Coed Locker Rooms
RazzleDzl
rooms. This makes sense because the FKK pools are nude swim pools that are
coed. Besides Europe and Germany are there any known coed locker room
facilities in the US? Maybe at some independent gyms there are coed locker
room and shower facilities? If it can be done in Germany why not the United
States?
Thanks,
Micky Mau
Kepytan
culture. From what I have learned from not only reading this group but from
knowledge of the world in general.
For the most parts, I think that our culture is still too closed minded to
accept any concept such as a coed locker room.
kepytan
Karl
few clubs and they had coed bathrooms.
-karl-
RazzleDzl
>to get away from Europe for a minute, while I was in South Korea I went to a
>few clubs and they had coed bathrooms.
I think in NYC they have coed restrooms in the night clubs but I'm not certain.
Kent
: I think in NYC they have coed restrooms in the night clubs but I'm not
: certain.
Yes, but there's a pretty big difference in coed REST ROOMS (where there
are usually stalls) and coed LOCKER ROOMS where people walk around naked.
Kent
Kepytan
"Cheef" <ch...@cheef.com> wrote........<snip>........
> Every nude swim I've been to, the lockers have been coed.
not to be one to cast a shadow on what is being said, but there is one
common thing that keeps reappearing within this thread.. whenever anyone
posts that they have seen coed locker rooms or similar, its always noted at
a clothing optional facility or recreation.. besides the occasional mention
of bathroom sharing in busy metropolitan dance clubs..
havent seen anyone post that they were at the local store or similar to find
the sharing taking place.. for the most parts the whole of this country are
closed minded to anything different that is being fed to them via corporate
and congressional america..
think that for the time being coed locker rooms as well as a clothing
optional community are just pipe dreams.. or the urban legends told of
within select circles..
kepytan
Gymno
"Kepytan" <kepyte...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> I think that our culture is still too closed minded to
> accept any concept such as a coed locker room.
And it isn't going to change anytime in the next decade or so. Think of it,
kids in school are too modest to shower with their own gender, let alone be
in front or the opposite gender.
Cheef
Every nude swim I've been to, the lockers have been coed.
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James M. Fitzwilliam
ch...@cheef.com (Cheef) wrote:
> Every nude swim I've been to, the lockers have been coed.
On somewhat a tangent from nudism per se, when my church choir went on a
concert tour of eastern Germany in the summer of 1998, we were hosted
(put up in houses, assisted with facilities) by a German church choir.
One of the cultural differences, Europe vs. USA, that our hosts pointed
out to us was: "It never occurred to us that you would need TWO rooms to
change in [before performances]. We always just change all in one room."
Makes sense to me! (:
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>
> common thing that keeps reappearing within this thread.. whenever anyone
> posts that they have seen coed locker rooms or similar, its always noted
at
> a clothing optional facility or recreation.. besides the occasional
mention
> of bathroom sharing in busy metropolitan dance clubs..
> havent seen anyone post that they were at the local store or similar to
find
> the sharing taking place.. for the most parts the whole of this country
are
> closed minded to anything different that is being fed to them via
corporate
> and congressional america..
> think that for the time being coed locker rooms as well as a clothing
> optional community are just pipe dreams.. or the urban legends told of
> within select circles..
>
> kepytan
>
>
You are correct. If men weren't such jerks, pervs, voyeurs, rapists, etc.,
it might
be easier to convince the public that coed lockers, etc., would be feasible.
Face it. They are NOT feasible, except at private nudist clubs that enforce
a
high standard of conduct.
RazzleDzl
>are usually stalls) and coed LOCKER ROOMS where people walk around naked.
>
You are totally right. I don't think that there are any non-nudist clubs that
have coed locker room/shower rooms.
Mike J Oropeza
If a club had mixed sex showers or locker room, they'd probably have a
mixed sex pool, spa or sauna. If any of these areas existed in a US
club, clothing would likely be optional in other areas of the
establishment, too. Their patrons would need to be comfortable with
nudity.
--
Mike J Oropeza
Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad ~{';'}~
heards
The men and women show as little or as much as they want (some walk
around naked, some put their towel on and off inside their shower
stall). It works well.
Steve
On 24 Aug 2000 13:59:06 GMT, razz...@aol.com (RazzleDzl) wrote:
>>Yes, but there's a pretty big difference in coed REST ROOMS (where there
>>are usually stalls) and coed LOCKER ROOMS where people walk around naked.
>>
>
>You are totally right. I don't think that there are any non-nudist clubs that
>have coed locker room/shower rooms.
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"heards" <hea...@home.com> wrote in message
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> The University of Toronto has coed bathrooms in their dorms on campus.
> The men and women show as little or as much as they want (some walk
> around naked, some put their towel on and off inside their shower
> stall). It works well.
>
Okay. Now how many of those who "walk around naked" are men, how many are
women,
and (if you know) how many are gay?
Goodby Kodak
the TV cop shows show that once in a while.
Gymno wrote:
>
> "Kepytan" <kepyte...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Q5Io5.2648$HW2....@news1.mco...
> > I think that our culture is still too closed minded to
> > accept any concept such as a coed locker room.
>
> And it isn't going to change anytime in the next decade or so. Think of it,
> kids in school are too modest to shower with their own gender, let alone be
> in front or the opposite gender.
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in the United States." -Noah Webster, An Examination into the
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to the Constitution of the United States (P. Lord, 1888).
Dan Abel
<nudist...@hotmail.killspam.com> wrote:
> Okay. Now how many of those who "walk around naked" are men, how many are
> women,
> and (if you know) how many are gay?
And how many are vegetarians? How many are Catholics? Most importantly,
how many are pudding tossers?
:-)
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"James M. Fitzwilliam" <fitzw...@vassar.edu> wrote:
> One of the cultural differences, Europe vs. USA, that our hosts
pointed
> out to us was: "It never occurred to us that you would need TWO rooms
to
> change in [before performances]. We always just change all in one
room."
I can accept the cultural requirement for gender-segregated dressing
rooms, but the whole concept of gender-segregated bathrooms is
incomprehensible to me. People don't expect it in houses, so it makes
no sense to expect it in public places. It is an absurdly inefficient
waste of resources to have separate bathrooms, expecially for small
businesses where one bathroom is sufficient to meet the demand. I like
the signs on the two (single-occupant) bathrooms I saw at a restaurant
in Ashland, Oregon: "People" and "Other People".
Wayne Estes
Mundelein, IL, USA
landmark
"RazzleDzl" <razz...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> You know how people make a big deal if there is a coed restroom? Well I
don't
> think it's a big deal myself because if men use the urinal and don't flash
> their willy to the women then what is the problem? Then the stalls have
doors
> so it's not like men or women are going to be seen by each other on the
toilet.
> I really don't think coed restrooms are bad.
>
> I think what is worse is same gender restrooms that don't have doors on
the
> toilets. I mean I don't care if it's a coed or same gender restroom I
want
> doors on the stalls. Most restrooms I've used have had doors on the
stalls but
> some don't and fortunately I didn't have to use the toilet. I don't know
what
> the planners of these restrooms are thinking when they don't put doors on
the
> stalls.
>
> Actually at the Universal Ampetheatre the women's restroom has a line out
the
> door so sometimes between bands in concerts the women go in the mens
restrooms.
> They don't care because there are doors on the stalls. I've been in the
men's
> room when women would walk in and tell everyone they are sorry to enter
the
> mens room but they gotta use the toilet badly. I don't mind if women
use the
> men's room because like they say when you have to go you have to go. I
don't
> know if the other men mind though if the women are in there. I do believe
> though that if a man had to use the woman's room because the men's room
was
> full and he couldn't wait then the man would be in trouble and the women
would
> hate it.
>
> I ask my female friends and they never have been in a restroom without
doors on
> the stalls but some mens restrooms don't have doors on the stalls. Now
why is
> that? Where is the justice. Why do some mens rooms not have stall doors
but
> womens rooms always do? We might enjoy nude recreaction and don't need
privacy
> when it comes to swimming, tanning, showering nude but I think most here,
men
> and women want privacy when using the toilet.
>
> Can we all agree that doorless toilet stalls are far less than coed
restrooms?
>
>
> Mickey Mau
When I was in basic training for the army, there were no doors, no
partitions, just toilets... That was weird when I first went in there....
Jack Page
> "RazzleDzl" <razz...@aol.com> wrote
> > Actually at the Universal Ampetheatre the women's restroom has a line out
> the
> > door so sometimes between bands in concerts the women go in the mens
> restrooms.
> > They don't care because there are doors on the stalls. I've been in the
> men's
> > room when women would walk in and tell everyone they are sorry to enter
> the
> > mens room but they gotta use the toilet badly. I don't mind if women
> use the
> > men's room because like they say when you have to go you have to go.
I've also had that experience at a football game where a couple women barged
into the men's room.
Jack Page
RazzleDzl
>the TV cop shows show that once in a while.
If you mean a TV cop show called NYPD Blue then in that series I think that
only the same gender can occupy it at one time. For example, if Sipowitz needs
to change clothes he'll make sure that no women are in their first then go in.
He might knock on the door or ask a female officer to check if the cost is
clear. I don't think I ever recall an episode when both men and women were in
the locker room changing. So it is coed but mixed company aren't in their at
the same time. Only coed in the respect that both get to use it but at diff
times.
Now if in real life there are precincts that have coed locker rooms I don't
know how they use it. Is it that both genders can use it but only at separate
times or do they use the locker room and shower at the same time?
RazzleDzl
think it's a big deal myself because if men use the urinal and don't flash
their willy to the women then what is the problem? Then the stalls have doors
so it's not like men or women are going to be seen by each other on the toilet.
I really don't think coed restrooms are bad.
I think what is worse is same gender restrooms that don't have doors on the
toilets. I mean I don't care if it's a coed or same gender restroom I want
doors on the stalls. Most restrooms I've used have had doors on the stalls but
some don't and fortunately I didn't have to use the toilet. I don't know what
the planners of these restrooms are thinking when they don't put doors on the
stalls.
Actually at the Universal Ampetheatre the women's restroom has a line out the
door so sometimes between bands in concerts the women go in the mens restrooms.
They don't care because there are doors on the stalls. I've been in the men's
room when women would walk in and tell everyone they are sorry to enter the
mens room but they gotta use the toilet badly. I don't mind if women use the
men's room because like they say when you have to go you have to go. I don't
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Kepytan <kepyte...@bellsouth.net> wrote in article
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>
> "Cheef" <ch...@cheef.com> wrote........<snip>........
> > Every nude swim I've been to, the lockers have been coed.
>
> not to be one to cast a shadow on what is being said, but there is one
> common thing that keeps reappearing within this thread.. whenever anyone
> posts that they have seen coed locker rooms or similar, its always noted
at
> a clothing optional facility or recreation.. besides the occasional
mention
> of bathroom sharing in busy metropolitan dance clubs..
There are coed changing rooms and coed nude saunas at quite a few retreat
centers that are decidedly not naturist establishments. Too bad there
aren't more.
C&B
al...@rev.net
<nudist...@hotmail.killspam.com> wrote:
>You are correct. If men weren't such jerks, pervs, voyeurs, rapists, etc.,
>it might
>be easier to convince the public that coed lockers, etc., would be feasible.
What's the solution? Turn women into jerks, pervs, voyeurs, rapists, etc.?
What about the ones who already are?
-- J. Byrd <http://www.rev.net/people/aloe/skinnydip>
al...@rev.net
wrote:
>I think that the locker rooms in europe work because of the change in the
>culture.
When did European culture change?
Uwe N
In Germany there are coed locker rooms in sauna, bacause the coed sauna
is common. FKK (Nudist)-pools are not common outside of nudist resorts.
So it means coed locker rooms are not common in Germany, but the
beaches are much more permissive then in the USA.
Greetings from Germany
Uwe
Cheef
>Okay. Now how many of those who "walk around naked" are men, how many are
>women,
>and (if you know) how many are gay?
And how many of the gay men are fat and worth a million dollars?
heards
the second month most men and women do. As for sexuality, it is a
bathroom so people are not having sex, but I would assume that some of
those women could be lesbian and some of the men could be gay.
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:31:37 -0400, "nudistfamily"
<nudist...@hotmail.killspam.com> wrote:
>
>"heards" <hea...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:dvraqscg8th0mun5k...@4ax.com...
>> The University of Toronto has coed bathrooms in their dorms on campus.
>> The men and women show as little or as much as they want (some walk
>> around naked, some put their towel on and off inside their shower
>> stall). It works well.
>>
>
>Okay. Now how many of those who "walk around naked" are men, how many are
>women,
>and (if you know) how many are gay?
>
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BTW, what do you call someone who lives in Illinois? Serious question,
though I'm sure there are jokes that might be fun to read.
ShanLung
ksmit...@aol.commando (Karl) wrote:
> to get away from Europe for a minute, while I was in South Korea I went to a
> few clubs and they had coed bathrooms.
>
>
>
I am working and living in South Korea now. I am new and have yet to learn
to converse in korean.
Where are those clubs and are they open to foreigners?
Gymno
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Bob
Goodby Kodak wrote:
> Some big city police precincts have co-ed locker rooms. Even some of
> the TV cop shows show that once in a while.
>
Lcpofamerica
>Some mens restrooms don't have doors on the stalls. Now why is that?
They do this a lot in public restrooms on the west coast, especially in
Washington state. This is to cut down on homosexual activity in the restrooms.
The lack of privacy makes it harder for the homosexuals to engage in sexual
liaisons without doors on the stalls.
Unfortunately, the rest of us suffer by not having any privacy when taking a
dump. This is a sad commentary on many gay men who are so casual about their
sexuality that they will meet total strangers in public restrooms and have sex
with them. And then they wondered why AIDS ran so rampant, so quickly, in
their community.
RazzleDzl
Thankfully I never had to take a dump in a restroom with no doors on the stall.
I think all toilet stalls should have doors on the stalls anyway regardless of
the homosexuality going on because I really hate to think of having to go to
the toilet without a door on the stall.
How many of you women have experienced a restroom with toilet stalls without
doors on the stall? Probably none.
Also, little survey here. I am a nudist and am fine being seen nude but
sitting there and pooping with no door doesn't sit right with me. How about
you? Even though you are open to having people see you in the buff do you mind
having to take a dump without a door on the stall or do you not mind since you
feel freedom in being nude?
Micky Mau
Nick Nelson
More likely, the lack of doors on stalls is to reduce vandalism.
lcpofa...@cs.com (Lcpofamerica) wrote:
>>"landmark" afre...@ask.me wrote:
>
>>Some mens restrooms don't have doors on the stalls. Now why is that?
>Unfortunately, the rest of us suffer by not having any privacy when taking a
nudistfamily
"Lcpofamerica" <lcpofa...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> >"landmark" afre...@ask.me wrote:
> Unfortunately, the rest of us suffer by not having any privacy when taking
a
> dump. This is a sad commentary on many gay men who are so casual about
their
> sexuality that they will meet total strangers in public restrooms
or at public beaches
> and have sex
> with them.
"Remember Higbee"
Gymno
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numerous occasions they they have caught known gays dissasembling the
divider between stalls in order to solicit or have more room for
sex.....you figure it out vandalism yes....gays yes......explains all
those holes drilled in those deviders to peep.....that is vandalism by
gays...in public restrooms across america....-....remember priest found
to be a molester of boys are homo. child molesters......john simmons
RazzleDzl
>check with the los angeles truck terminal and they will tell you on
>numerous occasions they they have caught known gays dissasembling the
Are there a lot of gay truck drivers?
Kstar82332
>doors on the stall? Probably none.
>
>Also, little survey here. I am a nudist and am fine being seen nude but
>sitting there and pooping with no door doesn't sit right with me. How about
>you? Even though you are open to having people see you in the buff do you
>mind
>having to take a dump without a door on the stall or do you not mind since
>you
>feel freedom in being nude?
>
>
>
>Micky Mau
>
>
Also, the public beach I go to has no doors. You get used to it.
Charles Daw (Mindspring)
>
> I heard that in Europe, well Germany at the FKK pools there are coed locker
> rooms....
In my very limited experience this is also the case for saunas and,
sometimes, for pools in general.
We were at a resort hotel in the Slovak Republic last Fall. There was a
large, beautiful pool, bathing suit required, and a spa in an entirely
different part of the building. The spa had massage, all sorts of
treatments and a sauna. The dressing room for the sauna was coed and in
the opposite end of the spa from the sauna. You were given a sheet to
use as a wrap for walking through the spa and to sit on in the sauna.
The sauna itself, the showers and a separate room with the cold plunge
pool (of melt water right off the mountain!) all were coed. There were
two single shower stalls but both were open. Typically people arrived,
hung up their sheet and showered. In the sauna some of the women
wrapped the sheet around their waists and some around their entire body,
but in general this was after showering in the open. The first time I
went to the sauna, a man and boy were there in swim trunks. Otherwise
no one wore clothing. After the sauna you could cool off either in the
room with the cold plunge pool or just outside the sauna in unused parts
of the spa. By closing time there was no one else in the spa and to
return to the locker room most of us just dispensed with the sheets.
On the same trip I went to the sauna at the Thermalbad Oberlaa in
Vienna. This is a municipal facility, apparently only one of several in
Vienna. Evidently these originated in the days when apartments and even
homes did not have bathing facilities. (As would not have been uncommon
in the U.S. as recently as 70 or 80 years ago. In northern U.S cities
at that time there were many community bathhouses with swimming pools.
These still exist and continue to be active community centers.) My
German is very limited, I went there only there once, and I don't have a
clear idea of the entire layout but it is an enormous complex. At a
minimum there is a women's sauna, a men's sauna, a mixed sauna, an
indoor pool and three outdoor pools. I didn't take a swimsuit and
swimsuits are required in the pool except at FKK times so I didn't
swim. However, I understand the indoor pool is warm and popular with
children. Also I did not go to the men's sauna.
The locker room is coed, for sauna users and others alike. It is huge
with many rows of lockers and some small connected rooms but is not
segregated by gender. There did seem to be private cubicles that
apparently can be used for dressing and as a locker.
The "mixed" sauna complex also is huge. Indoors there are three saunas,
a cold plunge pool, two groups of showers and a 60 degree Centigrade
eucalyptus room. Outdoors there is a steam room in a separate small
building, a warm pool and a large garden. One bank of showers is on the
end of the first sauna and faces the cold plunge pool. The other bank
of showers faces the outdoors and the warm pool, I believe through a
glass or glass block wall.
I originally intended to go to the sauna at the Amalienbad, another
Vienna municipal bath. Tour books point out that a public bath may seem
like an unlikely tourist destination but that the Amalienbad is an
outstanding example of Jugendstil architecture "enlivened by imaginative
mosaics and tile decorations", particularly in the sauna. Following a
day of sightseeing and dinner I finally got there about 8:00 P.M. on our
last night in Vienna. After a confused German language/sign language
exchange with the lady in the ticket office I finally understood it was
women's night in the sauna. So I went to the Thermalbad Oberlaa because
it is open somewhat later although I "knew" no one would be there at
8:30 on a Wednesday night.
I got my towel, undressed, negotiated a maze of stairs and corridors and
finally arrived at the sauna. The first sauna room is fairly small,
perhaps for 20 people and the door was open. The middle sauna
accommodates 50 or more people and there were perhaps 30 to 40 people
inside. When I started to enter the middle sauna the attendant screamed
at me (in German) and directed me to the first sauna - alone. I stayed
a few minutes and then went out to cool off. Suddenly all those people
came pouring out of the center sauna and showered, plunged, went
outside, etc. There was one family with a boy of about eight. The rest
were adults. Not one person wore anything clothing while I was there
except the attendant who was dressed in white complete with shoes. A
lot of people arrived at the sauna in swimsuits and donned them again on
departure. I assumed they went swimming after doing the sauna.
I returned to "my" sauna and was joined by a late-arriving young
couple. After I expressed my confusion the woman kindly explained to me
that the use of the sauna is regulated by lights over the door. If the
light were one color you were allowed to go in and out. When it changed
to the next you were supposed to keep the door closed until the third
light came on. In her words, "there are rules and those are the
rules". It is supposed to be typically German to have rules and to
follow them but I never before found rules for the use of a sauna.
We had a great time in Vienna, quite apart from this wonderful sauna
experience, and intend to go back sometime soon. When we do I most
certainly will go to both of these baths again.
Charles
Charles Daw (Mindspring)
RazzleDzl wrote:
>
> You know how people make a big deal if there is a coed restroom? Well I don't
> think it's a big deal myself because if men use the urinal and don't flash
> their willy to the women then what is the problem? Then the stalls have doors
> so it's not like men or women are going to be seen by each other on the toilet.
> I really don't think coed restrooms are bad.
We were in a restaurant in France a few years ago. I'm not sure where,
possibly in St. Emilion. The rest room was single gender and the
toilets had doors right down to the floor. However, right next to the
only wash basin in the open part of the room was a single urinal for
men. I don't recall if anyone else used it while I way there or whether
women were or were not present. I believe not, but it was obviously
there to be used.
Charles
Bill
don't
> think it's a big deal myself because if men use the urinal and don't flash
> their willy to the women then what is the problem?
Many public toilets now put the men's urinals in full view when the bathroom
door is opened...so the statement about flashing their willy to the women
applies even with separate facilities.
>
> I think what is worse is same gender restrooms that don't have doors on
the
> toilets. ... I don't know what
> the planners of these restrooms are thinking when they don't put doors on
the
> stalls.
They are thinking that men do not have the same right to privacy as women
and so they can save a few bucks.
>
> Actually at the Universal Ampetheatre the women's restroom has a line out
the
> door so sometimes between bands in concerts the women go in the mens
restrooms.
> They don't care because there are doors on the stalls. I've been in the
men's
> room when women would walk in and tell everyone they are sorry to enter
the
> mens room but they gotta use the toilet badly. I don't mind if women
use the
> men's room because like they say when you have to go you have to go. I
don't
> know if the other men mind though if the women are in there. I do believe
> though that if a man had to use the woman's room because the men's room
was
> full and he couldn't wait then the man would be in trouble and the women
would
> hate it.
>
If a man used the women's room, the women would complain loudly, he would be
detained by some sexist man until a sexist police officer arrested him, so
that a sexist judge could fine him! While these officers of the law don't
give men the same right to privacy as women have, I bet the law used to
convict the man no longer explicitly excludes the conviction of women...if
only men started demanding its equal application. SO IF A WOMEN USES THE
MEN's RESTROOM, DEMAND THAT SHE BE ARRESTED!!!
> Where is the justice. Why do some mens rooms not have stall doors but
> womens rooms always do? We might enjoy nude recreaction and don't need
privacy
> when it comes to swimming, tanning, showering nude but I think most here,
men
> and women want privacy when using the toilet.
>
There is no justice because men don't demand it the way women do. Men need
to start complaining loudly and frequently...and not stop just because we
are dismissed by sexist men that think we should have no rights.
Bill
Charles Daw (Mindspring) <Charl...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:39B0210E...@mindspring.com...
> The rest room was single gender and the
> toilets had doors right down to the floor. However, right next to the
> only wash basin in the open part of the room was a single urinal for
> men. I don't recall if anyone else used it while I way there or whether
> women were or were not present. I believe not, but it was obviously
> there to be used.
I suggest that not only should men not use such a urinal, but they should
also complain to management about the lack of privacy (assuming they cannot
lock the bathroom door) and the risk of urine splattering on the sink
without a partition.
boj...@my-deja.com
heards <hea...@home.com> wrote:
> The University of Toronto has coed bathrooms in their dorms on campus.
> The men and women show as little or as much as they want (some walk
> around naked, some put their towel on and off inside their shower
> stall). It works well.
>
>
> On 24 Aug 2000 13:59:06 GMT, razz...@aol.com (RazzleDzl) wrote:
>
> >>Yes, but there's a pretty big difference in coed REST ROOMS (where
there
> >>are usually stalls) and coed LOCKER ROOMS where people walk around
naked.
> >>
> >
> >You are totally right. I don't think that there are any non-nudist
clubs that
> >have coed locker room/shower rooms.
>
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I am curious how many women would walk around nude in a mixed bathroom
such as you describe and how many would feel comfortable if men did.
boj...@my-deja.com
Mike J Oropeza <moro...@goldway.com> wrote:
> RazzleDzl wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, but there's a pretty big difference in coed REST ROOMS (where
there
> >> are usually stalls) and coed LOCKER ROOMS where people walk around
naked.
> >
> > You are totally right. I don't think that there are any non-nudist
clubs that
> > have coed locker room/shower rooms.
>
> mixed sex pool, spa or sauna. If any of these areas existed in a US
> club, clothing would likely be optional in other areas of the
> establishment, too. Their patrons would need to be comfortable with
> nudity.
> --
> Mike J Oropeza
> Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad ~{';'}~
>
Seems to me the problem is that in this country and in most people's
minds nudity means sex and for women especially nudity means
vulnerability. I may be wrong, but I suspect that most American (U.S.)
women, even
nudists, would not be very comfortable in a "mixed" locker room.
Charles Daw (Mindspring)
I don't believe the door was lockable but privacy or the lack of it
isn't the issue to me. The point is how completely accepted a coed
toilet with an open urinal apparently is in France.
There was no partition and the possibility of splatter is a good
question. I don't recall how close together the urinal and the sink
were and certainly don't know what's required in France.
Charles
Charles
Charles Daw (Mindspring)
Bill wrote:
>
> RazzleDzl <razz...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20000824211757...@ng-fq1.aol.com...
>
> If a man used the women's room, the women would complain loudly, ...
Another time, at a highway stop in France, the Men's Room was closed for
cleaning and everyone use the Women's Room and no one seemed to think
anything of it. Of course the toilets were private with doors right
down to the floor.
I always wondered what they do when they are cleaning the Women's Room.
I assume everyone would go to the Men's.
Charles
Greg Brannan
>
> I always wondered what they do when they are cleaning the Women's Room.
> I assume everyone would go to the Men's.
>
> Charles
I work for a publishing company in the U.S. We did at one time have to
close down a men's room. What we did was re-designate the ladies room as a
men's room and made the women walk all the way down the hall to another
ladies room. I didn't think it was very nice, but according to the
situation, it was the best solution to the problem. It would make more
sense to have unisex rest rooms, but I don't see that happening for a long
time. It's enough of a pain to have to go into a ladies room for me (a
male) when I have to do something in there that has to do with my job. (I'm
the janitor) Anyhow, it would be oh so much more convenient for us janitors
if we had unisex johns. That's just my two cents.