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3 Essential 60s Albums Pt. 4

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The Giant Brain

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:31:05 AM11/19/09
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Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills


50s

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:45:14 AM11/19/09
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Great, more shit white noise.

Music Listener

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:26:14 PM11/19/09
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"The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:

these threads are kinda like squeezing a toothpaste tube to get the last
drops. how many parts will be coming? and are these in order of
preference, or just random?

lower batting average with these three, for me...i don't have much use
for Happy Trails or Cheap Thrills, though i love the Traffic.

The Giant Brain

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:51:15 PM11/19/09
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"Music Listener" <hender...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
>> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
>> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
>
> these threads are kinda like squeezing a toothpaste tube to get the last
> drops. how many parts will be coming? and are these in order of
> preference, or just random?

Nobody is forcing you to read them...


> lower batting average with these three, for me...i don't have much use
> for Happy Trails or Cheap Thrills, though i love the Traffic.

Happy Trails may be the best example of San Francisco jam band music ever
recorded.
Cheap Thrills is probably Janis Joplin's finest effort.
YMMV


Music Listener

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:10:11 PM11/19/09
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"The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:

> >> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
> >> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
> >> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
> >

> > how many parts will be coming? and are these in order of
> > preference, or just random?
>
> Nobody is forcing you to read them...

seemed like reasonable questions, and painless to answer.

> > lower batting average with these three, for me...i don't have much use
> > for Happy Trails or Cheap Thrills, though i love the Traffic.
>
> Happy Trails may be the best example of San Francisco jam band music ever
> recorded.

unless you classify Airplane that way, that's a pretty dubious subgenre
for me. you can have it. and i've never heard even one QMS track i liked.

The Giant Brain

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:16:36 PM11/19/09
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"Music Listener" <hender...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'd like to suggest that you get a life...
PLONK


Music Listener

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:38:58 PM11/19/09
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"The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:

> >> >> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
> >> >> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
> >> >> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
> >> >
> >> > how many parts will be coming? and are these in order of
> >> > preference, or just random?
> >>
> >> Nobody is forcing you to read them...
> >
> > seemed like reasonable questions, and painless to answer.
> >
> >> > lower batting average with these three, for me...i don't have much use
> >> > for Happy Trails or Cheap Thrills, though i love the Traffic.
> >>
> >> Happy Trails may be the best example of San Francisco jam band music ever
> >> recorded.
> >
> > unless you classify Airplane that way, that's a pretty dubious subgenre
> > for me. you can have it. and i've never heard even one QMS track i liked.
>
> I'd like to suggest that you get a life...
> PLONK

wow, how incredibly lame. i guess one shouldn't expect any better from
someone who gives himself the nick "The Giant Brain."

50s

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:26:49 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 3:51 pm, "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
> "Music Listener" <henderson2...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:henderson2659-38C...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
> >> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
> >> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
>
> > these threads are kinda like squeezing a toothpaste tube to get the last
> > drops. how many parts will be coming? and are these in order of
> > preference, or just random?
>
> Nobody is forcing you to read them...
>
> > lower batting average with these three, for me...i don't have much use
> > for Happy Trails or Cheap Thrills, though i love the Traffic.
>
> Happy Trails may be the best example of San Francisco jam band music ever
> recorded.

Whoop-de-damn-do - as if that's a sub genre that belongs on a list of
essential music of an entire decade.


> Cheap Thrills is probably Janis Joplin's finest effort.

Again, who cares if something is the best thing by a mediocre artist.
There are lots of better female singers from this decade (Aretha, Irma
Thomas, Gladys Knight, Martha Reeves, etc....)

Aretha's first Atlantic LP pisses all over "Cheap Thrills" Is not
even remotely close.

50s

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:28:37 PM11/19/09
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LOL.. more like "The Pea Brain"

gullive...@yahoo.com

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:38:40 PM11/19/09
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How about:
Flying Burrito Brothers Gilded Palace of Sin
Fairport Convention Unhalfbricking
any one Beatles cd,

globular

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:56:32 PM11/19/09
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I suspect a bias for the San Francisco/Monterey sound.
Wish I had the Traffic album.

Tim

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:03:31 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 12:51 pm, "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
> "Music Listener" <henderson2...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:henderson2659-38C...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
> >> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
> >> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
>
> > these threads are kinda like squeezing a toothpaste tube to get the last
> > drops. how many parts will be coming? and are these in order of
> > preference, or just random?
>
> Nobody is forcing you to read them...

The hell nobody's forcing us the read them.. some of us have govt
installed microchip implants.

Plonk that !!


Jan Dean

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:29:05 PM11/19/09
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The U.S. version or the U.K. version?

globular

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:33:08 PM11/19/09
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Wish I knew more about Traffic.
Wish I had a copy of the movie, Here We Go Round the Mulberry Bush.

Ken Whiton

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:19:15 AM11/20/09
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*-* On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, at 16:38:40 -0800 (PST),
*-* In Article
<cb076709-7016-49c1...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
*-* gullive...@yahoo.com wrote
*-* About Re: 3 Essential 60s Albums Pt. 4

The Beatles didn't release any CDs in the '60s. ;-)

Ken Whiton
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The Giant Brain

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:49:46 AM11/20/09
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"Tim" <tdwill...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> The hell nobody's forcing us the read them.. some of us have govt installed
> microchip implants.


SIlence, lest I send the signal to make the chip explode!


Michael Black

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:26:08 PM11/20/09
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First, "jam bands" didn't exist back then. It's a nineties term applied
retroactively, when newer bands came along and needed a moniker.

It was the San Francisco Sound, which has always been vague, but is
descriptive since the music rose up in the dance halls. "A Tribute to
Doctor Strange" was promoted as a dance, just like in high school, not a
concert. Thus the bands were about playing long so the dancers didn't
have to keep stopping and starting. That propelled the improvisational
aspect of the music, and the long playing that was so different from
the rest of the music world at the time.

Much of it didn't translate to record, since initially it reverted to
short songs when the bands went into the studio.

So if you listen to The Great Society's live album(s) that were released
after the fact, all the songs are long and improvisational. Listen to
Jefferson Airplane live (and they had a few live albums), the music is
likewise long and improvisational. And so on. But you can't judge
by some of the albums, because they were studio albums and that ended
up being different music. Even the Grateful Dead, I can't immediately
think of any long or improvisational recordings they put on the studio
albums, but of course almost from the start they were releasing live
albums that did bring forth their live sound.

"Happy Trails" is actually different from the rest of Quicksilver's
output, since it is a live album and captures what they were like in
concert.

Michael


Tim

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:42:32 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 20, 6:49 am, "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
> "Tim" <tdwilliams...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

Deal. (so long as you continue keeping your black helicopters away
from my zip code)

50s

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:55:21 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 20, 2:26 pm, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Music Listener wrote:
> > "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
> >>>> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
> >>>> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
>
> >>> how many parts will be coming? and are these in order of
> >>> preference, or just random?
>
> >> Nobody is forcing you to read them...
>
> > seemed like reasonable questions, and painless to answer.
>
> >>> lower batting average with these three, for me...i don't have much use
> >>> for Happy Trails or Cheap Thrills, though i love the Traffic.
>
> >> Happy Trails may be the best example of San Francisco jam band music ever
> >> recorded.
>
> > unless you classify Airplane that way, that's a pretty dubious subgenre
> > for me. you can have it. and i've never heard even one QMS track i liked.
>
> First, "jam bands" didn't exist back then.  It's a nineties term applied
> retroactively, when newer bands came along and needed a moniker.

No shit.....you didn't think that "Pea Brain" was any older than 30,
did you?

Rocky

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:34:09 AM11/21/09
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Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote in
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.09...@darkstar.example.net:

> First, "jam bands" didn't exist back then. It's a nineties term applied
> retroactively, when newer bands came along and needed a moniker.
>

Hardly


From American Speech Vol. 12, No. 1 (Feb., 1937), pp. 45-48 by Russel B.
Nye. - "A musician's word list"

Jam Band - "a 'jam band' depends entirely on improvisation, using no
written music".


In the 1930s you had "Coleman Hawkins and His All Star Jam Band"

Uni

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:50:08 AM11/21/09
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US Traffic is much more congested!

Uni :-)


The Giant Brain

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"Jan Dean" <jan...@surfcity.com> wrote in message
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Torrents for all Traffic albums are readily available...


DCar...@aol.com

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On Nov 21, 10:26 am, "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
> "Jan Dean" <jand...@surfcity.com> wrote in message

Dean Torrance hated Traffic but paid dearly for it, baby!!


Dennis C from Tennessee

50s

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:27:13 PM11/21/09
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That was Jan Berry, schmuck.

DCar...@aol.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:32:22 AM11/22/09
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I can NEVER get that right!!

Tim

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:09:46 PM11/22/09
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I thought it was Jane Mansfield.

50s

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:37:08 PM11/22/09
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Same thing happened to Dean but he ducked just in time.

50s

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:37:48 PM11/22/09
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I feel like Dennis now......it happened to Jan, not Dean.

Tim

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:35:44 PM11/22/09
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It had to have been Jan ..Dean's still cranking out breakfast sausages.

Jim Colegrove

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:35:44 -0800 (PST), Tim
<tdwill...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On Nov 22, 1:37嚙緘m, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 22, 4:37嚙緘m, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 22, 4:09嚙緘m, Tim <tdwilliams...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Nov 21, 7:27嚙緘m, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Nov 21, 9:10嚙緘m, "DCart...@AOL.com" <DCart...@AOL.com> wrote:


>>
>> > > > > On Nov 21, 10:26嚙窮m, "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > "Jan Dean" <jand...@surfcity.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > > > >news:4b061b1c$0$17908$6d36...@usenetnewsserver.com...
>>
>> > > > > > > globular wrote:
>> > > > > > >> The Giant Brain wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > >>> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
>> > > > > > >>> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
>> > > > > > >>> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
>>
>> > > > > > >> I suspect a bias for the San Francisco/Monterey sound.
>> > > > > > >> Wish I had the Traffic album.
>>
>> > > > > > > The U.S. version or the U.K. version?
>>
>> > > > > > Torrents for all Traffic albums are readily available...
>>
>> > > > > Torrents for all Traffic albums are readily available..
>>

>> > > > > 嚙瘩ean Torrance hated Traffic but paid dearly for it, baby!!


>>
>> > > > That was Jan Berry, schmuck.
>>
>> > > I thought it was Jane Mansfield.
>>
>> > Same thing happened to Dean but he ducked just in time.
>>
>> I feel like Dennis now......it happened to Jan, not Dean.
>
>It had to have been Jan ..Dean's still cranking out breakfast sausages.


James Dean has been dead for years.

Jim Colegrove
www.lostcountry.com

Tim

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:03:30 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 2:42 pm, Jim Colegrove <co...@thecoolgroove.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:35:44 -0800 (PST), Tim
>
>
>
>
>
> <tdwilliams...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 22, 1:37 pm, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 22, 4:37 pm, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Nov 22, 4:09 pm, Tim <tdwilliams...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Nov 21, 7:27 pm, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > On Nov 21, 9:10 pm, "DCart...@AOL.com" <DCart...@AOL.com> wrote:

>
> >> > > > > On Nov 21, 10:26 am, "The Giant Brain" <Gi...@Brain.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > "Jan Dean" <jand...@surfcity.com> wrote in message
>
> >> > > > > >news:4b061b1c$0$17908$6d36...@usenetnewsserver.com...
>
> >> > > > > > > globular wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> The Giant Brain wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > >>> Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails
> >> > > > > > >>> Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
> >> > > > > > >>> Big Brother & the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
>
> >> > > > > > >> I suspect a bias for the San Francisco/Monterey sound.
> >> > > > > > >> Wish I had the Traffic album.
>
> >> > > > > > > The U.S. version or the U.K. version?
>
> >> > > > > > Torrents for all Traffic albums are readily available...
>
> >> > > > > Torrents for all Traffic albums are readily available..
>
> >> > > > >  Dean Torrance hated Traffic but paid dearly for it, baby!!

>
> >> > > > That was Jan Berry, schmuck.
>
> >> > > I thought it was Jane Mansfield.
>
> >> > Same thing happened to Dean but he ducked just in time.
>
> >> I feel like Dennis now......it happened to Jan, not Dean.
>
> >It had to have been Jan ..Dean's still cranking out breakfast sausages.
>
> James Dean has been dead for years.
>
I stand corrected. Dean was indeed killed, while singing of saving his
coworkers lives, at a coal mine.

DCar...@aol.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:09:05 PM11/22/09
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No No No Hell No!!!

Dean died contracting the cancer on the presidency, baby!!


Dennis C from Tennessee

Tim

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:50:00 PM11/22/09
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There goes my "Dean blew his mind out, in a car" hypothesis.

Uni

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:07:35 PM11/22/09
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Before or after he made sausage?

Uni :-)


Tim

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:43:32 PM11/22/09
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hmm - just know it was soon after he made "Giant"

globular

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:39:36 AM11/23/09
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But not all that is availabe are torrents.

Jim Colegrove

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:08:34 PM11/23/09
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"Giant Sausage From Pasadena."
Jim Colegrove
http://www.lostcountry.com

Uni

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:10:04 PM11/23/09
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Giant Sausage? Didn't they call that a woody? :-)

Uni

> Jim Colegrove
> http://www.lostcountry.com


Tim

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On Nov 23, 7:10 pm, Uni <no.em...@no.email.invalid> wrote:
> Jim Colegrove wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:43:32 -0800 (PST), Tim
Indeed, I understand that "Giant" costars Liz Taylor, & Rock Hudson
were both, big fans of woodies.
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