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Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:51:31 PM11/2/09
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Just north of the Park boundary there is a meadow on public land
near the confluence where Wolverine Creek dumps into Slough Creek.
It is a very nice meadow with a campsite big enough for a 'Clave.
I know an outfitter who will do a drop camp on that campsite. The
outfitter will pack in with horses and mules all the tents, cots,
dining flies, food, beer and kitchen gear and set it all up. The
'Clavers could then hike in from the Park side. Folks could also
ride horses from the Cooke City side with the outfitter if they'd
rather ride than hike.

Just tossing out an idea. But it's not too early to make reservations
for such a trip in August 2010.

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Ken Fortenberry

Frank Reid © 2008

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:06:42 PM11/2/09
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On Nov 2, 7:51 pm, Ken Fortenberry <kennethfortenbe...@gmail.com>
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I'm game. Put me out there for a week and I'll be gamey.
Frank Reid

jeff

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:14:25 AM11/3/09
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approximate cost? hike-in miles? other issue is the desire some may
have for variety or sampling other streams... but, sounds like an
excellent idea and option.

jeff

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:30:54 AM11/3/09
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Frank Reid � 2008 wrote:
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> ...

>> Just tossing out an idea. But it's not too early to make reservations
>> for such a trip in August 2010.
>
> I'm game. Put me out there for a week and I'll be gamey.

Here's the url of Matt's web page. The costs for 2010 aren't
up on the page yet, but you can get a general idea of the
difference between fully guided and drop camp.

I don't believe Matt is licensed for the Thorofare but that's
a trip I've always wanted to take. If there's any interest in
that trip I can ask Matt if he has an outfitter recommendation.

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Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:58:34 AM11/3/09
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
> Here's the url of Matt's web page. ...

Oops ...

http://www.stillwateroutfitters.com/absaroka.htm

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whileone

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Nov 3, 2009, 12:30:20 PM11/3/09
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
> Just north of the Park boundary there is a meadow on public land
> near the confluence where Wolverine Creek dumps into Slough Creek.

Frenchy's meadow?
Better bring pepper spray, hand grenades and sawed off shotguns.
And plenty of bacon, which you plant just inside the
horse corral at the Silver Tip Ranch, two miles south and down
the creek from the camp site.

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 3, 2009, 12:47:49 PM11/3/09
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Yeah, that's the place. The griz are no more an issue there than
at any other spot above second meadow on Slough Creek. It's wise
to take the usual precautions when camping in griz country but
most folks feel they can leave the hand grenades at home.

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Ken Fortenberry

Frank Reid © 2008

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Nov 3, 2009, 12:53:20 PM11/3/09
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> most folks feel they can leave the hand grenades at home.

Why are you such a buzz kill? Trust me, I wouldn't bother the griz
with the grenades. Honest Mr. Ranger, they're not for the griz!
Frank Reid

Frank Reid © 2008

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Nov 3, 2009, 12:56:30 PM11/3/09
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whileone

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Nov 3, 2009, 5:52:50 PM11/3/09
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Bearanoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will creep:

Two years ago my buddy Bill and I camped out for three days at the
extreme south east arm of the lake, where the Yellowstone River dumps
into the lake....ten miles paddling beyond where motors are allowed.

On the final morning, when we got up early to pack up and leave,
we found the following tracks on the beach. They made two complete
360 degree trips around the canoe, and then headed across the forest
floor, straight for the tent. That was a big bear, with paw prints
about a foot wide.

So I think we must have been sniffed and spared--for some reason--in the
middle of the night.

http://montana-riverboats.com/Robopages/index.php?page=thoroughfare/Campsite-bear-tracks.jpg

While we were in there we carried a satellite transmitter (a ranger
asked us) which tracked our daily GIS positioning. They later mapped
that on top of similar tracking graphs, coming from transmitter collars
on several bears. The ranger refused to show us the data.
But that "wilderness" campsite was closed for most of the summer, after
that trip.

rw

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:03:11 PM11/3/09
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How far to Fawn Lake?

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Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:03:51 PM11/3/09
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whileone wrote:
> Bearanoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will creep:
> <interesting story snipped>

At what point in your narrative would you have recommended the use
of hand grenades ? ;-)

Sandy, is that you ?

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Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:13:09 PM11/3/09
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You really don't want to have a western 'Clave at Fawn Lake because
there is no Fawn Lake.

I've tossed out Slough Creek and the Thorofare, do you have anything
to contribute other than smartass nastiness ?

So far as I'm concerned West Yellowstone is toxic. I wouldn't spend
a dime of my money in that shithole. But West Yellowstone aside, if
you only have a week or two to experience the best trout fishing in
North America during late July, early August you could do a whole
lot worse than the Greater Yellowstone area.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:35:27 PM11/3/09
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On Nov 4, 12:13 am, Ken Fortenberry <kennethfortenbe...@gmail.com>
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There is no Fawn Lake? I am sure many are devastated to hear that.
Slough Creek eh? That where you slough your skin like the snake you
are? Or is it indeed a "A stagnant swamp (especially as part of a
bayou)"?

Smartass nastiness, (light on the smart), is your stock in trade,
what's the matter? You jealous?

Anybody who would fish anywhere with you, much less travel to do so,
needs his head examined.

rw

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:42:16 PM11/3/09
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Isn't Fawn Lake in the Greater Yellowstone area? Just asking.

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:47:40 PM11/3/09
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rw wrote:
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> I've tossed out Slough Creek and the Thorofare, do you have anything
>> to contribute other than smartass nastiness ? ...

>
> Isn't Fawn Lake in the Greater Yellowstone area? Just asking.

In other words, no.

What a putz.

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Ken Fortenberry

Mike

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:51:32 PM11/3/09
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On Nov 4, 12:47 am, Ken Fortenberry <kennethfortenbe...@gmail.com>
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Here you go; http://www.fawnlakevirginia.com/public/index.aspx

Wanna buy a bridge as well?

rdean3...@bellsouth.net

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:12:28 PM11/3/09
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:47:40 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
<kennethfo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>rw wrote:
>> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>> I've tossed out Slough Creek and the Thorofare, do you have anything
>>> to contribute other than smartass nastiness ? ...
>>
>> Isn't Fawn Lake in the Greater Yellowstone area? Just asking.
>
>In other words, no.
>

Maybe you could get a map from Paul Krugman...

HTH,
R

Mike

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:18:09 PM11/3/09
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Maybe you'll be "lucky" and it's near Davy LaCoarse? Hope the gates
keep you fuckers in!

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:23:24 PM11/3/09
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rdean3...@bellsouth.net wrote:

> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> rw wrote:
>>> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>>> ... do you have anything

>>>> to contribute other than smartass nastiness ? ...
>>> Isn't Fawn Lake ...

>> In other words, no.
>
> Maybe you could get a map from Paul Krugman...

What's the matter, couldn't you Google up a Paul Krugman fishes
Fawn Lake link ? ;-)

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Ken Fortenberry

whileone

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:40:48 PM11/4/09
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............

Fawn Lake and Blacktail Ponds present a somewhat different story. Both
are home to larger than average brook trout, and both are not good
places to take kids or beginning anglers, since each presents a fairly
serious danger. The former is a hike of 5 strenuous miles into the
Gallatin Mountains, an area literally infested with grizzly bears. The
last time I went to the lake my partner and I saw three grizzlies (and
several wolves, elk, and bison), for example, the last of which rose out
of the sage no more than 50 yards away. This is not a hike that should
be attempted alone or without bear spray. Blacktail Ponds --really one
pond with two pools connected by narrow point-- has slightly smaller
fish, averaging 12 inches, but they sit right below the northern leg of
the Parks Grand Loop Road. On the other hand, the pond is bordered by a
peat swamp, into which its possible to fall up to ones crotch and get
stuck without a buddy to pull one out. For this reason, its best to fish
this pond from a belly boat. Also note that its often closed due to
nesting rare birds, a closure not announced in the Parks regulations
booklet. Inquire locally to learn if this closure is in effect when you
visit.

whileone

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:44:52 PM11/4/09
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...was after that trip we decided to take grenades the next time.
And extra toilet paper.

On the way back we stopped and caught lake trout at every
rocky point (where the edge drops off quickly, rather than slowly).
You are required to kill lake trout. It was 90 degrees and ice long
gone. So we cut them up for bait and tossed what was left up on the
bank. The sea gulls never took more than 30 seconds to find the dead
fish, even thought they tend to circle about from so high up they
look like dots.

rw

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:11:35 PM11/4/09
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You didn't get the memo.

Fawn Lake has been a weed-choked mud hole since the days of Jim Bridger.
In fact, some say that Fawn Lake was just one of Jim's famous tall tales.

whileone

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:12:54 PM11/4/09
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rw wrote:
> Fawn Lake has been a weed-choked mud hole since the days of Jim Bridger.
> In fact, some say that Fawn Lake was just one of Jim's famous tall tales.
>

I'll ask him.

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:12:37 PM11/4/09
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Exactly. There is no Fawn Lake, just an expanse of weeds.

As for Blacktail Ponds, when it's closed the Park Service will
always have a sign at the pullout saying that it's closed.

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Ken Fortenberry

rw

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:39:12 PM11/4/09
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No, really. I heard it from an old timer who goes by the name of
Yellowstone Kenny. I think he worked as the camp bitch for some outfit
one summer, and he used to hang out in a bar in Gardiner, so you gotta
believe it. Yellowstone K. said he went on an epic search for Fawn Lake
and couldn't find it, so that's that.

We do get conflicting reports about Fawn Lake from time to time.

Ken Fortenberry

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:46:46 PM11/4/09
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rw wrote:
> whileone wrote:
>> rw wrote:
>>> Fawn Lake has been a weed-choked mud hole since the days of Jim
>>> Bridger. In fact, some say that Fawn Lake was just one of Jim's
>>> famous tall tales.
>>
>> I'll ask him.
>
> No, really. I heard it from an old timer who goes by the name of
> Yellowstone Kenny. I think he worked as the camp bitch for some outfit
> one summer, and he used to hang out in a bar in Gardiner, so you gotta
> believe it. Yellowstone K. said he went on an epic search for Fawn Lake
> and couldn't find it, so that's that.

Heh, the story gets better and better over time. When we get
a cyclops and sirens and battles and arrows in the heel, *then*
we'll have an epic. Until then it's just a pedestrian tale
that's either a tragedy or a comedy, depending on your point
of view.

> We do get conflicting reports about Fawn Lake from time to time.

Yeah, that's the comedy part. LOL !

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Ken Fortenberry

Giles

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Nov 4, 2009, 9:11:54 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 1:46 pm, Ken Fortenberry <kennethfortenbe...@gmail.com>
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Most of the folks who have been here a while know exactly where the
comedy is.

g.

rw

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Nov 4, 2009, 9:39:17 PM11/4/09
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
> rw wrote:
>>
>> No, really. I heard it from an old timer who goes by the name of
>> Yellowstone Kenny. I think he worked as the camp bitch for some outfit
>> one summer, and he used to hang out in a bar in Gardiner, so you gotta
>> believe it. Yellowstone K. said he went on an epic search for Fawn
>> Lake and couldn't find it, so that's that.
>
>
> Heh, the story gets better and better over time. When we get
> a cyclops and sirens and battles and arrows in the heel, *then*
> we'll have an epic. Until then it's just a pedestrian tale
> that's either a tragedy or a comedy, depending on your point
> of view.

It's both, depending on your point of view, of course. I take it as a
comedy.

>> We do get conflicting reports about Fawn Lake from time to time.

> Yeah, that's the comedy part. LOL !

Correct. ROTFL.

Mike

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:07:20 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 5, 3:11 am, Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Most of the folks who have been here a while know exactly where the
> comedy is.
>
> g.

True enough, but there is often considerable confusion about the
respective roles involved, whether one is the butt of a joke, just a
plain asshole, or stupid, obviously has some bearing on the matter. As
of course does the individual perception of "humour" as such. Not
everybody thinks a broken leg, lamentable ignorance, or rank
stupidity, is funny.

Giles

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Nov 5, 2009, 12:36:31 AM11/5/09
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On Nov 4, 9:07 pm, Mike <mabcon...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 3:11 am, Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Most of the folks who have been here a while know exactly where the
> > comedy is.
>
> > g.
>
> True enough, but there is often considerable confusion about the
> respective roles involved, whether one is the butt of a joke, just a
> plain asshole, or stupid, obviously has some bearing on the matter.

Precisely why it's funny.

> As
> of course does the individual perception of "humour" as such. Not
> everybody thinks a broken leg, lamentable ignorance, or rank
> stupidity, is funny.

On the contrary, everybody DOES think it's funny......there's just a
bit of a difference of opinion as to WHEN (which is to say to whom it
is happening and when and under what circumstances) it's funny.

giles
who would long ago have gotten extremely bored with explaining the
simplest of concepts to the same thick-headed people over and over and
over and over and over and over........if it wasn't so goddamned
funny. :)

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