a sad tale that I will not be
telling.
He was a beautiful guy. I loved him dearly.
George Gehrke
Mr. G
allan podell wrote:
> Dave,
> I don't recall using 'Gink' specifically but I have used a couple of
> other floatants. All of them liquified at one time or another during
> the summer but I didn't pay attention to the specific temperature.
> Actually, I found it easier to use because it came out of the container
> with less of a struggle. I hope this isn't a dumb question. Is floatant
> in its liquified state less effective?
> Allan
________ Generally yes. It must become separate from the samecondition as
water because WATER is the universal solvent.
Gehrke's Gink resets to a clear gel and separates the entire fly from
the attacks of water. The fly floats better than any thing else you can
use and lastly, the color of the fly is fixed. One cast is all that is
needed
to refloat and a little goes a long ways.
This is why that tub of GINK you have has lasted you so long.
20 + years?
Not bad Dave.
; )
George Gehrke
Mr. G
DavPLaC wrote:
> Walt Winter:
> Rumor is that it is the main ingredient in Gink....
>
> who knows....George?>>
>
> It "melts" at body temperature. I've tried it once. Seemed to work
> ok. Main incredients: mineral oil, petrolatum, paraffin, ceresin,
> and beta carotene. Sounds like "stuff" to me! d;0)
>
> Dave LaCourse
________ But it still isn't GINK because Gehrke's Gink is entirelydifferent
and what I do is what makes it so special. Abolene will
damage your fly line and also takes the oil out of your skin and/or
the PZ out of your leader, the fly material you may be using, and
dry out your $60 fly lines.
Stay with Gink. It will never let you down as Abolene slowly
absorbs water and once your fly starts to get wet because WATER WILL
BY PASS ABOLENE, you will not be able to float it like it should
float ever again. Sometimes one is down to only ONE fly that will
work and losing that one believing that Abolene is just as good
when it isn't and because it is a false, cheap trick - could ruin an
entire trip where ONE FLY could make it, if it is the right fly
with the right dry fly dressing.
I'll never leave you down.
George Gehrke
Mr. G
Walt Winter wrote:
> In article <01bdf568$244138e0$6c97...@mevdmwsm.stny.lrun.com>,
> apo...@stny.lrun.com says...
> >
> >Hi,
> >Just curious about an item I recently read about as being an excellent
> >floatant. Have any of you tried a skin product, or maybe it's for hair,
> >called 'Albolene'(sp?) Creme? I f I remeber corectly it was in a book
> >written by Art Lee. I went to the drug store and saw that it was about
> >$5 for an 8 ounce jar.
> >Thanks.
> >Allan
>
> Rumor is that it is the main ingredient in Gink....
>
> who knows....George?
>
> --Walt
_________ Absolutely not. Abolene will work but
it also will do your equipment damage. See post
article previoius to this Walt.
Gink will never let you down Walt.
rm...@psu.edu
Mark Faulkner
dav...@aol.com (DavPLaC) wrote:
>
> Earnie Harrison::
>
> <<Interesting what people do for a free sample. :-)
> --
>
> DavPLaC <dav...@aol.com> wrote in article
>
> >George's Gink does it better than anything else,
> > Dave LaCourse>>
>
> I didn't do a fuckin' thing, Ernie, except tell the truth. George doesn't
> owe me squat. He makes a superior product and what is wrong with
> that? At least I do not use this ng to advertise my own commercial
> efforts. You must be fuckin' hard-up for exposure, eh? d;0)
> Dave LaCourse
>
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Walt Winter
DavPLaC
Walt Winter:
<<>Hi,
>Just curious about an item I recently read about as being an excellent
>floatant. Have any of you tried a skin product, or maybe it's for hair,
>called 'Albolene'(sp?) Creme? I f I remeber corectly it was in a book
>written by Art Lee. I went to the drug store and saw that it was about
>$5 for an 8 ounce jar.
>Thanks.
>Allan
Rumor is that it is the main ingredient in Gink....
who knows....George?>>
It "melts" at body temperature. I've tried it once. Seemed to work
AWood70928
allan podell
Mr. G
allan podell wrote:
> Hi,
> Just curious about an item I recently read about as being an excellent
> floatant. Have any of you tried a skin product, or maybe it's for hair,
> called 'Albolene'(sp?) Creme? I f I remeber corectly it was in a book
> written by Art Lee. I went to the drug store and saw that it was about
> $5 for an 8 ounce jar.
> Thanks.
> Allan
_____ If you're going to force me to be blunt, Art Lee doesn't knowwhat he
is talking about. He is not a research chemist like I was and
he knows NOTHING, absolutely nothing about dry fly dressings,
how to make them, let alone INVENT one. Albolene in the
long run will damage your equipment. Using the world's best dry fly
dressing isn't a question about saving money but having the best
product possible after you get to the stream or river in this world
you wish to be on any particular day. Nothing floats a fly better
than Gehrke's Gink Allan. Albolene will screw you up sooner or
later.
Albolene isn't some kind of super military secret or inside tip.
Albolene is used to clean actor's faces of make-up. It cuts into
oils and lifts them out of the skin. Albolene will suck your flies,
leaders and fly line dry in the long run. Once you use albolene
on a dry fly, you might as well throw it away because your
hackles and dubbing and tails and wings and threads will slowly
break down. But especially your stiff hackles will become soft
and mushy.
Gehrke's Gink is Gehrke's Gink
Albolene is a cleaner.
You choose.
I have never told you anything that wasn't the best information
possible Allan. Gehrke's Gink is Guaranteed. Albolene has none.
Sincerely,
George Gehrke
DavPLaC
Allan Podell:
<<..........I hope this isn't a dumb question. Is floatant
in its liquified state less effective? >>
I don't think so. All the ingrediants are still there.
I usually get it all over the place when it is
like that. I use a little and spill a lot.
Dave LaCourse
Ernie Harrison
My fishing partner and I had a jar of Albolene and we used it for a number
of years. It worked fine.
Ernie Harrison
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Ernie Harrison
I didn't mean to hit a nerve, but you were getting a little repetitive.
:-)
--
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DavPLaC
Ernie Harrison:
<<Sorry Dave,
I didn't mean to hit a nerve, but you were getting a little repetitive.
That's ok, Ernie. Shoot, I was lookin' for a fight too.
Now I'll hafta go to my local country and western bar and
dance to 3/4 time long enough to get real angry.
Then I'll get the snot kicked out of me by some
great big non-fly-fisherman(woman).
You don't fight fair, Ernie. d;0)
Dave LaCourse
Churchill
I have never told you anything that wasn't the best information
possible Allan. Gehrke's Gink is Guaranteed. Albolene has none.
Sincerely,
George Gehrke
What is the big deal. A bottle of Gink costs a few bucks and you will
have for a couple of seasons at least. I am bummed when I casn't find the
stuff at my local and have to settle. Though I have had a bottle of
Dave's Fly Floatant for a couple of years (bought in an emergency once)
and it works pretty good. I do like the Gink though. Don't do much trout
fishing anymore. Spend most of my time throwing big stuff at big boys in
big water. But I do still like to go and watch those browns turn their
noses up at my offerings. Sometimes I even catch one or two.
--
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Moe Skeeter
>possible Allan. Gehrke's Gink is Guaranteed. Albolene has none.
You go George !
Let these guys slather Bag Balm on their Grizzly Kings if they want...
Not me.
--
TimW, Halfordian Golfer
"Guilt replaced the creel..."
FiddleAway
> >
> >> Gehrke's Gink does not change the color of any fly, BUT (!) along with
> >> fly tying vise.
I beg to differ. Gink, along with all of the other floatants I've tried,
turns the red and green floss waistcoats almost black. Not so for just
wetting with water. I have found that the color can be restored by
scraping with my fingernail or anything with a fine edge.
Mr. G
Churchill wrote:
> I have never told you anything that wasn't the best information
> possible Allan. Gehrke's Gink is Guaranteed. Albolene has none.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Gehrke
>
> What is the big deal. A bottle of Gink costs a few bucks and you will
> have for a couple of seasons at least. I am bummed when I casn't find the
> stuff at my local and have to settle. Though I have had a bottle of
> Dave's Fly Floatant for a couple of years (bought in an emergency once)
> and it works pretty good. I do like the Gink though. Don't do much trout
> fishing anymore. Spend most of my time throwing big stuff at big boys in
> big water. But I do still like to go and watch those browns turn their
> noses up at my offerings. Sometimes I even catch one or two.
>
> --
> Flyfish NC
> Gordon Churchill
> flyf...@worldwideangler.com
> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/3853
_________ Gordon Churchill, you rascal! Tell you what. IF you ever
need to order another bottle of Gehrke's Gink, just go to our new
web site that we are still working on and place an order. I'll take
care of you. If you send me that bottle of Dave's, I'll replace it
free with a bottle of GINK, because I don't care what Tim says
about you . . . I like you.
; )
(just kiddin Gordie)
see:
or E-mail me @
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By the way Gordon, what kind of big fish in what water? Yosemite huh?
What are you fishing in the fall now. I'm chasing Ironheads right now.
Big G.
Bob Jarvis
>I beg to differ. Gink, along with all of the other floatants I've tried,
>turns the red and green floss waistcoats almost black. Not so for just
>wetting with water. I have found that the color can be restored by
>scraping with my fingernail or anything with a fine edge.
The solution to this is to use polypropylene yarn instead of floss
for the body on things like Royal Wulffs, Tennessee Wulffs, etc.
Two advantages accrue:
1. The floatant doesn't change the color of the body, and
2. Poly yarn floats. :-)
What I do is pull a few (maybe 6-9?) threads out of a piece of yarn,
tie these in, wrap them carefully to make sure I get the hook
shank covered, tie 'em off, and trim. Works great. Not my idea,
of course - I think Dick Talluer recommends this. Works for me.
--
Bob Jarvis
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Mr. G.
>
> > >Mr. G <gi...@valint.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Gehrke's Gink does not change the color of any fly, BUT (!) along with
> > >> that there is something more advantageous about using GINK at the
> > >> fly tying vise.
>
> turns the red and green floss waistcoats almost black. Not so for just
> wetting with water. I have found that the color can be restored by
> scraping with my fingernail or anything with a fine edge.
____ Heck FiddleAway, I once shot a 747 out of the air with my bow and
arrow.
Boy, were those passengers angry having to walk though that muddy wheat
field.
Talk about dirty finger nails!? Every try and scrap all the mud off
between
the heel and sole? Clay is the pits.
Mr. G
; )
Mr. G.
> >turns the red and green floss waistcoats almost black. Not so for just wetting with water.
> The solution to this is to use polypropylene yarn instead of floss
> for the body on things like Royal Wulffs, Tennessee Wulffs, etc.
> Two advantages accrue:
> 1. The floatant doesn't change the color of the body, and
> 2. Poly yarn floats. :-)
> What I do is pull a few (maybe 6-9?) threads out of a piece of yarn,
> tie these in, wrap them carefully to make sure I get the hook
> shank covered, tie 'em off, and trim. Works great. Not my idea,
> of course - I think Dick Talluer recommends this. Works for me.
> --
> Bob Jarvis
> Mail address hacked to foil spammers!
> Remove "ob" from address to reply
_____ I didn't know that Bob. Is it possible to see one sample of a
Royal Wulff you tie using either or both tricks here? I'll trade you
a sample for your trouble.
Send To: Drawer 730 - Asotin, WA 99402
I'm very interested and this also gives me a chance to see what your
fly tying 'signature' is like.
Thanks Bob -
George Gehrke
Bob Jarvis
>_____ I didn't know that Bob. Is it possible to see one sample of a
>Royal Wulff you tie using either or both tricks here? I'll trade you
>a sample for your trouble.
My fly-tying "signature" closely resembles my written
signature - messy and damn near illegible. Still, if you
promise not to laugh I'll ship you a fly. (And there's only
one "trick", which is using poly yarn instead of floss for
the body of the Royal Wulff, or any other Wulff-style
fly).