Tori Amos ... are fans lesbian?
Elusis
I thought I'd cross-post this to rmta. Well folks? Are we Tori-fans all
lesbians? :>
In article <charles1D...@netcom.com>,
charles copeland <char...@netcom.com> wrote:
>I have heard Tori Amos music, and really like it.
Then you have excellent taste. :>
>However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
I disagree. Tori never says "all men suck" or "men are the enemy." She
talks about situations where a particular man hurt her or made her angry,
but she doesn't blame the whole gender. "Under the Pink," in fact,
focuses on the ways women hurt each other, but I wouldn't call her a
woman-hater.
>I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
I would say no. Tori has a lesbian following, as many women singers do,
but she also has many gay male fans, and many straight fans of both
genders, and many bisexual fans, and probably one or two adventurous
celibates. :> The crowd at her concerts tends to be about 50/50
gender-wise, and though there are groups of guys and groups of gals, there
are many hetero couples who attend together as well. rec.music.tori-amos
has almost as many male "regulars" as females, and the "sexuality
continuum" seems to match up pretty well with the rest of society.
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Elusis
In article <4q958o$3...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, Jane Waddell <j...@fc.hp.com> wrote:>: However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
>: I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
>
>Well, I've heard many of my lesbian friends say that they don't
>have anything against men, largely because they don't have to
>sleep with them.
<snortgiggle>
>By that justification, it would seem that Tori's fans should
>be hetero feminists.
Many are. :> Both the men and the women.
>However, most of the Tori fans that I know are men (boyfriend,
>and several of his friends). And while I am hetero and consider
>myself a feminist, I'm not a big Tori fan.
Ah, but we can easily solve that with just a little help from the Tori
Re-Education Center... <gets out butterfly net>
;>
Elusis
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T-Bone
her latest single "Toss Me That Box of Snack Crackers" would tend to indicate in
the affirmative....
TimW
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Four score and some-odd minutes ago, thom...@ucsub.Colorado.EDU
(Elusis) said:
>I thought I'd cross-post this to rmta. Well folks? Are we Tori-fans all
>lesbians? :>
I know I am.
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Wilton Neville Chamberlain
Elusis wrote:
>
> In article <4q958o$3...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, Jane Waddell <j...@fc.hp.com> wrote:
> >charles copeland (char...@netcom.com) wrote:
> >: I have heard Tori Amos music, and really like it.
> >: However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
> >: I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
> >
> >Well, I've heard many of my lesbian friends say that they don't
> >have anything against men, largely because they don't have to
> >sleep with them.
>
> <snortgiggle>
And the men no doubt look at all those rolls of Sapphic fat and say
"No hard feelings."
> >By that justification, it would seem that Tori's fans should
> >be hetero feminists.
>
> Many are. :> Both the men and the women.
But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
> >However, most of the Tori fans that I know are men (boyfriend,
> >and several of his friends). And while I am hetero and consider
> >myself a feminist, I'm not a big Tori fan.
>
> Ah, but we can easily solve that with just a little help from the Tori
> Re-Education Center... <gets out butterfly net>
Solve what? Her heterosexuality? Uck. You fuzzbumpers are all alike.
Adam Christian Schwenk
In article <31C8AF...@appeaser.net>,
Wilton Neville Chamberlain <w...@appeaser.net> wrote:
>Elusis wrote:
> >
> > In article <4q958o$3...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, Jane Waddell <j...@fc.hp.com> wrote:
> > >charles copeland (char...@netcom.com) wrote:
> > >: I have heard Tori Amos music, and really like it.
> > >: However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
> > >: I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
> > >
> > >Well, I've heard many of my lesbian friends say that they don't
> > >have anything against men, largely because they don't have to
> > >sleep with them.
>And the men no doubt look at all those rolls of Sapphic fat and say
>"No hard feelings."
That's a stereotypical view of lesbians. Tell me, how many
lesbians do you know? I actually know quite a few, many of whom are
beautiful. White heterosexual male, are we?? I'm sorry.
> > >By that justification, it would seem that Tori's fans should
> > >be hetero feminists.
> > Many are. :> Both the men and the women.
>
>But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
At first I thought this was someone on rec.music.tori-amos being
cute. But then I realized the crossposting and knew that this kind of
post possibly originated from there. I mean, given the chance,
especially on usenet, any closet case will be the first to post something
like the above. Frigging breeder.
> > >However, most of the Tori fans that I know are men (boyfriend,
> > >and several of his friends). And while I am hetero and consider
> > >myself a feminist, I'm not a big Tori fan.
> >
> > Ah, but we can easily solve that with just a little help from the Tori
> > Re-Education Center... <gets out butterfly net>
>
>Solve what? Her heterosexuality? Uck. You fuzzbumpers are all alike.
And you kentucky rednecks are all the same yourselves...tell me,
how many times have you bumped your sister??
Jerk.
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Todd Bradley
Adam Christian Schwenk (asch...@flute.aix.calpoly.edu) wrote:
: At first I thought this was someone on rec.music.tori-amos being
: cute. But then I realized the crossposting and knew that this kind of
: post possibly originated from there. I mean, given the chance,
: especially on usenet, any closet case will be the first to post something
: like the above. Frigging breeder.
Troll sucker!
Todd.
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Norman Buchwald
Wilton Neville Chamberlain <w...@appeaser.net> wrote:
[snip}
>Solve what? Her heterosexuality? Uck. You fuzzbumpers are all alike.
TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!
Stephanie Rendino
Wilton Neville Chamberlain (w...@appeaser.net) wrote:
(Long, lesbians-are-disgusting post removed in its slimy entirety.)
Oh, you're just jealous because we have girlfriends and you don't.
Le Revenant
Stephanie Rendino (be...@CAM.ORG) wrote:
: Wilton Neville Chamberlain (w...@appeaser.net) wrote:
: (Long, lesbians-are-disgusting post removed in its slimy entirety.)
: Oh, you're just jealous because we have girlfriends and you don't.
He's also jealous of the fact that you can have an orgasm w/o a penis.
Dan.
eRIK sWALLOW?!?
What rock did this guy crawl out from? Everybody run, we've open
the floodgates! I'd almost forgotten how closedminded people could be in
the world.... Sigh.
:) Erik
"but I still can hope you will see I'm your home" -- Tori Amos
"this stick was signed by Jean Belliveau so don't fucking tell me
where to fucking go" -- Jane Siberry
"everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads"
-- They Might Be Giants
On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Wilton Neville Chamberlain wrote:
> And the men no doubt look at all those rolls of Sapphic fat and say
> "No hard feelings."
> ...
> But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
> ...
eRIK sWALLOW?!?
What the hell are you talking about, pray tell?
:) Erik
"but I still can hope you will see I'm your home" -- Tori Amos
"this stick was signed by Jean Belliveau so don't fucking tell me
where to fucking go" -- Jane Siberry
"everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads"
-- They Might Be Giants
Dan Duncan
As I recall, Wilton Neville Chamberlain (w...@appeaser.net) wrote:
->But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
Hmmm... Insulting someone else for doing something that you yourself do.
(IE, sexual desire for women) What's the word for that again?
Oh, yes.... hypocrite.
-DanD
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Richard MacDonald
Who cares? How does that (fact or fiction) affect your enjoyment of her music?
Or are you just afraid that since you like it you might be one yourself?
Dick MacDonald
Pierre...that Cayden Guy.
This is a very interesting question. I mean, I've known I was a Lesbian for
a long time, but am I alone?
Schmuck(ette).
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Richard MacDonald (dic...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Who cares? How does that (fact or fiction) affect your enjoyment of her
: Or are you just afraid that since you like it you might be one yourself?
: Dick MacDonald
Exactly, this is my greatest fear.
Phamos818
pierre sed:
<This is a very interesting question. I mean,
<I've known I was a Lesbian for a long time,
<but am I alone?
Don't be difficult. :P
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PhAntOm GirL
(PhAntOm GirL crawls out from the shadows where she has been lurking
for weeks with a supersized blowtorch and shouts- "Get ready for a
flame!!!!!!)
It is very rare that something will bother me as much as this did, but
I've got to say something, ANYTHING, here to keep from e-mailing this
idiot privately!!!!!!!!
In article <31C8AF...@appeaser.net> Wilton Neville Chamberlain <w...@appeaser.net> writes:
>Elusis wrote:
> >
> > In article <4q958o$3...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, Jane Waddell <j...@fc.hp.com> wrote:
> > >charles copeland (char...@netcom.com) wrote:
> > >: I have heard Tori Amos music, and really like it.
> > >: However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
> > >: I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
> > >
> > >Well, I've heard many of my lesbian friends say that they don't
> > >have anything against men, largely because they don't have to
> > >sleep with them.
> >
>
>And the men no doubt look at all those rolls of Sapphic fat and say
>"No hard feelings."
>
> > >be hetero feminists.
> >
> > Many are. :> Both the men and the women.
>
>
you scamper off to your own little happy world of sheer ignorance and
blow yourself. Who knows, you might enjoy it!!!!
> > >However, most of the Tori fans that I know are men (boyfriend,
> > >and several of his friends). And while I am hetero and consider
> > >myself a feminist, I'm not a big Tori fan.
> >
> > Ah, but we can easily solve that with just a little help from the Tori
> > Re-Education Center... <gets out butterfly net>
>
>.
Um.... dummy. I think that Elusis was referring to the fan part. Then
again, . . . :)
Look, I don't know who this guy thinks he is, but obviously he's an
ignorant, ass-hole just looking for a fight. And after the day I've had,
I'd be more than willing to meet him out in the street. :)
Wilton Neville Chaimberlain: Get off our newsgroup and go buy a life!
And that is all of the ranting and raving that my poor hurting head
can handle for one evening, so. . .
G'night! Higs, all!
PhAntOm GirL
Stephanie Rendino
Le Revenant (dho...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: Stephanie Rendino (be...@CAM.ORG) wrote:
: : Wilton Neville Chamberlain (w...@appeaser.net) wrote:
: : (Long, lesbians-are-disgusting post removed in its slimy entirety.)
: : Oh, you're just jealous because we have girlfriends and you don't.
: He's also jealous of the fact that you can have an orgasm w/o a penis.
: Dan.
One after the other no less. And we can all ejaculate too, in theory.
SmartAWB
Well, I know for a fact that I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body! :D
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Rich Wilton
eRIK sWALLOW?!? wrote:
>
> What the hell are you talking about, pray tell?
Uh, like it says in the header? Do fuzzbumpers dig Tori Aanus or
not?
Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell!
Stick it up your ass, Jesse Helms!
Ram it up your cunt, Anita!
-- J. Biafra
> On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, T-Bone wrote:
>
> > her latest single "Toss Me That Box of Tuna Fish" would tend to indicate in
> > the affirmative....
Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
know what I mean.
Le Revenant
Stephanie Rendino (be...@CAM.ORG) wrote:
: : He's also jealous of the fact that you can have an orgasm w/o a penis.
: : Dan.
: One after the other no less. And we can all ejaculate too, in theory.
Hey, some of us are multi-orgasmic. ;) Female ejaculation: now
that'd be an interesting and response-provoking thread.
Dan.
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Persinthia Lawdro
>Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
>that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
>cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
>know what I mean.
That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I personally
don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
Aimee Lortskell
Dan Duncan (da...@rainbow.rmii.com) wrote:
: As I recall, Wilton Neville Chamberlain (w...@appeaser.net) wrote:
: ->But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
: Hmmm... Insulting someone else for doing something that you yourself do.
: (IE, sexual desire for women) What's the word for that again?
: Oh, yes.... hypocrite.
actually, the proper term would be "guy who never has a date". this
reminds me of when a lesbian acquaintance of mine was hollered at in a
bar that she was a muff diver. she pointed out to the guy that if he
wasn't a muff diver then his gf must be pretty bored. i figure the same
goes for fishlicker. if he really thinks of going down on a woman in
such a negative light, he must be no fun at parties.
Aimee the Magdalene (who likes fishlickers of either gender)
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Icarus
You said it yourself...You "just don't get it". And if you don't
understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
to the other goober shows just how little you know.
-icarus
who just had to break the crossposting "rule" for this
Scott Kenney
I personally have never met anyone from Lesbos, though a cruise in the
Aegean sounds like an excellent idea right now.
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Throw out the hardware
Let's do it right..
Kestrel the Fairly Decent Dragon
Wilton Neville Chamberlain <w...@appeaser.net> wrote:
<snippage of the entire BS post>
Hey, didn't I see you in that movie?
"Squeal like a pig, boy!"
Kestrel
The Fairly Decent Dragon
Haakon Lugiesson
Persinthia (alternative.music.net.goddess) Lawdro wrote:
>
> >Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
> >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> >know what I mean.
>
> That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I personally
> don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
> Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
> faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
I know who you are, Persinthia! You even sent me E-mail once last summer.
You are one of my 10 Most Influencial People, along with Zoogz Rift and
Rev. Mutha TarlaStar and Lou Duchez. Please crosspost anything you like
to us at alt.fan.karl-malden.nose, as you have always been about the only
consistently funny and sane poster to a.m.alternative.
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Rich Wilton
> : ->But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
> : Hmmm... Insulting someone else for doing something that you yourself do.
> : (IE, sexual desire for women) What's the word for that again?
> : Oh, yes.... hypocrite.
Troll sounds more like it. But aah, what the hell.... =)
> actually, the proper term would be "guy who never has a date". this
> reminds me of when a lesbian acquaintance of mine was hollered at in a
> bar that she was a muff diver. she pointed out to the guy that if he
> wasn't a muff diver then his gf must be pretty bored. i figure the same
> goes for fishlicker. if he really thinks of going down on a woman in
> such a negative light, he must be no fun at parties.
>
> Aimee the Magdalene (who licks fishlickers of either gender)
How about fuzzbumpers? Ya like fuzzbumpers too? I'll bet that you
fall asleep every night dreaming about sharing a double-header with
Tori Anus.
Rich Wilton
Icarus wrote:
>
> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
> >
> > >Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
> > >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> > >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> > >know what I mean.
> >
> > That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I personally
> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>
> understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
> to the other goober shows just how little you know.
Well, now that you have our attention, Icky (if I may call you Icky),
please enlighten us as to why millions of girls cream their panties
about Tori Aanus's faux-feminism-bullshit approach. Repressed teenage
lesbianism, perhaps? It is a known fact that Tori Aanus is dyke as all
shit. Which makes you a fag hag, Icky. Now toddle along and go listen
to your Erasure CD collection.
> -icarus
> who just had to break the crossposting "rule" for this
Rich "Goober" Wilton
Karen, Goddess of the Groove
On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Rich Wilton wrote:
> Uh, like it says in the header? Do fuzzbumpers dig Tori Aanus or
> not?
<sigh> Will the stupidity ever end?
> Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
> that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> know what I mean.
Not only is this slanderous, but it's just tasteless. Why don't you find
something constructive to do with your time instead of trolling
newsgroups? Start by getting a clue.
-Karen
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So what do I do then ? I guess I'll put in A in there
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Le Revenant
Persinthia Lawdro (cow...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I personally
: don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
: Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
: faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
Then why are you reading this newsgroup?
That was *such* an intelligent dis at Tori, too. "Faux feminism?"
And hey, if Tori can make millions of girls "cream," good for her--I hear
it takes one hell of a lover to make a woman ejaculate!
Art Loeffler
Rich Wilton (rw...@sixtus.popecom.com) wrote:
: How about fuzzbumpers? Ya like fuzzbumpers too? I'll bet that you
: Tori Anus.
Beats falling asleep every night dreaming up new fifth grade insults for
r.m.t-a members.
Aww heck, I'll give ye the benefit of the doubt. *Sixth* grade insults.
--
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"words you say / never seem to live up to the ones inside your head / the
lives we make / never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead"
-Soundgarden, _The Day I Tried to Live_
Art Loeffler
Rich Wilton (rw...@sixtus.popecom.com) wrote:
: Icarus wrote:
: > You said it yourself...You "just don't get it". And if you don't
: > understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
: > to the other goober shows just how little you know.
: Well, now that you have our attention, Icky (if I may call you Icky),
: please enlighten us as to why millions of girls cream their panties
: about Tori Aanus's faux-feminism-bullshit approach.
Do they? Cite sources, please.
: Repressed teenage
: lesbianism, perhaps? It is a known fact that Tori Aanus is dyke as all
: shit.
I didn't know that shit *had* sexual preferences. Oh well; you're
closer to it than I, I'll just take your word for it.
: Which makes you a fag hag, Icky. Now toddle along and go listen
: to your Erasure CD collection.
"Fag hag"? "Fuzzbumper"? "Mashes muff"? Sometimes it's nice not being
up to date with slang terms... maybe sleeping off my senior year was a
good idea after all.
Mark T. Gordon
Jay (among others) tells us:
>>I thought I'd cross-post this to rmta. Well folks? Are we Tori-fans all
>>lesbians? :>
>
>I know I am.
Is it just me, or are there a lot of us strangely equipped lesbians out here?
:-P <--You all know what this means in this context. ;-)
-Mark Gordon
Mark T. Gordon
Scott Kenney tells us:
>I personally have never met anyone from Lesbos, though a cruise in the
>Aegean sounds like an excellent idea right now.
I recall hearing back in 1988 that both of Michael Dukakis' parents were
Lesbians. I'm surprised that the Bush (boy, lots of references in this post!)
campaign didn't make more of that.
-Mark Gordon
Haakon Lugiesson
Art Loeffler wrote:
>
> Rich Wilton (rw...@sixtus.popecom.com) wrote:
>
> : How about fuzzbumpers? Ya like fuzzbumpers too? I'll bet that you
> : fall asleep every night dreaming about sharing a double-header with
> : Tori Anus.
I think lesbians are really hot to watch.
> Beats falling asleep every night dreaming up new fifth grade insults for
> r.m.t-a members.
I fall asleep at night dreaming of Claudia and Pam making me a sandwich.
> Aww heck, I'll give ye the benefit of the doubt. *Sixth* grade insults.
Sixth grade is too early to be a lesbian, Art.
Persinthia Lawdro
>> That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I
personally
>> don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
>> Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
>> faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>
>I know who you are, Persinthia! You even sent me E-mail once last summer.
>You are one of my 10 Most Influencial People, along with Zoogz Rift and
>Rev. Mutha TarlaStar and Lou Duchez. Please crosspost anything you like
>to us at alt.fan.karl-malden.nose, as you have always been about the only
>consistently funny and sane poster to a.m.alternative.
Thanks...and you will be cited as one of my 10 most favorite spelling
correctors (and just to think I sa 6th grade district spelling champ)
Persinthia Lawdro
>> > That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I
personally
>> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the
original
>> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
>> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>>
>> You said it yourself...You "just don't get it". And if you don't
>> understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
>> to the other goober shows just how little you know.
I know that she RIPS-OFF (yeah...that's right I fucking said it) Kate Bush,
who's 'Mother Stands for Comfort' and 'And Dream of Sheep' off of Hounds of
Love blow away anything Tori (look at me, Ma, I can sing like Kate) Amos ever
wrote. Fuck feminism. It's just a bullshit excuse for women to whine and moan
about their status in life. Stop moaning and go out and DO something. Tori
whines and moans about her past abuse. Who cares...I'm manic-dpressive and
went through years of alcoholism. Do I whine...FUCK NO....I thank God every
day that I am alive and sober!!! Get a clue, Tori, women of the 90's don't
need to bitch!!!!
Stephanie Rendino
Rich Wilton (rw...@sixtus.popecom.com) wrote:
: eRIK sWALLOW?!? wrote:
: >
: > What the hell are you talking about, pray tell?
: Uh, like it says in the header? Do fuzzbumpers dig Tori Aanus or
: not?
:
: Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell!
: Stick it up your ass, Jesse Helms!
: Ram it up your cunt, Anita!
: -- J. Biafra
: > On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, T-Bone wrote:
: >
: > > her latest single "Toss Me That Box of Tuna Fish" would tend to indicate in
: > > the affirmative....
: Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
: that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
: cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
: know what I mean.
If Tori is doin' it with Melissa, that's not "a shame" that's "Woo-hoo!
Way ta go TORI!" and it means we chicks have a chance with Tori too!
Like I said, you're just jealous.
Icarus
Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
>
> >> That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I
> personally
> >> don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
> >> Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
> >> faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
> >
> >You are one of my 10 Most Influencial People, along with Zoogz Rift and
> >Rev. Mutha TarlaStar and Lou Duchez. Please crosspost anything you like
> >to us at alt.fan.karl-malden.nose, as you have always been about the only
> >consistently funny and sane poster to a.m.alternative.
>
> Thanks...and you will be cited as one of my 10 most favorite spelling
> correctors (and just to think I sa 6th grade district spelling champ)
and she also WHINED:
>I know that she RIPS-OFF (yeah...that's right I fucking said it) Kate
>Bush,
>who's 'Mother Stands for Comfort' and 'And Dream of Sheep' off of
>Hounds of
>Love blow away anything Tori (look at me, Ma, I can sing like Kate)
>Amos ever
>wrote. Fuck feminism. It's just a bullshit excuse for women to whine
>and moan
>about their status in life. Stop moaning and go out and DO something.
>Tori
>whines and moans about her past abuse. Who cares...I'm manic-dpressive
>and
>went through years of alcoholism. Do I whine...FUCK NO....I thank God
>every
>day that I am alive and sober!!! Get a clue, Tori, women of the 90's
>don't
>need to bitch!!!
Too bad you never learned anything about debate. Your arguments are
weak and unsupported. As far as women bitching, make sure you pass on
your elitist "words of wisdom" to Alanis and Tracy Bonham as well. Oh
and don't forget Sinead O'Connor..I'm sure you believe she sucks as well
since you have such perfect taste in music.
"A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth." Aesop
"Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but
is a stab at the health of human society." -Emerson
"He that flings dirt at another, dirties himself the most." Thomas
Fuller, MD
"Folk whose own behavior is most ridiculous are always to the fore in
slandering others." -Moliere
-icarus
Norman Buchwald
cow...@ix.netcom.com (Persinthia Lawdro) wrote:
>>> > That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I
>personally
>>> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the
>original
>>> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
>>> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>>>
>>> You said it yourself...You "just don't get it". And if you don't
>>> understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
>>> to the other goober shows just how little you know.
>I know that she RIPS-OFF (yeah...that's right I fucking said it) Kate Bush,
>who's 'Mother Stands for Comfort' and 'And Dream of Sheep' off of Hounds of
>Love blow away anything Tori (look at me, Ma, I can sing like Kate) Amos ever
>wrote. Fuck feminism. It's just a bullshit excuse for women to whine and moan
>about their status in life. Stop moaning and go out and DO something. Tori
>whines and moans about her past abuse. Who cares...I'm manic-dpressive and
>went through years of alcoholism. Do I whine...FUCK NO....I thank God every
>day that I am alive and sober!!! Get a clue, Tori, women of the 90's don't
>need to bitch!!!!
From her interview on Modern Rock Live, February 1996: "I think the
feminist movement is dead."
Tori is hardly for "whining" as you put it, and the feminist movement
was never about "whining," anyway as it was originally set up.
Anyway, it's not to maon about "status in life," it's to set up a
consciousness of what history and our culture has dictated what women
were. A big difference. She protests any type of system that puts
control on any person, if you want to get a more direct political
stance, personal view.
We've had lots of discussion about the Tori vs. Kate issue on both
rec.music.gaffa and rec.music.tori-amos, and we've come to the
conclusion that the very striking difference of their poetry, and
their differences in music style prove they're not as similar as they
first seem. Kate is very likely one main influence of Tori and Tori
has admitted to saying that "Running Up That Hill" is one of the best
songs she's ever heard. But a rip off? Come on! Tori's a strong
artist in her own right. (By the way, I don't consider Heather Nova
to be a Kate ripoff, either, nor Jewel a Tori rip-off, let alone Happy
Rhodes a Kate rip-off, to let you know further where such discussions
have gone).
The Storm
Nothing's gonna stop me from floating
PhAntOm GirL
Rich Wilton <rw...@sixtus.popecom.com> wrote: popecom.com> writes:
>Aimee Lortskell wrote:
>>
>> Dan Duncan (da...@rainbow.rmii.com) wrote:
>> : As I recall, W. Neville Chamberlain (w...@appeaser.net) wrote:
>> : ->But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
>> : Hmmm... Insulting someone else for doing something that you yourself do.
>> : (IE, sexual desire for women) What's the word for that again?
>> : Oh, yes.... hypocrite.
>
>Troll sounds more like it. But aah, what the hell.... =)
>
>> actually, the proper term would be "guy who never has a date". this
>> reminds me of when a lesbian acquaintance of mine was hollered at in a
>> bar that she was a muff diver. she pointed out to the guy that if he
>> wasn't a muff diver then his gf must be pretty bored. i figure the same
>> goes for fishlicker. if he really thinks of going down on a woman in
>> such a negative light, he must be no fun at parties.
>>
>> Aimee the Magdalene (who licks fishlickers of either gender)
>
>fall asleep every night dreaming about sharing a double-header with
>Tori Anus.
>
>> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>> * stuff IS the issue. - Tori Amos *
>> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>.
Rich,
Get off our newsgroup and take your troll friends with you.
PhAntOm GirL
**************************************************
* I am the sexgoddess of the western hemisphere, *
* so don't mess with me. -Maggie Estep *
**************************************************
Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film
Rich Wilton <rw...@sixtus.popecom.com> wrote:
>Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
>that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
>cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
>know what I mean.
I hate to interrupt your homophobic rant here, but I just want to point out
two things:
1) There are no such things as "beefcake tomatos". Perhaps you meant
"beefsteak tomatoes".
2) The "Brave and Crazy" cover has her face on it. I believe you were
referring to "Never Enough".
Carry on.
--
Matt
matt...@li.net http://www.li.net/~matthewb/
"If you start out depressed, everything's kind of a pleasant surprise"
- Lloyd, "Say Anything"
john patrick lodder
In article <31CD69...@nando.net>, Icarus <ica...@nando.net> wrote:
>Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
>>
>> >> That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I
>> personally
>> >> don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
>> >> Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
>> >> faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>> >
>> >You are one of my 10 Most Influencial People, along with Zoogz Rift and
>> >Rev. Mutha TarlaStar and Lou Duchez. Please crosspost anything you like
>> >to us at alt.fan.karl-malden.nose, as you have always been about the only
>> >consistently funny and sane poster to a.m.alternative.
>>
>> Thanks...and you will be cited as one of my 10 most favorite spelling
>> correctors (and just to think I sa 6th grade district spelling champ)
>
>and she also WHINED:
>>Bush,
>>who's 'Mother Stands for Comfort' and 'And Dream of Sheep' off of
>>Hounds of
>>Love blow away anything Tori (look at me, Ma, I can sing like Kate)
>>Amos ever
>>wrote. Fuck feminism. It's just a bullshit excuse for women to whine
>>and moan
>>about their status in life. Stop moaning and go out and DO something.
>>Tori
>>whines and moans about her past abuse. Who cares...I'm manic-dpressive
>>and
>>went through years of alcoholism. Do I whine...FUCK NO....I thank God
>>every
>>day that I am alive and sober!!! Get a clue, Tori, women of the 90's
>>don't
>
>Too bad you never learned anything about debate. Your arguments are
>weak and unsupported. As far as women bitching, make sure you pass on
>your elitist "words of wisdom" to Alanis and Tracy Bonham as well. Oh
>and don't forget Sinead O'Connor..I'm sure you believe she sucks as well
>since you have such perfect taste in music.
Gosh, I like "Little Earthquakes" and "Hounds of Love" both. I've got
a Sinead O'Connor album around here someplace, too. And hey, there's
the stack of Mabel Mercer and Edith Piaf albums too!
But not Melissa Etheridge, for no particular reason, guess I hear her
stuff on the radio enough.
john, who thinks female vocal has been around a while, and will continue
to be around a while longer, even after the current crop are gone.....
--
"Oh, to be in England now that April's there" --RB
My opinions are not those of my employer.
Le Revenant
Persinthia Lawdro (cow...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: ...I'm manic-dpressive and
It shows.
that abby girl
Le Revenant <dho...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>Persinthia Lawdro (cow...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: ...I'm manic-dpressive and
>: went through years of alcoholism.
>It shows.
dan, Never Ever Ever use a person's mental illness as an insult
Ever again or i will personally come to penn state and kick your ass all
over the ivy league campus. yes, i'm overly sensitive, but i like to think
that people on rmta think about how their words might affect the various
people who read the ng before they hit the send buttion. this is more
indicative of karl (capsatan) than the rmta populace. for Shame.
abby.
(who's depressive and doesn't think the fact that it shows means she's a
bad person by any means...)
--
that abby girl.............................................abbyj@nwu.edu
way beyond the pale
Le Revenant
that abby girl (mccl...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
(abby, this might piss you off...others too)
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
: Le Revenant <dho...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
: >Persinthia Lawdro (cow...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: >: ...I'm manic-dpressive and
: >: went through years of alcoholism.
: >It shows.
: dan, Never Ever Ever use a person's mental illness as an insult
: Ever again or i will personally come to penn state and kick your ass all
: over the ivy league campus. yes, i'm overly sensitive, but i like to think
: that people on rmta think about how their words might affect the various
: people who read the ng before they hit the send buttion. this is more
: indicative of karl (capsatan) than the rmta populace. for Shame.
Hmmm. I don't really know how to respond to that. I guess that
"Persinthia's" "I've-been-through-some-rough-shit-and-want-to-tout
it-to-make-others-feel-unworthy" attitude sort of ticked me off. I
really don't like people who feel high and mighty about experiencing
something that is, in my opinion, fairly normal. Yes, I view many forms
of mental illness as quite normal, indeed perhaps as coping mechanisms
we need to develop to sustain life. I also view mental illness as
something which produces a lot of productive things--namely various art
forms. Mental illness has never had "bad" or "sensitive" connotations
for me, I guess. It easily *could* have connotations for me because
I've been exposed to some forms of it, but I detach myself from it,
I guess. Yes, my comment was uncalled for, and I thought about
that after I sent it, and I do apologize for it. I realize that the fact
that she mentioned
how people should consider the feelings of others indicates that she
expected better of me, being a Nice Guy and all. I guess that this is
all I have to say about it. Well, I *could* say more and would like to
but won't out of respect for any rmta'ers who do feel sensitive about
such issues. I guess I just have a weird take on the subject.
: (who's depressive and doesn't think the fact that it shows means she's a
: bad person by any means...)
No, it doesn't, and I'm glad to hear you say that.
Dan.
that abby girl
Le Revenant <dho...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>that abby girl (mccl...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
>: dan, Never Ever Ever use a person's mental illness as an insult
>: Ever again or i will personally come to penn state and kick your ass all
>: over the ivy league campus. yes, i'm overly sensitive, but i like to think
>: that people on rmta think about how their words might affect the various
>: people who read the ng before they hit the send buttion. this is more
>: indicative of karl (capsatan) than the rmta populace. for Shame.
>
>Hmmm. I don't really know how to respond to that. I guess that
>"Persinthia's" "I've-been-through-some-rough-shit-and-want-to-tout
>it-to-make-others-feel-unworthy" attitude sort of ticked me off.
i would simply like to note that "it shows" is not a very effective way of
conveying that sentiment. :)
>Yes, my comment was uncalled for, and I thought about
>that after I sent it, and I do apologize for it.
thank you. appreciated.
>: (who's depressive and doesn't think the fact that it shows means she's a
>: bad person by any means...)
>No, it doesn't, and I'm glad to hear you say that.
just as long as i don't get "high and mighty" about it, right?
abby.
Phamos818
some dipshit troll said:
<(if I may call you Icky)
No, you may NOT call Icarus "Icky." I may have to hit you soon.
<It is a known fact that Tori Aanus is dyke as all
<shit. Which makes you a fag hag, Icky
*SMACK* *wapwapwapwap* That's much better. Now get your dumb ass away from
these here parts and leave Icarus (and the rest of us) alone.
*************************************************
*.....maggie t. morris / pham...@aol.com......*
* MAGGIE'S NEW EDITED .SIG!!! *
* "give me peace, love, and a hard cock" *
* -TORI AMOS *
* "i envy you your ignorance, i hear that *
* it's bliss" *
* -ANI DIFRANCO *
* "he is troubled by delusory insects" *
* -MORPHEUS *
*************************************************
Phamos818
Dan sed:
<: ...I'm manic-dpressive and
<: went through years of alcoholism.
<It shows.
Yeah, Persinthia's a stupid bitch, but that doesn't have to do with her
alcoholism or depression, Dan. I'm callin' you on this one.
I still want this idiots to go away, though.
Art Loeffler
Haakon Lugiesson (lug...@aix.telia.se) wrote:
: Art Loeffler wrote:
: > Beats falling asleep every night dreaming up new fifth grade insults for
: > r.m.t-a members.
: I fall asleep at night dreaming of Claudia and Pam making me a sandwich.
<smile and nod, smile and nod...>
: > Aww heck, I'll give ye the benefit of the doubt. *Sixth* grade insults.
: Sixth grade is too early to be a lesbian, Art.
I'm not sure I'd agree with that. And sixth grade *definitely* isn't
too early to feel hate or discrimination toward particular groups of
people, most commonly if your parents are preaching it.
Le Revenant
Phamos818 (pham...@aol.com) wrote:
: Dan sed:
: <: ...I'm manic-dpressive and
: <: went through years of alcoholism.
: <It shows.
: Yeah, Persinthia's a stupid bitch, but that doesn't have to do with her
: alcoholism or depression, Dan. I'm callin' you on this one.
Alright, already, I've already been called. Leave me alone about it.
Jeffrey Lea
Icarus wrote:
>
> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
> >
> > >Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
> > >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> > >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> > >know what I mean.
> >
> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>
> understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
> to the other goober shows just how little you know.
And besides, so what if Tori Amos is a lesbian, anyway. She sure as shit
can't sing worth a fuck and she's ugly too. Maybe she can play the piano
some, but so can my old Aunt Gertrude. I'm not going to buy any of her
music no matter what. And if anybody doesn't like that, they shouldn't
buy any either.
> -icarus
> who just had to break the crossposting "rule" for this
- Jeffrey
(who figured that he might as well break the "rule" too)
Norman Buchwald
Jeffrey Lea <wild...@mother.juno.net> wrote:
[snip]
Before flaming, please remember to remove all the headers. (I'm
sending this by crosspost to remember all the people on the other ngs,
to remember too). Argh. I think this is how "Pearl Jam Rules" and
"What's your favorite album of the 80s?" got started. Argh. This can
turn into a virus that never goes away.
Persinthia Lawdro
>Too bad you never learned anything about debate. Your arguments are
>weak and unsupported. As far as women bitching, make sure you pass on
>your elitist "words of wisdom" to Alanis and Tracy Bonham as well. Oh
>and don't forget Sinead O'Connor..I'm sure you believe she sucks as well
>since you have such perfect taste in music.
>
>"A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth." Aesop
>
>"Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but
>is a stab at the health of human society." -Emerson
>
>"He that flings dirt at another, dirties himself the most." Thomas
>Fuller, MD
>
>"Folk whose own behavior is most ridiculous are always to the fore in
>slandering others." -Moliere
You see, Icarus, if I may call you that...I don't have to quote a bunch of
authors or doctors to get my point across. I'm secure enough to go by my own
experience in life and not show off to the ENTIRE internet my book knowledge.
Hey, that's great, you must be pretty proud of yourself knowing that people
are going to read this and say 'Boy...you sure showed Persinthia who's the
smart puppy'
See...you're talking about passing on my 'Elitist words of Wisdom' to others
and all you can do is quote other people's writing. What's wrong, Iccy, are
your own life experiences and 'words of wisom' so shallow that you have to
hide behind 'quotes'????
Tell you what...next time you want to talk about the fine art of debating,
don't bring any famous authors into it. Do you OWN debating!
pele
Jeffrey Lea <wild...@mother.juno.net> wrote:
>Icarus wrote:
>>
>> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
>> >
>> > >Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
>> > >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
>> > >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
>> > >know what I mean.
>> >
>> > That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I personally
>> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
>> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
>> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
Hey---you sound familiar...didn't I read some of your bullshit in
Request magazine?? What you don't get is that Tori has talent and
isn't afraid to be herself...not Kate Bush!!! I know who Kate Bush
is, and their music doesn't even sound the same. You son of a
motherless goat!!! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt
of elderberries!!! I fart in your general direction. I hope someone
kicks your ass some day. And all of that goes for that other person
who insulted Tori a few spaces down,too. You both suck....each
other...
Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN
Karen, Goddess of the Groove wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Rich Wilton wrote:
>
> > Uh, like it says in the header? Do fuzzbumpers dig Tori Aanus or
> > not?
>
Not bloody likely, until you lesbians fuck off and leave the babes to
us MANLY MEN.
> > Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
> > that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> > cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> > know what I mean.
>
> Not only is this slanderous, but it's just tasteless. Why don't you find
> something constructive to do with your time instead of trolling
> newsgroups? Start by getting a clue.
Melissa Ethridge is a stone fox. I know a MANLY MAN such as me could
cure her lesbsianism in two half-hour appilcations of my patented HOT
BEEF INJECTION. You can have Tory Amos and I will take Melissa. Deal?
> -Karen
By the way I visited your web page. I bet you gave that poor statue
a HERNIA, not a WOODY like you said.
Dave S. King
A MAN'S MAN
Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN
PhAntOm GirL wrote:
>
> Rich Wilton <rw...@sixtus.popecom.com> wrote: popecom.com> writes:
> >Aimee Lortskell wrote:
> >>
> >> Dan Duncan (da...@rainbow.rmii.com) wrote:
> >> : As I recall, W. Neville Chamberlain (w...@appeaser.net) wrote:
> >> : ->But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
> >> : Hmmm... Insulting someone else for doing something that you yourself do.
> >> : (IE, sexual desire for women) What's the word for that again?
> >> : Oh, yes.... hypocrite.
> >
> >Troll sounds more like it. But aah, what the hell.... =)
> >
> >> actually, the proper term would be "guy who never has a date". this
> >> reminds me of when a lesbian acquaintance of mine was hollered at in a
> >> bar that she was a muff diver. she pointed out to the guy that if he
> >> wasn't a muff diver then his gf must be pretty bored. i figure the same
> >> goes for fishlicker. if he really thinks of going down on a woman in
> >> such a negative light, he must be no fun at parties.
> >>
> >> Aimee the Magdalene (who licks fishlickers of either gender)
> >
> >How about fuzzbumpers? Ya like fuzzbumpers too? I'll bet that you
> >fall asleep every night dreaming about sharing a double-header with
> >Tori Anus.
> >
> Get off our newsgroup and take your troll friends with you.
> PhAntOm GirL
Go shave your armpits and maybe a MANLY MAN will take pity on you.
Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN
Norman Buchwald wrote:
> Tori is hardly for "whining" as you put it, and the feminist movement
> was never about "whining," anyway as it was originally set up.
> Anyway, it's not to maon about "status in life," it's to set up a
> consciousness of what history and our culture has dictated what women
> were. A big difference. She protests any type of system that puts
> control on any person, if you want to get a more direct political
> stance, personal view.
You fucking pantywaist. You think that this whiney SHIT is gonna get you
any PUSSY? Think again, my friend. Be a MANLY MAN like me and soon you
will get all the PUSSY you want! Chicks don't want to be appreciated for
their personality. They want COCK! And a MANLY MAN delivers it! If you
got a COCK, you got an OBLIGATION to be a MANLY MAN!
> We've had lots of discussion about the Tori vs. Kate issue on both
> rec.music.gaffa and rec.music.tori-amos, and we've come to the
> conclusion that the very striking difference of their poetry, and
> their differences in music style prove they're not as similar as they
> first seem.
Oh we have, HAVE WE? How much PUSSY do you get in your little discusson
sessions on rec.music.gaffa? The chicks you talk to there all go out
after they have logged out and they get fucked by MANLY MEN, such as I,
until they can't even think straight, any more.
> The Storm
The Interior DIckorator, is more like it
> Nothing's gonna stop me from floating
Yeah, just float away, fairy. That means more PUSSY for us MANLY MEN.
Phamos818
persinthia sed:
<Tell you what...next time you want to talk about the fine <art of
debating,
<don't bring any famous authors into it. Do you OWN <debating!
fuck off persinthia, go away, no one cares anymore. stop clogging our
newsgroup.
nehe...@anubis.amarna.net
In article <4qlp30$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, msma...@aol.com says...
>
>On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, nbuc...@ix.netcom.com (Norman Buchwald) penned:
>>Jeffrey Lea <wild...@mother.juno.net> wrote:
>>[snip]
>>Before flaming, please remember to remove all the headers. (I'm
>>sending this by crosspost to remember all the people on the other ngs,
>>to remember too). Argh. I think this is how "Pearl Jam Rules" and
>>"What's your favorite album of the 80s?" got started. Argh. This can
>>turn into a virus that never goes away.
Pearl Jam is a bunch of poseurs; Vedder is the worst. The best albun
of the 1980s was "The Queen Is Dead" by the Smiths. Just tryin to help.
>>The Storm
>
>Gentle reader,
>
>"Stormin' Norman." How....droll. Allow Miss Manners to remind you that
>the unwashed masses are long overdue for some lofty, erudite discourse on
>whether or not Tori Anus' womyn-lemmings indulge in carpetmunching, so to
>speak.
That's a fact, Missy. Now I don't mind if fat broads develop a taste for
hairpie because they realize they're never gonna get an opportunity to
take tube like a real woman. But teenyboppers are still impressionable.
The cute ones don't need this muff divin shit because they are hose monsters
in training. The ugly ones can do exercises and get plastic surgery and
shit. No call for turning them into rug chompers before their time, that's
what I say.
>She heartily recommends that one sit down, shut the hell up, and open
>oneself up to enlightenment from those who know better.
Let's just see if the General (mheh heh heh) catches a clue.
>Meow,
>
>Miss Manners
Doug Renner
Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN (dsk...@manly.man.org) wrote:
: Norman Buchwald wrote:
[SNIP!]
:some other people wrote:
[SNIP!]
I write the following three things.
1: Can the next few responders take 'co.general' out of the headers? It
has naught to do with it at this point in the arguement.
2: FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD, please take 'co.general' out of the
headers? :)
3: *IF* Tori Amos is a lesbian, can somebody get it on tape? Maybe I'm a
homophobe with a fear fetish. Maybe I'm a wannabe lesbian. Maybe I
like naked, attractive women.
Please take all aggressions, regressions, digressions, and
postgres(95)sions to email.
Jillian
In article <31CE85...@manly.man.org>, "Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN"
<dsk...@manly.man.org> wrote:
HEY DAN,
JUST CAUSE ALL THE LESBIANS YOU KNOW HAVE GOOD LOOKING GIRLFRIENDS AND YOU
DON'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND IS NO REASON TO BE BITTER!
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In article <31CE88...@manly.man.org>, "Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN"
<dsk...@manly.man.org> wrote:
<SNIP>
HEY DAVE
LESBIANS DON'T WANT YOU
STRAIGHT GIRLS DON'T WANT YOU
NOBODY WANTS YOU!
GO FIGURE
MAYBE IT'S YOU!
Randy J. Ray
In article <31CB17...@sixtus.popecom.com>, Rich Wilton <rw...@sixtus.popecom.com> writes:
> eRIK sWALLOW?!? wrote:
> > What the hell are you talking about, pray tell?
>
> Uh, like it says in the header? Do fuzzbumpers dig Tori Aanus or
> not?
First, in case nobody has ever tried to enlighten your sad life, purposefully
misspelling a person's name into a twisted pun is the lowest, most banal form
of attack, and demonstrates that you can find no other grounds by which to
dismiss them. Other relevant examples can be found in transcripts of speeches
given by Rep. Dick Armey, the Rev. Pat Robertson and most Ku Klux Klan rallies.
But to address the main point (barely visible under all the excrement floating
around it), Tori Amos does seem to have a higher percentage of gay, lesbian and
bisexual fans when compared to the estimates for the general U.S. population.
Many people have cited her frank statements about religious oppression, emotion-
al and psychological abuse from family, as well as a host of others, for the
reasons they find her music easy to relate to.
> > On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, T-Bone wrote:
> >
> > > her latest single "Toss Me That Box of Tuna Fish" would tend to indicate in
> > > the affirmative....
>
> Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
> that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> know what I mean.
Ah yes, the old "compare women's sexuality to dead fish" argument. That's
always been a sound, defensible argument. You twits.
Melissa Etheridge (see above remark about childish name-based puns) is in a
long-term monagamous relationship with a director/film-maker named Julie
Cypher. They were on the cover of "Out" magazine an issue or two back, in a
discussion of the issue of same-gender marriage, along with such other high-
profile same-gender couples as U.S. Rep. Barnet Frank and his partner. Though I
am sure you will refute the very idea, many gays and lesbians prefer steady,
monoagamous relationships. Not untirely unlike heterosexuals. And I fail to
see any relevance in the size of Melissa Etheridge's breasts, except that
trying to reduce women to little more than their sexual organs is another
popular, but baseless argument when a person has run out of real points to
debate.
Randy
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Elusis
In article <charles1D...@netcom.com>,
charles copeland <char...@netcom.com> wrote:
>I have heard Tori Amos music, and really like it.
>However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
>I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
It's a shame that a simple query has been smeared across every joke group
on Usenet to entertain the small-minded with.
If any male friends ever contemplate penis enlargement, I'll be sure to
tell them to save their money - turning simple posts into flame wars seems
to be much more effective and less costly. Or is it?
Charles, if your question was indeed asked out of curiosity rather than
hostility, I'm sorry that this flame thread is what it's turned into.
Elusis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ And my priest says, "You ain't savin' no souls..." + the voice of +
+ your eyes is deeper than all roses + Who you jivin' with that +
+ cosmik debris? + We're actors - we're the opposite of people! +
+ Theatre is life. Film is art. Television is furniture. + Time Warp +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Randy J. Ray
In article <31CBD3...@sixtus.popecom.com>, Rich Wilton <rw...@sixtus.popecom.com> writes:
>
> It is a known fact that Tori Aanus is dyke as all
> shit.
>
This will no doubt come as a suprise to Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails, as
well as Tori herself, since both acknowledged having been involved romantically
here within the last few years. Her long-time SO before that was someone named
Eric, who co-produced the "Under the Pink" album, and for whom she named one
of her songs, "Song For Eric".
Not to mention the Denver DJ I know who goes out with Ms. Amos when she is in
Denver. Lucky bastard even has a pic of the two of them together.
Le Revenant
Persinthia Lawdro (cow...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
[snip amateur rhetoric philosophy]
Um, actually I think bringing in various opinions from authorities is a
fine component of argumentation, provided it's not the sole one.
Aimee Lortskell
Persinthia Lawdro (cow...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
icarus supported his argument with:
: >"A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth." Aesop
: >
: >"Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but
: >is a stab at the health of human society." -Emerson
: >
: >"He that flings dirt at another, dirties himself the most." Thomas
: >Fuller, MD
: >
: >"Folk whose own behavior is most ridiculous are always to the fore in
: >slandering others." -Moliere
: You see, Icarus, if I may call you that...I don't have to quote a bunch of
: authors or doctors to get my point across. I'm secure enough to go by my own
: experience in life and not show off to the ENTIRE internet my book knowledge.
: Hey, that's great, you must be pretty proud of yourself knowing that people
: are going to read this and say 'Boy...you sure showed Persinthia who's the
: smart puppy'
i don't think he was showing off, he was actually illustrating his
point. obviously it made you feel inferior, but that's not his fault.
: See...you're talking about passing on my 'Elitist words of Wisdom' to others
: and all you can do is quote other people's writing. What's wrong, Iccy, are
: your own life experiences and 'words of wisom' so shallow that you have to
: hide behind 'quotes'????
are you so self-important that you can't learn from others' experiences
and thoughts as well as your own?
: Tell you what...next time you want to talk about the fine art of debating,
: don't bring any famous authors into it. Do you OWN debating!
obviously you're not really familiar with debate. using quotes from
others to illustrate and support your view is not only kosher, but
encouraged in debate. i thought he used them quite effectively. in that
light, it was then easier for you to dodge his actual point and attack
his perfectly legitimate tactic. but you'd be much more effective if you
could respond to the points he made.
note: some newsgroups snipped.
Aimee the Magdalene
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In article <31CE87...@manly.man.org>, "Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN"
<dsk...@manly.man.org> wrote:
DAVE! GET A LIFE ALREADY WILL YA!
--
Every Tool is a Weapon if You Hold it Right!- A.D
Screw the Whales, Save the Clits!
STOP COMPULSORY GENITAL MUTILATION NOW!!!!!
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Puppie to the Universe
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Karen, Goddess of the Groove
On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN wrote:
> Norman Buchwald wrote:
>
> > Tori is hardly for "whining" as you put it, and the feminist movement
> > was never about "whining," anyway as it was originally set up.
> > Anyway, it's not to maon about "status in life," it's to set up a
> > consciousness of what history and our culture has dictated what women
> > were. A big difference. She protests any type of system that puts
> > control on any person, if you want to get a more direct political
> > stance, personal view.
>
> You fucking pantywaist. You think that this whiney SHIT is gonna get you
> any PUSSY? Think again, my friend. Be a MANLY MAN like me and soon you
> will get all the PUSSY you want! Chicks don't want to be appreciated for
> their personality. They want COCK! And a MANLY MAN delivers it! If you
> got a COCK, you got an OBLIGATION to be a MANLY MAN!
A real man doesn't need to refer to women as "pussy". A real man doesn't
need to stick his dick into everything that has a hole. A real man
doesn't have to rely solely on his sexual performance to be any good to
society. A real man doesn't go around insulting people needlessly. A real
man treats women with respect and doesn't treat them like pieces of
flesh. A real man can carry on a conversation without insulting everyone
in sight? A real man can disagree about musical tastes and not beat
someone over the head with their opinions.
> > We've had lots of discussion about the Tori vs. Kate issue on both
> > rec.music.gaffa and rec.music.tori-amos, and we've come to the
> > conclusion that the very striking difference of their poetry, and
> > their differences in music style prove they're not as similar as they
> > first seem.
>
> Oh we have, HAVE WE? How much PUSSY do you get in your little discusson
> sessions on rec.music.gaffa? The chicks you talk to there all go out
> after they have logged out and they get fucked by MANLY MEN, such as I,
> until they can't even think straight, any more.
Why don't you crawl back under your rock?
> Yeah, just float away, fairy. That means more PUSSY for us MANLY MEN.
Nice, very nice.
BTW, nice flame directed at me. On a scale of 1-10, I give it a 4, only
'cause I got over jokes about weight way back in 7th grade.
Get a clue.
-Karen
***** kar...@iac.net ********************************************************
excuse me but can i be you for a while/can't forget the things you never said
and if there is a way to find you, i will find you
if you really want a challenge, just deal with yourself - tori amos
***** http://www.iac.net/~karenw ********************************************
Jesse Garon
tle-miami.iac.net>
"Karen, Goddess of the Groove" <kar...@iac.net> writes:
>On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN wrote:
>> You fucking pantywaist. You think that this whiney SHIT is gonna get you
>> any PUSSY? Think again, my friend. Be a MANLY MAN like me and soon you
>> will get all the PUSSY you want! Chicks don't want to be appreciated for
>> their personality. They want COCK! And a MANLY MAN delivers it! If you
>> got a COCK, you got an OBLIGATION to be a MANLY MAN!
>A real man doesn't need to refer to women as "pussy". A real man doesn't
>need to stick his dick into everything that has a hole. A real man
>doesn't have to rely solely on his sexual performance to be any good to
>society. A real man doesn't go around insulting people needlessly. A real
>man treats women with respect and doesn't treat them like pieces of
>flesh. A real man can carry on a conversation without insulting everyone
>in sight? A real man can disagree about musical tastes and not beat
>someone over the head with their opinions.
That's some right purty talkin' you're doing there, little lady, and I
just gotta say that I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying. As
perhaps the most real man on the USENET, it's my considered opinion that
you're downright clever. So, are you this clever in bed? I'm just asking.
Because, you know, you're a very clever little thing, and smart gals are
pretty darn attractive. Guys like a gal that's got a little something
between her ears, you know what I'm saying?
"Jesse Garon" is a product of:
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Norman Buchwald
"Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN" <dsk...@manly.man.org> wrote:
>Not bloody likely, until you lesbians fuck off and leave the babes to
>us MANLY MEN.
Uh . . . no. This is not one of my fictional characters' posts, I'm
afraid. Though I have trouble taking him seriously, not simply for
what he says, but I almost get a feeling this is "Waitress-inspired"
territory, don't you think? If not, he's either Hans or Franz in
disguise. :P
The Storm
Nothing's gonna stop me from floating
>
>> > Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too. Now
>> > that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
>> > cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
>> > know what I mean.
>>
>> Not only is this slanderous, but it's just tasteless. Why don't you find
>> something constructive to do with your time instead of trolling
>> newsgroups? Start by getting a clue.
>Melissa Ethridge is a stone fox. I know a MANLY MAN such as me could
>cure her lesbsianism in two half-hour appilcations of my patented HOT
>BEEF INJECTION. You can have Tory Amos and I will take Melissa. Deal?
>
>> -Karen
>By the way I visited your web page. I bet you gave that poor statue
>a HERNIA, not a WOODY like you said.
>Dave S. King
>A MAN'S MAN
Hanz and Franz
Hi. I am Hans.
And I am Franz.
And we are here to PUMP U UP!>>
>
"Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN" <dsk...@manly.man.org> wrote:
>Not bloody likely, until you lesbians fuck off and leave the babes to
>us MANLY MEN.
Oh really you're a manly man? Yah! Can you lift a sixteen foot
tracter with only one thumb? Hans can do that. But u little girly
man, just like to cut people on the net!
Yah! Only we manly men who work out everydai can do that.
Hey Hans. I bet Dave here has breasts underneath his ripped t-shirt.
Yah! That's no manly man. I bet he's never even gon to a jim!
>
>> > Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug too.
Hey, Melissa is a bit pumped up! I think you girly man is jelus!
>Melissa Ethridge is a stone fox. I know a MANLY MAN such as me could
>cure her lesbsianism in two half-hour appilcations of my patented HOT
>BEEF INJECTION. You can have Tory Amos and I will take Melissa. Deal?
>
Sounds like a girly man like you can only be into someone pumped as
her! I think he's really into manly men, huh Franz!
>By the way I visited your web page. I bet you gave that poor statue
>a HERNIA, not a WOODY like you said.
And plese keep your bad past sex ex . . . ex . . . ex
experience . . .
experience to yourself, girly man! Only girly men llike you use fake
emails and get off on crossposts where u can't be found!
Well, that's all the time we have for tuday.
I am hans.
No, I am hans!
Oh . . . and I am Franz!
And we are here to pump you up!
Hans and Franz
(Rates just as well as any SNL skit these days, huh?)
Haakon Lugiesson
Karen, Goddess of the Groove wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN wrote:
> > Norman Buchwald wrote:
> >
> > > Tori is hardly for "whining" as you put it, and the feminist movement
> > > was never about "whining," anyway as it was originally set up.
> > > Anyway, it's not to maon about "status in life," it's to set up a
> > > consciousness of what history and our culture has dictated what women
> > > were. A big difference. She protests any type of system that puts
> > > control on any person, if you want to get a more direct political
> > > stance, personal view.
> >
> > any PUSSY? Think again, my friend. Be a MANLY MAN like me and soon you
> > will get all the PUSSY you want! Chicks don't want to be appreciated for
> > their personality. They want COCK! And a MANLY MAN delivers it! If you
> > got a COCK, you got an OBLIGATION to be a MANLY MAN!
>
> A real man doesn't need to refer to women as "pussy". A real man doesn't
> need to stick his dick into everything that has a hole. A real man
> doesn't have to rely solely on his sexual performance to be any good to
> society. A real man doesn't go around insulting people needlessly. A real
> man treats women with respect and doesn't treat them like pieces of
> flesh. A real man can carry on a conversation without insulting everyone
> in sight? A real man can disagree about musical tastes and not beat
> someone over the head with their opinions.
Uh, yeah, so? What else does a real man do in your opinion, or is it
as they say, immaterial to a girl like you?
> > > We've had lots of discussion about the Tori vs. Kate issue on both
> > > rec.music.gaffa and rec.music.tori-amos, and we've come to the
> > > conclusion that the very striking difference of their poetry, and
> > > their differences in music style prove they're not as similar as they
> > > first seem.
> >
> > Oh we have, HAVE WE? How much PUSSY do you get in your little discusson
> > sessions on rec.music.gaffa? The chicks you talk to there all go out
> > after they have logged out and they get fucked by MANLY MEN, such as I,
> > until they can't even think straight, any more.
>
> Why don't you crawl back under your rock?
It was crudely put, but it is a known fact that the sort of sensitive
man you are talking about never does get any tail from the hot babes
because they are all fucking the thugs, and never gets tail from lesboes
like you, which is fine.
> > Yeah, just float away, fairy. That means more PUSSY for us MANLY MEN.
>
> Nice, very nice.
>
> BTW, nice flame directed at me. On a scale of 1-10, I give it a 4, only
> 'cause I got over jokes about weight way back in 7th grade.
I take it you are weight impaired?
> Get a clue.
Get on a diet.
> -Karen
Her Royal Nadness
On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Jillian wrote:
> HEY DAN,
> JUST CAUSE ALL THE LESBIANS YOU KNOW HAVE GOOD LOOKING GIRLFRIENDS AND YOU
> DON'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND IS NO REASON TO BE BITTER!
HEY JILLIAN,
JUST CAUSE YOUR KEYBOARD HAS A CAPS LOCK KEY IS NO REASON TO LEAVE IT
ON ALL THE TIME!
/nad
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Her Royal Nadness
> Not bloody likely, until you lesbians fuck off and leave the babes to
> us MANLY MEN.
**cough**
Excuse me? Does anyone else smell something here?
**sniffs the air**
Ohhhh . . . it's a troll!
> Melissa Ethridge is a stone fox. I know a MANLY MAN such as me could
> cure her lesbsianism in two half-hour appilcations of my patented HOT
> BEEF INJECTION. You can have Tory Amos and I will take Melissa. Deal?
Well, IMHO, a real man would never have to force a woman to sleep with
him. And I doubt that you could make someone as successful as Melissa
Etheridge sleep with something like you -> anyone who has to tell the
world that they're a "manly man" probably isn't.
Mardi Wetmore
To all of you posting to this thread...take it elsewhere. How about
alt.fans.abusive.posts. I don't think anyone on this newsgroup could possibly
think this has anything to do with cooking or food.
_____
Come visit my Low-Fat Lifestyle Forum home page. Lots of low-fat cooking and eating tips, cookbook recommendations and low-fat recipes.
http://www.lowfatlife.com/~mardiw/lowfat.htm
Haakon Lugiesson
pele wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Lea <wild...@mother.juno.net> wrote:
>
> >Icarus wrote:
> >>
> >> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> >> > >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> >> > >know what I mean.
> >> >
> >> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
> >> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
> >> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>
> Hey---you sound familiar...didn't I read some of your bullshit in
> Request magazine?? What you don't get is that Tori has talent and
> isn't afraid to be herself...not Kate Bush!!! I know who Kate Bush
> is, and their music doesn't even sound the same. You son of a
> motherless goat!!! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt
> of elderberries!!! I fart in your general direction. I hope someone
> kicks your ass some day. And all of that goes for that other person
> who insulted Tori a few spaces down,too. You both suck....each
> other...
Pretty good insults for a Brazilian soccer player, Senor Pele. Too
bad your taste in music sucks Magic Johnson's dick.
> >> You said it yourself...You "just don't get it". And if you don't
> >> understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
> >> to the other goober shows just how little you know.
>
> >And besides, so what if Tori Amos is a lesbian, anyway. She sure as shit
> >can't sing worth a fuck and she's ugly too. Maybe she can play the piano
> >some, but so can my old Aunt Gertrude. I'm not going to buy any of her
> >music no matter what. And if anybody doesn't like that, they shouldn't
> >buy any either.
>
> >> -icarus
> >> who just had to break the crossposting "rule" for this
>
> >- Jeffrey
> > (who figured that he might as well break the "rule" too)
Haakon
who doesn't need no stinking rules
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Elizabeth Watkins
In <31CDDB...@mother.juno.net> Jeffrey Lea
<wild...@mother.juno.net> writes:
>
>Icarus wrote:
>>
>> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
>> >
>> > >Well of course. I hear she mashes muff with Melezza Eatstherug
too. Now
>> > >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy
album
>> > >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos,
if you
>> > >know what I mean.
>> >
>> > That was TOO fucking funny! I'm still laughing (and I'm a girl). I
personally
>> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the
original
>> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for
her
>> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>>
>> understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your
response
>> to the other goober shows just how little you know.
>
>And besides, so what if Tori Amos is a lesbian, anyway. She sure as
shit
>can't sing worth a fuck and she's ugly too. Maybe she can play the
piano
>some, but so can my old Aunt Gertrude. I'm not going to buy any of
her
>music no matter what. And if anybody doesn't like that, they
shouldn't
>buy any either.
well, it seems like this is really appropriate for all the newsgroups
it was posted to. i think it was in very poor taste, and what the fuck
is wrong with lesbians? i personally love girlz, and i dont think that
tori is a kate bush ripoff, cos i dont like kate bush and i mean... yuk
dont step on other's opinions, i'm sure you dont see very many
aggressive tori-fan posts. i'm not saying to like her (even tho i
do!), i'm just saying, please post to appropriate ngs. GODDESS!!!
love and no no no...
Ri(O)TA...
xoxox
Smedley
Explain the significance of this to atheism?
Or don't, I don't care.
Karen, Goddess of the Groove
On 24 Jun 1996, 'Jesse Garon' wrote:
> "Karen, Goddess of the Groove" <kar...@iac.net> writes:
> >A real man doesn't need to refer to women as "pussy". A real man doesn't
> >need to stick his dick into everything that has a hole. A real man
> >doesn't have to rely solely on his sexual performance to be any good to
> >society. A real man doesn't go around insulting people needlessly. A real
> >man treats women with respect and doesn't treat them like pieces of
> >flesh. A real man can carry on a conversation without insulting everyone
> >in sight? A real man can disagree about musical tastes and not beat
> >someone over the head with their opinions.
>
> That's some right purty talkin' you're doing there, little lady, and I
> just gotta say that I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying. As
> perhaps the most real man on the USENET, it's my considered opinion that
> you're downright clever. So, are you this clever in bed? I'm just asking.
Ummm....are you serious? What does it matter if I'm clever bed? What does
that have to do with anything?
> Because, you know, you're a very clever little thing, and smart gals are
> pretty darn attractive. Guys like a gal that's got a little something
> between her ears, you know what I'm saying?
I'm really trying to figure out if you're *truly* complimenting me on my
post, or if you're just being a major sarcastic prick. If you indeed like
smart girls, then more power to you.
-Karen, really confused and feeling a bit defensive
Ken Tough
In article <31CE87...@manly.man.org>, "Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN"
<dsk...@manly.man.org> writes
>Norman Buchwald wrote:
>
>Oh we have, HAVE WE? How much PUSSY do you get in your little discusson
>sessions on rec.music.gaffa? The chicks you talk to there all go out
>after they have logged out and they get fucked by MANLY MEN, such as I,
>until they can't even think straight, any more.
Ahah! So you're the one that's turning them all gay, then.
--
Ken Tough
Norman Buchwald
Rich Wilton <rw...@sixtus.popecom.com> wrote:
[snip, but look at the header of this post): Newsgroups:
boulder.general,co.general,rec.music.tori-amos,alt.music.alternative,alt..flame,alt..fan..karl-malden..nose
This is the guy by the way who expanded the crosspost to alt.flame and
turned this into a real zoo, by the way.
I wonder if he's also the one who's posting to a particular nntp
server in Taiwan and posting underneath a particular pseudonym.
(Scott has informed me by the way that the "Manly Man" person is
probably not a rmta regular and his only purpose is to flame (probably
from alt.flame) Whether or not he is, we really got suckered into
this, didn't we? All we're doing is pissing people off (and I'm
equally guilty of this, and did so after I suggested we stop).
Special thanks to Scott Kenney for letting me know what he was able to
find. Let's get back to fun with all the posts here such as "Favorite
place to have sex" and "test," okay? :)
Donovan Chase (S)
In article <31CE85...@manly.man.org> "Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN -
> Not bloody likely, until you lesbians fuck off and leave the babes to
> us MANLY MEN.
> Melissa Ethridge is a stone fox. I know a MANLY MAN such as me could
> cure her lesbsianism in two half-hour appilcations of my patented HOT
>
> By the way I visited your web page. I bet you gave that poor statue
> a HERNIA, not a WOODY like you said.
>
> Dave S. King
> A MAN'S MAN
Dave...
It's really a shame that most people won't appreciate the fine sense
of irony you bring to Usenet. I'm sure that most will take you
seriously, and conclude that you're merely some undersexed man living
with his mother who hasn't had a sexual experience with anything other
than the produce aisle in the past ten years. But I, I think
I know better. You just doing a wonderful impression of the mythical
mysoganist guy, you don't really think any of that, do you? Surely
a wise and educated man like yourself doesn't think that "lesbianism"
is some sort of disease that needs a "cure"? No, if you didn't
approve of homosexuality, you surely wouldn't sign your posts
"A Man's Man" now, would you? Who is the lucky guy?
You see Dave, most people are going to ignore this most subtle brand
of humor. But I can appreciate you Dave. I know that you're a
compansionate, liberal-minded guy who detests the f***heads that
you so cleverly impersonate almost as much as I do.
Thank you Dave, I hope others will realize the service you do to
us all...
Sincerely,
Donovan Chase (dch...@binx.mbhs.edu)
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CyberBoy
In article <DCHASE.96J...@twiz.nist.gov>, dch...@nist.gov (Donovan Chase (S))
<4q958o$3...@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <4q9h8p$t...@peabody.colorado.edu>
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<31CE85...@manly.man.org> wrote:
>Dave...
>
>It's really a shame that most people won't appreciate the fine sense
>of irony you bring to Usenet. I'm sure that most will take you
>seriously, and conclude that you're merely some undersexed man living
>with his mother who hasn't had a sexual experience with anything other
>than the produce aisle in the past ten years. But I, I think
>I know better. You just doing a wonderful impression of the mythical
>mysoganist guy, you don't really think any of that, do you? Surely
>a wise and educated man like yourself doesn't think that "lesbianism"
>is some sort of disease that needs a "cure"? No, if you didn't
>approve of homosexuality, you surely wouldn't sign your posts
>"A Man's Man" now, would you? Who is the lucky guy?
>
>You see Dave, most people are going to ignore this most subtle brand
>of humor. But I can appreciate you Dave. I know that you're a
>compansionate, liberal-minded guy who detests the f***heads that
>you so cleverly impersonate almost as much as I do.
>
>Thank you Dave, I hope others will realize the service you do to
>us all...
-=-=-=-=-=-
Oh, I definitely realize and appreciate the service ;)
This thread is funny!
And a waste of bandwidth
Oh well
Farley Drexel Hatcher
In article <31CB17...@sixtus.popecom.com>
Rich Wilton <rw...@sixtus.popecom.com> writes:
>
>eRIK sWALLOW?!? wrote:
>>
>> What the hell are you talking about, pray tell?
>
>Uh, like it says in the header? Do fuzzbumpers dig Tori Aanus or
>not?
>
>Stick it up your ass, Jesse Helms!
>Ram it up your cunt, Anita!
> -- J. Biafra
>
>> On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, T-Bone wrote:
>>
>> > her latest single "Toss Me That Box of Tuna Fish" would tend to indicate in
>> > the affirmative....
>
>that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
>cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
>know what I mean.
-Val Kilmer in Willow (and yes, I'm not ashamed to admit that
Willow is one of my favorite flicks, although it's more for sentimental reasons
than for the brilliance, or lack thereof, of the film)
=========Samuel Johnston======spac...@vm.temple.edu====================
"I want a riot of joy, a bucket of love, and a huge vegetable
omlette, okay?"
-Maggie Estep
========================================================================
Stephanie Rendino
Le Revenant (dho...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: Stephanie Rendino (be...@CAM.ORG) wrote:
: : : He's also jealous of the fact that you can have an orgasm w/o a penis.
: : : Dan.
: : One after the other no less. And we can all ejaculate too, in theory.
: Hey, some of us are multi-orgasmic. ;) Female ejaculation: now
: that'd be an interesting and response-provoking thread.
Actually, you're right and I deserve to be spanked. My male partner and I
are currently working through a book of exercises meant to teach him to be
multi-orgasmic. I've had no luck with the female ejaculation though.
P.B. Dijkstra
Since I'm not a woman nor am I gay so what the hell are you shitting about.
Music is for everyone if you're gay, bi, hetero etc... It doesn't change
the surreal beauty of Toris music.....
PBD
T-Bone
Hanz and Franz wrote:
[extremely well done post deleted]
Funniest thing i've seen on the net in some time.
Makes the whole thing seem worthwhile...
TimW
Frodo Zero
> >>
> >> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> >> > >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> >> > >know what I mean.
> >> >
> >> > don't get this whole Tori Amos thing. She rips off Kate Bush (the original
> >> > Goddess) and has millions of girls creaming all over the place for her
> >> > faux-feminism-bullshit approach. I just don't get it.
>
> Request magazine?? What you don't get is that Tori has talent and
> isn't afraid to be herself...not Kate Bush!!! I know who Kate Bush
> is, and their music doesn't even sound the same. You son of a
> motherless goat!!! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt
> of elderberries!!! I fart in your general direction. I hope someone
> kicks your ass some day. And all of that goes for that other person
> who insulted Tori a few spaces down,too. You both suck....each
> other...
>
>
> >> understand something, you shouldn't pass judgement on it. Your response
> >> to the other goober shows just how little you know.
>
> >And besides, so what if Tori Amos is a lesbian, anyway. She sure as shit
> >can't sing worth a fuck and she's ugly too. Maybe she can play the piano
> >some, but so can my old Aunt Gertrude. I'm not going to buy any of her
> >music no matter what. And if anybody doesn't like that, they shouldn't
> >buy any either.
>
> >> who just had to break the crossposting "rule" for this
>
> >- Jeffrey
> > (who figured that he might as well break the "rule" too)
Goddammit why cross a French Monty-Python taunt into a Tori Amos flaming
in a FUCKING NIN NEWSGROUP? Oh well, no one ever talks about NIN in here
anyway. Not to insult Tori (lesbian.....).
Frodo Zero
Sebastian5
haakon said:
<Get on a diet.
FUUUUUCCCKK YOU!!! Get the fuck out of here and leave Karen alone! She is
not a "lesbo", I am not a "lesbo", Tori is not a "lesbo", and I don't CARE
about having a rational debate with you asswipes anymore: you are a
dickless fuck who hides behind some email name so you can go and make fun
of everyone else to avoid dealing with your own (hmmmmm) SHORTcomings, if
you know what I mean. The fact that you would DARE to send mail to
innocent people who have done NOTHING to you mocking them for their
musical preferences, sexual preferences, weight problems; even worse, that
you would subscribe to a NEWSGROUP meant just for that (alt.flame) shows
how little a human being you are. I think you need to go back to grade
school, where maybe your mindless insults will hold some meaning with
others with the maturity of a 6 year old.
...........................................................
WHAT SHE SAID: i smoke because i'm longing for an early death, and i have
to cling to something ... maybe every backwards thing looks like heaven
... i think twinkle's a nice word ... give me peace, love, and a hard cock
... i yearn for more than just your mind ... understand i'm not confused
... i envy you your ignorance i hear that it's bliss ... if i cry me river
of all my confessions would i drown in my shallow regret ... i turn
sideways to the sun and in a moment i am gone ...
MAGGIE T. MORRIS/Pham...@aol.com/Sebas...@aol.com
...........................................................
Jesse Garon
"Karen, Goddess of the Groove" <kar...@iac.net> writes:
>On 24 Jun 1996, 'Jesse Garon' wrote:
>> Because, you know, you're a very clever little thing, and smart gals are
>> pretty darn attractive. Guys like a gal that's got a little something
>> between her ears, you know what I'm saying?
>I'm really trying to figure out if you're *truly* complimenting me on my
>post, or if you're just being a major sarcastic prick. If you indeed like
>smart girls, then more power to you.
Awwww, come on, sugar, I'm infinite, got multitudes in me and all that. I
can be a major sarcastic prick AND truly compliment you on your post.
Hell, I got my own newsgroup. I can do damn near anything.
Hans Daunerschirdt
Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN wrote:
>
> Karen, Goddess of the Groove wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Rich Wilton wrote:
> >
> > > Uh, like it says in the header? Do fuzzbumpers dig Tori Aanus or
> > > not?
> >
>
> Not bloody likely, until you lesbians fuck off and leave the babes to
> us MANLY MEN.
>
> > > that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> > > know what I mean.
> >
> > Not only is this slanderous, but it's just tasteless. Why don't you find
> > something constructive to do with your time instead of trolling
> > newsgroups? Start by getting a clue.
>
> cure her lesbsianism in two half-hour appilcations of my patented HOT
>
>
> By the way I visited your web page. I bet you gave that poor statue
> a HERNIA, not a WOODY like you said.
>
> Dave S. King
> A MAN'S MAN
Boy, are you a swaggering dickhead. Do you also drive one of the four
wheel drive trucks with big tyres, also?
Hans Daunerschirdt
Elusis wrote:
>
> In article <charles1D...@netcom.com>,
> charles copeland <char...@netcom.com> wrote:
> >I have heard Tori Amos music, and really like it.
> >However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
> >I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
>
> It's a shame that a simple query has been smeared across every joke group
> on Usenet to entertain the small-minded with.
>
> If any male friends ever contemplate penis enlargement, I'll be sure to
> tell them to save their money - turning simple posts into flame wars seems
> to be much more effective and less costly. Or is it?
>
> Charles, if your question was indeed asked out of curiosity rather than
> hostility, I'm sorry that this flame thread is what it's turned into.
No apology is required for creating Usenet Performance Art. Gimme DADA.
Gimme DADA. Gimme DADA.
Hans Daunerschirdt
Dave S. King, A MAN'S MAN wrote:
>
>
> > Tori is hardly for "whining" as you put it, and the feminist movement
> > was never about "whining," anyway as it was originally set up.
> > Anyway, it's not to maon about "status in life," it's to set up a
> > consciousness of what history and our culture has dictated what women
> > were. A big difference. She protests any type of system that puts
> > control on any person, if you want to get a more direct political
> > stance, personal view.
>
> You fucking pantywaist. You think that this whiney SHIT is gonna get you
> any PUSSY? Think again, my friend. Be a MANLY MAN like me and soon you
> will get all the PUSSY you want! Chicks don't want to be appreciated for
> their personality. They want COCK! And a MANLY MAN delivers it! If you
> got a COCK, you got an OBLIGATION to be a MANLY MAN!
>
> > rec.music.gaffa and rec.music.tori-amos, and we've come to the
> > conclusion that the very striking difference of their poetry, and
> > their differences in music style prove they're not as similar as they
> > first seem.
>
> sessions on rec.music.gaffa? The chicks you talk to there all go out
> after they have logged out and they get fucked by MANLY MEN, such as I,
> until they can't even think straight, any more.
>
>
> The Interior DIckorator, is more like it
>
> > Nothing's gonna stop me from floating
>
>
> A MAN'S MAN
Just curious, when you are wooing a woman, dou you call her "pussy"
to her face, oh manly man?
Hans Daunerschirdt
Adam Christian Schwenk wrote:
> In article <31C8AF...@appeaser.net>,
> Wilton Neville Chamberlain <w...@appeaser.net> wrote:
> >Elusis wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <4q958o$3...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, Jane Waddell <j...@fc.hp.com> wrote:
> > > >charles copeland (char...@netcom.com) wrote:
> > > >: I have heard Tori Amos music, and really like it.
> > > >: However many of her lyrics seem to dwell on "man hate".
> > > >: I was wondering if the crowd attending her concerts are heavily lesbian?
> > > >
> > > >have anything against men, largely because they don't have to
> > > >sleep with them.
>
> >And the men no doubt look at all those rolls of Sapphic fat and say
> >"No hard feelings."
>
> That's a stereotypical view of lesbians. Tell me, how many
> lesbians do you know? I actually know quite a few, many of whom are
> beautiful. White heterosexual male, are we?? I'm sorry.
>
> > > >By that justification, it would seem that Tori's fans should
> > > >be hetero feminists.
>
> > > Many are. :> Both the men and the women.
> >
> >But a lot of them are a bunch of fishlickers and fudgepackers.
>
> At first I thought this was someone on rec.music.tori-amos being
> cute. But then I realized the crossposting and knew that this kind of
> post possibly originated from there. I mean, given the chance,
> especially on usenet, any closet case will be the first to post something
> like the above. Frigging breeder.
Where would you be if your parents were not frigging breeders? I wish your
parents had been a fag and a dyke.
> > > >However, most of the Tori fans that I know are men (boyfriend,
> > > >and several of his friends). And while I am hetero and consider
> > > >myself a feminist, I'm not a big Tori fan.
> > >
> > > Ah, but we can easily solve that with just a little help from the Tori
> > > Re-Education Center... <gets out butterfly net>
> >
> >Solve what? Her heterosexuality? Uck. You fuzzbumpers are all alike.
>
> And you kentucky rednecks are all the same yourselves...tell me,
> how many times have you bumped your sister??
What is a kentucky redneck? How many times have you "bumped" your brother, fag?
Hans Daunerschirdt
'Jesse Garon' wrote:
>
> "Karen, Goddess of the Groove" <kar...@iac.net> writes:
>
> >On 24 Jun 1996, 'Jesse Garon' wrote:
> >> Because, you know, you're a very clever little thing, and smart gals are
> >> pretty darn attractive. Guys like a gal that's got a little something
> >> between her ears, you know what I'm saying?
>
> >I'm really trying to figure out if you're *truly* complimenting me on my
> >post, or if you're just being a major sarcastic prick. If you indeed like
> >smart girls, then more power to you.
>
> Awwww, come on, sugar, I'm infinite, got multitudes in me and all that. I
> can be a major sarcastic prick AND truly compliment you on your post.
> Hell, I got my own newsgroup. I can do damn near anything.
Zoogz Rift (The Liquid Moamo) has his own newsgroup and he CAN do ANYTHING.
Hans Daunerschirdt
Frodo Zero wrote:
>
> pele wrote:
> >
> > Jeffrey Lea <wild...@mother.juno.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Icarus wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >that's a shame, because if you ever look at that Brave and Crazy album
> > >> > >cover, Melezza Eatstherug has some pretty good beefcake tomatos, if you
> > >> > >know what I mean.
> > >> >
Some peculiar form of Usenet performance art, vielleicht??