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THOMAS SHEILA MARIE

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Nov 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/14/95
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Good lordy. I just got this three-page warning about how stupid I'll
look and the massive social havok I'll wreak if I post to a newsgroup
and make like an idiot. I only WISH!! Perhaps it would deter the truly
lame...

At any rate, undaunted, I forge ahead. Hi MTB. Hi Greghewritesletters.
Yeah, I'm laying it on the line and actually making a post here.

For the masses who don't know me (and I do mean masses), I've been
reading rmta for almost a year through a gate to a smaller BBS network,
and for some reason can read and e-mail but not post. So now that I've
gotten my internet account at school working, I suppose it's time to
actually become a participant. Now if I could only figure out how the
threading works on this particular setup, so I didn't have to pick
through 970 messages to find the recent stuff.. <G> So if anybody
replies to this thread, and it takes me forever to respond, I'm probably
pummeling my monitor trying to dislodge this thread from the murk.

In ActualToriContent, I wanted to know if anything ever happened with the
proposed T-shirt???? 'Cos I would of course get one if a decision has
been reached.... If not, can we try to come to some sort of consensus
(perhaps a feat of monumental proportions these days, but one never
knows...) that'd be very nifty.

Not that the above provided great insight into the World o'Tori...

As far as introductory thingies, I'm getting my MA in Theatre at
UC-Boulder (hence the .edu), and writing my thesis on Annie Sprinkle,
performance artist and porn star (yeah, I'm a feminst, to become
topic-relevant for a moment). I've seen Tori 3 times live, and I have I
think 15 CDs at last count, plus 2 shirts, the infamous UTP tour
necklace, and a "hobby" BBS conveniently called Cloud on My Tongue.

Oh, how I would love to ramble on for hours about myself... Alas, dinner
calls, and I have to go whip up some wild-mushrooms-and-pasta before
trekking off to some dang rehearsal. Which I have to be at 'cos I'm the
director. Bleah.

Taking the liberty of sending out general higs and blackberry smaes on my
first post...

Sheila/Elusis
(working on a .sig thingy...)


Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:

> Good lordy. I just got this three-page warning about how stupid I'll
> look and the massive social havok I'll wreak if I post to a newsgroup
> and make like an idiot. I only WISH!! Perhaps it would deter the truly
> lame...

Hmm. Must have been nowhere fast (where IS she, anyway?), 'cause I know
*I* didn't tell you to stay away if you value your sanity. I think
you know by now why I would NEVER say that (I want everyone to be nuts
like me).



> At any rate, undaunted, I forge ahead. Hi MTB. Hi Greghewritesletters.
> Yeah, I'm laying it on the line and actually making a post here.

Hiya Elusis! Hey folks, this is that Elusis person (whose gender I got a
little mixed up at one time) I've been sorta working hard (when I thought
about it) to get to a good gateway so she could post on her BBS and get
the message out. Ah well, she found an alternate method. So here is a
hig and a box of smaes (and we know how rarely I give up both) and a
certificate verifying that the great Internet God(dess) has smiled upon
you by allowing you into rmt-a to post at last! Ah, and what the heck,
you are the new RMT-A PERSON OF THE WEEK for your many long months of
patience and effort in your attempts at getting two-way transmissions
going with rmt-a, and succeeding because you out-waited the mailer daemons.

> actually become a participant. Now if I could only figure out how the
> threading works on this particular setup, so I didn't have to pick
> through 970 messages to find the recent stuff.. <G> So if anybody
> replies to this thread, and it takes me forever to respond, I'm probably
> pummeling my monitor trying to dislodge this thread from the murk.

Oh dear. We can't have you hurting yourself... you just got here. Tell
us what reader you're using, and someone will be along to help you
shortly. Stay by your car, and keep the flares lighted so we can find you.
:)



> In ActualToriContent, I wanted to know if anything ever happened with the
> proposed T-shirt???? 'Cos I would of course get one if a decision has
> been reached.... If not, can we try to come to some sort of consensus
> (perhaps a feat of monumental proportions these days, but one never
> knows...) that'd be very nifty.

So glad you asked. I've been wondering that meself :)
Greghewritesletters? What's the status report?

> Not that the above provided great insight into the World o'Tori...

More insight than the Darrien Wars have given us of late. Welcome,
though you've been here.

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Aimee Lortskell

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Nov 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/18/95
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Robert the Faerie (rlwj...@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU) wrote:
[snip]
: But, anyway, if you use tin or rtin, it'll thread everything for you so
: that you can read only the ones that sound interesting. Tin is a pain to
: post in, though.

it is? i don't think so. you pansy-ass. :P

: Yeah! YEAH! What is going on with the t-shirt? I think it'd be cool to
: list all our names....and have pictures of tori everywhere.....and a lot
: of cool tori quotes....what's goin' on with this?

well, greg thought he might be interested in organizing it, and rantz
offered to make a design. beyond that, who knows? rantz and greg, is
there any planning around this or has it just faded away?

: Ah, well, it brings something very important to our attention....which I
: had been meaning to ask about.....how 'bout toricon? what are the plans
: with that?

shit, i dunno. that's something me and malkav were vaguely going to
maybe sort of kind of halfway get together.

but you fuckwits haven't given us any input. what are we looking for?
meeting at someone's house, trying to get a good deal at a hotel, what?
where and when? will we have memorabilia from the con, like 'i believe
in peace' nipple clamps?

help us, people!

Aimee the Whore

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/ i believe that one and one make two \
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Greg Burrell

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Nov 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/18/95
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Aimee Lortskell <ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu> wrote:
>> Yeah! YEAH! What is going on with the t-shirt?
> well, greg thought he might be interested in organizing it, and rantz
> offered to make a design. beyond that, who knows? rantz and greg, is
> there any planning around this or has it just faded away?

It has not faded away yet. I am still interested in
organizing it. The original posting didn't receive
very much interest. I think that's because it was
during the time when AudreyMoo was at the height of
her prolific output and my posting got lost amidst all
her stuff. Can we please keep THIS thread on-topic?

Perhaps we can disicuss the design now and then Rantz
can get to work on it. And then I'll collect money
and get them printed in January? It'd be nice to have
them done sooner but this is not a good time of year
for many people what with end of semester, Winter break,
and the general holiday madness.

So, I hereby propose a thread where we disscuss the
tee-shirt design. I, for one, vote NOT to put names
and pictures of "regulars". This is a shirt for all
r.m.t-a readers, both posters and lurkers alike. All
comments, suggestions, ideas are welcome!


-Greg
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Daniel Bradshaw

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Nov 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/18/95
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I agree with Greg that we shouldn't put pictures of the posters here on the
shirt. It seems too exclusionary. I had an idea...I don't know if it
would work, though. I was thinking of having a collage of Tori pictures on
the front, maybe arranged in a cross pattern. On the back, it would say
"The Church Of Tori-
The One True Faith...

Come and be baptised in the holy Hi-C!
rec.music.tori-amos"

Something like that, anyway...is this doable? Are we allowed to have
pictures of Tori herself? Do we even want that? Am I a three-headed
chipmunk?


--
Dan Bradshaw, Bull-Headed God of Fertility drea...@camelot.bradley.edu
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Ernest Rutherford

Aimee Lortskell

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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Greg Burrell (gr...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Aimee Lortskell <ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu> wrote:
: > well, greg thought he might be interested in organizing it, and rantz
: > offered to make a design. beyond that, who knows? rantz and greg, is
: > there any planning around this or has it just faded away?
[snip]
: So, I hereby propose a thread where we disscuss the
: tee-shirt design.

you got it. :)

: I, for one, vote NOT to put names


: and pictures of "regulars". This is a shirt for all
: r.m.t-a readers, both posters and lurkers alike. All
: comments, suggestions, ideas are welcome!

i agree with you. the shirt should be inclusive, and we'd be bound to
have to leave some people out, especially lurkers. i think we should
have a quote from tori somewhere on the shirt, and obviously have the
name of the ng on it somewhere. this will come in handy when tori tours
again for us to find eachother at concerts. :) hey, it's helped people
from a.m.n already - i know one woman who needed a ride home and found
one because some other NINnies were there in their heater shirts.

as for the quote....i'd like something sort of unknown. like a quote
from an interview or an obscure b-side. just to be original. i'm trying
to think of something clever. when i do, i'll post it. otherwise, what
does everyone else think?

Aimee the Whore

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* losing your faith is a lot like losing your virginity; *
* you don't realize how irritating it was 'til it's gone *
* - AEL (me) *
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Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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Daniel Bradshaw (drea...@camelot.bradley.edu) wrote:
>
> Come and be baptised in the holy Hi-C!
> rec.music.tori-amos"

HOT CHOCOLATE, silly muffin man. Hi-C is only the alternate (go see the
survival guide at the Web page).



> Something like that, anyway...is this doable? Are we allowed to have
> pictures of Tori herself? Do we even want that? Am I a three-headed
> chipmunk?

In order:
Could be, but may be very expensive
Good point, might be a licensing problem, if anyone would care
Why on earth would we want a picture of Tori? :)
Yes.

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Daniel Bradshaw

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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In <48m9p8$m...@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee Lortskell) writes:

>as for the quote....i'd like something sort of unknown. like a quote
>from an interview or an obscure b-side. just to be original. i'm trying
>to think of something clever. when i do, i'll post it. otherwise, what
>does everyone else think?

I gots an idea!

The perfect quote..."Fuck Annie!"


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Dan Bradshaw, Bull-Headed God of Fertility drea...@camelot.bradley.edu

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Charlie Dibe

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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In a previous article, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee Lortskell) says:

>: I, for one, vote NOT to put names
>: and pictures of "regulars". This is a shirt for all
>: r.m.t-a readers, both posters and lurkers alike. All
>: comments, suggestions, ideas are welcome!
>
>i agree with you. the shirt should be inclusive, and we'd be bound to
>have to leave some people out, especially lurkers. i think we should
>have a quote from tori somewhere on the shirt, and obviously have the
>name of the ng on it somewhere. this will come in handy when tori tours
>again for us to find eachother at concerts. :) hey, it's helped people
>from a.m.n already - i know one woman who needed a ride home and found
>one because some other NINnies were there in their heater shirts.
>

>as for the quote....i'd like something sort of unknown. like a quote
>from an interview or an obscure b-side. just to be original. i'm trying
>to think of something clever. when i do, i'll post it. otherwise, what
>does everyone else think?
>

>Aimee the Whore
Are we going to have a pcture of Tori on it? That would be nice. Maybe
we should vote on what color it's going to be (probably white). When the idea
of this shirt first came up I pictured it saying RMT-A in red letters on the
back of it. Then there would be something underneath that (I'm not sure what).
Thanks,
Charlie


--
"Animals are my friends and I don't eat my friends"
-George Bernard Shaw


NICK

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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the post listed as "the" is supposed to be
Re: the official shirt thread
sorry
n

C. Hoon

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Greg Burrell wrote:

> So, I hereby propose a thread where we disscuss the
> tee-shirt design.

i second that. :)

> I, for one, vote NOT to put names
> and pictures of "regulars". This is a shirt for all
> r.m.t-a readers, both posters and lurkers alike. All
> comments, suggestions, ideas are welcome!

um, i also don't think we should do a t-shirt with pix of regulars. it's
kinda elitist. cause the group *is* for lurkers, too.

and i think we should come up with a nifty saying.

like i live in teh outdoor house here on campus and this guy (he's real
nifty) though up the quote that's gonna go on the t-shirt. it says,
"outdoor house. where the women are strond and the men are good
looking." purty nifty if you ask me. :)

--Carrie


C. Hoon

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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On 18 Nov 1995, Daniel Bradshaw wrote:

> I agree with Greg that we shouldn't put pictures of the posters here on the
> shirt. It seems too exclusionary. I had an idea...I don't know if it
> would work, though. I was thinking of having a collage of Tori pictures on
> the front, maybe arranged in a cross pattern.

i like it so far. :)

> On the back, it would say
> "The Church Of Tori-
> The One True Faith...
>

> Come and be baptised in the holy Hi-C!
> rec.music.tori-amos"
>

> Something like that, anyway...is this doable? Are we allowed to have
> pictures of Tori herself? Do we even want that? Am I a three-headed
> chipmunk?

um, i dunno, maybe, yes, and definitely yes. :)

--Carrie
(who would help out, but isn't good at forced creativity)

C. Hoon

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, C. Hoon wrote:

> like i live in teh outdoor house here on campus and this guy (he's real
> nifty) though up the quote that's gonna go on the t-shirt. it says,
> "outdoor house. where the women are strond and the men are good
> looking." purty nifty if you ask me. :)

strong. i meant strong.

and i should also say that that's from garrison keillor's lake wobegone
days thingie, too, i think.

oh, and when we were voting on this there was this one guy who was
totally mystified. he goes, "wait! i think that's backwards, dan.
really. that's wrong. it should be the other way around, shouldn't
it?" and he was serious. :)

--Carrie

C. Hoon

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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On 18 Nov 1995, Aimee Lortskell wrote:

[t-shirt stuff]


> well, greg thought he might be interested in organizing it, and rantz
> offered to make a design. beyond that, who knows? rantz and greg, is
> there any planning around this or has it just faded away?

um, i want one. :)

and i'd be willing to pay, too. :P

> : Ah, well, it brings something very important to our attention....which I
> : had been meaning to ask about.....how 'bout toricon? what are the plans
> : with that?
>
> shit, i dunno. that's something me and malkav were vaguely going to
> maybe sort of kind of halfway get together.
>
> but you fuckwits haven't given us any input. what are we looking for?
> meeting at someone's house, trying to get a good deal at a hotel, what?
> where and when? will we have memorabilia from the con, like 'i believe
> in peace' nipple clamps?

i dunno... the only problem with this is money. see, i have none. :)

so... i think you all should go for it, try and have one, whatever, but
there's not really a lot i can do about it now.

--Carrie
(who's not a fuckwit, just *reeeaaaaly* poor)

Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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Greg Burrell (gr...@netcom.com) wrote:
> her stuff. Can we please keep THIS thread on-topic?

Okay. What's the topic? (ducking an running)



> Perhaps we can disicuss the design now and then Rantz
> can get to work on it. And then I'll collect money
> and get them printed in January? It'd be nice to have
> them done sooner but this is not a good time of year
> for many people what with end of semester, Winter break,
> and the general holiday madness.

There's an idea: make the shirts available on 1/23/96!

> So, I hereby propose a thread where we disscuss the

> tee-shirt design. I, for one, vote NOT to put names


> and pictures of "regulars". This is a shirt for all
> r.m.t-a readers, both posters and lurkers alike. All
> comments, suggestions, ideas are welcome!

I agree, for the same reason I don't mention any names in my Survival
Guide (btw, I'm always eager to her suggestions for modifications to
that, but put 'em in a different thred for now). Since we insist we are
not a clique, we should practice what we preach.

For ideas, though, I'd be interested in knowing whether Rantz had any in
mind. Since he's going to be the designer, he may already be thinking of
something. Since many of us are on student budcgets, we may want to keep
only a few colors in it rather than make it a four-color design. That
will keep cost and value down.

And to revive an earlier idea, I'd like to work out a way for this to
benefit RAINN, maybe finding a way to sell them at the shows on the
tour. Dunno what sort of arangement that would require in terms of
getting approval or whatever... may not be worth the trouble.

C. Hoon

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On 19 Nov 1995, Midnight Tree Bandit wrote:

> Daniel Bradshaw (drea...@camelot.bradley.edu) wrote:
> >
> > Come and be baptised in the holy Hi-C!
> > rec.music.tori-amos"
>

> HOT CHOCOLATE, silly muffin man. Hi-C is only the alternate (go see the
> survival guide at the Web page).

yeah yeah yeah!!

i like the way that sounds, "holy hot chocolate." :)

well, it tastes good, too. :)

--Carrie

Daniel Bradshaw

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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In <48ovik$8...@anarchy.io.com> mtba...@io.com (Midnight Tree Bandit) writes:

>Daniel Bradshaw (drea...@camelot.bradley.edu) wrote:
>> I gots an idea!
>> The perfect quote..."Fuck Annie!"

>Would be perfect, except that it could also lead to some serious
>misunderstandings, especially with regards to how some women may
>misinterpret the meaning when the wearer of the shirt is male.

Bandit...buddy...I was kidding. I know it wouldn't work (I get enough
strange looks about my "Bitchin" shirt...small chest...it isn't usually all
visible...) but it would be great. I like the "intelligent geeks" idea,
maybe coupled with Tori's quote about being "queen of the nerds."

--
Dan Bradshaw, Bull-Headed God of Fertility drea...@camelot.bradley.edu

Sex is a three-letter word which requires several old fashioned four-letter
words to convey its full meaning.

THOMAS SHEILA MARIE

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Nov 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/20/95
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In article <48bt1a$4...@anarchy.io.com>,

Midnight Tree Bandit <mtba...@io.com> wrote:
>THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
>> Good lordy. I just got this three-page warning about how stupid I'll
>> look and the massive social havok I'll wreak if I post to a newsgroup
>> and make like an idiot. I only WISH!! Perhaps it would deter the truly
>> lame...
>
>Hmm. Must have been nowhere fast (where IS she, anyway?), 'cause I know
>*I* didn't tell you to stay away if you value your sanity. I think
>you know by now why I would NEVER say that (I want everyone to be nuts
>like me).

Nope, just some stupid file that prints out when you reset your
newsreader-thingy. And every time I type F to post (F to post? Who
thought this up??) it warns me that this post will go out to thousands of
computers and cost big bucks to the net to send, so am I SURE I want to
do this... blah blah.

>> At any rate, undaunted, I forge ahead. Hi MTB. Hi Greghewritesletters.
>> Yeah, I'm laying it on the line and actually making a post here.
>
>Hiya Elusis! Hey folks, this is that Elusis person (whose gender I got a
>little mixed up at one time) I've been sorta working hard (when I thought
>about it) to get to a good gateway so she could post on her BBS and get
>the message out. Ah well, she found an alternate method. So here is a
>hig and a box of smaes (and we know how rarely I give up both) and a
>certificate verifying that the great Internet God(dess) has smiled upon
>you by allowing you into rmt-a to post at last! Ah, and what the heck,
>you are the new RMT-A PERSON OF THE WEEK for your many long months of
>patience and effort in your attempts at getting two-way transmissions
>going with rmt-a, and succeeding because you out-waited the mailer daemons.

YAAAAY! Wow, I'm a little breathless and stuff. <blush/grin> I'm still
skimming threads from WWIV to see what I want to spend time with here,
but now I've got this damn Internet habit...

>> actually become a participant. Now if I could only figure out how the
>> threading works on this particular setup, so I didn't have to pick
>> through 970 messages to find the recent stuff.. <G> So if anybody
>> replies to this thread, and it takes me forever to respond, I'm probably
>> pummeling my monitor trying to dislodge this thread from the murk.
>
>Oh dear. We can't have you hurting yourself... you just got here. Tell
>us what reader you're using, and someone will be along to help you
>shortly. Stay by your car, and keep the flares lighted so we can find you.
>:)

I'm using trn. I think I have the major commands down, but the threading
this is still sticky.... I'm using the spacebar mostly. And figuring
out what the little tree at the top means, though even when it says [2] I
don't usually get two messages....??? You didn't tell me this was way
harder than WWIV. Waaahh. ;>

>> Not that the above provided great insight into the World o'Tori...
>
>More insight than the Darrien Wars have given us of late. Welcome,
>though you've been here.

Thanksamucha. And thanks for taking the time with all my stupid "I can't
post through the WWIV gate!!" mail. :> Glad to finally be here.

Sheila/Elusis
(who finally took a stab at a .sig)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ "And my priest says, "You ain't savin' no souls..."" T. Amos +
+ "the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses" e.e. cummings +
+ "Ralph, are you eating the paste?" "Mnof Miffiv Hmoofer." Simpsons +
+ "Theatre is life. Film is art. Television is furniture." T-shirt +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

THOMAS SHEILA MARIE

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In article <48npii$l...@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>,

Charlie Dibe <gg...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu> wrote:
>In a previous article, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee Lortskell) says:
>>: I, for one, vote NOT to put names

>>: and pictures of "regulars". This is a shirt for all
>>: r.m.t-a readers, both posters and lurkers alike. All
>>: comments, suggestions, ideas are welcome!
>>
>>i agree with you. the shirt should be inclusive, and we'd be bound to
>>have to leave some people out, especially lurkers. i think we should
>>have a quote from tori somewhere on the shirt, and obviously have the
>>name of the ng on it somewhere. this will come in handy when tori tours
>>again for us to find eachother at concerts. :) hey, it's helped people
>>from a.m.n already - i know one woman who needed a ride home and found
>>one because some other NINnies were there in their heater shirts.
>>
>>as for the quote....i'd like something sort of unknown. like a quote
>>from an interview or an obscure b-side. just to be original. i'm trying
>>to think of something clever. when i do, i'll post it. otherwise, what
>>does everyone else think?

I'll look through my files and see what strikes me <whap>. Something
from a B-side would be awesome. Perhaps also her quote about
"intelligent geeks"?

> Are we going to have a pcture of Tori on it? That would be nice. Maybe
>we should vote on what color it's going to be (probably white). When the idea
>of this shirt first came up I pictured it saying RMT-A in red letters on the
>back of it. Then there would be something underneath that (I'm not sure what).

Oh, I vote for black. You can't wear colored bras under white, and
sometimes that's the only kind I have clean (like you all wanted to know
this...) But I like the rmta in red idea. :>

I vote for one of her drawings from the UTP songbook, if there's room.

Sheila/Elusis

Midnight Tree Bandit

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Daniel Bradshaw (drea...@camelot.bradley.edu) wrote:
> I gots an idea!
>
> The perfect quote..."Fuck Annie!"

Would be perfect, except that it could also lead to some serious
misunderstandings, especially with regards to how some women may
misinterpret the meaning when the wearer of the shirt is male.

-=><=-

sg0...@cnsvax.albany.edu

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In article <48m9p8$m...@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu>, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee Lortskell) writes:
>Greg Burrell (gr...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: Aimee Lortskell <ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu> wrote:
>: > well, greg thought he might be interested in organizing it, and rantz
>: > offered to make a design. beyond that, who knows? rantz and greg, is
>: > there any planning around this or has it just faded away?
>[snip]
>: So, I hereby propose a thread where we disscuss the
>: tee-shirt design.
>
>you got it. :)

>
>: I, for one, vote NOT to put names
>: and pictures of "regulars". This is a shirt for all
>: r.m.t-a readers, both posters and lurkers alike. All
>: comments, suggestions, ideas are welcome!
>
>i agree with you. the shirt should be inclusive, and we'd be bound to
>have to leave some people out, especially lurkers. i think we should

yes, i think it wouldnt be fair either...



>have a quote from tori somewhere on the shirt, and obviously have the
>name of the ng on it somewhere. this will come in handy when tori tours
>again for us to find eachother at concerts. :) hey, it's helped people
>from a.m.n already - i know one woman who needed a ride home and found
>one because some other NINnies were there in their heater shirts.
>
>as for the quote....i'd like something sort of unknown. like a quote
>from an interview or an obscure b-side. just to be original. i'm trying
>to think of something clever. when i do, i'll post it. otherwise, what
>does everyone else think?
>

>Aimee the Whore
>
i think these are good ideas...one vote from me (a semi-lurker)...

steph
:)

>--
>*--NINnie----BAAWA!----Toriphile------Crunchy PB Heretic--*
>* losing your faith is a lot like losing your virginity; *
>* you don't realize how irritating it was 'til it's gone *
>* - AEL (me) *
>*---------------------------------------------------------*

****************************************
* "I found the secret to life, *
* I'm ok when everything is not ok" *
* -Tori Amos *
****************************************

Norman Buchwald

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bjk...@landen.math.uwaterloo.ca (brian keron) wrote:

>In article <Pine.A32.3.91j.95111...@homer16.u.washington.edu>, "C. Hoon" <clh...@u.washington.edu> writes:
>> >
>> > HOT CHOCOLATE, silly muffin man. Hi-C is only the alternate (go see the
>> > survival guide at the Web page).
>>
>> yeah yeah yeah!!
>>
>> i like the way that sounds, "holy hot chocolate." :)
>
>heh. we like hot chocolate.. i used to have it all the time, as
>kind of a psychological ritual. i've since sworn off all drinks with
>caffeine in 'em, or loads of sugar, so this is no longer an option.
>
>oh well.
>
>`,b


Well, not every night and never in large doses. I've given up drinking
coke (I never liked coffee anyway) just so I can have chocolate from time
to time without getting headaches or stomach problems (as caffeine tends
to do to me). By the way, a great tip for all of you out there. Stop
buying those hot chocolate packets! Instead, do this:

Get a package of semi-sweet chips (or bits, or cut up a bittersweet
candybar).

Add desired amount (a handful, really) to one cup of milk (tastes great
in 1% fat milk). Whisk for a minute.

Microwave on MEDIUM HEAT for one and a half minutes.

Whisk for one minute again.

Microwave on MEDIUM HEAT for one and a half minute or until done.

Tastes like gourmet chocolate. Add whipped cream or marshmallows, spices
(cinnamon or nutmeg), air cookies, or your favorite liquer if you wish.

Save money, have first class hot chocolate with no fuss, and read rmta.
What could be better? (Unfortunately, at my father's office there's no
microwave I can use near by. :( )

The Storm

Is it my right . . . ?
>

brian keron

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Peter Caira

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On 19 Nov 1995, Midnight Tree Bandit wrote:

> HOT CHOCOLATE, silly muffin man. Hi-C is only the alternate (go see the
> survival guide at the Web page).

Just wondering, MTB....I'm a diabetic *and* a vegan (i don't eat meat,
poultry, or dairy) ...Hi-C is quite high in sugar, and hot chocolate is
high in dairy and sugar....so what do *I* get? (:

Peter Caira
ca...@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira

Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again


Peter Caira

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On 19 Nov 1995, Aimee Lortskell wrote:

> i agree with you. the shirt should be inclusive, and we'd be bound to
> have to leave some people out, especially lurkers. i think we should

> have a quote from tori somewhere on the shirt, and obviously have the
> name of the ng on it somewhere. this will come in handy when tori tours
> again for us to find eachother at concerts. :) hey, it's helped people
> from a.m.n already - i know one woman who needed a ride home and found
> one because some other NINnies were there in their heater shirts.

Very good point...Obviously, the name of the ng has got to be there...I
don't think names are appropriate for the same reason *unless* we have a
big thread asking for people's names/entries for the shirt...

> as for the quote....i'd like something sort of unknown. like a quote
> from an interview or an obscure b-side. just to be original. i'm trying
> to think of something clever. when i do, i'll post it. otherwise, what
> does everyone else think?

Obscure is always good...How about "I live for the nerd scene," or "All
the angels, and all the wizards black and white?"
Well, I can prolly think of something way better than that...but hey...I
just got my hair cut so gimme a break...

Peter Caira

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On 19 Nov 1995, Charlie Dibe wrote:

> Are we going to have a pcture of Tori on it? That would be nice. Maybe
> we should vote on what color it's going to be (probably white). When the idea
> of this shirt first came up I pictured it saying RMT-A in red letters on the
> back of it. Then there would be something underneath that (I'm not sure what).

Actually, now that you mention a picture, I've got a good idea:

First, check out the official rmta homepage
(http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira/rmta.html) and look at the new
graphic that Larry O'Toole made. It's quite wonderful, and if it
were modified for the shirt, I think it would look splendid! What do you
all think?

Peter Caira

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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Just thought of a couple good quotes for the shirt:

"butterflies don't belong in nets"
"maybe i'm the horizon you run to"

Rantz Hoseley

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In article <48jalp$o...@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu>, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee
Lortskell) wrote:


> well, greg thought he might be interested in organizing it, and rantz
> offered to make a design. beyond that, who knows? rantz and greg, is
> there any planning around this or has it just faded away?

Like I said, if someone takes care of the arraingments, I'll design the
sucker. Trust me, it WILL rock. But that's all I'll say other than
everyone will be represented.

--
Rantz A Hoseley

http://www.primenet.com/~rantz

Given all I had
Ain't much more to give
Stripped yourself bare
once again
like your daddy did

-Qualm

Rantz Hoseley

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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In article <48m149$m...@anarchy.io.com>, mtba...@io.com (Midnight Tree
Bandit) wrote:

> Daniel Bradshaw (drea...@camelot.bradley.edu) wrote:

Are we allowed to have
> > pictures of Tori herself? Do we even want that? Am I a three-headed
> > chipmunk?
>

> In order:
> Could be, but may be very expensive
> Good point, might be a licensing problem, if anyone would care
> Why on earth would we want a picture of Tori? :)
> Yes.

Yes, we can have photos of Tori and will, when I talk to her in the next
week or so, I'll see about if we can have them benefit RAINN in someway,
k?

--
Rantz A Hoseley

http://www.primenet.com/~rantz

You smart ass college fuck
you think you are so tall
I was just like you
More pride than you can know

you think you pity me
hey
I'll kick your ass if you pity me

I won't give in
I'm not like that

-Everclear

Rantz Hoseley

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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Hoon" <clh...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

> and i think we should come up with a nifty saying.

My thoughts on this, ok?

FRONT. Design with the initials R M T A encorped into the design.

BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
off-topic posts

thoughts?

Malkav

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the Goddess of Evil (ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu) wrote:

<about the shirt>

::as for the quote....i'd like something sort of unknown. like a quote

::from an interview or an obscure b-side. just to be original. i'm trying
::to think of something clever. when i do, i'll post it. otherwise, what
::does everyone else think?

as for quotes, i can't say...i don't have the money to buy the singles and
rare stuff...*but* i would like to say i love the idea of a shirt...
as for color, i'd kinda like to see a kinda dark burgandy...i just love
that color...
maybe a pict that rantz has...you know, something (with permission of
course) that hasn't been published or sumptin'
just a thought...
-the vampire bunny, who finnaly (with the help of two wonderful ComSci
majors) got his power book to properly dial in to the ND system!

--
* * * Kein Mitleid Fuer Die Mehrheit * * *
"Now everybody's under somebody's spell Write to me, please
unless they've already, gone to hell i'll give you a
in the streets, you can hear the people say cookie!
that, Zazoo, you should be locked away" -the Petshop Boys

Malkav

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Charlie Dibe (gg...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:


:: Are we going to have a pcture of Tori on it? That would be nice. Maybe
::we should vote on what color it's going to be (probably white). When the idea
::of this shirt first came up I pictured it saying RMT-A in red letters on the
::back of it. Then there would be something underneath that (I'm not sure what).

i like this...as for what is underneath [pauseasecondandlookhesitant]...we could
*perhaps* have the names of rmta'ers...both lurkers and non...most likely
the folks who are on the rmta web page (which is *really* cool, so go
there) would be the ideal list of names...i don't know...
-the vampire bunny

C. Hoon

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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On 21 Nov 1995, Malkav wrote:

> Sheila/Elusis (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
>
> ::Oh, I vote for black. You can't wear colored bras under white, and

> ::sometimes that's the only kind I have clean (like you all wanted to know
> ::this...) But I like the rmta in red idea. :>
>

> sure you can...weear colored bras under white...well...at least my friends do...

you most definitely can!!

you can even wear checkered bras under white shirts. just make it so
obvious it's a fashion statement. :)

--Carrie
(who makes lots of fashion statements when she does't have any more clean
clothes :) )

C. Hoon

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On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Peter Caira wrote:

> On 19 Nov 1995, Midnight Tree Bandit wrote:
>
> > HOT CHOCOLATE, silly muffin man. Hi-C is only the alternate (go see the
> > survival guide at the Web page).
>
> Just wondering, MTB....I'm a diabetic *and* a vegan (i don't eat meat,
> poultry, or dairy) ...Hi-C is quite high in sugar, and hot chocolate is
> high in dairy and sugar....so what do *I* get? (:

steam. :P

--Carrie

Greg Burrell

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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Rantz Hoseley <ra...@primenet.com> wrote:
> My thoughts on this, ok?
> FRONT. Design with the initials R M T A encorped into the design.

It would be Really Cool if the initials were done in
those red-hair letters like on the CD single cover.


> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
> off-topic posts

Ha, that's great! :)


-Greg ("he writes letters...")


PS. I still offer to organize the printing, money collection, and mailing.
--
___________________
|\ | |
_/ .`-| Greg Burrell | ,
\ .4 | ---------- |\__//
`--'\| gr...@netcom.com |`--'
C|__________________|

Malkav

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Sheila/Elusis (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:


::Oh, I vote for black. You can't wear colored bras under white, and
::sometimes that's the only kind I have clean (like you all wanted to know
::this...) But I like the rmta in red idea. :>

sure you can...weear colored bras under white...well...at least my friends do...

::I vote for one of her drawings from the UTP songbook, if there's room.

actually, this is a really cool idea...i like it...

C. Hoon

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On 20 Nov 1995, Scott Kenney wrote:

> : i dunno... the only problem with this is money. see, i have none. :)


> :
> : so... i think you all should go for it, try and have one, whatever, but
> : there's not really a lot i can do about it now.
>

> So maybe we'll arrange for a good old fashioned kidnapping :P

go for it. you're welcome to kidnap me at any time if you promise to
take me to a toricon. really. :)

--Carrie
(kidnapping is sounding good right about now, actually :) )

C. Hoon

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On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, brian keron wrote:

> heh. we like hot chocolate.. i used to have it all the time, as
> kind of a psychological ritual. i've since sworn off all drinks with
> caffeine in 'em, or loads of sugar, so this is no longer an option.

jeez, what is it with you people.... swearing off all this stuff.

sugar, caffeine and nicotine are *good*.

:P

--Carrie
(gimme a coke and a cigarette and i'm a happy camper... or a vanilla
latte and a cigarette :) )

Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
> >Hmm. Must have been nowhere fast (where IS she, anyway?), 'cause I know
> >*I* didn't tell you to stay away if you value your sanity. I think
> >you know by now why I would NEVER say that (I want everyone to be nuts
> >like me).
>
> Nope, just some stupid file that prints out when you reset your
> newsreader-thingy. And every time I type F to post (F to post? Who
> thought this up??) it warns me that this post will go out to thousands of
> computers and cost big bucks to the net to send, so am I SURE I want to
> do this... blah blah.

Tin does that to me now... "If you're using quotes yopu better make DAMN
SURE you trim out the unnecessary stuff because if you don't the entire
Internet will despise you and thing you're a total dimbulb if you
overquote and only leave a one-line answer, so make sure you only
included what you really really really really really really want." Only
Tin's version is longer.



> >you by allowing you into rmt-a to post at last! Ah, and what the heck,
> >you are the new RMT-A PERSON OF THE WEEK for your many long months of
> >patience and effort in your attempts at getting two-way transmissions
> >going with rmt-a, and succeeding because you out-waited the mailer daemons.
>
> YAAAAY! Wow, I'm a little breathless and stuff. <blush/grin> I'm still
> skimming threads from WWIV to see what I want to spend time with here,
> but now I've got this damn Internet habit...

Yeah, Internet is devious like that. Soon enough, you'll find yourself
checking in HERE first, then checking your BBS. And then when you
discover that you can set up a Web page on your account and find out how
easy HTML is, especially with a good editor, your BBS will fall woefully
out of date. I been there.



> >Oh dear. We can't have you hurting yourself... you just got here. Tell
> >us what reader you're using, and someone will be along to help you
> >shortly. Stay by your car, and keep the flares lighted so we can find you.
> >:)
>
> I'm using trn. I think I have the major commands down, but the threading
> this is still sticky.... I'm using the spacebar mostly. And figuring
> out what the little tree at the top means, though even when it says [2] I
> don't usually get two messages....??? You didn't tell me this was way
> harder than WWIV. Waaahh. ;>

You didn't ask :)
trn? Dunno that one. See if tin is available there. It's easier. Tree
at the top? Hmm, those must be my posts :)



> >More insight than the Darrien Wars have given us of late. Welcome,
> >though you've been here.
>
> Thanksamucha. And thanks for taking the time with all my stupid "I can't
> post through the WWIV gate!!" mail. :> Glad to finally be here.

No problem. Always glad to help another WWIV sysop and rmt-a'er in need.

Speaking of WWIV, are you still on my WWIVLink music sub (One Man's
Noise)? Some heretical dweeb from St. Louis named Feynman denouced
Tori's music as "sterile". The NERVE!

Michelle Barba Lisi

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In article <gregbDI...@netcom.com>,

Greg Burrell <gr...@netcom.com> wrote:

>Rantz Hoseley <ra...@primenet.com> wrote:

>> My thoughts on this, ok?
>> FRONT. Design with the initials R M T A encorped into the design.

> It would be Really Cool if the initials were done in
> those red-hair letters like on the CD single cover.

>> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
>> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
>> off-topic posts

> Ha, that's great! :)


i think there should be a collage on the front.. but not of tori
pictures.. there should be absolutely no tori pictures on the whole
thing, just a collage of different graphics, pictures, words (like hig
and smae) that are all related to the topics of the threads

then the back would be really awesome and would fit perfectly.

my two yen,

michelle


C. Hoon

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On 21 Nov 1995, Rantz Hoseley wrote:

> > and i think we should come up with a nifty saying.
>

> My thoughts on this, ok?
>
> FRONT. Design with the initials R M T A encorped into the design.
>

> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
> off-topic posts
>

> thoughts?

i like this one best of all so far. :)

--Carrie

Rantz Hoseley

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Nov 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/22/95
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In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.951120...@server.uwindsor.ca>,
Peter Caira <ca...@server.uwindsor.ca> wrote:

> On 19 Nov 1995, Charlie Dibe wrote:
>
> > Are we going to have a pcture of Tori on it? That would be nice. Maybe
> > we should vote on what color it's going to be (probably white). When
the idea
> > of this shirt first came up I pictured it saying RMT-A in red letters
on the
> > back of it. Then there would be something underneath that (I'm not
sure what).
>

> Actually, now that you mention a picture, I've got a good idea:
>
> First, check out the official rmta homepage
> (http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira/rmta.html) and look at the new
> graphic that Larry O'Toole made. It's quite wonderful, and if it
> were modified for the shirt, I think it would look splendid! What do you
> all think?

Well no offense to Larry (because he IS very talented and I love 'im
dearly) but if I'm doing the design, if you guys WANT me to, then, I'M
going to do the desing, call me a petty artist, but it's been a bad
season.

I've put off mentioning this but, what the hey.

They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production. So, I
actually have the TIME to do it.

Anyway, not to sound egocentric and all. If you guys (and gals) would
rather have something else, I'll defer.

Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/22/95
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I missed Rantz's post on this...

Greg Burrell (gr...@netcom.com) wrote:
> Rantz Hoseley <ra...@primenet.com> wrote:

> > My thoughts on this, ok?
> > FRONT. Design with the initials R M T A encorped into the design.
>

> It would be Really Cool if the initials were done in
> those red-hair letters like on the CD single cover.

Good one! I like it. But what will the rest of the front be? I kinda
like the adaptation of the cover of LE, with Tori in a computer monitor
instead of a box, but Cindy may not like that without getting a cut,
would she?

> > BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
> > with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
> > off-topic posts
>

> Ha, that's great! :)

I'll second that! I think that should definitely be the back. It would,
of course, be in courier font...

> PS. I still offer to organize the printing, money collection, and mailing.

Thought we'd already told you we thought that was a good idea...

Greg Burrell

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Nov 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/22/95
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Rantz Hoseley <ra...@primenet.com> wrote:
> They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production.

That sucks. Sorry to hear that, Rantz.


-Greg ("he writes letters...")

Greg Burrell

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Hi Everybody,

Rantz Hoseley <ra...@primenet.com> wrote:
> if I'm doing the design, if you guys WANT me to, then, I'M going to do
> the desing, call me a petty artist, but it's been a bad season.

> Anyway, not to sound egocentric and all. If you guys (and gals) would
> rather have something else, I'll defer.

I do want you to design the shirt, Rantz, and I know
you'll do something really cool. However, out of
principle I prefer that everybody has a say in the
design rather than you just going off and doing it all.
That's the great thing about this group and one of the
main reasons for the shirt - the sense of community
that we all have. As such, I think that the community
should design the shirt as well. Just my two cents.

Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/23/95
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C. Hoon (clh...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, brian keron wrote:
>
> > heh. we like hot chocolate.. i used to have it all the time, as
> > kind of a psychological ritual. i've since sworn off all drinks with
> > caffeine in 'em, or loads of sugar, so this is no longer an option.
>
> jeez, what is it with you people.... swearing off all this stuff.

They're just not true computer geeks. A true computer geek takes in
nothing BUT sugar, chocolate, caffeine, pizza, and nicotine (the five
basic food groups).



> sugar, caffeine and nicotine are *good*.

yep. Rice cakes and bran and granola are *baaaaaad*

> (gimme a coke and a cigarette and i'm a happy camper... or a vanilla
> latte and a cigarette :) )

-=><=-
(who's tempoorarily given up the nicotine part)
--

Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/23/95
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Rantz Hoseley (ra...@primenet.com) wrote:
> Yes, we can have photos of Tori and will, when I talk to her in the next
> week or so, I'll see about if we can have them benefit RAINN in someway,
> k?

Hey Rantz, have I mentioned this week what a k-rad k00l d00d you are this
week? Hm, no, I better not, or Darrien will send me more mail telling me
what an rmt-a suck-up I've become. And it realy matters to me what
Darriend thinks of me (oh, sorry Rantz, didn't mean to spill that
sarcasm on you).

BTW, does anyone know if RAINN is stil having financial trouble? I
remember someone posted something about thatthis summer.

-=><=-

Peter Caira

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Nov 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/24/95
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On 22 Nov 1995, Rantz Hoseley wrote:

> Well no offense to Larry (because he IS very talented and I love 'im

> dearly) but if I'm doing the design, if you guys WANT me to, then, I'M


> going to do the desing, call me a petty artist, but it's been a bad
> season.

Oh...sorry Rantz....didn't realize that you were going to design it...

> Anyway, not to sound egocentric and all. If you guys (and gals) would
> rather have something else, I'll defer.

Rantz, I wouldn't even have mentioned it if I knew you were going to do
it...I say let's have Rantz do it...

Roy A. Getting

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Peter Caira <ca...@server.uwindsor.ca> wrote:

>> HOT CHOCOLATE, silly muffin man. Hi-C is only the alternate (go see the
>> survival guide at the Web page).

>Just wondering, MTB....I'm a diabetic *and* a vegan (i don't eat meat,
>poultry, or dairy) ...Hi-C is quite high in sugar, and hot chocolate is
>high in dairy and sugar....so what do *I* get? (:

The ultimate rush when you mix them?

And for those of you wondering, I am thinking of becoming a carnivore
(a carnivarian sounds like I would belong in a side show). Seriously.


Kestrel
The Fairly Decent Dragon


Roy A. Getting

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ra...@primenet.com (Rantz Hoseley) wrote:

>My thoughts on this, ok?

>FRONT. Design with the initials R M T A encorped into the design.

>BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do


>with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
>off-topic posts

>thoughts?

I think Demi Moore wouldn't stand a chance in Salem.

I think Pamela Anderson and Christie Brinkley are ugly.

I think that Pat really is a hermaphrodite.

I think that I made a mistake in postponing the reading for my English
project, since it's due Friday.

I think that Batman: the Ultimate Evil is a little preachy, even
considering the subject matter.

I think that Al Franken is the last bastion of talent on SNL.

Roy A. Getting

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mic...@copland.udel.edu (Michelle Barba Lisi) wrote:

>i think there should be a collage on the front.. but not of tori
>pictures.. there should be absolutely no tori pictures on the whole
>thing, just a collage of different graphics, pictures, words (like hig
>and smae) that are all related to the topics of the threads

I think that we should arrange said collage and color it to look like
Tori.

>then the back would be really awesome and would fit perfectly.

>my two yen,

Expensive.

jenny finkel

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mtba...@io.com (Midnight Tree Bandit) wrote:
>They're just not true computer geeks. A true computer geek takes in
>nothing BUT sugar, chocolate, caffeine, pizza, and nicotine (the five
>basic food groups).

well then i guess im a true computer geek cos thats my diet exactly.

>> sugar, caffeine and nicotine are *good*.
>
>yep. Rice cakes and bran and granola are *baaaaaad*

well now im gonna have to disagree with you on this one. granola bars
are GOOD. but maybe thats cos i eat the cchocolate chip ones..

>(who's tempoorarily given up the nicotine part)

JENNY (whos temporarily given them up again AGAIN)


Robert the Faerie

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On 25 Nov 1995, jenny finkel wrote:

> mtba...@io.com (Midnight Tree Bandit) wrote:
> >They're just not true computer geeks. A true computer geek takes in
> >nothing BUT sugar, chocolate, caffeine, pizza, and nicotine (the five
> >basic food groups).
>
> well then i guess im a true computer geek cos thats my diet exactly.
>

Hey GEEK! :P



> >> sugar, caffeine and nicotine are *good*.
> >
> >yep. Rice cakes and bran and granola are *baaaaaad*
>
> well now im gonna have to disagree with you on this one. granola bars
> are GOOD. but maybe thats cos i eat the cchocolate chip ones..

[rob turns white] Why jenny, who COULD you! I can't believe you've gone
cannibal on us! Stop eating granola bars right this minute!

> >(who's tempoorarily given up the nicotine part)
>

> JENNY the granola (whos temporarily given them up again AGAIN)

Sniff, a cannibal in the worse degree!


Robert the Faerie

Larry O'Toole

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gr...@netcom.com (Greg Burrell) wrote:
> I do want you to design the shirt, Rantz, and I know
> you'll do something really cool. However, out of
> principle I prefer that everybody has a say in the
> design rather than you just going off and doing it all.

Then technically, you want Rantz to simply PRODUCE the shirt, NOT design it.

> That's the great thing about this group and one of the
> main reasons for the shirt - the sense of community
> that we all have. As such, I think that the community
> should design the shirt as well. Just my two cents.

An argument could be made for input from the community as far as content, but I
think in THIS community Rantz is the artist, and I have enough confidence in him
to creatively interpret what this group is all about ALL BY HIMSELF.

It might be more appropriate to ask him to offer a couple of designs, put them up
on his or Pete's site, and then let rmta'rs choose.

Artists have to be allowed to discover themselves for better or worse. When they
are asked to conform to what someone else thinks is popular or marketable, they
end up with lofty red hair, skin-tight leather snake pants, and thigh-high boots.

We don't want that to happen to anyone here...

Larry
(passing the conch shell back to Greg, or Jack or Piggy or whoever)


Michelle Barba Lisi

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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(mic...@copland.udel.edu [that's me!!] wrote stuff about making
a tori collage out of nothing to do with tori but everything to do with
the freds on this group)

and then Roy A. Getting <r...@airmail.net> wrote:

>I think that we should arrange said collage and color it to look like
>Tori.

and then i wrote:

yeah! cool notion..

two ducks,
michelle


THOMAS SHEILA MARIE

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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In article <48rs93$m...@anarchy.io.com>,

Midnight Tree Bandit <mtba...@io.com> wrote:
>Tin does that to me now... "If you're using quotes yopu better make DAMN
>SURE you trim out the unnecessary stuff because if you don't the entire
>Internet will despise you and thing you're a total dimbulb if you
>overquote and only leave a one-line answer, so make sure you only
>included what you really really really really really really want." Only
>Tin's version is longer.

One would think there would be a way to turn that off.... Nah, that
might be logical, even useful. Can't have stuff like THAT floating
around on servers... <G>

>Yeah, Internet is devious like that. Soon enough, you'll find yourself
>checking in HERE first, then checking your BBS. And then when you
>discover that you can set up a Web page on your account and find out how
>easy HTML is, especially with a good editor, your BBS will fall woefully
>out of date. I been there.

I've arrived home from a five-day trip to San Francisco, and so far I've
read my WWIV mail, gazed at my woeful dearth of Net mail, and come
straight here.

I'm thinking that before Jan.1, I'm gonna be buying a shiny new Mac and
perhaps subscribing to Compuserve (or Delphi or WELL? Thoughts?) for tax
purposes -- for my job, ya know. Once I have graphical browser
capability for the web, I'm probably a lost cause.

>Speaking of WWIV, are you still on my WWIVLink music sub (One Man's
>Noise)? Some heretical dweeb from St. Louis named Feynman denouced
>Tori's music as "sterile". The NERVE!

Yeah, I'm there. Not too much time for WWIV posts, and you're handling
him nicely thus far. I'll have to get over there and put my two cents in
soon, though. ;>

Sheila/Elusis

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ "And my priest says, "You ain't savin' no souls..."" T. Amos +
+ "the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses" e.e. cummings +
+ "Ralph, are you eating the paste?" "Mnof Miffiv Hmoofer." Simpsons +
+ "Theatre is life. Film is art. Television is furniture." T-shirt +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

THOMAS SHEILA MARIE

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In article <Pine.A32.3.91j.95112...@homer09.u.washington.edu>,

>On 21 Nov 1995, Rantz Hoseley wrote:
>
>> > and i think we should come up with a nifty saying.
>>
>> My thoughts on this, ok?
>> FRONT. Design with the initials R M T A encorped into the design.

I like this idea a lot. I also like the collage-of-threads concept. :>

>> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
>> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
>> off-topic posts
>> thoughts?

Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>

Aimee Lortskell

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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Midnight Tree Bandit (mtba...@io.com) wrote:
: Hey Rantz, have I mentioned this week what a k-rad k00l d00d you are this
: week? Hm, no, I better not, or Darrien will send me more mail telling me
: what an rmt-a suck-up I've become. And it realy matters to me what
: Darriend thinks of me (oh, sorry Rantz, didn't mean to spill that
: sarcasm on you).

aw, yer makin' him feel bad! what if he hasn't gotten any hate mail form
darrien - he'll feel left out! s'ok, rantz, darrien thinks you're a
suck-up, too. really. in order to avoid being a suck-up in the future,
you should tell everyone about how much tori really DESPISES this
ng....and how she hates me in particular. it will make darrien feel all
warm and squishy inside, and i KNOW you're just dying for his approval.

Aimee the Whore (that sarcasm stuff is contagious!)

--
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
^ we all had delusions in our head ^
^ we all had our minds made up for us ^
^ we had to believe in something ^
^ ...so we did ^
^ - Alanis Morissette ^
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Roy A. Getting

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca (JOUR/F94) wrote:

>: > They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production.

>: That sucks. Sorry to hear that, Rantz.

>Fuck.. agreed... that sucks. Any chance whatsoever somebody else may
>pick it up?

Better yet, what are the names, phone numbers, addresses, and familial
stati of the people that canned it?

Lucretia

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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jenny finkel <fin...@intac.com> wrote:

>thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu (THOMAS SHEILA MARIE) wrote:
>>>> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
>>>> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
>>>> off-topic posts
>>>> thoughts?
>>
>>Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
>>I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
>>already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
>>Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>

>well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
>bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
>change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
>off.
> JENNY

Exactly! Great for the family reunions!

Lucretia


by starlight i know you, as lovely as a wish granted true
my life has been empty, my life has been untrue
and does she really kow, who i really am?
does she really know me at last... - SP


Markku Kolkka

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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>>>>> "Greg" == Greg Burrell <gr...@netcom.com> writes:
> I do want you to design the shirt, Rantz, and I know you'll do
> something really cool. However, out of principle I prefer that
> everybody has a say in the design rather than you just going off
> and doing it all.
That "everybody has a say in the design" thing was attempted on
rec.music.gaffa/Love-Hounds, and all that resulted was a lot of wasted
Net bandwith. Then someone just went off and did it all and we got our
shirts!

You just can't do creative work by committees and votes.

--
Markku Kolkka
mk5...@cc.tut.fi

jenny finkel

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JOUR/F94

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THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:

: Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos

: I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
: already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?

What, you mean how they think that a bunch of us are jadded and will not
stand for the shit world they want to impose on us? How self expression
is so blatent? How angst and rage are apparent? How the Young
Republicans just don't have the following they used to? How those of us
born without the silver spoon are gonna try and eat anyways????

They're not being critical, they're just being observant.

Fuck 'em.

=-Pierre...ranting and raving and more ranting.
--
****************************************************Pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca***
Pierre Becquey If IgNOrAncE iS bLiSS
Ryerson Polytechnic University THen kNoCK tHE SMiLe OfF mY FAcE!
Toronto, Canada eh!!! -Rage Against The Machine

JOUR/F94

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jenny finkel (fin...@intac.com) wrote:

: well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a

: bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
: change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
: off.

I'd just like to point out that that's MY twinkie. <higstojenny>

=-Pierre

JOUR/F94

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Aimee Lortskell (ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu) wrote:

: aw, yer makin' him feel bad! what if he hasn't gotten any hate mail form

: darrien - he'll feel left out! s'ok, rantz, darrien thinks you're a
: suck-up, too. really. in order to avoid being a suck-up in the future,
: you should tell everyone about how much tori really DESPISES this
: ng....and how she hates me in particular. it will make darrien feel all
: warm and squishy inside, and i KNOW you're just dying for his approval.

: Aimee the Whore (that sarcasm stuff is contagious!)

Reads.... rereads... rereads again...

Okay... I give up.. where's the sarcasm?

=-Pierre... oh, there it is...

Shalon Dale Wood

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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Lucretia (JEH...@SUNBELT.NET) wrote:
: jenny finkel <fin...@intac.com> wrote:

: >thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu (THOMAS SHEILA MARIE) wrote:
: >>>> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
: >>>> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
: >>>> off-topic posts
: >>>> thoughts?

: >>


: >>Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
: >>I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
: >>already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?

: >>Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>

: >well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
: >bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
: >change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
: >off.

: > JENNY

: Exactly! Great for the family reunions!

: Lucretia

Besides, wouldn't be kinda hypocritical of *this* newsgroup especially to changethe wording like that? I mean, this *is* r.m.*TORI_AMOS*.........

dstar
sd...@uno.edu
sw...@cs.uno.edu


Rantz A. Hoseley

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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In article <4911jg$38...@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca>, pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca
(JOUR/F94) wrote:

> Greg Burrell (gr...@netcom.com) wrote:


> : Rantz Hoseley <ra...@primenet.com> wrote:
> : > They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production.
>
> : That sucks. Sorry to hear that, Rantz.
>
> Fuck.. agreed... that sucks. Any chance whatsoever somebody else may
> pick it up?

Ummmmm, possible. Discussions are happening, but who knows. I would LIKE
all the effort not to be for naught, and I feel really good about the
project, but we'll have to wait and see. I'll keep everyone informed.

--
_____________________________________________________________________
-Rantz A. Hoseley (also at Bauwo...@aol.com and some compuserve address he can't remember right now...)

http://www.primenet.com/~rantz/

"In the the darkest hole
You'd be well-advised
Not to plan my funeral
Before the body dies"

- A.I.C.

jenny finkel

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pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca (JOUR/F94) wrote:

>jenny finkel (fin...@intac.com) wrote:
>
>: well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
>: bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
>: change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
>: off.
>
>I'd just like to point out that that's MY twinkie. <higstojenny>

um, uh, yeah and id like to point out that since im his twinkie hes MY
twinkie too. so higs right bacck at you pierre.
JENNY (who had another blast from the past today (the other was a few
days ago when this kid who used to live down the street like seven or
eight ears ago (but he was my brothers friend) dropped by. last time i
saw him he was in elementary school and now hes like in college.) when
someone she went to school with four years ago showed up in school today
(i moved and then last year i think he switcjed schools and then i
moved back and now hes back). plus im really impressed cos he seems to
be the only person i know who has managed to get a reputation (no, not
that kind of reputation) as bad as ive had and who seems to be able to
manage a level of unpopularuty equaled only to my own. plus im pretty
sure i have his old locker. well im sure you all didnt really care about
this, but i felt like sharing anyway so :P)


Aimee Lortskell

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Lucretia (JEH...@SUNBELT.NET) wrote:
: jenny finkel <fin...@intac.com> wrote:
: >thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu (THOMAS SHEILA MARIE) wrote:
: >>Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
: >>I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
: >>already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
: >>Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>

: >well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a

: >bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
: >change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
: >off.

absofuckinglutely. if adults want to run around thinking everyone
younger than them is a beavis and butthead clone, there's nothing we can
do about it. fuck 'em, right? they're gonna think it anyway. might as
well disturb them further. i think the word fuck should be featured
prominently on the shirt.

: Exactly! Great for the family reunions!

heh. oh, you bet. especially. speaking of which, my family is
discovering the net. my sister raised her eyebrows at me and said,
"aimee the whore?!" well, i tried to warn 'em. they knew i was weird.

Aimee the Whore
(official member of the why the fuck do we
need to label generations anyway generation,
the fist me i'm trent generation, the don't
make me kick your ass generation, and the
fucking off in there generation)

--
*--NINnie----BAAWA!----Toriphile------Crunchy PB Heretic--*
* losing your faith is a lot like losing your virginity; *
* you don't realize how irritating it was 'til it's gone *
* - AEL (me) *
*---------------------------------------------------------*

JOUR/F94

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Kestrel the indecent Dragon (r...@airmail.net) wrote:
: pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca (JOUR/F94) wrote:

: >: > They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production.

: >Fuck.. agreed... that sucks. Any chance whatsoever somebody else may
: >pick it up?

: Better yet, what are the names, phone numbers, addresses, and familial


: stati of the people that canned it?

Kay, here's the deal... we break into their houses, tie down the entire
family, force their eyes open (a-la-brainwashing-session) and make them
watch Tony Little and Richard Simmons commercials... if it don't work, we
break out JoJo's Psychic Allience and Sally Struthers!

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

=-Pierre... of Cayden and Kestrel's Retribution And General Mayhem Co.

Chris

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ra...@primenet.com (Rantz Hoseley) wrote:
>In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.951120...@server.uwindsor.ca>,
>Peter Caira <ca...@server.uwindsor.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 19 Nov 1995, Charlie Dibe wrote:
>>
>> > Are we going to have a pcture of Tori on it? That would be nice. Maybe
>> > we should vote on what color it's going to be (probably white). When
>the idea
>> > of this shirt first came up I pictured it saying RMT-A in red letters
>on the
>> > back of it. Then there would be something underneath that (I'm not
>sure what).

Since I haven't been on RMTA for months now, I thought it would be wise to
jump right back in. I have a brilliant<?> Idea for the back of the shirt:
under the RMTA thingy put a huge list of all the regulars, lurkers, and
others who have come to enjoy RMTA for it's worth. _OR_ a big ad for
Clamstar digital rectal imaging would be nice.

Daniel Bradshaw

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In <49bmg9$i...@server.iadfw.net> r...@airmail.net (Roy A. Getting) writes:

>pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca (JOUR/F94) wrote:

>>: > They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production.

>Better yet, what are the names, phone numbers, addresses, and familial
>stati of the people that canned it?

(Dan does his best stereotypical Italian gangster voice)
Their mothers are dead!
Their sisters...dead!
They got dogs? Dead!


--
Dan Bradshaw, Bull-Headed God of Fertility drea...@camelot.bradley.edu
This sig was filmed in front of a live television audience.
Well, alright, so SOME of them were dead.....

Daniel Bradshaw

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In <49chlr$h...@bes.icis.on.ca> Chris <cslo...@icis.on.ca> writes:

>Since I haven't been on RMTA for months now, I thought it would be wise to
>jump right back in. I have a brilliant<?> Idea for the back of the shirt:
>under the RMTA thingy put a huge list of all the regulars, lurkers, and
>others who have come to enjoy RMTA for it's worth.

A potentially good idea, but I'm afraid that such a list would be
impossible to compile, and people would surely be left out, and everything
would suck.

_OR_ a big ad for
>Clamstar digital rectal imaging would be nice.

Cool! Corporate sponsorship!
Just as long as we don't include any actual digital rectal images....that
could cause problems...."Hey, what's that on your shirt?"....

Norman Buchwald

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jenny finkel <fin...@intac.com> wrote:
>thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu (THOMAS SHEILA MARIE) wrote:
>>>> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
>>>> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
>>>> off-topic posts
>>>> thoughts?
>>
>>Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
>>I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
>>already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
>>Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>
>
>well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
>bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
>change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
>off.
> JENNY
>

You have to realize, Jenny, Sheila's from Colorado. :) I remember a
couple of years ago, when I was in Fort Collins, I was looking for a
couple of movies to rent, and Blockbuster was running its promos,
censored. (Promos, censored. Have you ever heard of that?) They were
advertising "Sister Act." Here's what they censored.

Whoopi telling the Mother Superior: It's going to be [bleep]. . .

Mother Superior: Tell me about it.

(Whoopi and the Sisters talking about singing)

Sister 1: It's better than ice cream

Sister 2: It's better than (I forget the line)

Whoopi: It's better than [bleep] . . . or so I heard.


Now how lame can you get? I heard a couple of five-year olds laughing at
that advertisement. But you see. We're being "protected." That's why
MTV's Sex documentaries, even shown late at night, usually happen at a
time where the cable of that area somehow breaks down and becomes
scrambled (and only on that channel). Or the cable network decides to
preempt parts of the documentary with local commercials. It happened on
CNN once, too, when Jane Fonda was being interviewed. Ever notice that,
Robert? I did call and complain to a taped machine once. Nothing ever
came of it, of course. And they always told me that they can't carry
Comedy Central because they can only carry a certain number of channels
or whatever. Of course, this is a state that preempts prime time
television for religious shows (most often Billy Graham). Have they
switched the network stations, yet, by the way? :) That must be
confusing!


The Storm

'Cause sometimes I said sometimes
I hear my voice
I hear my voice, I hear my voice


Greg Burrell

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Hi Everybody,

Larry O'Toole <lot...@ssnet.com> wrote:


>gr...@netcom.com (Greg Burrell) wrote:
>> I do want you to design the shirt, Rantz, and I know you'll do
>> something really cool. However, out of principle I prefer that
>> everybody has a say in the design rather than you just going off
>> and doing it all.

> Then technically, you want Rantz to simply PRODUCE the shirt, NOT design it.

Actually, I *do* want Rantz to design the shirt. I've
seen newsgroups and mailing lists try to design shirts
and the thread drags on forever and nothing gets done.
There are times and places for the democratic process
and tee-shirt designing isn't one of them. :)


> but I think in THIS community Rantz is the artist,

I am sure there are others in this newsgroup who would
consider themselves artists as well. Perhaps they
haven't enjoyed the success of Rantz but does that make
their artistic opinions any less valid? My objection
is to being told (perhaps not in so many words) "you're
not an artist therefore your opinion doesn't count".
We don't all get a say in OUR shirt?! Of course if
anybody doesn't like it then they don't have to buy it.
But I know others would also like to have a little more
creative input. Look at the threads we've had here,
people are contributing good ideas. However, see the
previous paragraph.


> Artists have to be allowed to discover themselves for better or worse.

With all due respect, the intent of this is not for
some artist to discover him or herself. Rather, it
is to produce a tee-shirt that we ALL like and enjoy.
In any event, the feeling I've received (non-posting)
is that others agree but nobody wants to offend Rantz.

But like I said previously, I know Rantz will do
something good and at least it will get done so the
point is moot.

-Greg ("he writes letters...")
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Rantz Hoseley (ra...@primenet.com) wrote:
> Well no offense to Larry (because he IS very talented and I love 'im
> dearly) but if I'm doing the design, if you guys WANT me to, then, I'M
> going to do the desing, call me a petty artist, but it's been a bad
> season.

That's not being a petty artists. It's being an artist. I mean,
if we were to use someone else's design, what would we need you for? :)

> They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production. So, I
> actually have the TIME to do it.

Sucks, man. Why? Has the movie been canceled? The only reason I could
think of... How often does this sort of thing happen?

-=><=-

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JOUR/F94

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Rantz A. Hoseley (Rantz....@aimla.com) wrote:
: In article <4911jg$38...@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca>, pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca

: (JOUR/F94) wrote:

: > Fuck.. agreed... that sucks. Any chance whatsoever somebody else may
: > pick it up?

: Ummmmm, possible. Discussions are happening, but who knows. I would LIKE


: all the effort not to be for naught, and I feel really good about the
: project, but we'll have to wait and see. I'll keep everyone informed.

In the meantime, we'll burn some insence, chant mantras and sacrifice a
coupla virgins.

Oh, and maybe we should also do something for Rantz while we're at it. <g>

=-Pierre...who wishes Rantz all the luck in the world (ya, like he ain't
lucky enough to know Tori already... but he's cool, he can have more luck)

Rantz Hoseley

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In article <491023$n...@anarchy.io.com>, mtba...@io.com (Midnight Tree
Bandit) wrote:

> Rantz Hoseley (ra...@primenet.com) wrote:
> > Yes, we can have photos of Tori and will, when I talk to her in the next
> > week or so, I'll see about if we can have them benefit RAINN in someway,
> > k?


>
> Hey Rantz, have I mentioned this week what a k-rad k00l d00d you are this
> week? Hm, no, I better not, or Darrien will send me more mail telling me
> what an rmt-a suck-up I've become. And it realy matters to me what
> Darriend thinks of me (oh, sorry Rantz, didn't mean to spill that
> sarcasm on you).

Well MTB, you ARE a suck-up, but THAT my friend, is how we LIKE you! <G>

> BTW, does anyone know if RAINN is stil having financial trouble? I
> remember someone posted something about thatthis summer.
>
I have no idea

--
Rantz A Hoseley

http://www.primenet.com/~rantz

You smart ass college fuck
you think you are so tall
I was just like you
More pride than you can know

you think you pity me
hey
I'll kick your ass if you pity me

I won't give in
I'm not like that

-Everclear

Andrew Onifer

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In article <49de7h$q...@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu>,
ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee Lortskell) wrote:

(having swear words on shirts)


>: Exactly! Great for the family reunions!
>
>heh. oh, you bet. especially. speaking of which, my family is
>discovering the net. my sister raised her eyebrows at me and said,
>"aimee the whore?!" well, i tried to warn 'em. they knew i was weird.
>

Maybe then they'd leave me alone at reunions...

jay
(the choice of a new generation)

& I tried to tell my life story to the rain, &
& but it just ran into the sewer... &
& Andrew J. Onifer III ---> a...@po.cwru.edu &
& http://b61725.student.cwru.edu/ &
& PGP Key on WWW page &

Rantz Hoseley

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In article <49b6fd$3...@uucp.intac.com>, jenny finkel <fin...@intac.com> wrote:

> thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu (THOMAS SHEILA MARIE) wrote:
> >>> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
> >>> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
> >>> off-topic posts
> >>> thoughts?
> >
> >Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
> >I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
> >already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
> >Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>
>
> well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
> bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
> change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
> off.

Yes, and besides that, I figure if I can wear a "White Trash and proud of
it" Everclear shirt in a largely NON white neighborhood, and trust that
people can understnad irony and not SHOOT my ass, then well...

HELL just doesn't seem like big 'a deal y'know?

THOMAS SHEILA MARIE

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In article <49dddh$1...@daria.cdnow.com>,

Norman Buchwald <jbuc...@huey.csun.edu> wrote:
>jenny finkel <fin...@intac.com> wrote:
>>thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu (THOMAS SHEILA MARIE) wrote:
>>>Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
>>>I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
>>>already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
>>>Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>
>>
>>well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
>>bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
>>change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
>>off.
>> JENNY
>
>You have to realize, Jenny, Sheila's from Colorado. :) I remember a
>couple of years ago, when I was in Fort Collins, I was looking for a
>couple of movies to rent, and Blockbuster was running its promos,
>censored.
<snipetty>

Well, not FROM Colorado. I'm techinically FROM Indiana, though now that
I have Colorado residency, it's not something I like to admit. <G>

But, not to give the impression that I'm some kind of Church Lady,
language itself doesn't bother me. Just, with being a graduate student
and a sort of adult-by-default since I pay all my own bills, and being
the youngest grad student in my department (22) and incredibly young to
pretend to be qualified for university teaching, <pant pant>, there are
times that I want to be "alternative" or whatever without being
"childish". And a lot of people think swearing is childish. I'm lucky
enough to be in a field where I might actually get to wear the shirt to a
job interview one of these days. <G>

But hey, if people like the quote the way it is, I'll just have to deal
eh? ;>

>Have they
>switched the network stations, yet, by the way? :) That must be
>confusing!

Yes, they have, and yes, it is. :> And they only have Comedy Central
1/2 the day, so we missed many of the good MST3Ks on the Turkey Day
Marathon. Boo. Plus they cancelled the 90s Channel. Fascists at TCI.

THOMAS SHEILA MARIE

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In article <49cohj$95...@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca>,
JOUR/F94 <pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca> wrote:

>THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
>
>: Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
>: I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
>: already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
>
>What, you mean how they think that a bunch of us are jadded and will not
>stand for the shit world they want to impose on us? How self expression
>is so blatent? How angst and rage are apparent? How the Young
>Republicans just don't have the following they used to? How those of us
>born without the silver spoon are gonna try and eat anyways????
>They're not being critical, they're just being observant.

Um..... no. I kinda mean how they think we're all stupid, mono-syllabic
ingrates who can't read, write, spell, or balance our checkbooks, and
plan on making careers out of McDonald's jobs. Never mind that they've
broken up all the living wage jobs with benefits into non-benefit,
part-time temp jobs for less than half the hourly wage of the original
while they kill of our Earned Income Tax Credit and buy up all the
available housing so they can rent it to us at 500% of its actual worth.

>Fuck 'em.

Wish I could, but I work for them. <wan grin>

>=-Pierre...ranting and raving and more ranting.

Sheila/Elusis, joining you for a bit.

Aimee Lortskell

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Shalon Dale Wood (sw...@cs.uno.edu) wrote:
: : jenny finkel <fin...@intac.com> wrote:
: : >well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
: : >bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
: : >change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
: : >off.

: Besides, wouldn't be kinda hypocritical of *this* newsgroup especially

: to changethe wording like that? I mean, this *is* r.m.*TORI_AMOS*.........

sure, but what the hell does it have to do with.....

oh, nevermind. ;)

sorry, couldn't help myself. but i agree. it would be like tori
deciding she should cross her legs like the nice dry little girl some
people think she should be instead of letting it all hang out. it would
just be wrong.

Aimee the Whore (who hasn't been a good girl in a very LOOOOOONG time)

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/ i believe that one and one make two \
/ - Alanis Morissette \
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worldling

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In article <49de7h$q...@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu>, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu says...
>Lucretia (JEH...@SUNBELT.NET) wrote:

>: >well, um, id like it to stay 'hell' cos well i really dont want to let a
>: >bunch of super-critical adults get to me and i sure as hell dont want to
>: >change for them. and besides those are the kind of adults i LIKE pissing
>: >off.
>

>absofuckinglutely. if adults want to run around thinking everyone
>younger than them is a beavis and butthead clone, there's nothing we can
>do about it. fuck 'em, right? they're gonna think it anyway. might as
>well disturb them further. i think the word fuck should be featured
>prominently on the shirt.

Okay... you've got a Tori shirt, and you want to put FUCK on it... uhm, could
you give me a design or outlay of what exactly it's going to be about? Tori
and fuck just don't seem to go hand in hand with me... I've only heard her
say it a few times. It's not really synonymous with her now is it...

>: Exactly! Great for the family reunions!
>
>heh. oh, you bet. especially. speaking of which, my family is
>discovering the net. my sister raised her eyebrows at me and said,
>"aimee the whore?!" well, i tried to warn 'em. they knew i was weird.

heh! That's good. I am personally glad that my parents haven't discovered
the net becuase that would just be the shits...

>Aimee the Whore
>(official member of the why the fuck do we
>need to label generations anyway generation,
>the fist me i'm trent generation, the don't
>make me kick your ass generation, and the
>fucking off in there generation)

I am a member of all those generations as well, but i wouldn't let my kids
not experience that as well. If they wanna be members of those as well, i'm
certainly not gonna stop them.

Dirk...


C. Hoon

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On 29 Nov 1995, THOMAS SHEILA MARIE wrote:

> "childish". And a lot of people think swearing is childish. I'm lucky
> enough to be in a field where I might actually get to wear the shirt to a
> job interview one of these days. <G>

oh! oh! oh!

i have a prof who has a nosering and wore a black leather jacket to class
one day. :)

now *that* was cool.

--Carrie
(well, plus she's an awesome prof :) )

JOUR/F94

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THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
: JOUR/F94 <pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca> wrote:

: >What, you mean how they think that a bunch of us are jadded and will not

: >stand for the shit world they want to impose on us? How self expression
: >is so blatent? How angst and rage are apparent? How the Young
: >Republicans just don't have the following they used to? How those of us
: >born without the silver spoon are gonna try and eat anyways????
: >They're not being critical, they're just being observant.

: Um..... no. I kinda mean how they think we're all stupid, mono-syllabic
: ingrates who can't read, write, spell, or balance our checkbooks, and
: plan on making careers out of McDonald's jobs.

HA! Let'em underestimate us. Adults who think that way don't deserve my
respect, or yours for that matter.

Never mind that they've
: broken up all the living wage jobs with benefits into non-benefit,
: part-time temp jobs for less than half the hourly wage of the original
: while they kill of our Earned Income Tax Credit and buy up all the
: available housing so they can rent it to us at 500% of its actual worth.

Yeah... that's not being stupid mono-syllabic ingrates... that's just
being asshole, multi-syllabic ingrate cretins Gingrich lovin' bastards.
I can't stand the people who frown on the welfare class when everyone
with half an ounce of knowledge in social matters know that the welfare
class was CREATED. "They're all lazy" says the millionaire playboy who
inherited that large trust fund from daddy and hasn't done a day of work
in his life to his rich bitch daddie's-little-girl of a wife as they
lounge in the pool.

: Wish I could, but I work for them. <wan grin>

Yea.. I know... but fuck 'em anyways! Take the system from within.

: >=-Pierre...ranting and raving and more ranting.


: Sheila/Elusis, joining you for a bit.

You're always welcome.

=-Pierre...EAT THE RICH!!!!!!

JOUR/F94

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Aimee Lortskell (ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu) wrote:

: sorry, couldn't help myself. but i agree. it would be like tori

: deciding she should cross her legs like the nice dry little girl some
: people think she should be instead of letting it all hang out. it would
: just be wrong.

Aimee... Using the image of Tori in her trademark open legged piano
stance and the words Letting it all hang out" is kind of scary.

<shiver>

=-Pierre...OH!!!! I just got a visual... :P

Rantz A Hoseley

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In article <498mmm$r...@news.ssnet.com>, Larry O'Toole <lot...@ssnet.com> wrote:


:::buncha stuff RE the shirt snipped:::::

> Artists have to be allowed to discover themselves for better or worse.

When they
> are asked to conform to what someone else thinks is popular or
marketable, they
> end up with lofty red hair, skin-tight leather snake pants, and
thigh-high boots.
>
> We don't want that to happen to anyone here...
>

Thanks for the support Larry, I will point out that it's a little too
late, as witnessed in the pic from video that you sent me, but true, I
would RATHER not go back down that fashion road!

C. Hoon

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On 29 Nov 1995, JOUR/F94 wrote:

> =-Pierre...EAT THE RICH!!!!!!

hmmm, don't think they'd taste very good...

--Carrie
(git yer minds *outta* that gutter)


Midnight Tree Bandit

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jenny finkel (fin...@intac.com) wrote:
> >> sugar, caffeine and nicotine are *good*.
> >
> >yep. Rice cakes and bran and granola are *baaaaaad*
>
> well now im gonna have to disagree with you on this one. granola bars
> are GOOD. but maybe thats cos i eat the cchocolate chip ones..

Well, if they have chocolate chips in them, they're not really granola
bars. They're part of the chocolate food group.

> >(who's tempoorarily given up the nicotine part)
>
> JENNY (whos temporarily given them up again AGAIN)

I should clarify that. I was pressed for time (IO has unlimited time,
but the freenet account I use to reach it has an hour limit and I had
just gotten the 1 minute warning) when I wrote that. I'm one of those
irritatig smokers who can pick up and stop at any time. I can go weeks
without a cigarette, smoke a pack, and then not have another cig for
weeks. More addicted smokers hate me for that. I do smoke when out
bar-hopping, since as you'll find out in a few years, cigarettes had
while drinking do not count. But when that pack runs out, I don't have
another til the next rip. Occasionally, when my chainsmoking roommate is
in, I'll bum from him, but only becaus I had never been able to handle
second-had smoke... I much prefer it first-hand. :)

So at the moment, I'm not smoking, but tomorrow in Pool Night, and that
means time for Jack and Gingers, and a pack of Camel lights.

JOUR/F94

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Roy A. Getting (r...@airmail.net) wrote:
: pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca (JOUR/F94) wrote:

: >=-Pierre... of Cayden and Kestrel's Retribution And General Mayhem Co.

: Excuse me, but who is the nigh-invulnerable avatar of murder here? I
: go first, then the name of the company, then your name. Got it?

HA! You may be the avatar of murder, but I'm the master of retribution
and mental torture. Which comes before the murder... therefore the
correct sequential order.

=-Pierre... of Cayden and Kestrel's Retribution and General Mayhem Co.

JOUR/F94

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C. Hoon (clh...@u.washington.edu) wrote:

: On 29 Nov 1995, JOUR/F94 wrote:

: > =-Pierre...EAT THE RICH!!!!!!

: hmmm, don't think they'd taste very good...

But Carrie, there's only one thing they're really good for!

=-Pierre...who can't believe he brought up Aerosmith...

jenny finkel

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thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu (THOMAS SHEILA MARIE) wrote:
>In article <49cohj$95...@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca>,
>JOUR/F94 <pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca> wrote:
>>THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
>>
>>: Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
>>: I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
>>: already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
>>
>>What, you mean how they think that a bunch of us are jadded and will not
>>stand for the shit world they want to impose on us? How self expression
>>is so blatent? How angst and rage are apparent? How the Young
>>Republicans just don't have the following they used to? How those of us
>>born without the silver spoon are gonna try and eat anyways????
>>They're not being critical, they're just being observant.
>
>Um..... no. I kinda mean how they think we're all stupid, mono-syllabic
>ingrates who can't read, write, spell, or balance our checkbooks, and
>plan on making careers out of McDonald's jobs. Never mind that they've
>broken up all the living wage jobs with benefits into non-benefit,
>part-time temp jobs for less than half the hourly wage of the original
>while they kill of our Earned Income Tax Credit and buy up all the
>available housing so they can rent it to us at 500% of its actual worth.

youll have to excuse me here, os i could be comepletely wrong but from
this and another post (the one sayung you were younger than everyone you
work with) i sort of got the impression that youre trying to prove
oyurself to these people and i sort of want to ask why? i mean adults
that are all critical and think werre all childish and stuf really dont
deserve to have any effort made for them. sorry, but i hate those kind
of adults that think that just because theyre adults they know it all.
they piss me off and theyre the kind of people i enjoy pissing off. oh
well, sorry if this was a shitty post.
JENNY

Rantz Hoseley

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In article <49e29h$l...@anarchy.io.com>, mtba...@io.com (Midnight Tree
Bandit) wrote:

> Rantz Hoseley (ra...@primenet.com) wrote:
> > Well no offense to Larry (because he IS very talented and I love 'im
> > dearly) but if I'm doing the design, if you guys WANT me to, then, I'M
> > going to do the desing, call me a petty artist, but it's been a bad
> > season.
>
> That's not being a petty artists. It's being an artist. I mean,
> if we were to use someone else's design, what would we need you for? :)
>
> > They Crow CD ROM got canned, while we were in full production. So, I
> > actually have the TIME to do it.
>
> Sucks, man. Why? Has the movie been canceled? The only reason I could
> think of... How often does this sort of thing happen?
>

No, it's corporate BS, and I can't say more than that other than, well it
happens more than I would like...

Rantz Hoseley

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In article <49fef8$bl...@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca>, pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca
(JOUR/F94) wrote:

> Rantz A. Hoseley (Rantz....@aimla.com) wrote:
> : In article <4911jg$38...@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca>, pbec...@acs.ryerson.ca
> : (JOUR/F94) wrote:
>
> : > Fuck.. agreed... that sucks. Any chance whatsoever somebody else may
> : > pick it up?
>
> : Ummmmm, possible. Discussions are happening, but who knows. I would LIKE
> : all the effort not to be for naught, and I feel really good about the
> : project, but we'll have to wait and see. I'll keep everyone informed.
>
> In the meantime, we'll burn some insence, chant mantras and sacrifice a
> coupla virgins.
>
> Oh, and maybe we should also do something for Rantz while we're at it. <g>
>
> =-Pierre...who wishes Rantz all the luck in the world (ya, like he ain't
> lucky enough to know Tori already... but he's cool, he can have more luck)

Actually, I'd like to thank ALL of you who have given support through
this. I have spent the last six months working 12-18 hours a day on this
and then to have it canned... I have TRIED to keep optimistic, but it has
been hard to say the least.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's nice to know people still exist that give
a shit. Thank you all!

Peter Caira

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On 27 Nov 1995, Markku Kolkka wrote:

> That "everybody has a say in the design" thing was attempted on
> rec.music.gaffa/Love-Hounds, and all that resulted was a lot of wasted
> Net bandwith. Then someone just went off and did it all and we got our
> shirts!
>
> You just can't do creative work by committees and votes.

It's not easy to work in groups when you're omnipotent, I agree...but I
think that a little bit of it (ie: the basic idea) should be generally
agreed upon by the people who will be purchasing the shirt.

Peter Caira
ca...@server.uwindsor.ca
http://supernova.uwindsor.ca/staff/caira

Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again


Peter Caira

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On 27 Nov 1995, Chris wrote:

> Since I haven't been on RMTA for months now, I thought it would be wise to
> jump right back in. I have a brilliant<?> Idea for the back of the shirt:
> under the RMTA thingy put a huge list of all the regulars, lurkers, and

> others who have come to enjoy RMTA for it's worth. _OR_ a big ad for

> Clamstar digital rectal imaging would be nice.

Ya, either that or have a big picture of Audry II on the back...(;
Seriously, I think this point has already been discussed...and we decided
that it would be kind of crappy to do this in case someone was left out
and/or didn't want to be part of it...
Don't get me wrong, I think it would be ultra-cool, but it may not be
that easy to do.

JOUR/F94

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Peter Caira (ca...@server.uwindsor.ca) wrote:

: It's not easy to work in groups when you're omnipotent, I agree...but I

: think that a little bit of it (ie: the basic idea) should be generally
: agreed upon by the people who will be purchasing the shirt.

Or at least the quote should be decided upon by us... here's my suggestion...

In the thank yous on the back of the booklet of UtP, Tori says "Apple
COmputers it's Bitchin what these things can do"... so why don't we just
hack it a bit and have our quote say: Computers...it's Bitchin what
these things can do.

ANd then have r.m.t-a. or somethin' as the attribution... I'm sure noone
would mind....

Midnight Tree Bandit

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Nov 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/30/95
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THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
> One would think there would be a way to turn that off.... Nah, that
> might be logical, even useful. Can't have stuff like THAT floating
> around on servers... <G>

Not at all. Like Paul Ely said, "Unix acts like your bothering it all
the time."

> I've arrived home from a five-day trip to San Francisco, and so far I've
> read my WWIV mail, gazed at my woeful dearth of Net mail, and come
> straight here.

Five days? That reminds me. It used to be the Murpohy's Law of Sysoping
that any time you leave home for more than a day, you will come home to
discover that your BBS crashed 10 munites after you left. Used to happen
to me and Deanna all the time. But now that hardware has gotten more
reliable and Wayne's designed the software to be more crashproof (or at
least not lock up so hard PhoneV4 won't reboot it), I've discovered that
doesn't happen as much. I was gone 4 and a half days over thanksgiving
and came back to find all still operating. Whoa....

> I'm thinking that before Jan.1, I'm gonna be buying a shiny new Mac and
> perhaps subscribing to Compuserve (or Delphi or WELL? Thoughts?) for tax
> purposes -- for my job, ya know. Once I have graphical browser
> capability for the web, I'm probably a lost cause.

A Mac? A MAC?? HERETIC! You better keep the PC for WWIV. The Mac
version of WWIV 4.2x hasn't materialized yet... :) If Internet is your
primary concern, I recommend finding a local Intrnet Service Provider.
Browsing the Web is generally faster on those.

> >Speaking of WWIV, are you still on my WWIVLink music sub (One Man's
> >Noise)? Some heretical dweeb from St. Louis named Feynman denouced
> >Tori's music as "sterile". The NERVE!
>
> Yeah, I'm there. Not too much time for WWIV posts, and you're handling
> him nicely thus far. I'll have to get over there and put my two cents in
> soon, though. ;>

I'll be waiting... Deanna's done a good job reviving the conversation
there... she my best friend, but she doesn't like Tori. Ah well. I
think Oz disses Tori just to watch me squirm...

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(who wonders if this shouldn't have been email, but then figured well,
why not?)

Midnight Tree Bandit

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THOMAS SHEILA MARIE (thom...@ucsub.colorado.edu) wrote:
> >> BACK. Lettering in quotes saying "What in the hell does it have to do
> >> with Tori Amos?" Which I believe was posted by some lurker in ref to the
> >> off-topic posts
> >> thoughts?
>
> Quick slightly-conservative request: could we make it "heck"? Just 'cos
> I sometimes feel strange wearing the "Bitchin'" shirt, what with adults
> already being so hyper-critical of people our age. Know what I mean?
> Because I would definitely want to wear this all the time... <G>

Define "adults" and "people our age" :) Being 32, some would consider
that "adult", and being a member of this ng and friends with so many, I
sorta see meself as "people our age".

:)

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