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John

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Oct 6, 2008, 7:33:39 PM10/6/08
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Well I wouldn't normally plug this website but you have to admit these
images of nudists swimming with dolphins are unique! I saw a similar
image in N Magazine about 30 years ago -- a lady with snorkel gear and a
dolphin. But it looks like these Natursits at www.russianbare.com have
managed to hook up with a whole gang of dolphins. I wonder what country
that was filmed in?

--John


Anna

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Oct 7, 2008, 1:38:44 PM10/7/08
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Hello, the dolphins were photoshopped in.

Those videos are the modern day equivalent to the magazine scandals of
the past that Zee talks about. They give nudism/naturism a very bad
name.

Anna

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Oct 7, 2008, 1:50:03 PM10/7/08
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On Oct 6, 4:33 pm, "John" <j...@aol.com> wrote:

What is so wrong with these videos? Well watching videos of other
people having a vacation would indeed be boring and certainly you
wouldn't pay the high prices these videos are if it was just some
clothed people's vacation.

Obviously, it's that these people are naked that attracts certain
people to these videos.

Obviously it is targeted to a certain audience and that audience has
some fetish about seeing naked people.

And it is practically concerning that a lot of these videos show
predominately children on them.

I don't know if this is exactly the same topic but here is a cartoon
about some kid taking pictures at some nudist camp without the
permission of the nudists.

The nudists call him a perv.

http://www.webcomicsnation.com/memberimages/20081006permission_copy1.jpg

Which of course he is.

So it does prove that being around naked people can be different than
wanting to take photos of naked people. And also being obsessed with
naked people to the point that you would spend the cost of these
videos indicates you are a perv too.

A lot of it has to do with mindset. Though in art like that of Bill
Hansen his photos have the added quality of actually posing the models
in a way to elicit an erotic response.

John

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Oct 7, 2008, 5:48:20 PM10/7/08
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Hi Anna,

I hear what you're saying but think there is an audience interested in these
videos, who are not perverts. Of course, the value in these films is that
they show nudists. Everyone has first hand experience attending a beach
or picnic. But, a very small minority of people, have ever been around
social nudism.

For those people, which is most people, seeing nudists interact in a
positive way is naturally interesting and hopefully uplifting. Having
seen a couple of these films, I can say that there is nothing in them that
would appeal to perverts. On the other hand, the beautiful scenery and
spirited joyful interaction of the Naturists paint a real and inspiring
picture of Naturism.

I received the dolphin video today. It is not some Photoshop trick. The
film shows these families spending half a day swimming with dolphins.

If you have an opportunity to swim naked with dolphins -- go for it.
However, most of us have to settle for watching it on film -- and I have to
say it is pretty fun to watch! Much more fun than sitting in front of CNN
or watching another cookie-cutter Hollywood movie.

--John

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Zee

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Oct 7, 2008, 7:00:26 PM10/7/08
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On Oct 7, 4:48 pm, "John" <j...@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Anna,
>
> I hear what you're saying but think there is an audience interested in these
> videos, who are not perverts.    Of course, the value in these films is that
> they show nudists.    Everyone has first hand experience attending a beach
> or picnic.   But, a very small minority of people, have ever been around
> social nudism.
>
> For those people, which is most people, seeing nudists interact in a
> positive way is naturally interesting and hopefully uplifting.    Having
> seen a couple of these films, I can say that there is nothing in them that
> would appeal to perverts.     On the other hand, the beautiful scenery and
> spirited joyful interaction of the Naturists paint a real and inspiring
> picture of Naturism.
>
> I received the dolphin video today.    It is not some Photoshop trick.   The
> film shows these families spending half a day swimming with dolphins.
>
> If you have an opportunity to swim naked with dolphins -- go for it.
> However, most of us have to settle for watching it on film --  and I have to
> say it is pretty fun to watch!   Much more fun than sitting in front of CNN
> or watching another cookie-cutter Hollywood movie.
>
> --John
>
> "Anna" <annalidd...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> > in a way to elicit an erotic response.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

well john i have watched these euro vids and they mostly show naked
kids and if you are a pedo they are a turn on or could make a pedo out
of a non pedo......it is nice that you do not see it that way but why
do you not tell us about the vids of clothed folks and did you like
them playing volleyball and dancing and stuff like that....and also
the beauty contest of the kids with their clothes on.....jz

stinso...@hotmail.com

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Oct 7, 2008, 8:06:37 PM10/7/08
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Zee <jon...@webtv.net>
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>well john i have watched these euro vids and they mostly show naked

>kids and ...they... could make a pedo out of a non pedo.....

Yeah, like gay porn can make you turn homo.....BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
What a maroon.

-T.
(lying, ignorant, maroon, at that)

John

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Oct 7, 2008, 11:03:00 PM10/7/08
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I think I explained that in my last post but here goes again. No, I would
not be interested in watching a video of people clothed playing volleyball.
I see that everyday. The point of Naturist videos is that show
Naturists -- not that they show volleyball. The fact that they have a
great time without clothes is what makes it fun and interesting to anyone
who wears clothes everyday.

If you don't like to see Naturist films that's your choice but I think
you're missing out. I can't imagine Naturist videos turning someone into
a pedophile. That really makes no sense at all. The whole idea of the
films is how Naturism is a healthy family oriented activity in some places
for some people.

I find them relaxing and one of the few authentic views of a lifestyle that
all but doesn't exist anywhere outside of a few European enclaves.

Not sure about the beauty contests, seem strange but that may be more of a
French thing?

--Gary

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Zee

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Oct 7, 2008, 10:57:57 PM10/7/08
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On Oct 7, 10:03 pm, "John" <j...@aol.com> wrote:
> I think I explained that in my last post but here goes again.   No, I would
> not be interested in watching a video of people clothed playing volleyball.
> I see that everyday.   The point of Naturist videos is that show
> Naturists -- not that they show volleyball.    The fact that they have a
> great time without clothes is what makes it fun and interesting to anyone
> who wears clothes everyday.
>
> If you don't like to see Naturist films that's your choice but I think
> you're missing out.    I can't imagine Naturist videos turning someone into
> a pedophile.   That really makes no sense at all.   The whole idea of the
> films is how Naturism is a healthy family oriented activity in some places
> for some people.
>
> I find them relaxing and one of the few authentic views of a lifestyle that
> all but doesn't exist anywhere outside of a few European enclaves.
>
> Not sure about the beauty contests, seem strange but that may be more of a
> French thing?
>
> --Gary
>
> "Zee" <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> the beauty contest of the kids with their clothes on.....jz- Hide quoted text -

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well john....i get your drift....you are fascinated with apparent fun
these folks are having while going naked......this is very very very
vague as you must not understand much about human sexuality...i could
understand where you are coming from if you explained your likes and
dislikes and attractions regarding sexuality.....the vids are made by
pedophiles for pedophiles.....but this is foreign to you and have a
hard time understanding and are ignorant of exhibitionism you must not
have a lot of social nudism experience.....were you a couple or a
single as a nudist and what is your interest when you go to a beach or
camp....otherwise what you say is bland and vague...regards....jz

Terry J. Wood

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Oct 8, 2008, 12:09:31 AM10/8/08
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stinso...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote in news:j8une419plbrbpa7n3ar2i9en23pc1ce9k@
4ax.com:

> Yeah, like gay porn can make you turn homo.....BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
> What a maroon.

If that were true, then straight porn would be a "cure" for homosexuality
and therefore straight porn should be shown as often as possible!

Maybe it should be shown in the schools then too! Think of all the
confused kids it would "cure"!

Perhaps a subscription to PLAYBOY should be purchased for every young
person! (Or maybe just a version with the magazine's cartoons).

Terry J. Wood

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Oct 8, 2008, 12:10:40 AM10/8/08
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"John" <jo...@aol.com> wrote in
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> I think I explained that in my last post but here goes again. No, I
> would not be interested in watching a video of people clothed playing
> volleyball. I see that everyday.

D*mn! You sure must like textile volleyball if you watch it everyday!

Dan Abel

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Oct 8, 2008, 12:13:51 AM10/8/08
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In article <j8une419plbrbpa7n...@4ax.com>,
stinso...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:

You forgot some things, like "stupid" and "illiterate".

:-(

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net

Sharon

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Oct 8, 2008, 2:35:53 AM10/8/08
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For those who are arguing about the merit of the russianbare videos, you can
see some without paying anything at www.nudistfun.com The site appears
to be sponsored by russianbare but the images and video are free and no
annoying popups etc. I think it is more or less an advertisement for
russianbare.

Anyone know whatever happened to Tower Productions? I think these
companies do a service since nude beaches and Naturist living is not gaining
ground. These films may be the only proof of the good life for future
generations stuck with only textile beaches. I just hope the prices come
down. The pictures on RussianBare do seem to favor nude children but
then again so do most textile advertisements. If that is just to put a
vibrant cover on the films o.k. but if that's all the films contain, well
then they're missing real Naturism. In real life there are 10 out of
shape older folks for every young person on nude beaches in Europe.

--Sharon S.

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Anna

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Oct 8, 2008, 3:44:20 PM10/8/08
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On Oct 7, 11:35 pm, "Sharon" <sharon...@znet.com> wrote:
> For those who are arguing about the merit of the russianbare videos, you can
> see some without paying anything atwww.nudistfun.com The site appears

> to be sponsored by russianbare but the images and video are free and no
> annoying popups etc. I think it is more or less an advertisement for
> russianbare.

I have seen them. They like to play it too close to the line. They
don't have the people in them do anything obscene but they do
prominently feature under-aged people in them so it is obvious the
customer they are marketing towards.

> Anyone know whatever happened to Tower Productions? I think these
> companies do a service since nude beaches and Naturist living is not gaining
> ground. These films may be the only proof of the good life for future
> generations stuck with only textile beaches.

But most all of these videos are staged so they don't reflect the
actual nudist lifestyle.

> I just hope the prices come
> down.

They won't as perverts will pay lots of money to satisfy their
fetishes and that is who they are marketing to.

>The pictures on RussianBare do seem to favor nude children but
> then again so do most textile advertisements.

You must be watching different advertisements as I see at least an
equal banance of adults to children on advertisements if not more
adults than children.

Regardless, advertisements are 30 seconds. Not 30 minutes to an hour
like these videos. Hey if someone paid the cost of these videos to buy
videos of clothed children playing I would worry about that person
too.


>If that is just to put a
> vibrant cover on the films o.k.

It shows who they are marketing towards. Nudists should not be naïve
to this. They can't afford to be naïve about this,

> but if that's all the films contain, well
> then they're missing real Naturism. In real life there are 10 out of
> shape older folks for every young person on nude beaches in Europe.

Proving again that the sessions are staged, You don't see any old,
unattractive (by the general society standards) people in them do
you? If these videos were really made to portray real nudism/naturism
you would see overweight people, plain people, etc. But instead
everyone in the videos is attractive and you see an all too large
proportion of children. This proves that they aren't filming real
events but instead are staging the events for the purpose of the
photoshoot and they are staging them to appeal to a specific audience.
And that audience is obviously pedophiles. These videos in the long
run hurts nudism/naturism because people begin to think that all
nudism/naturism is about is providing material for pedophiles.

And, for those thinking about getting into nudism that might use these
videos to become informed about what nudism is about (which probably
makes up about 2 percent of their customers) if they do finally decide
to participate in nudist activities they are going to be quite
disappointed indeed.

Anna

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Oct 8, 2008, 3:45:23 PM10/8/08
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On Oct 7, 9:09 pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote in news:j8une419plbrbpa7n3ar2i9en23pc1ce9k@

> 4ax.com:
>
> > Yeah, like gay porn can make you turn homo.....BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
> > What a maroon.
>
> If that were true, then straight porn would be a "cure" for homosexuality
> and therefore straight porn should be shown as often as possible!

Could work.

> Maybe it should be shown in the schools then too! Think of all the
> confused kids it would "cure"!

If it was a class of all gay students I would be all for it.

Anna

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Oct 8, 2008, 4:00:07 PM10/8/08
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On Oct 7, 2:48 pm, "John" <j...@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Anna,
>
> I hear what you're saying but think there is an audience interested in these
> videos, who are not perverts. Of course, the value in these films is that
> they show nudists.

They show staged activity mostly by underage children who may be
nudists or may be forced by their parents to do the videos for the
money. Things are very tight in Eastern Europe and many textiles
while they may be adverse to being nude in a public setting are more
adverse to starvation.

> Everyone has first hand experience attending a beach
> or picnic. But, a very small minority of people, have ever been around
> social nudism.

And these videos don't show social nudism. If anything, someone who
wants to try social nudism will not want to try nudism after watching
these videos because they will feel they don't measure up either in
attractiveness or in other ways to the people in the videos. These
videos show them that nudism isn't for the average person. It's just
for the beautiful people.

> For those people, which is most people, seeing nudists interact in a
> positive way is naturally interesting and hopefully uplifting. Having
> seen a couple of these films, I can say that there is nothing in them that
> would appeal to perverts.

Hello, naked children.

> On the other hand, the beautiful scenery and
> spirited joyful interaction of the Naturists paint a real and inspiring
> picture of Naturism.

An unrealistic picture of nudism. And unless the person feels very
attractive most likely the message they will get is that nudism is for
other people but not for them.


> I received the dolphin video today. It is not some Photoshop trick. The
> film shows these families spending half a day swimming with dolphins.

I didn't see the video. I was commenting on the photo they had on the
web page.


> If you have an opportunity to swim naked with dolphins -- go for it.

Let me know where there is such an opportunity and I am there.

> However, most of us have to settle for watching it on film -- and I have to
> say it is pretty fun to watch!

I actually swam with dolphins (wearing a swimming suit unfortunately).

I got the video of the experience. Watched it twice. I doubt you would
give me $60 for that video would you?

Proving that it has little to do with the dolphins and everything to
do with the nudity (and the attractiveness of the actors).

>Much more fun than sitting in front of CNN
> or watching another cookie-cutter Hollywood movie.
>
> --John

You seem to really get off on these videos. I hope you don't try
nudism for real as you will be quite disappointed.

Zee

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Oct 8, 2008, 4:44:35 PM10/8/08
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Anna...you can clearly note that john refuses to state how and why he
bought this video and who he is...is he single married or pedo....he
is so bland about who he is....it could be goofus...bbp or anyone in
rec nude.....first of all if one of their goodies was offered here in
rec nude it would take me about two to three hours of play because of
stopping and rewind to illustrate that a pedo was holding the camera
and what the pedo sees....yes there is quick camera movements to show
the bored old folks but back to the kids they go teasing with the
camera to show genitals ...of which the kids really are the true
exhibitionist of this process......as long as there is two or three
good sexual scenes it is worth the money to a pedo to buy another
another and another......and yes eastern euro is in dire need of money
and it could be that these are folks that have shares in the receipts
from sales....this is all unknown and of course these nudist folks are
usually in remote sections of woods or areas that is private enough
to shoot these vids.....sometime in rented facilities.....but always
know that a pedo is holding the camera or told what scenes to capture
in the vids...case closed...jz

Casa Blanca Hot Spring

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Oct 15, 2008, 10:56:54 PM10/15/08
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Hi John,

Yes, I remember that piece too, but the magazine was first published 28 years ago in 1980,
beginning as CLOTHED WITH THE SUN, then becoming NUDE & NATURAL c. 1990.

Naturally Nude,
B ill


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Neosapienis

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Does the website's title give you a clue?

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Mobile: (0437) 428-859

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Anna

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On Feb 8, 12:19 pm, "Neosapienis" <dariowest...@nospambigpond.com>
wrote:

> Does the website's title give you a clue?
>
> --
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dario Western
>
> Home: (07) 3267-0099
> Mobile: (0437) 428-859
>
> Web Page:http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"John" <j...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:48ea91cd$0$31785$882e...@news.ThunderNews.com...
>
> > Well I wouldn't normally plug this website but you have to admit these
> > images of nudists swimming with dolphins are unique! I saw a similar
> > image in N Magazine about 30 years ago -- a lady with snorkel gear and a
> > dolphin. But it looks like these Natursits atwww.russianbare.comhave
> > managed to hook up with a whole gang of dolphins. I wonder what country
> > that was filmed in?
>
> > --John

The problem I have is yeah, I as a woman can watch a video of pre-teen
girls dancing nude around a campfire in the snow and the only thing
that comes to mind is "I wonder how that feels", or "I should try that
someday".

I can watch the girls in the Banya merely to see the traditions of the
Russian Sauna (which seems very similar to the Finnish sauna
traditions). I can be interested in that video solely for that reason
and think, it would be fun to have an authenic Russian or Finnish
sauna someday.

But I wouldn't pay 60 dollars to do that.

And people who would, well it would be naivety at it worse not to
understand why they are interested in those videos.

Zee

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On Feb 9, 12:18 pm, Anna <annalidd...@lycos.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 12:19 pm, "Neosapienis" <dariowest...@nospambigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Does the website's title give you a clue?
>
> > --
>
> > Best wishes,
>
> > Dario Western
>
> > Home: (07) 3267-0099
> > Mobile: (0437) 428-859
>
> > Web Page:http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------"John" <j...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:48ea91cd$0$31785$882e...@news.ThunderNews.com...
>
> > > Well I wouldn't normally plug this website but you have to admit these
> > > images of nudists swimming with dolphins are unique!     I saw a similar
> > > image in N Magazine about 30 years ago -- a lady with snorkel gear and a
> > > dolphin.    But it looks like these Natursits atwww.russianbare.comhave
> > > managed to hook up with a whole gang of dolphins.    I wonder what country
> > > that was filmed in?
>
> > > --John
>
> The problem I have is yeah, I as a woman can watch a video of pre-teen
> girls dancing nude around a campfire in the snow and the only thing
> that comes to mind is "I wonder how that feels", or "I should try that
> someday".
>
> I can watch the girls in the Banya merely to see the traditions of the
> Russian Sauna (which seems very similar to the Finnish sauna
> traditions). I can be interested in that video solely for that reason
> and think, it would be fun to have an authenic Russian or Finnish
> sauna someday.
>
> But I wouldn't pay 60 dollars to do that.
>
> And people who would, well it would be naivety at it worse not to
> understand why they are interested in those videos.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

to be turned on in the game of exhibitionism means the juices are
flowing and that allows one to not feel the cold....jz

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