pavillions; taxes
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]ke Eldberg
Gentles all, I would like to ask your opinions about a couple
of things which have recently been done here in Nordmark.
The first of these concerns the Medieval Week at Visby. This is
the largest annual event in Nordmark, not only in terms of SCA
attendance, but also because it coincides with a medieval festival
organized by other living history groups, including a medieval
market, jousting, mystery plays, street theaters, a reenactment
of the Danish attack in 1361, lectures, and much else.
Since 1985, Nordmark has taken part in these activities. Crash
space has been arranged at a school. However, this year the local
canton decided to make the event an all-camping one. It now turns
out that there will be two SCA encampments. One is to be a sort of
"enchanted ground" which means Period Pavillions Only. Those who
do not have approved, authentic pavillions will not be allowed to
camp anywhere in sight; instead, they will be located at a mundane
camping ground a few hundred meters away.
It occurred to me that this is a very un-SCAish way of doing
things. Clearly, this is what happens when we make authenticity
the number one priority. On the one hand, we get a camp which
will be worth seeing. No mundane items will be left in sight
there, and all gentles will wear the correct garments. On the
other hand, the SCA participants are divided in two groups:
those who can afford a pavillion (or arrange to stay in one),
and those who only have mundane tents.
Since we have discussed authenticity here recently, and many
have expressed a desire to increase it, I ask you all: Do you
think that the Visby arrangements are a good thing, or a bad
one? Could a similar thing be done at Pennsic? Would it be good?
For myself, I am neutral -- there are good and bad sides of the
matter. I just want to probe the reactions of you gentles on
the other side of the waters.
The second item is a tax that has been proposed by our Baron,
Seneschal and Treasurer. In order to keep the Barony funded,
and to purchase for it such regalia, banners and other common
property as to enrich our glory, they wish to levy a tax of
slightly more than two dollars on each participant at all
official events in the Barony.
The sum is modest, considering that the average event fee here
is about 20 dollars. I know that Separate local membership fees
are against SCA rules. Instead, this tax has been proposed.
While I personally would not mind making such a contribution
to the Barony, I am asking myself whether it does not in fact
constitute a local membership fee -- since attending events will
be impossible without paying it.
I would ask ye all whether you know of any other group which has
a similar tax, and if you think that it is legal in our Society.
Your servant,
William
Carl J.M. Alexander
>William de Corbie sends greetings onto the Rialto!
>
>a medieval festival organized by other living history groups, including
>
>[T]his year the local canton decided to make the event an all-camping
>one .... there will be two SCA encampments. One is to be ... Period
>will not be allowed to camp anywhere in sight; instead, they will be
>located at a mundane camping ground a few hundred meters away.
>
>It occurred to me that this is a very un-SCAish way of doing
>things. Clearly, this is what happens when we make authenticity
>
>I ask you all: Do you think that the Visby arrangements are a good
>thing, or a bad one? Could a similar thing be done at Pennsic?
which was created by other groups, which have certain expectations
regarding authenticity which are not the same as the Society's. The
SCA is, in effect, a visitor there. When in Rome, do as the Romans.
On the other hand, Pennsic is ours; while higher standards of authenticity
may gradually evolve in the SCA, it would be inappropriate to suddenly
impose a radical segregation of period and inauthentic campsites. (I
don't say that segregation of some sort would necessarily be out of
place, as long as it wasn't a case of the people with inauthentic
camps getting second-rate campsites. I guess I'm saying that
'seperaate but equal' might be okay at Pennsic, but seperate and
unequal, as you describe at Wisby, would not. (And for the lawyers on
this bridge, yes, I am aware of the sad mess in which Dean Houston
and his students deservedly left the concept of 'seperate but equal.' ;^) ))
>[A] tax ... has been proposed by our Baron, Seneschal and Treasurer.
>In order to keep the Barony funded ... and to purchase ... common
>property ... they wish to levy a tax of slightly more than two dollars
>
>Instead, this tax has been proposed.
I think the BoD would have a fit. This is what fundraising events --
auctions, dunking booths, paid demos -- are for.
Alexander of Kiev
Carl Alexander
ca...@silver.lcs.mit.edu
Zebee Johnstone
>>William de Corbie sends greetings onto the Rialto!
>>
>>[A] tax ... has been proposed by our Baron, Seneschal and Treasurer.
>>In order to keep the Barony funded ... and to purchase ... common
>>property ... they wish to levy a tax of slightly more than two dollars
>>on each participant at all official events in the Barony.
>>
>>I know that Separate local membership fees are against SCA rules.
>>Instead, this tax has been proposed.
>I think the BoD would have a fit. This is what fundraising events --
>auctions, dunking booths, paid demos -- are for.
Interesting. In Lochac, we have the Principality travel fund,
which is a levy on Principality events to help fund
the extensive travel done by the Royalty.
I think it is about A$4 per head.
It is incorporated into the site fee.
Selfran
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David Schroeder
William mentions a large event/demo at Visby where the SCA plans to have
two camping areas, one for mostly period camps and one for the rest. He
asks if this is 'appropriate' for the SCA. I certainly think that it is,
especially in the context of a 'demo' where we are trying to present the
Society in the best possible light. Perhaps one could refer, half in
jest, to the "High" camp and the "Low," so as to encourage members to
move from one area to the other as their interest and finances allowed.
There has been some discussion about trying to do the same at Pennsic
over time, but at the War people tend to want to camp with friends who
won't all share the same levels of authenticity, which makes it harder.
William's other question, about a Baronial Tax levied on event fees,
is more problematic. I, for one, see no problem with autocrats setting
the fees for their event at whatever level they deem appropriate and then
donating what surplus they will to the barony. I _do_ have a problem with
it being _required_ however. There are MANY ways for groups in the S.C.A.
to raise money -- perhaps we can start a thread discussing them -- other
than such a "tax." I'd like to see a system where such contributions
are voluntary, not required by the baron.
I look forward to reading what others have to say on the issues.
Much obliged -- Bertram
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>> our Baron, Seneschal and Treasurer. wish to levy a tax of slightly more
>> than two dollars on each participant at all official events in the
>> Barony.
Alexander of Kiev:
> I think the BoD would have a fit. This is what fundraising events are
> for.
I don't understand? Why shouldn't we be allowed to have events that are
fund rasiers? There are even rules about how to conduct them in (i think)
the Kingdom Treasurer's policies. Why would the Board have a fit, if we
follow those rules? Because we did at every event, when it was intended for
only a few? (But the rules doesn't say that it's only intrended for a few
events). Because it isn't traditional in our area? (But there's no rule
against breaking traditions).
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Josh Mittleman
> ...there will be two SCA encampments. One is to be a sort of "enchanted
> ground" which means Period Pavillions Only. Those who do not have
> approved, authentic pavillions will not be allowed to camp anywhere in
> sight; instead, they will be located at a mundane camping ground a few
> hundred meters away.
I don't think this is a problem, for several reasons. First, the concept
of an "enchanted ground" has gained acceptance throughout the SCA. As long
as no one is forced to camp in the authentic area, there should be no
complaints: If they want to put their lovely pavilion among the Coleman
tents, that's their choice, and it should be honored. I think the West
uses a similar policy at most of their events: modern tents have to out of
sight of the central area of the event. Second, the Visby event is at
least partly a demo. We should have different standards for demos than for
regular events. In the Antipodean thread, it has been pointed out that the
SCA differs from many organizations in that we don't normally have
spectators, and therefore don't have to think of ourselves as being on
display for people who don't know what we are. A demo is different: We are
on display, and we have an obligation to present our best (read "most
authentic") aspects.
> The second item is a tax that has been proposed by our Baron, Seneschal
> and Treasurer. In order to keep the Barony funded, and to purchase for it
> such regalia, banners and other common property as to enrich our glory,
> they wish to levy a tax of slightly more than two dollars on each
> participant at all official events in the Barony.
This is a very tricky issue, and how it falls out depends largely on how it
is presented. I'm not completely certain what seneschalate policies apply,
and I strongly recommend that the baronial officers check with the
principality and kingdom seneschals before promulgating a policy.
I can offer a few thoughts: On one hand, every event that takes place in
the barony is under the control of the barony. Therefore, the barony might
be able to require that every autocrat increase event fees enough to
transfer $2.00 per head to the baronial treasury. By-Law V.C.4
specifically excepts event admission fees from the prohibition on setting
local dues. On the other hand, the barony cannot tax members. Corpora
makes it quite clear that baronial laws & charters have no force, so a
barony cannot require anyone to do anything, including pay taxes. I would
tentatively conclude that as long as the "tax" is always a surcharge on an
existing event fee, there should be no problem.
However, I find the whole idea repugnant. If I lived in Nordmark, I would
loudly oppose this proposal, and commit myself to developing alternative
strategies. The SCA should not be supported by taxing participants. There
are lots of possibilities for fundraisers which will bring money from
outside the SCA, and allow the participants to spend their own money on
their own activity. For regalia, the common practice is to solicit
donations for specific projects and find artisans who are willing to do the
work with minimal compensation beyond the price of materials. I think
that's integral to the SCA: We run on volunteer work, not on paid help.
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Rick Cavasin
Rialto does Balderik send his greetings.
Regarding the segregation of campsites at the Visby
event, I see nothing wrong with this idea. It highlights
what we are _trying_ to achieve, but still provides a
place for those who do not have the necessary equipment.
Nobody is really 'excluded'. (for the record, I still
use a mundane tent, and so would be relegated to the
mundane campsite if I were camping at the Visby event.
I will be attending the Visby event - gloat,gloat,gloat -
but will be staying at a hotel in town).
Vis ses,
Balderik
Carl J.M. Alexander
>>> our Baron, Seneschal and Treasurer. wish to levy a tax of slightly more
>>> than two dollars on each participant at all official events in the
>>> Barony.
>
Alexander of Kiev:
>> I think the BoD would have a fit. This is what fundraising events are
>> for.
>I don't understand? Why shouldn't we be allowed to have events that are
>fund rasiers?
activities at events, which are fundraisers. What I suspect the BoD
would have a fit about is your group imposing a poll tax on events.
I may well be wrong; it would be a fit over semantics anyway. Your
group could achieve exactly the same thing by simply setting the fees
for all events US$2 higher than they otherwise would have, and puting
the residue in the Baronial general fund -- which I assume is what they
do now when an event turns a profit. But this approach would not
involve that aweful word, "tax."
ELDR...@ucf1vm.bitnet
banners and other nifty stuff (ie regalia). One thing our barony decided some
years ago was that if we couldn't make it, we weren't going to have it. No
purchasing of regalia. Of course, this may not be feasible for your barony,
it is simply a statement of what we decided when we became a barony.
Lady Catherine Elizabeth Cynthia Eldredge
Barony of Darkwater, Trimaris Orlando, Florida
Terry Nutter
William writes,
> On the
>other hand, the SCA participants are divided in two groups:
>those who can afford a pavillion (or arrange to stay in one),
>and those who only have mundane tents.
This sort of thing has been said so often that I've finally lost
control of my fingers and _had_ to answer.
I own two camping live-in things. One is a Wentzel four-man
dome, ovalish, 8'6" x 10' with a center height on 5'10". In
most of it I can't stand up. I'm lazy right now, so calculating
the area as a 10' circle, that's about 75 sq. ft. -- but a the
outer 2' ring -- that's 27 sq. ft., the difference between an
8 ft and a 10 ft circle -- either isn't there, or the roof is
so low that it might as well not be.
The other is a 10 sided medieval pavilion, approximating a 15 ft
diameter circle. It's floor space for all practical purposes is
150 sq ft. The ceiling height at the immediate edge is 5 ft, and
within inches has made it to 6 ft.
Guess which is more fun to spend a week in?
Guess which cost more?
The only things to be said for the modern tent are that it is
faster by far to put up and down, it travels in a _much_ smaller
space, and I didn't have to make it.
The medieval pavilion cost substantially less, _so long as we
don't count my time_. It is not poor people who can't afford
them. It's busy ones. MEDIEVAL PAVILIONS ARE NEITHER
PARTICULARLY EXPENSIVE NOR PARTICULARLY HARD TO MAKE.
If you already have a modern tent, want a pavilion, have the time
to make it, but _no longer_ have the money -- because of your
modern tent -- try selling your modern tent. You'll probably
break even financially.
As Cariadoc/David often says, authenticity is really neither so
hard nor so expensive as most people make out.
Best wishes, and in service to the Society,
-- Angharad/Terry
Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz
Arval expresses himself saying: "However, I find the whole idea repugnant."
And others seems to have similar opinions. Well I don't find the idea
repugnant, but I do find it shallow.
I would much rather see you have a 'special' fundraising event, rather than
have a surcharge on all events. In this way, people can see that the 'theme'
of the event is fundraising for a Baronial Pavilion for the Visby demo. You
can have a surcharge on the event. But this is much more acceptable because
people know that they are coming to the event to give money to this fund-
raiser. You can have a service auction where individuals offer services, such
as cooking a meal, or giving a backrub and the service is auctioned to the
high bidder. (People usually bid in cents and small dollar amounts.) You can
have an artifact auction where you get people of the Barony to donate goods
that they have made. They don't have to be particularly medieval. You can
have a 'pay-your-way' tourney where to fight a bout would cost you $.50 or
$1.
But the whole point of a fundraising event is that you are *inviting* people
to give to the Barony rather than demanding those funds on every event.
I tend NOT to boycot events because of high costs. However, sometimes I think
I should. I think that you would make participation in the group more difficult
if you had a surcharge on every event.
If you are really interested in the fundraising event, I would suggest
sending mail to Marian Greenleaf and/or Ellisif Flakkari.
(k...@a.nl.cs.cmu.edu and Monica...@cs.cmu.edu)
What other ideas can we come up with for fundraisers? I know that Thescorre
put together a recipe book to sell as a fundraiser.
And Ellisif put together a 'Not Neccessarily the Pikestaff' as a fundraiser
for Pikestaff A&S issue last year. This year good gentles have been donating
goods to be raffled off. And Ellisif has 'deputies' around the kingdom selling
raffle tickets for her.
What have you done in your areas (besides a event tax ;> ) to raise funds?
Andrea Gansley-Ortiz Esmeralda la Sabia
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Sam Bassett
>Your
>group could achieve exactly the same thing by simply setting the fees
>for all events US$2 higher than they otherwise would have, and puting
>the residue in the Baronial general fund -- which I assume is what they
>do now when an event turns a profit. But this approach would not
>involve that aweful word, "tax."
Yup -- as Steward, I would have landed with both feet (screaming
loudly) on any group ah.... indelicate... enough to use the word "tax".
Semantics and what you call things _does_ matter -- there are a
multitude of things that the Steward and BoD will let you do if you call
them by a Mediaeval name that they would not if you used a modern word.
Upping the site fee is innocuous -- imposing "taxes" (even if
the populace consents to be "taxed") is a red flag to the IRS and other
busies, not to mention an invitation to idiots to file lawsuits.
With all due respect to your Baron, pllease tell him to practice
discretion on this one . . .
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Andrew Smith
>
>Gentles all, I would like to ask your opinions about a couple
>of things which have recently been done here in Nordmark.
>out that there will be two SCA encampments. One is to be a sort of
>"enchanted ground" which means Period Pavillions Only. Those who
>do not have approved, authentic pavillions will not be allowed to
>camp anywhere in sight; instead, they will be located at a mundane
>camping ground a few hundred meters away.
It doesn't seem kind to poor, starving students (like myself)
but then again, how many poor starving students are going to
make it there at all?
But that's not really why I'm writing.
>The second item is a tax that has been proposed by our Baron,
>Seneschal and Treasurer. In order to keep the Barony funded,
>and to purchase for it such regalia, banners and other common
>property as to enrich our glory, they wish to levy a tax of
>slightly more than two dollars on each participant at all
>official events in the Barony.
>
>The sum is modest, considering that the average event fee here
>is about 20 dollars. I know that Separate local membership fees
>are against SCA rules. Instead, this tax has been proposed.
>While I personally would not mind making such a contribution
>to the Barony, I am asking myself whether it does not in fact
>constitute a local membership fee -- since attending events will
>be impossible without paying it.
>
>I would ask ye all whether you know of any other group which has
>a similar tax, and if you think that it is legal in our Society.
>
>Your servant,
>William
A required fee at all events, as I understood it, was not permitted.
To add insult to injury, US$20 _average event fee_! <8'0 ! And
_then_ be required to pay a further US$2! This amounts to over
CAN$25! We have a limit of sorts of CAN$15 on _any_ event, and have
_never_ broken the CAN$12 mark. Either your barony is expensive, or
we cost almost nothing for events! Hey, this could be a plug for
some of you to come to OUR events. :) :) :)
I am sure that the "tax" (let's call it a 'required donation', less people
get upset) has many good planned uses; regailia, banners, etc. I
am of the firm belief that this collection should be done differently.
Fund Raising Events as listed in your newsletter is the first.
A request for donations, or passing of the helm.
A small fee for use of facilities for meetings, practices, etc. (yes, we
get most of our facilities free through the local university. It works!)
Or groups or individuals who are willing to invest the cash/ time/
effort, in order to produce those things that the barony _needs_.
We are facing problems with getting loaner gear for newbies in all areas
of our activity. Currently, we loan our personal equipment, garb, etc.
but we are also working on good ways to encourage _volentary donations_
. Who knows, we may yet succeed! ;)
This post is getting too long to keep anyone's attention, so I will
leave you. Thank-you, Lords and Ladies for you attention.
We now return you to the regularly scheduled programming.
Sebastian
amls...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
"Never challange a guy with a catapult to a snowball fight." - Hagar
kkk
Stephen Whitis
>Seneschal and Treasurer. In order to keep the Barony funded,
>and to purchase for it such regalia, banners and other common
>property as to enrich our glory, they wish to levy a tax of
>slightly more than two dollars on each participant at all
>official events in the Barony.
What would be defined as a official event? Fighter practice? Dance
practice? I am assuming that these do *not* qualify.
Is this tax paid by everyone at the event, or just the members of
the barony? I have no complaints against a local group making a
profit off of an event, but I see no need to call it a tax. I
would be opposed to charging more for your local people, who will
be doing the work to make the event happen, than you do the others
who come to enjoy themselves.
Stephen of the Grove
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Linette Di Addabbo
> From: va...@emil.csd.uu.se ("]ke Eldberg")
> Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
> Organization: The Internet
> William de Corbie sends greetings onto the Rialto!
> Gentles all, I would like to ask your opinions about a couple
> of things which have recently been done here in Nordmark.
> The first of these concerns the Medieval Week at Visby. This
> is
> the largest annual event in Nordmark, not only in terms of
> SCA
> attendance, but also because it coincides with a medieval
> festival
> organized by other living history groups, including a
> medieval
> market, jousting, mystery plays, street theaters, a
> reenactment
> of the Danish attack in 1361, lectures, and much else.
> Since 1985, Nordmark has taken part in these activities.
> Crash
> space has been arranged at a school. However, this year the
> local
> canton decided to make the event an all-camping one. It now
> turns
> out that there will be two SCA encampments. One is to be a
> sort of
> "enchanted ground" which means Period Pavillions Only. Those
> who
> do not have approved, authentic pavillions will not be
> allowed to
> camp anywhere in sight; instead, they will be located at a
> mundane
> camping ground a few hundred meters away.
> It occurred to me that this is a very un-SCAish way of doing
> things. Clearly, this is what happens when we make
> authenticity
> the number one priority. On the one hand, we get a camp which
> will be worth seeing. No mundane items will be left in sight
> there, and all gentles will wear the correct garments. On the
> other hand, the SCA participants are divided in two groups:
> those who can afford a pavillion (or arrange to stay in one),
> and those who only have mundane tents.
> Since we have discussed authenticity here recently, and many
> have expressed a desire to increase it, I ask you all: Do you
> think that the Visby arrangements are a good thing, or a bad
> one? Could a similar thing be done at Pennsic? Would it be
> good?
> For myself, I am neutral -- there are good and bad sides of
> the
> matter. I just want to probe the reactions of you gentles on
> the other side of the waters.
I can see the other side, SCAers and other gentles that wish to confer the
"dream "Dream" to all who see these events are perhaps a tad over
ellious. In thier rush to put forth thier most authentic faces
t they have missed the face most SCAers lead two lives and have to "PAY" for
both of them. This is not always easy and by no means cheap. I know for a
fact that I spent several thousand dollars last year alone on sca items for
myself and my "Former" lord. I can see that they might want to set up the
primary area in the front, but I don't see the reason to set you off at such a
distance.
> The second item is a tax that has been proposed by our Baron,
> Seneschal and Treasurer. In order to keep the Barony funded,
> and to purchase for it such regalia, banners and other common
> property as to enrich our glory, they wish to levy a tax of
> slightly more than two dollars on each participant at all
> official events in the Barony.
> The sum is modest, considering that the average event fee
> here
> is about 20 dollars. I know that Separate local membership
> fees
> are against SCA rules. Instead, this tax has been proposed.
> While I personally would not mind making such a contribution
> to the Barony, I am asking myself whether it does not in fact
> constitute a local membership fee -- since attending events
> will
> be impossible without paying it.
> I would ask ye all whether you know of any other group which
> has
> a similar tax, and if you think that it is legal in our
> Society.
#1----Your events cost $20.00 you are talking about weekend full camping
events are you not? Site fee included correct? I have never heard of such a
tac in the Kingdom of Atenvelt for any group. My feeling is this if you
can't count on the donations from artists, good lords and ladys...or even fund
raisers then perhaps a tax is the only method left to them....but if these
things are not tried or kept up then I would rebel against such a "tax"
I know that our fund raisers make for most of our needs. Even I make a extra
effort to donate to such events as a auction at 12th night for 12 loves of
bread deliveralbe at Estrella War. This fetched over 25 dollars. Several
other s did simular things and made more than enough money to see us though
several months....
I can't believe that the spirt of the dream is so down trodden that those good
lords and ladies of your area can not raise funds in any other way but a tax.
It saddens my heart...
Linette
Roadster Racewerks
I think perhaps the Visby event is *not* a good case to make when criticizing
over-zealous authenticity. It is my impression from corresponding with other
Drachenwalders that Visby is actually a mundane-run attempt at true historic
recreation of a particular historic event. As such it would naturally require
a much higher standard of recreation than an SCA double-elim tourney....
I wish them well, and hope the "boonies" the non-pavillioned masses are exiled
to are not *too* far away. Despite my generally more tolerant bent, I think
Visby is an exception.
Moreach NicMaolain
tri...@agora.rain.com
D. W. James
)Gentles all, I would like to ask your opinions about a couple
)of things which have recently been done here in Nordmark.
Ok. I'm late, but I always have opinions...
)Since we have discussed authenticity here recently, and many
)have expressed a desire to increase it, I ask you all: Do you
)think that the Visby arrangements are a good thing, or a bad
)one? Could a similar thing be done at Pennsic? Would it be good?
)For myself, I am neutral -- there are good and bad sides of the
)matter. I just want to probe the reactions of you gentles on
)the other side of the waters.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. It isn't an SCA event, we're
just guests there, so accomodating their desire for authenticity
is courteous.
)The second item is a tax that has been proposed by our Baron,
)Seneschal and Treasurer. In order to keep the Barony funded,
)and to purchase for it such regalia, banners and other common
)property as to enrich our glory, they wish to levy a tax of
)slightly more than two dollars on each participant at all
)official events in the Barony.
I don't see anything wrong with it... as long as paying it is
entirely optional! If it is considered to be "required" then I'd say
there is a problem, as others have noted.
)I would ask ye all whether you know of any other group which has
)a similar tax, and if you think that it is legal in our Society.
No, I don't know of any other group ever having done it.
I think others have answered the second question.
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