House Ethics finds GOP leaders negligent in Foley scandal
Terry J. Wood
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16107115/
Investigations are on going. Think they'll *EVER* arrest him? Or has he
"suffered enough"?
moeriley
Maybe since Bill Martin stated that he has forgiven Foley and is
praying for him, Bill will ask Foley to be a board member of his
"Christian" Naturist Corporations as a way to minister to him. Bill to
ministers to pedophiles and has stated so. Perhaps Foley could be the
director of Bill Martin's Naturist Youth Camp, whereever Bill decides
to open it - Florida? Nope - South Carolina? - Nope - Europe - maybe.
Very perplexing connection between Martin and Foley.
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
Hi Terry,
"Terry J. Wood" <Terry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98939E3381F...@216.168.3.30...
> See:
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16107115/
>
> Investigations are on going. Think they'll *EVER* arrest him?
He should be arrested for soliciting sex from a minor over the internet.
Bill
Terry J. Wood
news:pE2hh.317$w91...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> He should be arrested for soliciting sex from a minor over the internet.
>
Gee, who wrote those laws? :-)
cyndiann
mthom...@tampabay.rr.com
cyndiann wrote:
>
> He [the alleged victim] wasn't under legal age of consent.
>
True ........ but none the less ,a person who is in a postion to
exercise power and control over another is held to a higher standard of
conduct. A U.S. Congresssman is held to the highest standard possible.
Mark Foleys methods and manners of trolling lesser government employees
for self sexual gratification is utterly reprehensible.
Mark Foley is to politics what 'Anna' and 'Zee' are to rec.nude and all
of naturism.
Mark Foley deserves the public berating, loss of position and more.
cyndiann
Oh, I agree he's a turd. What I was addressing was the law.
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BBp
sexual harassment in a place of employment. If the party that was
harassed wants to press charges he can and Foley be arrested, but if it
was me I'd go with a civil suit as the crime is not a high crime and
therefore he just get a slap on the wrists...
BBp
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
One report I read stated that one of the youths was 16 years old and AFAIK,
that's under the legal age of consent.
Bill
Dan Abel
"Casa Blanca Hot Spring" <CasaBlanc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
The age of consent varies in the US according to state. In DC, it is 16.
Anna
I just want to know if you have gloated enough?
We made the Republicans pay for this scandal. We stayed home and they
lost power. Yet Barney Frank, Bobby Byrd, and Teddy Kennedy are still
in power on your side of the fence.
So you really aren't in any position to criticize until you start
holding your people accountable.
But that is never going to happen is it.
Liberals aren't merely wrong - they are evil.
Terry J. Wood
ppp5025.per.dsl.connect.net.au:
> The age of consent varies in the US according to state. In DC, it is 16.
Did you know that Republican congressmen don't use book marks? They just
bend the pages over.
Terry "Sorry, couldn't resist" Wood
Terry J. Wood
news:1166556986.4...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> I just want to know if you have gloated enough?
I just want to know what nudist camps or restorts you've attended.
Anna
Mark Foley has destroyed the Republican Party.
We held the GOP accountable for what he did. We stayed home. We didn't
vote for them and as a result they lost their power in the House of
Representatives.
Now when are you going to hold your Democrats accountable for their
scandals?
Congressman BARNEY FRANK, incoming chairman of the House Committee on
Financial Services, you know of him?
He was pimping with his friend Steve Gobie.
When Republicans are caught up in scandals, their constituency makes
them pay for it.
Not true with the Democrats. Democratic Politicians can get into
scandals without it effecting their political power.
Like I said, liberals are not merely wrong - they are evil.
So fuck-off with your talk about Foley. He was always a RINO anyway and
the Republicans paid a big price for "keeping him inside the tent".
Perhaps in the future the Republican leadership will be more careful
with who they decide to support.
cyndiann
wrote:
> Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote in
> news:dabel-7B6136.09385319122006@cor8-
> ppp5025.per.dsl.connect.net.au:
>
>> The age of consent varies in the US according to state. In DC, it is
>> 16.
>
> Did you know that Republican congressmen don't use book marks? They just
> bend the pages over.
>
Now THAT was funny!
cyndiann
<CasaBlanc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> One report I read stated that one of the youths was 16 years old and
> AFAIK,
> that's under the legal age of consent.
>
Which goes to show what you know.
Anna
>From what I understand Foley didn't have sex with the pages. He did say
inappropriate things to them, but he didn't have sex with them
Terry J. Wood
@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>
> Terry J. Wood wrote:
>> "Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in
>> news:1166556986.4...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > I just want to know if you have gloated enough?
>>
>> I just want to know what nudist camps or resorts you've attended.
>
> Mark Foley has destroyed the Republican Party.
What nudists camps or resorts have you attended, "Anna"? Let's hear about
your nudist credentials. Once we've confirmed that you're a nudist you can
tell us all about your pal Mark Foley and what he means to naturism.
Terry J. Wood
news:1166569269.1...@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
>> > Did you know that Republican congressmen don't use book marks?
>> > They just bend the pages over.
>> Now THAT was funny!
>>From what I understand Foley didn't have sex with the pages. He did
>>say
> inappropriate things to them, but he didn't have sex with them
He got turned away at the pages dorm, late at night. He was just there to
lend a "helping hand". The poor pages needed tucked in at night and Foley
was just the man for the "job".
Richard C.
news:1166567075.4...@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
So, how does this answer the question of what nudis parks you have attended?
BBp
home/apartment/tent or whatever.. he may also have been to the bedroom
resort but the jury is still out on that..
BBp
BBp
or whom has done what politically.. Also your post shows you are
totally anti gays.. Barney Frank is and always has been openly gay,
even before he was elected congressmen... It has not affected his
popularity one iota and he has done a superb job in his present
position..
You apparently have no idea as to what his accomplishments are.. You
are a bigot..
BBp..
Terry J. Wood
news:1166633406....@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com:
> He has attended the Jeffanna bathtub/shower nudist resort in his
> home/apartment/tent or whatever.. he may also have been to the bedroom
> resort but the jury is still out on that..
>
Why JeffieAnne is here in rec.nude, a group for NUDISTS, is beyond me. But
rec.nude seems to attract a number of non-nudists who feel the need to tell
us what to do or to just make up stories about us. I not taking about
trolls. I know why they're here. (We kicked troll-bois butts this past
summer, but that's another tale). No, rec.nude attracts people who WISH
they could be nudists, but for some reason can't BARE the thought of
actually trying naturism.
I begin to suspect that they're all just jealous of the true freedom
naturism brings. What's sad is that there's no reason to be jealous.
Anyone can be a nudist. The power comes from within.
Terry
Terry J. Wood
48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com:
>.Barney Frank is and always has been openly gay,
> even before he was elected congressmen... It has not affected his
> popularity one iota and he has done a superb job in his present
> position..
Barney Frank doesn't go around pretending to "protect the children" while
trying to get into their pants the way Republican Mark Foley does. Not
only is Foley a pervert, he's a hipocrite. I'd take a dozen Barney Franks
over a Mark Foley any day.
But my question was really all about what nudist venues Anna has attended.
I don't know why "she" keeps wanting to talk about Mark Foley. Maybe she
hopes I'll forget my question?
Anna
Well, again it didn't happen. I am not saying what he did was right. Of
course not. And he paid for it. Heck the whole Republican party paid
for it.
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
> "Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in news:1166567075.469121.160450
> @n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>
> >
> > Terry J. Wood wrote:
> >> "Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in
> >> news:1166556986.4...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > I just want to know if you have gloated enough?
> >>
> >> I just want to know what nudist camps or resorts you've attended.
> >
> > Mark Foley has destroyed the Republican Party.
>
> What nudists camps or resorts have you attended, "Anna"? Let's hear about
> your nudist credentials. Once we've confirmed that you're a nudist you can
> tell us all about your pal Mark Foley and what he means to naturism.
Mark Foley was a Liberal. He used opposition to nudism as a cynical way
to get conservatives to support him and overlook his very liberal
voting record (and the rumors about his perversions). It didn't work
though as well as he had hoped as he lost the Republican nomination to
the Senate.
I hate the man. I hate everything about him. And I hope he rots in hell.
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
>> I begin to suspect that they're all just jealous of the true freedom
> naturism brings. What's sad is that there's no reason to be jealous.
> Anyone can be a nudist. The power comes from within.
>
>
> Terry
No, not everyone can be a nudist. Some people don't have the right
attitude. They can't stand looking at fat people, people who don't meet
their ideal of what a body should look like. And for the ones they do
feel meets their ideal for body type, they are so attracted to them
they have erections.
If they want to have such an attitude, find, whatever. Just don't go to
nudist venues.
Now there is another question about some people that is one of
interest. Are there some people who physically can't become nudists. Is
there something in their genes that make them more sexually minded than
the average person? Of course if there is can such a genetic
predisposition be overcome through mental discipline? If it can't then
what about homosexuality and pedophile? Are they slaves to their genes
or do they still have free will?
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
> Barney Frank doesn't go around pretending to "protect the children" while
> trying to get into their pants the way Republican Mark Foley does. Not
> only is Foley a pervert, he's a hipocrite. I'd take a dozen Barney Franks
> over a Mark Foley any day.
That raises an interesting question. Because it says that only people
who are moral, well at least has a moral standard that they try (though
sometimes fail) to uphold.
It is hard for Liberals to get into scandals because people know what a
bunch of sleazoids they are and they freely admit to the world what
they are.
I would take a dozen of Mark Foley's over a Barney Frank because as
least they are trying to uphold good standards. Yeah they in the end
fail misably in doing that but at least they recognize there is a moral
standard that should be upheld whereas Barney Frank freely goes about
promoting immorality.
Terry J. Wood
news:1166636419.7...@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>>> He got turned away at the pages dorm, late at night. He was just
>> there to lend a "helping hand". The poor pages needed tucked in at
>> night and Foley was just the man for the "job".
> Well, again it didn't happen. I am not saying what he did was right.
> Of course not. And he paid for it. Heck the whole Republican party
> paid for it.
Yeah, "it didn't happen", that's why he resigned and got out of Dodge (and
into "rehab") -- because it DIDN'T HAPPEN. Yeah, that makes sense.
The Republican's didn't pay for it. The got their *sses handed to them
because of their failure to deal with Bin Laden and the total falsehood of
Iraq. Foley's scandal cost them nothing and they've taken ZERO
responsibility for it. They just want it and him to go away and be
forgotten. All that will do is make it happen again. These people
shouldn't be leading the country with that attitude. The voters let them
know this.
But more importantly, "Anna", what are YOU doing here in rec.nude? If
you're a nudist, tell us all about it. If you're not a nudist, tell us why
you're so interested in rec.nude. While Mark Foley is a legitimate topic
of rec.nude because of his "War on Nudists" that he waged, I really don't
want to fill the group with non-nudist issues. Instead let's chat about
naturism. We can start with your trip reports. How about it?
Terry J. Wood
73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com:
> No, not everyone can be a nudist.
How about you Anna? Can YOU be a nudist? Are you a NUDIST?
Terry J. Wood
news:1166637358.7...@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
> That raises an interesting question.
It sure does! What nudist venues have you attended?
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
> "Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in
> news:1166636419.7...@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
> because of their failure to deal with Bin Laden and the total falsehood of
> Iraq. Foley's scandal cost them nothing and they've taken ZERO
> responsibility for it.
It cost them everything. Their base stayed home and they lost because
of it.
This lost had everything to do with Foley
But Foley will not be a factor in 2008.
But keep believing what you believe about the election. Then you will
be caught off guard when Republicans win.
Terry J. Wood
news:1166636594.2...@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> I hate the man. I hate everything about him. And I hope he rots in
> hell.
That's not very Christian. So, what nudist camps have you visited?
Terry J. Wood
news:1166637804.0...@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com:
> But keep believing what you believe about the election. Then you will
> be caught off guard when Republicans win.
So what nudist camps do you attend?
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
> "Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in
> news:1166637358.7...@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> > That raises an interesting question.
The interesting question is about how what you are saying is that
publically immoral people can never get into scandals since they freely
admit what they are.
Whereas people who try to uphold moral standards (at least publicly)
are very vulnerable to scandals since sometimes even if someone
believes in a standard he or she might fail to live up to it.
Look if we are to have standards people are going to sometimes fail to
live up to the standard. Your solution seems to be to have no standards.
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
> "Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in
> news:1166636594.2...@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> > I hate the man. I hate everything about him. And I hope he rots in
> > hell.
>
> That's not very Christian.
Well maybe I am not a very good Christian.
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
>> But more importantly, "Anna", what are YOU doing here in rec.nude? If
> you're a nudist, tell us all about it. If you're not a nudist, tell us why
> you're so interested in rec.nude. While Mark Foley is a legitimate topic
> of rec.nude because of his "War on Nudists" that he waged, I really don't
> want to fill the group with non-nudist issues. Instead let's chat about
> naturism.
You are the one who started in with Foley even when the issue has been
dealt with. Foley was shown to be the fraud he was and the Republicans
lost power because of it.
You can't imagine how much I hate Mark Foley and people like him within
the Republican party. They destroy the Republican Party. They destroy
America.
I hate the RINOS in some ways even more than the more open liberals.
Perhaps it is like what you say about hypocrites who say one thing and
do the other. Or perhaps it is because it is only someone who pretends
to be your friend that can stab you in the back. In any regard, I have
devoted my life to fighting RINOS. They are the enemy within the
Republican party and until the Republican party removes them from
positions of influence, there is little chance of getting our country
back.
Terry J. Wood
79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>> > That raises an interesting question.
>
> The interesting question is about how what you are saying is that
> publically immoral people can never get into scandals since they freely
> admit what they are.
The interesting thing is that you won't answer my questions about your
participation in naturism. What's the matter "Anna"? Surely you can
answer a simple question such as: "Are you a nudist?" If you're not, why
do you bother posting here?
If it's standards you want to talk about, let's start with yours.
Terry J. Wood
79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
How good of a nudist are you?
Anna
Terry J. Wood wrote:
> "Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in
> news:1166636594.2...@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> > I hate the man. I hate everything about him. And I hope he rots in
> > hell.
>
> That's not very Christian.
The Christian response would be to have pity on the man and empathize
with what he is going through, grieve for his suffering, and pray for
him in his time of difficulty and hope that he can find forgiveness and
redemption.
But you would accuse someone with that attitude of justifying what he
did which would clearly not be the case.
No, I admit that I don't have a very Christian attitude about Mark
Foley. But then again, neither do you.
Terry J. Wood
news:1166639027.6...@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
>
> Terry J. Wood wrote:
>>> But more importantly, "Anna", what are YOU doing here in rec.nude?
>>> If
>> you're a nudist, tell us all about it. If you're not a nudist, tell
>> us why you're so interested in rec.nude. While Mark Foley is a
>> legitimate topic of rec.nude because of his "War on Nudists" that he
>> waged, I really don't want to fill the group with non-nudist issues.
>> Instead let's chat about naturism.
>
> You are the one who started in with Foley even when the issue has been
> dealt with.
So what nudist camps have you visited? What ARE you doing in rec.nude?
Terry J. Wood
@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> No, I admit that I don't have a very Christian attitude about Mark
> Foley. But then again, neither do you.
So what nudist camps, resorts or gatherings have you been to? Are you a
nudist? What do you think you know about naturism?
Anna
BBp wrote:
> Barney Frank is and always has been openly gay,
> even before he was elected congressmen... It has not affected his
> popularity one iota and he has done a superb job in his present
> position..
> You apparently have no idea as to what his accomplishments are..
So, you are saying because he is open about being a scumbag it is ok.
So, Mark Foley, his crime wasn't what he did to the pages but instead
was not being a Democrat and open about his homosexuality. If he was
then he could send inappropriate messages to pages and it would be ok.
Barney Frank, yeah, I know about his "accomplishments". He has been
very good at destroying America.
Anna
Also the Christian response would be that we are all sinners. Mark
Foley sinned in what he did with those pages and I have sinned in how I
feel about him. So the Christian response is that since we are all
sinners, that sin is within our nature even those who are leaders, the
need to turn to Him is ever more critical. To some this might seem as
justifying or excusing what the sinner did, but instead it is something
different. It is what Christians call hating the sin but loving the
sinner.
Terry J. Wood
@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
> Barney Frank, yeah, I know about his "accomplishments". He has been
> very good at destroying America.
So what are your accomplishments regarding naturism?
Terry J. Wood
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Also the Christian response would be that we are all sinners.
Is it a sin to lie? Have you lied ... about naturism?
Anna
Actually no, I don't feel it is always a sin to lie.
It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that it is a sin to lie.
EXCEPT for one type of lie.
That lie is to purposing accuse someone of commiting a crime when that
person didn't do it.
That is known as "bearing false witness"
It is commandment 8 of the 10 comandments.
But as for other types of lying, they are not forbidden by the Bible.
Terry J. Wood
73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com:
>> Is it a sin to lie? Have you lied ... about naturism?
> Actually no, I don't feel it is always a sin to lie.
That explains a lot.
BBp
wont answer question as to what nudists venture/s you've attended.. er?
Have you attended any of the TNS get-togethers? Or some other nudist
event?.. How about a public skinny dipping adventure, ever been to one?
Have you ever been naked outside of your living quarters at anytime in
your life? er... Your a lying living make believer is all you are, I
seriously doubt that you have ever been a nudist or skinny dipper event
in your life.. Your a wanna be but you dont have the nerve to be
anything but a wanna be.. yer a smuck...
BBp
BBp
nudists events, resorts, skinny dipping holes that you've
attended/visited? Why do you constantly avoid nudist discussions and
only write about political events in a nudist atmosphere? Why are you
here? Do you get your jollies of being with nudist on line? Are you a
pedophile attempting to hide among nudists hoping not to be recognized?
Why not anser Terrys question/s are you chicken?
BBp
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
Dear Dan,
"Dan Abel" <da...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dabel-7B6136....@cor8-ppp5025.per.dsl.connect.net.au...
> In article <tyJhh.1155$X72...@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Casa Blanca Hot Spring" <CasaBlanc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> One report I read stated that one of the youths was 16 years old and
>> AFAIK,
>> that's under the legal age of consent.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> >> He should be arrested for soliciting sex from a minor over the
>> >> internet.
>> >
>> > He wasn't under legal age of consent.
>
> The age of consent varies in the US according to state. In DC, it is 16.
> http://www.actwin.com/eatonohio/gay/consent.htm
Interesting. How convenient.
BTW, I think that age for consent makes far more sense than 18.
Bill
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@!@!!@!~~!~~!~~~@ @@@@!!!!!!!
"Terry J. Wood" <Terry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns989E94D61B6...@216.168.3.30...
> Did you know that Republican congressmen don't use book marks? They just
> bend the pages over.
>
> Terry "Sorry, couldn't resist" Wood
Terry J. Wood
news:1166720845.0...@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
> How is it you answered questions pertaining to political events but
> wont answer question as to what nudists venture/s you've attended..
Maybe she has a naturism content filter in her newsreader.
Rich
>> Did you know that Republican congressmen don't use book marks? They just
>> bend the pages over.
>>
> Now THAT was funny!
But very, very old. Without the reference to Republicans it started
with the problems of the late Gerry Studds in the 1983 Congressional
page sex scandal. Studds romp with a page went back to 1973. Rep. Dan
Crane was also part of the censure process. Crane left Congress.
Studds married the former page, Dean Hara, in 2004. Studds died this
yesr. Studds was re-elected to the House six more times after the 1983
censure.
It proves everything old is new, again.
Rich