WHO'S THE GREATEST LYRIC WRITER?
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soul music? If you know read below and let us know.
We feel it is an appropriate time to find the writer of the most poetic
lyrics in popular music. With the music scene populated with songs that
sound similar it is the lyric writer that can seperate a well written
song from the run of the mill. Should you know of a song (s) that
features what you feel are the most inspiring lyrics of all time then
let us know. You MUST send the name of the song, the lyric writer, THE
COMPLETE LYRICS and if possible the copyright information. You can
nominate a song by e-mail at "poe...@freemail.com.au". A panel of
judges including music critics, literature experts and general public
will look at all nominations individually. Generalised sweeping
statements such as 'a certain writer is the best poet in rock' will not
be accepted. The judging will be on individual songs only. You may
NOMINATE MORE THAN ONE song from any artist or songs from different
artists. We do ask that you include lyrics as we are receiving thousands
of nominations and do not have the time to search for lyrics no matter
how common or widely known a song may be. The name of the songwriter
will be kept hidden from the judging panel to avoid bias. Nominations
close December 6th 1999. Stay tuned for news of a web-site dedicated to
the lyric writers of this century, that will keep you updated with the
judging process.
Who will it be? Joni Mitchell, Sting, Dylan or Jewel, or some unknown or
under-rated writer? Let us know which song it will be. Do not rely on
others to nominate your choice no matter how well known a song may be.
Don't forget to tell all your friends, but remember there is no
advantage in nominating the same song more than once. Only those songs
nominated by the public will be considered. This will NOT however be
decided on a voting basis- that is on which song or writer receives the
most nominations.
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Vedran Dracic
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> let us know. You MUST send the name of the song, the lyric writer, THE
> COMPLETE LYRICS and if possible the copyright information. You can
> nominate a song by e-mail at "poe...@freemail.com.au". A panel of
Too complicated.
Steven E. Bruun
wrote:
I agree, but if pressed, I would nominate Smokey Robinson with "What's So
Good About Goodbye?"
- SteveB
Bruce Burtin
: >
: I agree, but if pressed, I would nominate Smokey Robinson
Ditto. Smokey even surpasses Dylan.
I know this is a sixties ng but, I'll give a huge shout to Rod Temperton.
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>Who is the greatest writer of lyrics in the history of rock, pop and
>soul music?
I nominate Carole King, who you forgot on your list, but Jewel and
Dylan write good also.
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b...@earth.execpc.com (Bruce Burtin), wrote:
>Steven E. Bruun (seb...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
>: >
>: I agree, but if pressed, I would nominate Smokey Robinson
>
>Ditto. Smokey even surpasses Dylan.
>
>I know this is a sixties ng but, I'll give a huge shout to Rod Temperton.
I guess nobody is paying any attention to the fact that this was crossposted to
4 groups, most of which have nothing in common. This leads to quite of bit of
off-topic posting to the other three groups when you don't cut out the groups
that don't belong from the newsgroup list.
The person that started this is a real winner. He hadn't the faintest idea that
by crossposting this to unrelated groups that he was going to be causing a big
problem in regards to off-topic posts.
That is why you need to think things out before crossposting and if you are
responding with something that won't fit the other groups, then cut out the
other groups and only post to the appropriate group.
For anybody that hasn't noticed, these are the 4 groups that all of these posts
have been going to:
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1970s,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s,rec.music.rem
Norm K
Bob Roman
> poetr...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >Who is the greatest writer of lyrics in the history of rock, pop and
> >soul music?
>
> I nominate Carole King, who you forgot on your list
Carole King was a songwriter who collaborated with lyricists. She wrote
very few of the lyrics in her best known songs.
She did not write the lyrics to "Will You Love Me Tomorrow".
She did not write the lyrics to "Up On the Roof".
She did not write the lyrics to "One Fine Day".
She did not write the lyrics to "Don't Bring Me Down".
She did not write the lyrics to "A Natural Woman".
She did not write the lyrics to "It's Too Late".
Bob Roman
Santo Pantalones del Carne
Cole Fuckin' Porter.
That's all.
Gilbert George Neal
Andy Partridge
Dan Carlsson
>Who is the greatest writer of lyrics in the history of rock, pop and
>soul music?
This was an easy one! Bob Dylan of course, no other come even
close....
Neil Vinall
No arguments please.....
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Dan Carlsson
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>John Lennon
>
>No arguments please.....
>
Do we have a argue here :-)
Bod Dylan, period.
Richard Elias
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Robin Petty
> Three words:
>
> Cole Fuckin' Porter.
>
> That's all.
Ahh....I often wondered what the F. stood for in Cole F. Porter :)
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bobdirk
DianeE wrote in message <80ao3s$p83$3...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>Bob Roman wrote in message <809fgm$1js$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>>rox...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>> poetr...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>> >Who is the greatest writer of lyrics in the history of rock, pop and
>>> >soul music?
>>>
>>
>>Carole King was a songwriter who collaborated with lyricists. She wrote
>>very few of the lyrics in her best known songs.
>>She did not write the lyrics to "Will You Love Me Tomorrow".
>>She did not write the lyrics to "Up On the Roof".
>>She did not write the lyrics to "One Fine Day".
>>She did not write the lyrics to "Don't Bring Me Down".
>>She did not write the lyrics to "A Natural Woman".
>>She did not write the lyrics to "It's Too Late".
>Did she write the lyrics to "It Might As Well Rain Until September"?
>Did she write the lyrics to "The LocoMotion"?
>Did she write the lyrics to "Papa Oo Mow Mow"? I wish I did!
>
>DianeE
>
Jimmy Van Heusen isn't just turning over in his grave, he's churning down
even deeper. Is there a 40's newsgroup? If so, I can't find it. But just
you wait, they tell me that we'll all be "connected" shortly. Does it count
if you were "almost" in the 50's?
No? Then how's about Lou Christie?
I
Bobby
Peter Joseph La Prade The Only RedViper
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WHO'S THE GREATEST LYRIC WRITER? representing , in
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<snip Carole King discussion>
>Jimmy Van Heusen isn't just turning over in his grave, he's churning down
>even deeper. Is there a 40's newsgroup? If so, I can't find it. But just
>you wait, they tell me that we'll all be "connected" shortly. Does it count
>if you were "almost" in the 50's?
>
>No? Then how's about Lou Christie?
I'm sorry, but I can't help you there, but jumping in with a '40's
question, when the previous post which you quoted was about Carole
King. That just seems off-topic.
Luc Klinkhamer
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Roger Hodgson (Supertramp)
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bobdirk
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>On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:09:44 -0500, , "bobdirk"
><bob...@email.msn.com> shared his insight or lack thereof about Re:
>WHO'S THE GREATEST LYRIC WRITER? representing , in
>rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s
>
><snip Carole King discussion>
>>Jimmy Van Heusen isn't just turning over in his grave, he's churning down
>>even deeper. Is there a 40's newsgroup? If so, I can't find it. But
just
>>you wait, they tell me that we'll all be "connected" shortly. Does it
count
>>if you were "almost" in the 50's?
>>
>>No? Then how's about Lou Christie?
>
>I'm sorry, but I can't help you there, but jumping in with a '40's
>question, when the previous post which you quoted was about Carole
>King. That just seems off-topic.
>
The original post went to all three (50s, 60's, 70's) groups- Lightning
striking again and again and again.
Bob
Phinatical
JBartos
No one can match his lyrics.
Jim
bobdirk
JBartos wrote in message <382E5300...@columbus.rr.com>...
>Cole Porter!!
>
>No one can match his lyrics.
>
>Jim
Finally- the correct answer.
Bob
Mark Dintenfass
<dianee...@att.net> wrote:
> bobdirk wrote in message ...
> ----------------
> I don't agree with you. I think Cole Porter's lyrics were the most *clever*
> and *witty* and *brilliant* and so forth, but they lack real passion. You
> can admire them but they do not *grab* you.
>
> This is my opinion, I don't seek to impose it on anyone else, and remember
> I'm basically a blues fan, so the *emotions* conveyed by music and lyrics
> are more important to me than they might be to someone else.
Well said, Diane. Besides, the original question, if I can remember back
that far, asked for the greatest *r'n'r* lyric writer.
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bobdirk
DianeE wrote in message <80mk3g$2kp$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>bobdirk wrote in message ...
>>
>>JBartos wrote in message <382E5300...@columbus.rr.com>...
>>>Cole Porter!!
>>>
>>>No one can match his lyrics.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>
>>Finally- the correct answer.
>>Bob
>----------------
>I don't agree with you. I think Cole Porter's lyrics were the most
*clever*
>and *witty* and *brilliant* and so forth, but they lack real passion. You
>can admire them but they do not *grab* you.
>
>This is my opinion, I don't seek to impose it on anyone else, and remember
>I'm basically a blues fan, so the *emotions* conveyed by music and lyrics
>are more important to me than they might be to someone else.
>
>
Point taken, I change my vote to Donald Fagen.
Bob
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> JBartos wrote in message <382E5300...@columbus.rr.com>...
> >Cole Porter!!
> >
> >No one can match his lyrics.
> >
> >Jim
>
> Finally- the correct answer.
> Bob
I don't know much about Cole Porter, but of the modern era, Adam Duritz of
the Counting Crows is an amazing wordsmith. Their new album is AMAZING.....
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Sparks? He probably set some kind of record for cramming the most
syllables into one line.
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Ukali Mwendo
Curtis Mayfield, of course.
(got any hard questions?)
A Soul man,
Ukali
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Matthew Montchalin
| Who's the *greatest* writer?!
|
| Curtis Mayfield, of course.
And speaking of whom, I managed to get my hands on a copy of his book,
"Poetic License" (published by Dove Books, ISBN 0-7871-0680-1). Everybody
should get a copy. The book contains the lyrics to 72 of his top selling
songs.
Yes, he is a truly amazing man. :)
Matthew Montchalin
| On 17 Nov 1999, Ukali Mwendo wrote:
| | Who's the *greatest* writer?!
| |
| | Curtis Mayfield, of course.
|
| And speaking of whom, I managed to get my hands on a copy of his book,
| "Poetic License" (published by Dove Books, ISBN 0-7871-0680-1).
For what it's worth, that's 'DOVE Books' not 'Dover Books.'
| Everybody should get a copy. The book contains the lyrics to 72 of his
| top selling songs.
|
| Yes, he is a truly amazing man. :)
He says in his book that he is no longer able to work as an entertainer
because of his quadriplegic condition (snapped spine). I trust he can
find some escape in Internet and computers, if nowhere else. It can be
quite absorbing, and in \certain\ ways more rewarding than doing other
things in life. (Sigh!)
Matthew Montchalin
| this may be OT for this newsgroup but anyone remember Ron Mael from
| Sparks? He probably set some kind of record for cramming the most
| syllables into one line.
Now, wait a second. Screamin' J.J. Hawkins did a pretty good job with
nonsense lyrics (m-m-m-m-mu-) in 'Little Demon' (the flipside of
'I Put a Spell on You'). That's where every 'm' represents an inchoate
syllable unto itself. OTOH, which song did Ron Mael set a record with?
TeddyBoy
songs
as did
Burt Bacharach
Jimmy Webb
Tim Hardin
Bobby Darin
Dozier Holland and Dozier
Lieber and Stoller
Smokey Robinson
Lee Hazelwood
Good luck finding just ONE..to be #1
TB
bobdirk wrote in message ...
>
Ed Cate
I didn't realize that Bacharach wrote lyrics. >Dozier Holland and Dozier
Should be Holland, Dozier and Holland.
Ed
Bob Roman
> >Dozier Holland and Dozier
>
> Should be Holland, Dozier and Holland.
And Eddie Holland (the Holland on the right) was also the only lyricist
on the team. He also worked with Norman Whitfield on the Temptations'
stuff. Holland wrote the lyrics to "Ain't Too Proud to Beg" and "(I
Know) I'm Losing You" among others. Whitfield didn't team with Barrett
Strong until H-D-H left Motown.
Bob Roman
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>
>bobdirk wrote in message ...
>>
>>JBartos wrote in message <382E5300...@columbus.rr.com>...
>>>Cole Porter!!
>>>
>>>No one can match his lyrics.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>
>>Finally- the correct answer.
>>Bob
>----------------
>I don't agree with you. I think Cole Porter's lyrics were the most *clever*
>and *witty* and *brilliant* and so forth, but they lack real passion. You
>can admire them but they do not *grab* you.
>
I agree. Johnny Mercer is from the same era as Porter but Mercer has
"soul" and I believe his work has compartively little to Porter,
Berlin etc etc
John Frank
>>Burt Bacharach
>
>I didn't realize that Bacharach wrote lyrics. >Dozier Holland and Dozier
>Should be Holland, Dozier and Holland.
>
>Ed
I don't think he did, did he? The lyricists who worked with him were Hal David
and, later, Carol Bayer-Sager.
John
Andrew Stewart
<Tar...@skantech.com> wrote:
>this may be OT for this newsgroup but anyone remember Ron Mael from
>Sparks? He probably set some kind of record for cramming the most
>syllables into one line.
Undoubtedly. David Bowie once said "I keep writing lyrics with too
many syllabbles so I end up having to sing them faster", but Mael took
that to the very extremity of possibility.
Mael is an example of a brilliant lyricist whose lyrics don't look as
good written down. For example, "This Town Ain't Big Enough For The
Both Of Us" - nothing without that camp falsetto delivery, but one of
the funniest lyrics ever written with. A lot of people think of "good
lyrics" as "looks like poetry when written down", but they're really
not the same thing at all.
(np: Best Of Bowie 69/74)
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