Banned Weapons of the SCA
Kenneth C Mondschein
Dear Gentles,
OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
out. We can't use the following weapons:
Pike mauls
Bows with draw weights over #30
Shinai (in the East)
Flails of any sort
Any thrown weapon (exception: in mixed combat, javelins may be used)
Arquebus
Cannon
Holy hand grenades
Poisoned apples, or any other fruit, cloven or uncloven.
That gambeson you haven't washed since Pennsic III
Lacrosse sticks (see "thrown weapons")
Dwarves, either as melee or missle weapons
Farm animals
Pillows
Mr. Ed
"Hits of the 70's" compilations
Hand phasers
Assault rifles
Can anyone add to my list?
Ken Mondschein
Tristan Clair de Lune
Dennis O'Connor
v081...@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Kenneth C Mondschein) writes:
] Dear Gentles,
]
] OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
] out. We can't use the following weapons:
]
] Pike mauls
] Bows with draw weights over #30
Bows of up to 50-lb draw are allowed in golf-tube combat archery.
Bows of any weight are allowed in field (target) archery.
] Shinai (in the East)
] Flails of any sort
] Any thrown weapon (exception: in mixed combat, javelins may be used)
There are also some legal "throwing axes" in Atenveldt.
[...]
] Can anyone add to my list?
See-thru shields. Shields with holes for looking thru.
Any weapon over 7.5 feet with a cutting edge.
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Marc Donovan
re: thrown weapons, An Tir allows throwing axes, slings and lacrosse sticks
to throw "stones" (cut tennis balls), and atlatl (spear throwing stick).
I believe the bow restriction in An Tir is #28 at 28" for combat archery only.
Anything else, someone from An Tir would have to answer, since I haven't
lived there for a while...
aelric farrider
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Arval Benicoeur
Are shinai allowed in list combat anywhere?
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Wilson Heydt
Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
> OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
>out. We can't use the following weapons:
>
>
> Can anyone add to my list?
Morning stars
--Hal
Hal Ravn, West Kingdom
Wilson H. Heydt, Jr., Albany, CA 94706, 510/524-8321 (home)
Nothing in this missive constitutes an act or opinion of the Lord High
Constable of the Kingdom of the West unless otherwise explicitly stated.
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Bruce Patrick Chapman
>
>Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
>> OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
>>out. We can't use the following weapons:
>>
>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>
>> Can anyone add to my list?
>
>Morning stars
>
cheers!
cat
JEREMIAH M EDWARDS
Greetings unto Arval,
> > >] Shinai (in the East)
>
> Are shinai allowed in list combat anywhere?
>
At least ten years ago, when a friend of mine was stationed on Okinawa,
it was illegal to import rattan. Shanai and bow staffs were the common
weapons. Bow staffs were also cut into sword lengths. Bow staffs have
been banned in Atlantia because they are considered laminated wood.
Gaelan MacCuinneagain
Elvegast, Windmaster's Hill, Atlantia
Kevin William Ryan
(Wilson Heydt) writes:
>
>Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
>> OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
>>out. We can't use the following weapons:
>>
>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>
>> Can anyone add to my list?
>
>Morning stars
>
Don't forget shields with wheels, parapets, and crennelations - for
anyone who remembers the Tuchux bridge shield...
kwr
aka Donnallain o'r Galaru Glais
Internet: kevin...@cmu.edu
Lyle FitzWilliam
>
>Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
>>
>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>
>> Can anyone add to my list?
>
>Morning stars
Flails, in general. Or any kind of weapon that has a flexible section (such
as a spear with a pennant...)
Quarterstaffs.
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Iain Odlin
>Hal Ravn writes:
>>Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
>>>... We can't use the following weapons:
>>>
>>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>>
>>> Can anyone add to my list?
>>
>>Morning stars
>
>Flails, in general. Or any kind of weapon that has a flexible section (such
>as a spear with a pennant...)
>
>Quarterstaffs.
Fire casks; boiling oil... Trebuchets with real rocks.
Taunting in Outrageous French Accents? ;)
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Charles Parr
>> OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
>>out. We can't use the following weapons:
>>
>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>
>> Can anyone add to my list?
>
>Morning stars
>
Nope, I personally know one gentle, Magnus Erikson/Edward
Stirling, of the Barony of Borealis (edmonton alberta), who
is authorised with morningstar. It is case by case only here
in An Tir.
BTW, he found that the compromises necessary to make the
'mace and chain' safe rendered it rather ineffective.
I don't think he's fought with it for 5 years or so.
Carolus Malvoix
Montengarde, An Tir
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separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Pavao Aaron
>
> Don't forget shields with wheels, parapets, and crennelations - for
>anyone who remembers the Tuchux bridge shield...
>
> kwr
> aka Donnallain o'r Galaru Glais
>
>Internet: kevin...@cmu.edu
>
wheels protruded too far from the shield face.
-> Chandler
SCA: Chandler Greyfeathre
MKA: Aaron Pavao
NET: pa...@cae.wisc.edu
"May all your deaths be little ones."
Therion
banned, Chandler replies:
> I believe the reason that shield was disqualified was merely that the
>wheels protruded too far from the shield face.
When the 'chucks first ran it out and everyone finished applauding and
cheering, a couple of marshals came up and said that they couldn't use it
because it had holes in the face of the shield to use spears through. The
Tuchux acquiesced, and covered the holes with tape so that they couldn't use .
them.
The marshals then put their heads together, and decided that the shield
couldn't be used because there were too many large nails used in it's
construction and it was "too dangerous".
The Tuchux and their erstwhile foes were mightily disappointed.
Therion,
who was in the group facing them, making plans on how to
defeat the shield.
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Tuomas Viljanen
>In article <1rq2ma...@ymir.cs.umass.edu> gr...@ibis.cs.umass.edu (Lyle FitzWilliam) writes:
>>Hal Ravn writes:
>>>Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
>>>>... We can't use the following weapons:
>>>>
>>>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone add to my list?
>>>
>>>Morning stars
>>
>>Flails, in general. Or any kind of weapon that has a flexible section (such
>>as a spear with a pennant...)
>>
>>Quarterstaffs.
>
> Fire casks; boiling oil... Trebuchets with real rocks.
I some half an a year ago suggested the Byzantine scythed chariots of
Emperor Alexios Komnenos would be not very legal either. How about Greek Fire ?
Or organ guns, even with rattan bullets ? Elephants would seemingly be OK, if
stuffed enough in duct tape :)
> Taunting in Outrageous French Accents? ;)
>
Speaking French with English pronounciation, at least.
How about Over-Exposed Limburger Cheese or Gorgonzola (at feasts) ?
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Lyle FitzWilliam
>> OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
>>out. We can't use the following weapons:
>>
>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>
>> Can anyone add to my list?
>
>Morning stars
>
> --Hal
>
> Hal Ravn, West Kingdom
> Wilson H. Heydt, Jr., Albany, CA 94706, 510/524-8321 (home)
Flails, in general.
Quarterstaffs.
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In article <1993Apr26....@pbhya.PacBell.COM> whh...@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) writes:
>
>Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
>> OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
>>out. We can't use the following weapons:
>>
>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>
>> Can anyone add to my list?
>
>Morning stars
>
> --Hal
>
> Hal Ravn, West Kingdom
> Wilson H. Heydt, Jr., Albany, CA 94706, 510/524-8321 (home)
>
Flails, in general, and quarterstaffs.
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In article <1993Apr26....@pbhya.PacBell.COM> whh...@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) writes:
>
>Tristan Clair de Lune (Ken Mondschein) writes:
>> OK, the resident Stupid Newbie has finally gotten things straightened
>>out. We can't use the following weapons:
>>
>> Pike mauls [etc.]
>>
>> Can anyone add to my list?
>
>Morning stars
>
> --Hal
>
> Hal Ravn, West Kingdom
> Wilson H. Heydt, Jr., Albany, CA 94706, 510/524-8321 (home)
Flails, in general.
Quarterstaffs.
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In article <44...@creatures.cs.vt.edu> j...@nutter.cs.vt.edu (Terry Nutter)
writes:
>The logic of my argument was this:
> 1. Caid/Caidis is neither stem-shift nor i-stem and cannot be
> feminine. Therefore, it must be either neuter or masculine.
> 2. If Caid/Caidis were neuter, the nominative/accusative plural
> form would be "Caida." The only nominative/accusative plural
> form I have ever seen has been "Caides." Therefore it cannot
> be neuter and _must_ be masculine.
>
>The argument over the nominative/accusative plural was used to
>exclude the neuter possibility, not the feminine (which was excluded
>in [1.] above by the stem-structure argument).
>
>While, in an earlier posting, I had shied away from Latin philological
>arguments, I must say that it is truly a pleasure to be able to air
>this sort of discussion on the Rialto and thank Lord Jeremy for making
>it possible.
>
>Hossein/Greg
Does anyone want to get into a discussion about Latin naming practices for
countries, to determine whether it is _appropriate_ for a latinized name for a
country to be masculine?
The latin word for "country" is "patria", which is feminine. The latin word
for "land" is "terra", feminine. Even the word for farmer, a person who works
the land, while typically a man, is "agricola", which is feminine. All of the
examples of latin names for countries that I can recall are feminine (Roma,
Anglia, Gallia, etc).
Does anyone know of any examples of latinized country names that are
masculine, or even neuter?
SIDE QUESTION: Anyone know the latin form of "William" off-hand?
Lyle FitzWilliam
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