Life Expectancy of spiderwire?
James Peal
Is there a suggested life expectancy for Spiderwire? I have had Spiderwire on
several reels for about 1.5 years and am starting to experience some breakage
when making hook sets on bigger fish, pulling hooks free from limbs, etc.
I have not seen any literature reguarding this subject. Any info. would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Jim Peal
John McDougall
I'm using silver thread and have been AMAZED. This is my third year and it
still has no memory or breakage problems. I too catch the odd tree 10' up.
I am very picky about my line and when I use to use trilean, I would be
changing my line sometimes as often as 2 times a season. I always make sure
I have no nicks in my line.
Ted Lissauer
James Peal wrote:
>
> Is there a suggested life expectancy for Spiderwire? I have had Spiderwire on
> several reels for about 1.5 years and am starting to experience some breakage
> when making hook sets on bigger fish, pulling hooks free from limbs, etc.
>
> I have not seen any literature reguarding this subject. Any info. would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Jim Peal
There is a life expectancy to everything. Spiderwire's is just
longer than most lines. I think we all make a mistake when we assume
that Spiderwire is indestructable. It isn't, it's just real strong and
hardy.
When we use mono or braided nylon, we make sure to trim the
hardworking end off the line from time to time. But some of us forget
to do this with Spiderwire. Down there where the swivel is, you get
abrasion and nicks, and rock rubs, and other nasty things which degrade
the strength of this line. Abrasion is especially bad if you tie the
loose slip-knot which Spiderwire suggests.
But in any case, the end of the line has to be renewed from
time-to-time. Not as often as the other lines, but sometimes.
--
Ted Lissauer
2204 Wildflower Trail
Fisherville, KY 40023
Phone (502) 267-8131
Al Millan
I knew it was time to replace my Swire when I noticed it was really
faded. The line was supposed to be dark slate gray but it faded down
to an almost silver color. By then, however, I had the line on my reel
for a little more that a year. The stuff is very good for all kinds of
fishing except when you do fishing involving more that a hundred long
distance casts on a fast moving river (i.e. Striper fishing with a
heavy top water lure in whitewater below a dam). The stuff tangles up
in balls almost impossible to unravel.
Arlie & Betsey Proctor
It depends on how you use your spiderwire. I use it primarily for
worming and find that the sinker type dictates the wear rate for the
line.
If you're using old-fashioned lead sinkers, the line and knot last an
incredible time. On the other hand, if you're using the newer steel
bullet weights, I'd recommend retying every hour or so -- which begins
to cut into your spool in a hurry. For some reason, the brass and
(especially) steel weights I've used with SW tend to fray it quickly if
I'm fishing small worms and "shaking" the bait.
Anybody else out there had similar problems? Does the newer "Fusion"
line eliminate this problem?
Arlie Proctor
kevin
.
> Anybody else out there had similar problems? Does the newer "Fusion"
> line eliminate this problem?
>
I personally did not like the new fusion. I found that after pulling a
spoon out of a tree (and taking the branch with it) the coating on the
fusion turned dusty and the line started to wear through in some places.
I am just too used to abusing my line because I use SW almost
exclusivly.
I use fire line also, but I use it for making fly leader, coppies of
lindy rigs (tm) and Little Joes (tm). It is far more rigid than SW and
that keeps the rig from tangling with the line.
Later
Ted Kaczmarek
Spiderwire??
I do not like the way most of the hitech lines feel, although I do use the
Cortland stuff on one baicaster I use, the reason being I generally use
monster size lures on that pole. Everyone I know who used the spiderwire
went back to monifilament. It makes excellent backing though. Good fishing
and always try to give someting back to all the places you fish. Such as
picking up a bottle or can or some other garbage.
kevin <ke...@mspusa.com> wrote in article <323495...@mspusa.com>...
John Eckenrode
On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:22:31 GMT, "Ted Kaczmarek" <ted...@nac.net>
wrote:
>Spiderwire??
>I do not like the way most of the hitech lines feel, although I do use the
>Cortland stuff on one baicaster I use, the reason being I generally use
>monster size lures on that pole. Everyone I know who used the spiderwire
>went back to monifilament. It makes excellent backing though. Good fishing
>and always try to give someting back to all the places you fish. Such as
>picking up a bottle or can or some other garbage.
>
Don't like the feel? Interesting. I find the feel FANTASTIC. I can
feel everything on the other end, much more so than with mono. It is
limp, without memory (which gives me no end of problems with mono,
even though I buy name brand monos that claim to be low-memory and
limp) I've only used Gorilla Braid, and Spiderline Fusion. I like
the Gorilla Braid, although it tends to dig into itself, especially
after a tough fight or pulling up a big stick. I have to cast out and
pull some line off before I can get another decent cast. HOWEVER,
thanks to the strength(20 lb), I am fishing in lumber I'd never fish
in otherwise, so it pays for me.
I don't think it's necessarily very good to use in clear water tho.
I am going to send for some Super Silver Thread, which I've heard good
things about. I hope it doesn't disappoint. . .
BTW, I hate Spiderwire Fusion. I have the 24lb test, and it is thick
and not limp, so casting isn't so good.
-Doc
steve
I have had some limited luck with Berkely Firebraid #20 on my baitcasting
reel, however, I too am in the
process of returning to mono. My reason is that I am having casting
problems. The fusion line seems to want to stick together on my spool. Oh
Well, a $20 fishing lession: money well spent for myself. But, I have
three friends who swear by the spiderwire! They've caught more fish and
bigger fish than anyone else I have known....... and the debate
contiunes.....
Ted Kaczmarek <ted...@nac.net> wrote in article
<01bb9fc2$bac58800$253663cf@ted>...
> kevin <ke...@mspusa.com> wrote in article <323495...@mspusa.com>...
hrob...@airmail.net
ja...@pop.pitt.edu (John Eckenrode) wrote:
> -Doc
I have had some 30 lb. Spiderwire on my worming rod for over a year
now, and other than it being a little faded, it seems to be just fine.
I want to second the motion on the feel, or the way I look at it, the
sensitivity. The "no-stretch" lets you feel every tick, sometimes I
have felt the fish's mouth close on the worm as they inhaled it.
(Things were pretty calm those days!!) I have had a couple of
mysterious breaks, or more like the knot coming untied, but I have
also had a 7 pounder pulling the line back and forth over a log on
Lake Fork, and ended up practically winching it out of there brute
force. I am the opposite of most people I read about, I just CAN"T go
back to mono!!
tan...@nextek.net
I won't go back to mono either. I use Spiderwire and Fireline (which
I like a little better). For those of you using Fireline, I found
that if the line starts to look fuzzy or gray spray it liberally with
WD40. This improves its' castability and lets it lubricate the guides
for a smoother. I usually spray mine at the start of each fishing
trip. Why would anyone want to go back ? When all there was was mono
all everybody did was bitch about all its' faults. These new line
remove those faults and take a little adaption in style and technique.
The rewards for some flexibility are there. Who wants to go back to
oil lamps since electricity ? I'll bet there are a few out there.
Harry
Harry Krause
I've used Fireline for about a year, and I'm going back to Trilene XL. I
was using the 14-pound Fireline for light tackle fishing, and found:
1. that the occasional snag or snarl was virtually impossible to undo,
2. that the line, while good in "pull" strength, was too easily cut by
oyster shells and suchlike,
3. that while certain knots worked well (palomar, for example), the line
is so small in diameter, it isn't easy to work with,
4. that it is outrageously expensive.
To each his/her own.
--
Harry Krause
Harry Krause & Associates, Inc.
Post Office Box 7575 Jacksonville, Florida 32238
hkr...@gate.net
sbi...@rogerswave.ca
tan...@nextek.net wrote:
>I won't go back to mono either. I use Spiderwire and Fireline (which
>I like a little better). For those of you using Fireline, I found
>that if the line starts to look fuzzy or gray spray it liberally with
>WD40. This improves its' castability and lets it lubricate the guides
>for a smoother. I usually spray mine at the start of each fishing
>trip. Why would anyone want to go back ? When all there was was mono
>all everybody did was bitch about all its' faults. These new line
>remove those faults and take a little adaption in style and technique.
>The rewards for some flexibility are there. Who wants to go back to
>oil lamps since electricity ? I'll bet there are a few out there.
>Harry
=================================================
All's fine until you snap the line while retrieving a snagged jig on a
baitcaster -- and then see what happens on your next cast.
The Fusion product worked well until I had to cut it off my spool because there
was no other way of loosening it. When I thought it was free, I made my next
cast and ducked after the horrendous SNAP that I heard when the line stayed and
the lure didn't.
'Nuf Said. -- The jury is still out.
Arlie & Betsey Proctor
troublesome if you're fishing a worm with a glass bead in front of the
weight. I have watched several beads literally explode when the line
digs in and stops the cast in mid-air. Not the thing you want to see
when you've just hooked a good fish and want to get back to the same spot
in a hurry!
Arlie
Fritz W Feuerbacher
ca> Distribution:
sbi...@rogerswave.ca wrote:
: tan...@nextek.net wrote:
: >I won't go back to mono either. I use Spiderwire and Fireline (which
: >I like a little better). For those of you using Fireline, I found
: >The rewards for some flexibility are there. Who wants to go back to
: >oil lamps since electricity ? I'll bet there are a few out there.
: The Fusion product worked well until I had to cut it off my spool because
: there was no other way of loosening it. When I thought it was free, I made
: my next cast and ducked after the horrendous SNAP that I heard when the
: line stayed and the lure didn't.
Same exact thing happened to my friend when he was using Fusion. He liked
the line but it tended to get tiny knots in it after awhile of casting.
He got tired of that. Then when the lure came off he had enough.
I tried braided line. It worked okay to begin with then it got tangled
very easy. It seemed to work great for trolling but not for casting.
Brian Lambie
Fritz W Feuerbacher wrote:
> It seemed to work great for trolling but not for casting.
I agree. Cast with mono, troll with spiderwire, etc. (but use a mono
leader in case you snag!).
Brian Lambie
Dick Jecha
>
> sbi...@rogerswave.ca wrote:
> : tan...@nextek.net wrote:
>
> : >I won't go back to mono either. I use Spiderwire and Fireline (which
> : >I like a little better). For those of you using Fireline, I found
> : >The rewards for some flexibility are there. Who wants to go back to
> : >oil lamps since electricity ? I'll bet there are a few out there.
>
> : The Fusion product worked well until I had to cut it off my spool
because
> : there was no other way of loosening it. When I thought it was free, I
made
> : my next cast and ducked after the horrendous SNAP that I heard when the
> : line stayed and the lure didn't.
>
>
I've been using Fireline this summer and I have mixed feelings about it. I
have 12lb on a spinning reel that fishes great but I have 20lb on a
baitcaster that has been very frustrating. I have had 4 snap offs when
casting the 20lb stuff. I was only able to retrive 2 of the fly away
lures. I'm not too sure if I will respool with the same stuff next season.
BTW my wife swears by Spiderline.
Dick Jecha
Eden Prairie, MN