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Fool4Bass

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Apr 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/7/00
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Is the commitee the next step for you Rod? Seeing as how the abolishment
wasn't going to make it. Go fish.


"The RodMaker" <thero...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The members of the R.O.F.B. have been give a choice!
> To abolish the Guidelines of the R.O.F.B. whether you like them or not. Or
> to appoint a committee to oversee the
> Guidelines & the Faq ,which is as it should be. The choice
> is yours, let the membership know through this thread.
>
> --
> The RodMaker(aka)
> The Shadow......hehehe
>
>
>
>

Moe Conway

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>The members of the R.O.F.B. have been give a choice!
>To abolish the Guidelines of the R.O.F.B. whether you like them or not. Or
>to appoint a committee to oversee the
>Guidelines & the Faq ,which is as it should be. The choice
>is yours, let the membership know through this thread.
>
>--
> The RodMaker(aka)
> The Shadow......hehehe

Committee

Moe


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Good Fishing - Moe
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Tourney

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Hell, put me down for one of the committee people. I won't let anyone get
hammered, as long as they are dealing with bass fishing!

I officially throw my hat into the ring (THROW!) Anybody second my
nomination (Oh Please)

Look Mom, I'm politician. . . Where's the babies (Kiss, Kiss), Where's
Monica - Anybody have a Cigar? ;-)

+++<<< Tourney >>>+++
Hooking'em & Grinning
(Repost because Rodmaker (a.k.a. the Shadow) keeps changing the posting
location.)

ABE WATSON

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I vote Committee !!!!!!

"GONE FISHIN"
{ ABE }
from PA.


Steve Huber

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The RodMaker wrote in message ...

> The members of the R.O.F.B. have been give a choice!
>To abolish the Guidelines of the R.O.F.B. whether you like them or not. Or
>to appoint a committee to oversee the
>Guidelines & the Faq ,which is as it should be. The choice
>is yours, let the membership know through this thread.
>
>--
> The RodMaker(aka)
> The Shadow......hehehe


I vote Committee
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Jay C. Estes

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Okay, I am ready to get hammered with this but here goes. I have not been
the most vocal member of this group but I have really enjoyed reading the
various threads and have benefited from some of your advice. As for the
guidelines issue, I think that the guidelines are a good idea and a
committee may not be too bad either. However, I have seen people (more than
likely newbies) get hammered for minor infractions of the guidelines. Now I
understand that some level of enforcement is necessary but it is also my
belief that the more people that contribute to a group, the wider range of
knowledge and ideas. I just don't think that we should be playing Gestapo
and scaring away people over these minor infractions. Form a committee if
you think that is the proper path to take. However, as one who works for
the government and sees everything decided by committee, sometimes that can
be very complicated if the committee is not always in agreement. So...we
either have a committee of like-minded individuals who will rule against
everyone that does not see things as they do or a committee of individual
thinkers who will not be able to reach a consensus on anything. I for one
kind of like the old tried and true method of ignoring spammers, gently
correcting minor violators and sticking to the one subject that we can all
agree on - Catching Black Beauties.

Humbly Submitted

Jay


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MikeE Getz

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Put me down as a yes vote for the committee.

Mike Getz
Manassas, VA

Max Huber

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When I first started coming to ROFB more than 3 years ago, as a newbie, I
got blasted by another user, for spamming. At that time I did not know what
spam was or I would have stopped posting my rod building supply catalog
posts sooner.

I was hit by one person who thought he was the "enforcer" of the group and
in a not so polite way he made his point clear. I fired back to him about
his methods/tone of informing me of the rules. He got very upset with my
reply, we bantered back and forth awhile, then he quit the group. His
quitting was not my request.

Along the way I have posted some replies to questions if I had value to add
to the topic, but mostly I sat back and watched the power struggles come and
go. After another of the more obnoxious users left the group and before Moe
took over the FAQ pages, I had taken up the drive to reconstruct the FAQ
pages and host them on my site. But, that was short lived, as the once power
king started to tell me how and what should be done. I stopped my work and
others took it up from there.

My point is, over the last few years, more time and energy has been wasted
arguing over what should/should not be done in the ROFB and who the cops
will be than it is worth.

I vote no for guidelines, committees, cops. I vote yes, for not reading
posts you don't like, using the "block" features of the browsers, for less
bickering, for less power struggles and less trying to impress others with
how much you may know.

My biggest yes vote goes to treating people with respect and for getting
back to the real reason the ROFB was started, to discuss fishing, Bass
fishing and fishing related topics.

Respectfully,
--
Max Huber
Re/Bait On-Line Stores
http://www.concentric.net/~mchuber

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stevef

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So how big is the committee and who is on it?

S & C Clark

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> My biggest yes vote goes to treating people with respect and for getting
> back to the real reason the ROFB was started, to discuss fishing, Bass
> fishing and fishing related topics.
>
> Respectfully,
> --
> Max Huber
> Re/Bait On-Line Stores

Max......I, for one, think you have hit the nail squarely on the head! I
read the group this morning and thought I should have gone and put on a
skirt and started doing some dishes! (sorry gals, quoting an dearly departed
old farmer that was a dad to me) "Do as you would be did by" them's words to
live by! Lots of people forget that they are not the only ones on the face
of the earth. No amount of reminding will ever stop in the part of the brain
long enough to be evaluated because they are too busy yippin' when they
should be listenin'. Generally your mouth, when in action, puts your ears
out of gear. People that don't respect themselves rarely respect others.
Some will never learn this no matter how long they live. Too bad for them
and surly too bad for us! Never miss a good chance to shut up. Don't forget
you are "unique", just like everyone else.
I bass fish, therefore I am.

Respectfully, Steve from Stony

Gilbert

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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To me,
A post for a fishing related topic, product or service
should not be set a fire.
Keep the guidelines but allow small postings regarding
information that helps us all reel in the fish such as
guide services, tackle deals or the invitation to see
some cool pics on a tackle/fishing related site. BUT
flame every posting of porno junk to this group.
I vote committee to keep it sane but allow fishing
related postings.

Gil

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AL

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Abolish the Guidelines.

AL

"The RodMaker" ...> The members of the R.O.F.B. have been give a choice!
> To abolish the Guidelines of the R.O.F.B. ...Or to appoint a committee...


JohnM

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Forget the committe, forget the guidelines. This is a newsgroup/discussion
group. This is not an elected office. This is not really that important.
Just a forum to share ideas. If some people spent as much time fishing as
they did worrying about what other people do, they might actually learn a
thing or two-
Just MHO
John


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Odin Mattes

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If ROFB abolishes all guidelines it may invite some problems. When the
group as a whole sticks to some basic guidelines, it keeps everybody more
polite and more on-topic. I am a regular numerous Usenet groups; some
moderated, some not moderated but have guidelines, and some totally
unrestricted. In my experiences, the totally unrestricted groups are more
prone to spam, off-topic flame wars, crossposting, trolls, etc...If you want
an example, go to rec.music.makers.guitar (I am also a musician). This
group has a lot of really good members who have a lot to offer, but there
are a collection of about 15 or 20 people who are constantly going at each
other. On RMMG anything goes, so you are likely to see ridiculously vulgar,
off topic headers, insane flame wars and rants, and you have to sort through
dozens of posts to find something guitar related sometimes. I say stick
with the guidelines.

--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on
what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed
lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin


The RodMaker <thero...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The members of the R.O.F.B. have been give a choice!

Charlie

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Right on Max , life's too short to be complicating things any more than
they already are .

The RodMaker

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Kelly

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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Im with you on this!
I vote NO.

>
>I vote no for guidelines, committees, cops. I vote yes, for not reading
>posts you don't like, using the "block" features of the browsers, for less
>bickering, for less power struggles and less trying to impress others with
>how much you may know.
>

ABE WATSON

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I voted yes because!! There are 23 news groups that match fishing and
out of the 23 there is only 1 R.O.F.B. and IF YOU have ever read any of
the other ng's you would see WHY we NEED to keep THIS NG policed up.I
for one don't want to be talking about bass fishing and have some CREEP
come on and try to sell xx rated movies or cars or ANYTHING that doesn't
have to do with bass fishing. I think we keep this NG pretty well
cleaned up and we want to KEEP it that way. IMHO

MikeDi1123

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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yes to the committee

mike

Doug

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Odin
Did you ever inquire about the hyraulic steering not staying
centered. If so what was the reasponse that you got.
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000 22:59:47 GMT, "Odin Mattes" <od...@flash.net>
wrote:

Capt. Len

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Heck, I'd like to know how to become a member of the GROUP, much less the
comitee!!! Where's the roster?
--
Capt. Len "Tazman Qualls
Tazman's Guide Service
Lake Okeechobee - Stick Marsh
SouthernBass.com's Pro Guide Section

Shawn Kemmer

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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Yes to committee.

--
Early to Bed, Early to Rise... Fish all Day, Make up Lies.
Shawn

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S & C Clark

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Welcome aboard Capin'........ yer in!
--
Steve from Stony

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The RodMaker

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While this has not been an "official " vote of any sort,I will
post the results. Which can be tallied independently on
http://www.Deja.com

Committee: Against: To Abolish:
Shawn yes
Mikedi1123 yes
Doug -off topic
Odin yes
JohnM
yes
Al
yes
Gibert yes
SteveF yes
MikeGetz yes
Charlie
yes
Abe Watson yes x 2 only one vote counts,sorry Abe
Kelly
yes
S&C Clark No
Max Huber yes
Jay Estes
yes
Steve Huber yes
Fool4Bass No yes
Tourney yes
Moe Conway yes
The RodMaker yes

By 2nd grade math I have 11 yes to a committee
2 against said committee
6 in favor of abolishing the guidelines.

While I am no expert in "Robert's Rules of Order" I believe
that still constitutes a majority. How say you!

Disp 600

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Apr 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/10/00
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Still boring......

Still Strippin' Line in Pa,

George

Odin Mattes

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I never inquired, but rofb would be a good place to do it because there a
plenty of boat owners here.

--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on
what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed
lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin


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tran frank

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Apr 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/10/00
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Hmmmmmm- thought I had voted, but I don't see my name on the
unofficial tally.... Maybe RodMaker has put me in his kill
file??? lol

yes to committee

yes to guidelines

... both votes for reasons and rationale posted previously.
--
-tran
Oakland, CA

S & C Clark

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Apr 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/10/00
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Rodmaker I think you have made a mistake, I did not vote for yes or for no!
Doesn't matter to me one way or another. Guideline or no I will maintain my
own as most do in my opinion. However I can appreciate a committee if it is
objective and I would consider/abide by suggestions made by that body.
--
Steve from Stony Sitting on the fence
WWWWWWWW


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The RodMaker

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Steve, the committee is to comprise 5 volunteers. We're still
lookin.

--
The RodMaker(aka)
The Shadow......hehehe


stevef <stev...@home.com> wrote in message news:38ef51ba.205638@news...


> So how big is the committee and who is on it?
>
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 20:52:00 -0700, "The RodMaker"
> <thero...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

Bob Redding

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Max, I remember you offer to host the r.o.f.b. FAQs, and the heavy handed
reply by the Rogue. I agree, in both cases, you were treated rudely. What
ever the group decides, I would like to suggest that gentle messages should
be posted, privately, to newbies who violate the commerial/advertising ban
in the guidelines.

This is my gentle invitation, I usually send to such posters, privately:

"Please read the r.o.f.b. Posting Guidelines. It forbids commercial
advertisements. Contribute to the news group and include your web site or
advertisement in your signature, which is permitted by the Guidelines."

There are several contributors here, who I will leave up to them to
identify, who have accepted the above invitation.

I disagree about the spammers and cross posters. I ignore them when they
spend their post to my email address. I do not ignore them when they send
trash to the news group. That might result in a message I want to read that
gets bumped off my news group server!

-- Go Fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales.
Columbia, SC Lake Murray
Max Huber <mch...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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| When I first started coming to ROFB more than 3 years ago, as a newbie, I
| got blasted by another user, for spamming. At that time I did not know
what
| spam was or I would have stopped posting my rod building supply catalog
| posts sooner.
|
| I was hit by one person who thought he was the "enforcer" of the group and
| in a not so polite way he made his point clear. I fired back to him about
| his methods/tone of informing me of the rules. He got very upset with my
| reply, we bantered back and forth awhile, then he quit the group. His
| quitting was not my request.
|
| Along the way I have posted some replies to questions if I had value to
add
| to the topic, but mostly I sat back and watched the power struggles come
and
| go. After another of the more obnoxious users left the group and before
Moe
| took over the FAQ pages, I had taken up the drive to reconstruct the FAQ
| pages and host them on my site. But, that was short lived, as the once
power
| king started to tell me how and what should be done. I stopped my work and
| others took it up from there.
|
| My point is, over the last few years, more time and energy has been wasted
| arguing over what should/should not be done in the ROFB and who the cops
| will be than it is worth.
|

| --
| Max Huber
| Re/Bait On-Line Stores

| > The RodMaker <thero...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:pnwH4.4172$RY5....@nntp3.onemain.com...

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