WKNR Top 30 MAY 1967
C.E.STINSON
WKNR (DETROIT) KEENER 13 HITS MUSIC GUIDE
May 1st-May29th 1967
29 22 15 8 1 Title - Artist
1 2 7 18 22 SOMEBODY TO LOVE - JEFFERSON AIRPLANE
2 10 31 -- -- Can't Take My Eyes Off You - Frankie Valli
3 1 4 9 26 My Girl Josephine - Jerry Jaye
4 4 3 10 23 Groovin - Young Rascals
5 11 22 KS -- Windy - Association
6 5 5 26 -- Respect - Aretha Franklin
7 3 1 1 7 Release Me - Englebert Humperdinck
8 8 11 28 -- Aint No Mountian High Enough - Gaye & Terrell
9 24 -- -- -- Little Bit O Soul - Music Explosion
10 25 -- -- -- Alfie - Dionne Warwick
11 7 6 3 5 Him or Me - Paul Revere & Raiders
12 28 -- -- -- Sunday Will Never Be The Same
13 6 2 4 8 I Got Rhythm - Happenings
14 30 -- -- -- Baby Please Come Home - J J Barnes
15 19 25 29 -- A Little Bit Slower - Jon & Robin
16 22 30 -- -- She'd Rather Be With Me - Turtles
17 14 28 -- -- 7 Rooms of Gloom - Four Tops
18 31 -- -- -- You Gave Me Something - Fantastic Four
19 18 27 31 -- There Here - Boots Walker
20 20 26 30 -- Girls in Love - Garl Lewis & Playboys
21 23 KS -- -- Don't Worry Baby - The Wanted
22 27 -- -- -- San Francisco "Flowers" - Scott McKenzie
23 26 -- -- -- Tramp - Otis & Carla
24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
25 KS -- -- -- I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder
26 -- -- -- -- Ding Dong The Witch is Dead - 5th Estate
27 -- -- -- -- Together - Intruders
28 -- -- -- -- Make Me Yours - Bettye Swann
29 -- -- -- -- Blue's Theme - The Arrows
30 -- -- -- -- Tracks of My Tears - Johnny Rivers
31 -- -- -- -- Dont Sleep in the Subway - Petula Clark
-- 9 8 16 27 I Was Kaisers Bills Batman - Whistlin Jack Smith
-- 12 10 13 19 Shake a Tail Feather - James & Bobby Purify
-- 13 12 5 3 Friday on My Mind - Easybeats
-- 15 16 17 21 Here Comes My Baby - Tremeloes
-- 16 13 8 6 All I Need - Temptations
-- 17 14 7 4 Happy Jack - The Who
-- 21 29 -- -- Come on Down to My Boat - Every Mothers Son
-- -- 9 2 1 Don't You Care - Buckinghams
-- -- 15 12 16 Creeque Alley - Mama's & Papa's
-- -- 17 15 25 We Had a Good Thing - Cyrkle
-- -- 18 27 -- Too Many Fish - Mitch Ryder
-- -- 19 19 24 Sunshine Girl - Parade
-- -- 20 21 29 Young & In Love - Marvelettes
-- -- 21 22 28 Six O'Clock - Lovin Spoonful
-- -- 23 23 31 Little Games - Yardbirds
-- -- 24 25 KS Sound of Love - Five Americans
-- -- -- 6 2 Dead End Street - Lou Rawls
-- -- -- 11 10 Mirage - Tommy James & Shondells
-- -- -- 14 17 When I Was Young - Animals
-- -- -- 20 20 Music to Watch Girls By - Andy Williams
-- -- -- 24 30 Cant Seem to Make You Mine - Seeds
-- -- -- -- 9 Sweet Soul Music - A Conley
-- -- -- -- 11 Love I Saw In You - Miracles
-- -- -- -- 12 Something Stupid - Frank & Nancy Sinatra
-- -- -- -- 13 You Got What It Takes - Dave Clark 5
-- -- -- -- 14 The Happening - Supremes
-- -- -- -- 15 My Babe - Ronnie Dove
-- -- -- -- 18 Yellow Balloon - Yellow Balloon
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Regina Litman
C.E.STINSON wrote:
>
> WKNR (DETROIT) KEENER 13 HITS MUSIC GUIDE
> May 1st-May29th 1967
>
> 29 22 15 8 1 Title - Artist
> 1 2 7 18 22 SOMEBODY TO LOVE - JEFFERSON AIRPLANE
Great new song! Great new group! I knew it was the dawning of a new era. OK, my
language is a bit over-hype. In fact, the new era had some good aspects and some bad.
All of a sudden, certain acts were considered to be "hip", and others were considered to
be "not hip". The Jefferson Airplane was definitely "hip", in a lot of peoples' eyes.
> 8 8 11 28 -- Aint No Mountian High Enough - Gaye & Terrell
Loved this version. Hated Diana Ross' of 1970. Still feel this way.
> 10 25 -- -- -- Alfie - Dionne Warwick
Not one of my favorites by her, or by Cher.
> 15 19 25 29 -- A Little Bit Slower - Jon & Robin
I really liked this song a lot. The piano sounds like it is lifted directly from
"Cherry Cherry" by Neil Diamond. In fact, since Neil was a hot songwriter then, after
his Monkees success, I thought that this was another of his songs. This song didn't
stay around too long on Washington stations, probably due to risque lyrics.
> 16 22 30 -- -- She'd Rather Be With Me - Turtles
Cousin Duffy of WPGC introduced this song as the station's "Best Bet" during his weekly
countdown show by saying that he thought this would be "the biggest hit the Turtles have
had". But "Happy Together" (3 weeks at #1 on Billboard) was a tough act to follow, and
this record fell short. It did chart second highest on Billboard, at #3.
> 17 14 28 -- -- 7 Rooms of Gloom - Four Tops
I think the flip side of this was "I'll Turn to Stone". At any rate, whatever "I'll
Turn to Stone" was the flip side of was a two-sided hit on Washington area radio. If
this is indeed "I'll Turn to Stone"'s flip, I'm surprised it wasn't a two-sided hit in
Motown.
> 24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
First song I ever heard by this group. The previous year, I had heard a song called
"Suspicions" by the Sidekicks, a Southern New Jersey group. I often tried to guess who
was doing a new song, if it hadn't been introduced beforehand. I had never heard a
followup record by the Sidekicks, but I thought that this was finally it. Until the
title (which turned to not be "Have You Seen My Wife, Mr. Jones?", as I had also
guessed) and artist were announced after the song was over. I think this was another
Best Bet being unveiled on Cousin Duffy's countdown show, perhaps a week or two after
the Turtle's new song.
> 31 -- -- -- -- Dont Sleep in the Subway - Petula Clark
I read somewhere once that Petula Clark, though British, made her records to appeal to
American audiences. "Downtown" areas are called that, I read, because many cities have
numbered street names (5th Avenue, 59th Street, etc), and this is the area of the
lowest-numbered streets ("down" on the number scale). But this practice was unheard of
in England. And in England, what the people in America called "the subway" is called
"the tubes". Although "subway" has another meaning in England - an underground walkway
for pedestrians.
> -- -- 17 15 25 We Had a Good Thing - Cyrkle
I loved this song. I especially liked the Chipmunk-like speeded up vocals. Twenty-five
years later, I learned that this song was written by Neil Sedaka and Howard Greenfield.
A new girl that came to our school the next fall and became well-regarded by others as
a good judge of what was "hip" and what was not hated this song. So I felt that I had
to change my opinion of it, too. Other songs she hated that I loved included "I Feel
Good, I Feel Bad" by the Lewis and Clarke Expedition and "Green Tambourine" by the Lemon
Pipers.
> -- -- -- -- 11 Love I Saw In You - Miracles
Despite the especial popularity of soul songs on the Washington area stations,
especially WINX, this song did not get played much. Too bad, because it was one of my
favorites by this group. Even today, I hear songs by this group that I don't like, such
as "More Love" and "Ooh Baby, Baby", much more frequently than ones like this and "Come
Around Here, I'm the One You Need". (Maybe it's the fault of Kim Carnes and Linda
Ronstadt for making them popular again.)
Andrew Rogers
In article <336C9C...@philly.infi.net> Regina Litman <rsli...@philly.infi.net> writes:
>> WKNR (DETROIT) KEENER 13 HITS MUSIC GUIDE
>> May 1st-May29th 1967
>>
>
'PTR had played "My Best Friend" quite a bit a few months earlier (it peaked
at #103 nationally, so it must have been getting airplay in some other
regional markets), so I was familiar with Jefferson Airplane. But the
good-timey Peter-Paul-and-Mary-meets-Lovin'-Spoonful sound of their earlier
single didn't prepare me for this blast of futuristic noise, not the first
hint at a new era (the Yardbirds' "Shapes Of Things" and the Byrds' "Eight
Miles High" were harbingers a year earlier) but definitely the notice that
it had arrived for good.
Lyrics and chords - only four of the latter, but it's structured weirdly
so the verses and choruses are all different - are at Andrew's Ace Archives.
>> 15 19 25 29 -- A Little Bit Slower - Jon & Robin
>
>I really liked this song a lot. The piano sounds like it is lifted directly
>from "Cherry Cherry" by Neil Diamond.
Because it more or less is. This catchy little piece of fluff was written
by Wayne Carson Thompson, who also wrote the most successful song (worldwide)
of 1967: the Box Tops' "The Letter". I haven't had an excuse to mention
J&R's labelmates the Five Americans in some time, so I'll point out that
Robin later married 5A drummer Jimmy Wright.
>> 16 22 30 -- -- She'd Rather Be With Me - Turtles
>
>Cousin Duffy of WPGC introduced this song as the station's "Best Bet" during
>his weekly countdown show by saying that he thought this would be "the
>biggest hit the Turtles have had".
Worldwide, it actually was - "Happy Together" was only a modest hit in
Europe, while "She'd Rather Be With Me" was a smash. Both of these, plus
several other Turtles songs, are at Andrew's Ace Archives.
>> 17 14 28 -- -- 7 Rooms of Gloom - Four Tops
>
>I think the flip side of this was "I'll Turn to Stone".
Correct. Double-sided hits were a rarity at Motown - the Temptations, Four
Tops, and Supremes had exactly one each - and this was their turn. The A
side, "7 Rooms Of Gloom", was one of the few times H-D-H shared writing
credits with anyone else, in this case R. Dean Taylor.
>> 24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
>
>First song I ever heard by this group.
I used to subscribe to _Billboard_, and knew from their overseas charts that
the Bee Gees had been popular in Australia for years, so I didn't buy the
rumors that this was the Beatles under an alias. My bar band once performed
this as a medley with "Timothy" (both at AAA), but enough about that - the
real prize here is the B-side, "I Can't See Nobody" (also at AAA), still my
favorite Bee Gees song 30 years and innumerable styles later.
Andrew
John or Max
Regina Litman <rsli...@philly.infi.net> wrote:
>> 10 25 -- -- -- Alfie - Dionne Warwick
>Not one of my favorites by her, or by Cher.
It wasn't a favorite of mine either -- when it was out (and I used to
buy all the singles of both DW and Cher. But these days, I like the
song a lot better.
>> 31 -- -- -- -- Dont Sleep in the Subway - Petula Clark
>I read somewhere once that Petula Clark, though British, made her records to appeal to
>American audiences. "Downtown" areas are called that, I read, because many cities have
>numbered street names (5th Avenue, 59th Street, etc), and this is the area of the
>lowest-numbered streets ("down" on the number scale). But this practice was unheard of
>in England. And in England, what the people in America called "the subway" is called
>"the tubes". Although "subway" has another meaning in England - an underground walkway
>for pedestrians.
The things one learns on rmrprb! I didn't know that's why we call it
"downtown!"
I read awhile ago that Tony Hatch, while writing the melody of the
song, could not come up with lyrics -- his wife, Jackie Trent, usually
did them. So while working out the song, the only thing he could think
of to fit the title line was "Don't sh*t in the custard, darling."
>> -- -- 17 15 25 We Had a Good Thing - Cyrkle
>I loved this song. I especially liked the Chipmunk-like speeded up vocals. Twenty-five
>years later, I learned that this song was written by Neil Sedaka and Howard Greenfield.
> A new girl that came to our school the next fall and became well-regarded by others as
>a good judge of what was "hip" and what was not hated this song. So I felt that I had
>to change my opinion of it, too. Other songs she hated that I loved included "I Feel
>Good, I Feel Bad" by the Lewis and Clarke Expedition and "Green Tambourine" by the Lemon
>Pipers.
I look back and remember exactly the type of dynamic you're speaking
of. I hated being told what I could like and what I couldn't. But I
bought into it rather than buck the intense peer pressure to be
"cool." Actually, it was more what I could affirm that I liked
(Beatles, Jefferson Airplane, Aretha Franklin, Buffalo Springfield)
and what I had to stay in the closet and like (Cher, Petula Clark,
Paul Revere & the Raiders).
>> -- -- -- -- 11 Love I Saw In You - Miracles
>Despite the especial popularity of soul songs on the Washington area stations,
>especially WINX, this song did not get played much. Too bad, because it was one of my
>favorites by this group. Even today, I hear songs by this group that I don't like, such
>as "More Love" and "Ooh Baby, Baby", much more frequently than ones like this and "Come
>Around Here, I'm the One You Need". (Maybe it's the fault of Kim Carnes and Linda
>Ronstadt for making them popular again.)
I'm afraid I'm me-too-ing a lot, but coincidentally "The Love I
Saw..." and "Come Round Here..." are my favorites by Smokey Robinson &
the Miracles, too!
John Frank
Gallant
In Article <336828...@cris.com>, "C.E.STINSON" <ite...@cris.com> wrote:
>WKNR (DETROIT) KEENER 13 HITS MUSIC GUIDE
>May 1st-May29th 1967
>
> 2 10 31 -- -- Can't Take My Eyes Off You - Frankie Valli
Though played way too often on oldies radio, it's still a terrific song!
> 5 11 22 KS -- Windy - Association
Great song by a great band! Of course, my favorites by this band are ALONG
CAME MARY and EVERYTHING THAT TOUCHES YOU.
> 7 3 1 1 7 Release Me - Englebert Humperdinck
I never really liked this song, but his followups were fantastic. A few
months later, THE LAST WALTZ was released and to this day, I feel that this
is his best recording.
>10 25 -- -- -- Alfie - Dionne Warwick
Personally, I feel that Dionne Warwick is one of the greatest female
vocalists of the 1960s. Favorites of mine were PROMISES- PROMISES, THEME
FROM VALLEY OF THE DOLLS (moving lyrics), TRAINS, BOATS AND PLANES, ANYONE
WHO HAD A HEART ('64, I believe), and PAPER MACHE (1970)- played in New York
City for a couple weeks).
>11 7 6 3 5 Him or Me - Paul Revere & Raiders
This is their BEST recording! I still go bonkers hearing the chestnut.
>12 28 -- -- -- Sunday Will Never Be The Same
>23 26 -- -- -- Tramp - Otis & Carla
Can you believe that the NYC female rap group SALT-N-PEPA had a cover
version of this song? Yuck....
>27 -- -- -- -- Together - Intruders
A fine soul record! Many years later, I think it was Tower of Power (or
some big group like that) who had a faithful rendition of this song. Very
uplifting tune.
>30 -- -- -- -- Tracks of My Tears - Johnny Rivers
Awful! I do have the picture sleeve 45 single of this song (though, not
sure why). This is Johnny's worst (along with BABY I NEED YOUR LOVIN'). I
was just tired of hearing remake after remake from this guy. However,
SUMMER RAIN in late 1967 was a great song. I remember that this tune went
to pos 14 on the HOT 100. I'm sure the other two were top 10 hits....played
way too often.
>-- 12 10 13 19 Shake a Tail Feather - James & Bobby Purify
I never heard this song on the radio. The only version I ever knew of this
was done by IKE AND TINA TURNER as an album cut (the name of this album
escapes me).
>-- 13 12 5 3 Friday on My Mind - Easybeats
>-- 15 16 17 21 Here Comes My Baby - Tremeloes
Both of these are treasures. The latter song was especially groovey because
of it's cool Caribbean sound.
>-- 16 13 8 6 All I Need - Temptations
Now why in the world won't today's oldies stations play this song? This was
a Top 10 pop hit! Their followup YOU'RE MY EVERYTHING was great too- with
Eddie Kendricks swapping lead vocals with David Ruffin. Gotta get my
Temptations anthology LP out now.....
>-- -- 21 22 28 Six O'Clock - Lovin Spoonful
Yuck!!!!!! I am waiting for someone to give me the right bid for this 45
single with picture sleeve (near mint condition). I bought this 45 with
sleeve years later just because of the interesting cartoon drawing on the
cover. Give me SUMMER IN THE CITY or YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE SO NICE over
this one, anyday.
>-- -- -- 20 20 Music to Watch Girls By - Andy Williams
BOB CREWE GENERATION had an instrumental version of this song- perhaps
released before ANDY WILLIAM's version, but not sure. I liked BOB CREWE's
rendition less cheezy.
>-- -- -- 24 30 Cant Seem to Make You Mine - Seeds
Oh, yes! Wonderful psychedelic record. I call this early punk.
>-- -- -- -- 13 You Got What It Takes - Dave Clark 5
These guys still had it in them in 1967- as this was another (and I believe
their last) Top 10 pop hit. This 45 single with picture sleeve (mint
condition) will never be sold!
>-- -- -- -- 14 The Happening - Supremes
Weird intro to this song, but I liked it. I believe there was a movie
called THE HAPPENING too- maybe this song was the title track?!? Anyone
know...
MIKE GALLANT
gal...@utkux.utcc.utk.edu
Regina Litman
Andrew Rogers wrote:
>
> In article <336C9C...@philly.infi.net> Regina Litman <rsli...@philly.infi.net> writes:
> >> May 1st-May29th 1967
> >>
> >
> >Great new song! Great new group! I knew it was the dawning of a new era...
>
> 'PTR had played "My Best Friend" quite a bit a few months earlier (it peaked
> at #103 nationally, so it must have been getting airplay in some other
> regional markets), so I was familiar with Jefferson Airplane. But the
> good-timey Peter-Paul-and-Mary-meets-Lovin'-Spoonful sound of their earlier
> single didn't prepare me for this blast of futuristic noise, not the first
> hint at a new era (the Yardbirds' "Shapes Of Things" and the Byrds' "Eight
> Miles High" were harbingers a year earlier) but definitely the notice that
> it had arrived for good.
I remember "My Best Friend" from the _Surrealistic Pillow_ album. In the 1970s, I
thought I had a great trivia question dreamed up - What two different groups each had
different songs called "Somebody to Love" and "My Best Friend"? Until I discovered that
the song by Queen was called "You're My Best Friend".
_Surrealistic Pillow_ also contains the song called "Today" that I mentioned in a recent
message as a song that should have been played in between "Yesterday" by the Beatles and
"Tomorrow" by the Strawberry Alarm Clock. (Replacing the different song called "Today"
done by the New Christy Minstrels in 1964.)
> >> 17 14 28 -- -- 7 Rooms of Gloom - Four Tops
> >
> >I think the flip side of this was "I'll Turn to Stone".
>
> Correct. Double-sided hits were a rarity at Motown - the Temptations, Four
> Tops, and Supremes had exactly one each - and this was their turn. The A
> side, "7 Rooms Of Gloom", was one of the few times H-D-H shared writing
> credits with anyone else, in this case R. Dean Taylor.
You'll have to refresh my memory on this one. I was not a close follower of the
Temptations' career, so what was their two-sided hit? And, for that matter, though I
followed the Supremes pretty closely, I can't think of what their two-sided hit was,
either.
> >> 24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
> >
> >First song I ever heard by this group.
>
> I used to subscribe to _Billboard_, and knew from their overseas charts that
> the Bee Gees had been popular in Australia for years, so I didn't buy the
> rumors that this was the Beatles under an alias. My bar band once performed
> this as a medley with "Timothy" (both at AAA), but enough about that - the
> real prize here is the B-side, "I Can't See Nobody" (also at AAA), still my
> favorite Bee Gees song 30 years and innumerable styles later.
I love the song "I Can't See Nobody" (which I have on one of their greatest hits albums)
much better than "N.Y. Mining Disaster". I wish that one had been the A-side.
Regina Litman
> >May 1st-May29th 1967
> >
>
>
> Personally, I feel that Dionne Warwick is one of the greatest female
> vocalists of the 1960s. Favorites of mine were PROMISES- PROMISES, THEME
> FROM VALLEY OF THE DOLLS (moving lyrics), TRAINS, BOATS AND PLANES, ANYONE
> WHO HAD A HEART ('64, I believe), and PAPER MACHE (1970)- played in New York
> City for a couple weeks).
I like "Promises Promises", "Trains and Boats and Planes" (Dionne Warwick's version and
also the one by Billy J. Kramer and the Dakotas), and "Paper [or Papier] Mache", which
also got a little airplay in the Washington area. I am neutral on "Anyone Who Had a
Heart". I don't like "Theme from Valley of the Dolls" at all, though I realize it is
one of her few hits (maybe her only hit) not written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David.
> >23 26 -- -- -- Tramp - Otis & Carla
>
> Can you believe that the NYC female rap group SALT-N-PEPA had a cover
> version of this song? Yuck....
I am not familiar with Salt-n-Pepa's stuff, though I've heard of them. I think the Otis
and Carla song was lifted from a record that was out earlier, and my mind seems to
retrieve the title "Papa Was Too" and the artist Joe Tex.
> >30 -- -- -- -- Tracks of My Tears - Johnny Rivers
>
> Awful! I do have the picture sleeve 45 single of this song (though, not
> sure why). This is Johnny's worst (along with BABY I NEED YOUR LOVIN'). I
> was just tired of hearing remake after remake from this guy. However,
> SUMMER RAIN in late 1967 was a great song. I remember that this tune went
> to pos 14 on the HOT 100. I'm sure the other two were top 10 hits....played
> way too often.
The instrumental background of this song reminds me of a vacuum cleaner. If Johnny
Rivers had to do remakes, I prefer the Chuck Berry ones ("Memphis", "Maybelline") and
other 50s-types ("Seventh Son", "Mountain of Love") from earlier in his career, rather
than these two Motown ones. I loved two "originals" (maybe not written by him, but
never a hit for anyone before) he did in the 1966-67 time period - "Summer Rain" and
"Poor Side of Town". Also, "Muddy Water" (not sure if that was a remake) and "Secret
Agent Man", both from 1966.
> >-- 12 10 13 19 Shake a Tail Feather - James & Bobby Purify
>
> I never heard this song on the radio. The only version I ever knew of this
> was done by IKE AND TINA TURNER as an album cut (the name of this album
> escapes me).
There's also a pre-Beatles version of this song that I've heard as an oldie by a group
called the Five Du-Tones (I may have represented this name wrong). I like the James and
Bobby Purify version better, perhaps because it adapted a more contemporary sound.
> >-- 16 13 8 6 All I Need - Temptations
>
> Now why in the world won't today's oldies stations play this song? This was
> a Top 10 pop hit! Their followup YOU'RE MY EVERYTHING was great too- with
> Eddie Kendricks swapping lead vocals with David Ruffin. Gotta get my
> Temptations anthology LP out now.....
I agree that "All I Need" and "You're My Everything" are great songs. Also, "Ain't to
Proud to Beg" from 1966. Let's send "My Girl", "It's Growing", and "The Way You Do the
Things You Do" on a leave of absence and use these three to fill in.
> >-- -- 21 22 28 Six O'Clock - Lovin Spoonful
>
> Yuck!!!!!! I am waiting for someone to give me the right bid for this 45
> single with picture sleeve (near mint condition). I bought this 45 with
> sleeve years later just because of the interesting cartoon drawing on the
> cover. Give me SUMMER IN THE CITY or YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE SO NICE over
> this one, anyday.
Give me "Summer in the City" and "You Didn't Have to be So Nice" (which seems to be the
most-played Lovin' Spoonful oldie on WOGL) AND "Six O'Clock". I love them all, and
more!
> >-- -- -- 20 20 Music to Watch Girls By - Andy Williams
>
> BOB CREWE GENERATION had an instrumental version of this song- perhaps
> released before ANDY WILLIAM's version, but not sure. I liked BOB CREWE's
> rendition less cheezy.
The Bob Crewe Generation instrumental version predates the Andy Williams vocal version,
but the origins of this song were as a Pepsi ad. My guess is that the lyrics were
written after the Crewe version was already a hit.
> >-- -- -- 24 30 Cant Seem to Make You Mine - Seeds
>
> Oh, yes! Wonderful psychedelic record. I call this early punk.
Several people here have mentioned having heard this song on their local Top 40
stations, but the ones in Washington never played this one. The only Seeds song they
ever played was the earlier "Pushin' Too Hard". I finally heard this one on a Rhino
Nuggest cassette I bought in 1987.
> >-- -- -- -- 14 The Happening - Supremes
>
> Weird intro to this song, but I liked it. I believe there was a movie
> called THE HAPPENING too- maybe this song was the title track?!? Anyone
> know...
Yes, this song came from the movie of the same name.
Andrew Rogers
In article <336E84...@philly.infi.net> Regina Litman <rsli...@philly.infi.net> writes:
>> >> 17 14 28 -- -- 7 Rooms of Gloom - Four Tops
>> >
>> >I think the flip side of this was "I'll Turn to Stone".
>>
>> Correct. Double-sided hits were a rarity at Motown - the Temptations, Four
>> Tops, and Supremes had exactly one each - and this was their turn. The A
>> side, "7 Rooms Of Gloom", was one of the few times H-D-H shared writing
>> credits with anyone else, in this case R. Dean Taylor.
I neglected to mention that it was also unusual for Motown to milk the
same formula for four consecutive singles; usually they stopped at three.
>You'll have to refresh my memory on this one. I was not a close follower
>of the Temptations' career, so what was their two-sided hit?
Well, "hit" is stretching it a bit... "double-sided chart single" would
have been more accurate. Anyway, in the Temptations' case it was "My Baby"
b/w "Don't Look Back" (#13/#83); the B-side was a rare lead vocal from
Paul Williams. The Supremes' entry was the hilarious "No Matter What
Sign You Are" b/w "The Young Folks" (#31/#69). For the record, this
Four Tops single peaked at #14/#76.
>> >> 24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
>> >
>> ... the real prize here is the B-side, "I Can't See Nobody" (also at AAA),
>> still my favorite Bee Gees song 30 years and innumerable styles later.
>
>I love the song "I Can't See Nobody" (which I have on one of their greatest
>hits albums) much better than "N.Y. Mining Disaster".
Recommended: "Bee Gees First" album, indeed available on CD although hard to
find - unlike their other (US) Atco albums, it's on a Polygram Special
Products label (Rebound 314 520 279-2) which tends to elide standard
distribution channels. Also included: "Holiday" and the much-covered "To
Love Somebody", plus the original versions of "Red Chair Fade Away" and
"Turn Of The Century", both covered by the Cyrkle.
> I wish that one had been the A-side.
It did get considerable R&B airplay on its own, and made a brief appearance
on the Bubbling Under chart.
Andrew
Andrew Rogers
In article <336E88...@philly.infi.net> Regina Litman <rsli...@philly.infi.net> writes:
>> >WKNR (DETROIT) KEENER 13 HITS MUSIC GUIDE
>> >May 1st-May29th 1967
>> >23 26 -- -- -- Tramp - Otis & Carla
>>
>> Can you believe that the NYC female rap group SALT-N-PEPA had a cover
>> version of this song? Yuck....
>
>I am not familiar with Salt-n-Pepa's stuff, though I've heard of them. I
>think the Otis and Carla song was lifted from a record that was out earlier,
>and my mind seems to retrieve the title "Papa Was Too" and the artist Joe Tex.
Similar subject matter, different songs. Otis and Carla's "Tramp" was a
remake of a Lowell Fulsom semi-hit (#52) from just a few months earlier; the
original is on Soul Shots, Vol 4. Fulsom (also spelled Fulson) didn't much
care for O&C's remake; he felt it made fun of what he had intended as a
serious song.
>> >30 -- -- -- -- Tracks of My Tears - Johnny Rivers
>>
>... I loved two "originals" (maybe not written by him, but never a hit for
>anyone before) he did in the 1966-67 time period - "Summer Rain" and
>"Poor Side of Town".
James Hendricks wrote "Summer Rain" and its followup (one of my JR favorites),
"Look To Your Soul". Johnny Rivers co-wrote "Poor Side Of Town" (with Lou
Adler); lyrics and chords are at AAA.
> Also, "Muddy Water" (not sure if that was a remake) and "Secret
>Agent Man", both from 1966.
"Muddy Water" is a country standard (he had also covered Buck Owens' "Under
Your Spell Again"); "Secret Agent Man" was written by P.F. Sloan and Steve
Barri.
>> >-- 12 10 13 19 Shake a Tail Feather - James & Bobby Purify
>>
>There's also a pre-Beatles version of this song that I've heard as an oldie
>by a group called the Five Du-Tones (I may have represented this name wrong).
That's correct - their version (as far as I know, the original) of this
much-covered song is available on the "Hairspray" soundtrack.
>> >-- -- 21 22 28 Six O'Clock - Lovin Spoonful
>>
>> Yuck!!!!!!...
>
>Give me "Summer in the City" and "You Didn't Have to be So Nice" (which seems
>to be the most-played Lovin' Spoonful oldie on WOGL) AND "Six O'Clock".
All three are at AAA. And, to tie in with the "controversial songs" thread,
I'm surprised none of the bluenoses listened carefully to this one - not that
I picked up on the subtext at age 14 myself. The narrator met someone, went
home with her, had sex with her, and was expecting to stay the rest of the
night - but she kicked him out afterwards, and he's now wandering the streets
at 6 AM, regretting that he hadn't gotten to know her better first.
>> >-- -- -- 24 30 Cant Seem to Make You Mine - Seeds
>>
>Several people here have mentioned having heard this song on their local
>Top 40 stations, but the ones in Washington never played this one. The
>only Seeds song they ever played was the earlier "Pushin' Too Hard".
Actually, "Can't Seem..." predated "Pushin' Too Hard" (the fourth-greatest
rock 'n' roll record ever made) by a year or so, but was only an L.A.-area hit
at the time. When the followup to PTH, "Mr. Farmer" (another controversial
song - one guess what us beat-crazed teens thought the farmer grew), stalled
at #86, GNP-Crescendo dusted this one off and it became the Seeds' second-
biggest hit, peaking at #41. (PTH peaked at #36, but like "The Little Black
Egg" which I haven't had an excuse to mention in a couple weeks, it hit in
different markets at different times and its peak chart position consequently
*severely* underestimated its true popularity.)
>> >-- -- -- -- 14 The Happening - Supremes
>
>Yes, this song came from the movie of the same name.
Another one that H-D-H shared writing credits on - this time with Frank
DeVol, arranger of the movie soundtrack. *Not* one of my favorite Supremes
singles, but somebody must have liked it - it was their tenth US #1 in
thirteen tries.
Andrew
Andrew Rogers
In article <336FD8...@philly.infi.net> Regina Litman <rsli...@philly.infi.net> writes:
>> >> >> 17 14 28 -- -- 7 Rooms of Gloom - Four Tops
>> I neglected to mention that it was also unusual for Motown to milk the
>> same formula for four consecutive singles; usually they stopped at three.
>I had never thought of "7 Rooms of Gloom" as being in the same formula as
>"Reach Out", "Standing in the Shadows of Love", and "Bernadette", but now
>that you mention it, I can certainly see the pattern.
Well, with each successive iteration H-D-H recycled less and less from the
prototype, but I still think this was "Revenge Of The Return Of The Son Of
'Reach Out, I'll Be There'", and the fact that all four were basically in
the same key and permutated the same handful of stock H-D-H chord progressions
didn't help any. In fact, I probably should transcribe 'em for Andrew's Ace
Archives...
Oh, yes, I checked - it was "I'll Turn To Stone" that was co-written by R.
Dean Taylor.
>I think I know the Temptations' song "My Baby" (did she grow up a little bit
>to become "My Girl"? Just kidding!)
Whose hair styles are out of this world
Whether its straight or bouffant or it's curled
My baby (my baby), pretty baby
>... but I don't think I know "Don't Look Back".
Fairly big R&B hit, not much pop airplay.
>> >> >> 24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
>>
>> Recommended: "Bee Gees First" album, indeed available on CD although hard to
>> find...
>I love both "Holiday" and "To Love Somebody". I will have to look for this CD.
It shows up in the weirdest places - I got mine in a $4.99 bin in a
supermarket, yet the local Tower's online CDs-in-print terminal doesn't
list it. If you give up trying to find it in stores, it *does* appear in
the Collector's Choice catalog and probably available from one of the online
ordering services as well.
A related oddity that I picked up for $2.99 at Circuit City: "More Great
Songs", which despite its disco-era cover photo is actually a repackage of
some of their Australian material from '64-'66 (cf. "Rare, Precious, and
Beautiful" from the early 70s). The sound quality bites; the songs and
performances don't - amazing stuff for kids still in their mid-teens.
Andrew
Regina Litman
Andrew Rogers wrote:
>
> In article <336E84...@philly.infi.net> Regina Litman <rsli...@philly.infi.net> writes:
> >> >> 17 14 28 -- -- 7 Rooms of Gloom - Four Tops
> >> >
> >>
> >> Correct. Double-sided hits were a rarity at Motown - the Temptations, Four
> >> Tops, and Supremes had exactly one each - and this was their turn. The A
> >> side, "7 Rooms Of Gloom", was one of the few times H-D-H shared writing
> >> credits with anyone else, in this case R. Dean Taylor.
>
> same formula for four consecutive singles; usually they stopped at three.
I had never thought of "7 Rooms of Gloom" as being in the same formula as "Reach Out",
"Standing in the Shadows of Love", and "Bernadette", but now that you mention it, I can
certainly see the pattern. I have always linked those other three together, however.
> >You'll have to refresh my memory on this one. I was not a close follower
> >of the Temptations' career, so what was their two-sided hit?
>
> Well, "hit" is stretching it a bit... "double-sided chart single" would
> have been more accurate. Anyway, in the Temptations' case it was "My Baby"
> b/w "Don't Look Back" (#13/#83); the B-side was a rare lead vocal from
> Paul Williams. The Supremes' entry was the hilarious "No Matter What
> Sign You Are" b/w "The Young Folks" (#31/#69). For the record, this
> Four Tops single peaked at #14/#76.
I think I know the Temptations' song "My Baby" (did she grow up a little bit to become
"My Girl"? Just kidding!), but I don't think I know "Don't Look Back". I do remember
both of the Supremes songs you mention but did not remember them as being a two sides of
the same single.
> >> >> 24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
> >> >
> >> ... the real prize here is the B-side, "I Can't See Nobody" (also at AAA),
> >> still my favorite Bee Gees song 30 years and innumerable styles later.
> >
> >I love the song "I Can't See Nobody" (which I have on one of their greatest
> >hits albums) much better than "N.Y. Mining Disaster".
>
> Recommended: "Bee Gees First" album, indeed available on CD although hard to
> find - unlike their other (US) Atco albums, it's on a Polygram Special
> Products label (Rebound 314 520 279-2) which tends to elide standard
> distribution channels. Also included: "Holiday" and the much-covered "To
> Love Somebody", plus the original versions of "Red Chair Fade Away" and
> "Turn Of The Century", both covered by the Cyrkle.
I love both "Holiday" and "To Love Somebody". I will have to look for this CD. I also
have the Cyrkle anthology CD, _Red Rubber Ball: A Collection_ (not to be confused with
their first album back in 1966, which was just called _Red Rubber Ball_), and their
versions of both of these songs are on it.
> > I wish that one had been the A-side.
>
> It did get considerable R&B airplay on its own, and made a brief appearance
> on the Bubbling Under chart.
R&B, eh? By 1967, it was rare for a white act to be played on the "soul" stations in
Washington. WOOK, WOL, and if they were not in a gospel format, WUST did play
"Groovin'" by the Rascals and possibly "The Letter" by the Box Tops that year. I did
not listen to the soul stations regularly, but some kids at school did and reported on
them. And their top tens and pick hits were printed in the local paper each week.
Rick Schubert
>> 24 29 -- -- -- NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
> Until the title (which turned to not be "Have You Seen My Wife, Mr. Jones?",
> as I had also guessed)
Actually, the full title is:
New York Mining Disaster 1941 (Have You Seen My Wife, Mr. Jones)
- Rick Schubert (rick.s...@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM)
YOBAG
In article <gallant.1...@news.utk.edu>, gal...@utk.edu (Gallant)
writes:
>>-- -- -- -- 14 The Happening - Supremes
>
>Weird intro to this song, but I liked it. I believe there was a movie
>called THE HAPPENING too- maybe this song was the title track?!? Anyone
>know...
>
>
You are correct and I saw the movie. It was bad, something about a madcap
group of theives.