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Laura McKinstry

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Sep 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/16/97
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There is a style of med/ren folding chair I've seen more than once,
authentic, with interlaced curved pieces that fold like the standard "X"
chair, but the design is more ornate, and, I understand, typical of the
travelling furniture of period nobles.

Does anyone have or know where to find plans to build such an item? An
old woodworking magazine, a furniture kit, something?

Thanks for your attention.

-Lark
da...@why.net


Medievalbk

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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There is a style of med/ren folding chair I've seen more than once,
authentic, with interlaced curved pieces that fold like the standard "X"chair,

as early as Roman times I think.

Perhaps unrelated....

What I just saw, in a book on a viking tool chest, "The Mastermyr Find",
is that they found a viking fully reclining patio chair.

Vilyehm the Merchant
G. F. Armoury Books
medie...@aol.com

Carolyn Priest-Dorman

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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Greeting from Thora Sharptooth!

Vilyehm the Merchant (medie...@aol.com) wrote:

>What I just saw, in a book on a viking tool chest, "The Mastermyr Find",
>is that they found a viking fully reclining patio chair.

Wow, I want one. What book is that in?! I didn't see anything about this
mentioned in Arwidsson and Berg's _The Mastermyr Find: A Viking Age Tool
Chest from Gotland_, and I thought they were the only book-length treatment of
the subject!

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capr...@cs.vassar.edu Frostahlid, Austrriki
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Medievalbk

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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that's the book. there are a few copies for sale in phoenix. e-mail
someone there who goes to wed. night fighter practice.

Vilyehm>

Re:

Carolyn Priest-Dorman

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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Greeting from Thora Sharptooth!

Vilyehm (medie...@aol.com) wrote:

No, I meant I want the *chair*. If it can be documented, that is. I checked
Arwidsson and Berg again and found no mention of a "viking fully reclining
patio chair" in the book, nor indeed of any sort of chair. Can you be more
specific?

D. Peters

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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In article <341F3705...@why.net>, Laura McKinstry <da...@why.net> wrote:
>
>There is a style of med/ren folding chair I've seen more than once,
>authentic, with interlaced curved pieces that fold like the standard "X"
>chair, but the design is more ornate, and, I understand, typical of the
>travelling furniture of period nobles.
>
>Does anyone have or know where to find plans to build such an item? An
>old woodworking magazine, a furniture kit, something?

The Sept./Oct. 1985 issue of _Workbench_ magazine has plans in an article
titled "Italian Savonarola Occasional Chair Copied from 15th Century
Museum Piece" (p. 118-119). If your local library doesn't have the
magazine, they should be able to ILL the article for you. Also,
_Constructing Medieval Furniture_ (Stackpole Books, ISBN 0811727955)
contains plans for a less elaborate folding chair (only four cross pieces
instead of twelve).

You can buy such chairs ready-made, but it's harder than it used to be.
The ones that the Vatican Museum catalogue used to sell (with the carved
lions'-heads on the arms) are no longer in production (I know--I tried,
and was told that the factory no longer makes them). The Design Toscano
sells a lovely hand-carved model, if you have the $1325.00 to spare. A
couple Scadians make Savonarola-style chairs; if you can get hold of this
year's Pennsic book, you'll find an ad for one of them.

Hope this helps.

D.Peters
with lots o'furniture plans and zero woodworking skills....:-(

~Parador Moon~

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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In article <341F3705...@why.net>, Laura McKinstry <da...@why.net> wrote:
>There is a style of med/ren folding chair I've seen more than once,
>authentic, with interlaced curved pieces that fold like the standard "X"
>chair, but the design is more ornate, and, I understand, typical of the
>travelling furniture of period nobles.
>
>Does anyone have or know where to find plans to build such an item? An
>old woodworking magazine, a furniture kit, something?
>

>Thanks for your attention.
>
>-Lark
>da...@why.net
>

Plans for the X-chair (or glasconey chair) can be found
in the book "Constructing Medieval Furniture." Greenduck
designs carries this...see their web page at www.greenduck.com.
This same chair was featured in a recent woodworking magazine
a couple months ago, which was basically a reprint of the
article out of the book.

Arabella


Medievalbk

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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>No, I meant I want the *chair*. If it can be documented, that is. I
checked Arwidsson and Berg again and found no mention of a "viking fully
reclining patio chair" in the book,

Drat. you'll have to Get Barry Bard in person. It must have been a
different book. but I saw the picture.

Vilyehm

Catherine Hensley

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Sep 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/18/97
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That's the *Glastonbury* chair, Arabella. I'll show you the article
tonight unless you work until dawn again. <g>

Aithne

GwynnyPOO

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Sep 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/18/97
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Actually, you can still get the inexpensive Savronella repr. chairs
through the military PX. If you are in Atenveldt, Contact Lady Eleanora
Jane of Cantebury, she got us 4-5 of them through the PX.

Gwyn O Glan Y Mor


Temporo mutantor et nos mutantor in illis

James Mahanna

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Sep 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/20/97
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> In article <341F3705...@why.net>, Laura McKinstry <da...@why.net>
wrote:
>
> There is a style of med/ren folding chair I've seen more than once,
> authentic, with interlaced curved pieces that fold like the standard "X"
> chair, but the design is more ornate, and, I understand, typical of the
> travelling furniture of period nobles.
>

I don't know about plans, but I have seen a catalog form which you can
order
a chair like this. the catalog is from a company called Design Toscano.
(cust. svc. # 1 800-525-1233) The chair sells for $1350 +$19.95 (S&H)
the company address is:
Design Toscano, Inc.
17 East Campbell Street
Arlington Heights, IL
60005

Hope this helps...


Dick Eney

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Sep 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/29/97
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In article <01bcc61b$a223c0c0$1b16460c@james-->,

I saw them priced rather cheaper and very well made, at the Maryland
Renaissance Faire.

He does several variations, besides special orders. According to the
flyer I picked up this weekend:

Savonarola (1200-1600+) in quarter-sawn oak - $890
wood seat
Dantesca (1100-1500+) in oak or mahogany - $765, walnut "as available"
leather seat
Styrian stool (no back, leather seat) ca.1200 in oak or mahogany - $250
non-curvy "X" stool (no back, wood seat) (1100+) in oak, mahogany, or
maple - $300

Dan the Master Joyner
Daniel J. Mehn
1820 S. Carrollton Avenue
New Orleans, LA 70118-2830
(504) 861-2212 or 8488
(by appointment only)

I have no connection at all, just admired the work.

=Tamar (sharing computer dick...@access.digex.net)

M.P.Donnelly

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97
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In article <60pqcq$d...@access2.digex.net>, dick...@access2.digex.net
(Dick Eney) wrote:

Daniel Mehn does indeed execute some very fine work. If you are looking
for construction plans, get yourself a copy of Daniel Diehl's book
"Constructing Medieval Furniture" published by Stackpole Books last year.
I believe book info can be obtained via (http://users.aol.com/bbrisbane/)
The book is extermely well writen and has been adopted by the SCA as the
only acceptible book for documentation of period furniture (or so I am
told). In any case, Dan Mehn's Savonarola chair design is featured in the
book. It is not an easy piece to construct and so you may wish to
perchase one instead, but that being said, there is nothing like a
challenge.

Hope this info is of help, if you want more info, please email privately at
MPDon...@yorkmpd.demon.co.uk

All Best and Good luck

william thomas powers

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97
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>If you are looking
>for construction plans, get yourself a copy of Daniel Diehl's book
>"Constructing Medieval Furniture" published by Stackpole Books last year.

>The book is extermely well writen and has been adopted by the SCA as the


>only acceptible book for documentation of period furniture (or so I am
>told).

The SCA does *NOT* "vet" sources so this is not true. As the "only acceptible
book for documentation of period furniture" this is blatently ridiculous!
(less than 20 pieces from a fairly limited location and time span is *NOT*
acceptable as a sole documentation source!)

The book is quite good, (except for the ironworking IMNSHO), but I prefer
"Masterpieces" to it and a slew of auction catalogs, specialized works on
period furniture, museum catalogs, archeology reports, good reproductions
of period art, etc for documentation.

Since it is easily available "Constructing Medieval Furniture" is a good
place to *start*-----but don't stop there!

wilelm the smith who stood up and howled when he read Diehl's discription
on how to construct the iron candle stand-----but would be happy to help
someone who wanted to do it *right*.


Morgan E. Smith

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97
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The chair in Mehn's book is a very nice one, and not at all difficult to
make, assuming you have access to a decent workshop and some basic
carpentry experience.
I know this because, for my sins, I took a course in art college called
"Mixed Media". Project #1 was to construct a piece of furniture, in a
usable size. If it was a dresser, the drawers had to be real, sliding
drawers, if it was a table it had to bear the kind of weight a table
bears. The catch was that we could only use industrial cardboard, a knife,
and a hot-glue gun.
I elected to make a chair almost identical to the one in Mehn's book. It
may have been a little more difficult in some ways than to construct it
out of wood (I had to "build" a sheet of "plywood" to cut the main
supports out of, for example) but overall, my chair
a) supported the weight of a normal, average adult sitter
b) folded up like it was supposed to, with very little trauma over the
short-term
c) was moderately aesthetically pleasing (lotsa fake "carving" and
cardboard stripped down and "woven" for the seat and back, as well as a
cute little cushion with tassels
I will admit that after a few weeks of wear and tear, the chair began to
deteriorate, but in wood it would have been a decent little item and I
wish I'd been able to build myself a real one. I had, at that point, all
the ability of a girl who could knock together a really poor stretcher
frame under duress, and was mildly perturbed by power tools, and
consequently didn't try while I still had access to the woodshop at the
school. Lost opportunities...

Morgan the Unknown


Dick Eney

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97
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In article <60pqcq$d...@access2.digex.net>,

Dick Eney <dick...@access2.digex.net> wrote:
>In article <01bcc61b$a223c0c0$1b16460c@james-->,
>James Mahanna <jmma...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Laura McKinstry <da...@why.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a style of med/ren folding chair I've seen more than once,
>>> authentic, with interlaced curved pieces that fold like the standard "X"
>>> chair, but the design is more ornate, and, I understand, typical of the
>>> travelling furniture of period nobles.
>>
>>I don't know about plans, but I have seen a catalog form which you can
>>order
>>a chair like this. the catalog is from a company called Design Toscano.
>>(cust. svc. # 1 800-525-1233) The chair sells for $1350 +$19.95 (S&H)
>>the company address is:
>>Design Toscano, Inc.
>>17 East Campbell Street
>>Arlington Heights, IL
>>60005
>
>I saw them priced rather cheaper and very well made, at the Maryland
>Renaissance Faire.
>
<snip>

>Dan the Master Joyner
>Daniel J. Mehn
>1820 S. Carrollton Avenue
>New Orleans, LA 70118-2830
>(504) 861-2212 or 8488
>(by appointment only)

Assuming I'm not totally confused, another booth also had evidence of such
chairs being available. The other one was:

Taylor Custom Cabinetry
Timothy B. Taylor
P.O. Box 231
Oldwick, NJ 08858
(908) 439-2943

Dick Eney

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97
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In article <60s69o$u...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,

Morgan E. Smith <mes...@freenet.calgary.ab.ca> wrote:
>The chair in Mehn's book is a very nice one, and not at all difficult to

It's not Mehn's book! It's Diehl's book! There's a major difference
between the two people!

=Tamar (sharing computer with dick...@access.digex.net)

Morgan E. Smith

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97
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Arrgh! Sorry. A moment of senility, or a synapse gone down, take your
pick.
You're right, it is Diehl's book.
I didn't use any "how-to" type book for my chair, BTW, I just looked at
some pictures in an art book...
Morgan the Unknown

6hbn-sec

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97
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Go out, befriend a member or former member of the U.S. Military, then
ask if they will order one of these folding chairs from the AAFES
catalogue. They are $98 + $10 shipping in the 1997 catalog. They come
in a nice mahogony finish with lions heads carved on the ends of the arm
pieces. I have been using mine for 10-15 years both in camp and as home
chairs and they are sturdy and beautiful. I have seen and handled
chairs made in exactly this fashion at the National History Museum in
Nuremburg and the city museum in Bamberg, complete with the lift out
seat back.

Regina (yes the name's passed)


Leslie Sowell

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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James Mahanna wrote:

> > In article <341F3705...@why.net>, Laura McKinstry <da...@why.net>


> wrote:
> >
> > There is a style of med/ren folding chair I've seen more than once,
> > authentic, with interlaced curved pieces that fold like the standard "X"
> > chair, but the design is more ornate, and, I understand, typical of the
> > travelling furniture of period nobles.
> >
> I don't know about plans, but I have seen a catalog form which you can
> order
> a chair like this. the catalog is from a company called Design Toscano.
> (cust. svc. # 1 800-525-1233) The chair sells for $1350 +$19.95 (S&H)
> the company address is:
> Design Toscano, Inc.
> 17 East Campbell Street
> Arlington Heights, IL
> 60005
>

> Hope this helps...

The description sounds like the "Glastonbury" or litany chair. There are
plans available for this folding chair in a book called _Constructing Medieval
Furniture_ by Daniel Diehl. You can find it in Amazon Books (www.amazon.com).


pha...@wny.com

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97
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I have a pattern for the "x" frame chairs. If you send a large 8.5 x
11 envelope with two 32¢ stamps to me I will make you a copy and give
you some basic directions for assembly.
Raimund of the Strait

Ray Lonsdale
1039 97th Street
Niagara Falls, NY 14304

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