1960s Trivia
Rocky
1) What does the word "Toke" mean in Brewer & Shipley's "One Toke Over The
Line"?
2) On the original release of "Ticket To Ride" by The Beatles, something is
written under the title.
a) What does it say?
b) Why is it there?
3) What famous female singer later became an actress and starred as the
wife of a police officer in a series of four movies?
Eric Ramon
2 is probably "from the film Eight Arms to Hold You", the working
title of what ended up being called Help!
Jan Dean
Jan Dean
> 1) What does the word "Toke" mean in Brewer & Shipley's "One Toke Over The
> Line"?
A puff on a marihuana cigarette.
> 2) On the original release of "Ticket To Ride" by The Beatles, something is
> written under the title.
>
> a) What does it say?
>
> b) Why is it there?
From the film "Eight Arms to Hold You."
Because "Help!" was neither written nor picked as the title for the
Beatles' 2nd movie.
> 3) What famous female singer later became an actress and starred as the
> wife of a police officer in a series of four movies?
Darlene "Not as Famous As I Ought to Be" Love in the Lethal Weapon
franchise.
Jan Dean
OMIGOD! Somebody stole my answers!
Rocky
news:b21c75a8-f37d-4171...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com:
Yup
From The United Artists Release
"Eight Arms To Hold You"
Eight Arms To Hold You was the original name for the film Help.
Rocky
news:4b03520b$0$17914$6d36...@usenetnewsserver.com:
Well done on numbers 2 and 3.
Surprisingly, 1 is in question.
Yes, a toke is a puff of marijuana, but according to Brewer and Shipley,
that is not what it meant in this song. Believe it or not.
So, still looking for answer to number 1.
Jan Dean
> Well done on numbers 2 and 3.
>
> Surprisingly, 1 is in question.
>
> Yes, a toke is a puff of marijuana, but according to Brewer and Shipley,
> that is not what it meant in this song. Believe it or not.
>
> So, still looking for answer to number 1.
Who are you going to believe, them or me?
Roger Ford
>
>
>2) On the original release of "Ticket To Ride" by The Beatles, something is
>written under the title.
>
>a) What does it say?
>
The wording underneath the title on the original release of "Ticket To
Ride" is as follows :-
TICKET TO RIDE
(Lennon - McCartney)
THE BEATLES
MADE IN GT BRITAIN
ROGER FORD
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rwalker
According to the New Shorter Oxford Dictionary, toke can mean: 1. a
piece of bread, 2. A puff on a cigarette, especially a marijuana
cigarette, or 3. a gratuity.
So B and S had either eaten too much bread, left one too many tips, or
they really were singing about pot and are pulling everyone's legs.
I go for the latter.
Rocky
news:4b0380c...@text.news.virginmedia.com:
You have a copy that was corrected after the initial relase mistake was
caught.
The initial release copy has the following under the song title:
(John Lennon-Paul McCartney)
From The United Artists Release
"Eight Arms To Hold You"
posting .jpg to the usual place
Rocky
news:cj07g518cuvn9bq6f...@4ax.com:
You must live in California
Answer will be posted tomorrow.
Eric Ramon
> On 17 Nov 2009 22:35:43 GMT, Rocky <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >2) On the original release of "Ticket To Ride" by The Beatles, something is
> >written under the title.
>
> >a) What does it say?
>
> The wording underneath the title on the original release of "Ticket To
> Ride" is as follows :-
>
> TICKET TO RIDE
> (Lennon - McCartney)
> THE BEATLES
>
> MADE IN GT BRITAIN
>
> ROGER FORD
> -----------------------
>
> "Spam Free Zone" - to combat unwanted automatic spamming I have added
> Please delete same before responding.Thank you!
Capitol's said something else.
Roger Ford
>mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote in
>news:4b0380c...@text.news.virginmedia.com:
>
>> On 17 Nov 2009 22:35:43 GMT, Rocky <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>2) On the original release of "Ticket To Ride" by The Beatles,
>>>something is written under the title.
>>>
>>
>>
>>>a) What does it say?
>>>
>> The wording underneath the title on the original release of "Ticket To
>> Ride" is as follows :-
>>
>> TICKET TO RIDE
>> (Lennon - McCartney)
>> THE BEATLES
>>
>> MADE IN GT BRITAIN
>>
>You have a copy that was corrected after the initial relase mistake was
>caught.
>
Sorry I don't have a copy at all (I hate the song) but I'm quoting
from the definite original release of the single on UK Parlophone 5265
and what it says on the label is what I quoted
>The initial release copy has the following under the song title:
>
>
>(John Lennon-Paul McCartney)
>From The United Artists Release
>"Eight Arms To Hold You"
>
That's the initial US Capitol issue which came out a week later than
the UK release
Roger Ford
<ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 17, 9:12=A0pm, maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote:
>> On 17 Nov 2009 22:35:43 GMT, Rocky <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >2) On the original release of "Ticket To Ride" by The Beatles, something=
> is
>> >written under the title.
>>
>> >a) What does it say?
>>
>> The wording underneath the title on the original release of "Ticket To
>> Ride" is as follows :-
>>
>> TICKET TO RIDE
>> (Lennon - McCartney)
>> THE BEATLES
>>
>> MADE IN GT BRITAIN
>>
>> ROGER FORD
>> -----------------------
>>
>> "Spam Free Zone" - to combat unwanted automatic spamming I have added
>> an extra "b" in my e-mail address (maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk).
>> Please delete same before responding.Thank you!
>
>Capitol's said something else.
Capitol's is not the original release
ROGER FORD
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"Spam Free Zone" - to combat unwanted automatic spamming I have added
an extra "b" in my e-mail address (mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk).
Eric Ramon
:-) I knew that was what you were getting at. Because the parent
company is in England, by definition the English release has to be the
original release! Even if released the same day. I'm surprised there
was a week's difference. Was that, I wonder, due to having to send the
master tape (or a copy of it) by boat?? Thereby putting U.S.
production a week behind England?
50s
I think they had planes then, Eric.
Eric Ramon
sorry...I should have written that as "by f'***in' boat??"
Rocky
> On Nov 18, 9:26�am, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 18, 12:20�pm, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > On Nov 18, 2:31�am, maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote:
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>> > > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:04:55 -0800 (PST), Eric Ramon
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>> > > <ramon.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >On Nov 17, 9:12=A0pm, maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford)
>> > > >wrot
> e:
>> > > >> On 17 Nov 2009 22:35:43 GMT, Rocky <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > >> >2) On the original release of "Ticket To Ride" by The
>> > > >> >Beatles, so
> mething> > > > is
Is that where the little boats come from?
Len Blanks
Yes. We had flying boats too.
--
Len
I only appear to be dead. -- Hans Christian Anderson in a note left at
his bedside every night. He was intensely
afraid of being buried alive.
Rocky
> On 18 Nov 2009 02:25:41 GMT, Rocky <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
OK, time to reveal the answer to number one.
1) What does the word "Toke" mean in Brewer & Shipley's "One Toke
Over The Line"?
Well, supposedly during an interview, when Brewer & Shipley were asked
about the controversy regarding the word toke, and the resulting ban by
some stations in the US, they informed that the word toke was short for
token, and that this contention is supported by the line "sittin'
downtown in a railway station, one toke over the line"
In order to make such a claim, I suspect they were a couple of toke's
over the line, or eager to get around the ban.
Lawrence Welk thought the song was a gospel song, and had it performed on
his show, at the same time the US government had labeled them as
subversive.
Other articles quote B&S as REALLY saying
"When we wrote 'One Toke Over the Line,' I think we were one toke over
the line," says Shipley. "I considered [marijuana] a sort of a
sacrament..... If you listen to the lyrics of that song, 'one toke' was
just a metaphor. It's a song about excess. Too much of anything will
probably kill you."
"There are no documented cases of anybody ever overdosing on marijuana,"
adds Brewer, "but God knows, I've tried. It just can't be done."
rwalker
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the timing of U.S. and
British Beatles releases. sometimes the U.S. version would come out
first, sometimes the British.
50s
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:47:38 -0800 (PST), Eric Ramon
>
>
>
>
>
I can't believe it's not the boats.
Jan Dean
> OK, time to reveal the answer to number one.
>
> 1) What does the word "Toke" mean in Brewer & Shipley's "One Toke
> Over The Line"?
>
> Well, supposedly during an interview, when Brewer & Shipley were asked
> about the controversy regarding the word toke, and the resulting ban by
> some stations in the US, they informed that the word toke was short for
> token, and that this contention is supported by the line "sittin'
> downtown in a railway station, one toke over the line"
>
> In order to make such a claim, I suspect they were a couple of toke's
> over the line, or eager to get around the ban.
>
> Lawrence Welk thought the song was a gospel song, and had it performed on
> his show, at the same time the US government had labeled them as
> subversive.
So Messrs Brewer & Shipley decided to pull people's legs just to get
their silly song performed on the Lawrence Welk show.
Always good for a laugh.
> Other articles quote B&S as REALLY saying
>
> "When we wrote 'One Toke Over the Line,' I think we were one toke over
> the line," says Shipley. "I considered [marijuana] a sort of a
> sacrament..... If you listen to the lyrics of that song, 'one toke' was
> just a metaphor. It's a song about excess. Too much of anything will
> probably kill you."
> "There are no documented cases of anybody ever overdosing on marijuana,"
> adds Brewer, "but God knows, I've tried. It just can't be done."
A toke is a toke. It is not a "token."
So my answer is therefore correct, notwithstanding the obfuscation of
the songwriters.
Jan Dean
> :-) I knew that was what you were getting at. Because the parent
> company is in England, by definition the English release has to be the
> original release!
You will recall that a few of the songs on Revolver were released in the
U.S. before being released in England, as well as was Dizzy Miss Lizzy.
Phil Brown
Well, I think I can comment on this with some credibility-at least as
much as you can have on The Net-because I was the roadie for the guys
who played on and produced the record and can personally verify that
tokes were taken on the sessions.
Phil Brown
Tim
> rwalker <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote innews:cj07g518cuvn9bq6f...@4ax.com:> >>Jan Dean <jand...@surfcity.com> wrote in