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SavoyBG

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Working on a 1967 Top 100 for Digital Dream Door. This is just impossible,
there are so many significant records that were released in this year. Here is
my preliminary list, it's got about 75 more songs than I usually come up with
at first. There's almost 250 songs here.

Anybody notice anything here that was released before 1967?

Before anybody brings this up, "Hey Joe" by Hendrix is not here because it was
released on a single already in 1966 in the UK.

Any other comments or suggestions would be helpful. I could especially use some
help with the items that were big UK hits and never made it in the U.S., as to
if any of them are still considered essential items nowadays.

(I Wanna) Testify - Parliaments
A Day In The Life - Beatles
A Girl Like You - Young Rascals
A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - Monkees
A Natural Woman - Aretha Franklin
A Question Of Temperature - Balloon Farm
Ain't No Mountain High Enough - Marvin & Tammi
Alfie - Dionne Warwick
Alice's Restaurant Massacree - Arlo Guthrie
All I Need - Temptations
All You Need Is Love - Beatles
Alone Again Or - Love
Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie - Jay & the Techniques
Are You Experienced - Jimi Hendrix
Baby Come Back - Equals
Baby I Love You - Aretha Franklin
Baby. Now That I've Found You - Foundations
Back Door Man - Doors
Back Up Train - Al Green
Beggin' - Four Seasons
Bend Me, Shape Me - American Breed
Bernadette - Four Tops
Blue's Theme - Davie Allan & the Arrows
Bluebird - Buffalo Springfield
Boogaloo Down Broadway - Fantastic Johnny C
Born Under A Bad Sign - Albert King
Both Sides Now - Judy Collins
Bottle Of Wine - Fireballs
Break On Through - Doors
Bring It Up - James Brown
Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison
By The Time I Get To Phoenix - Glen Campbell
C'Mon Marianne - Four Seasons
Can't Take My Eyes Off You - Frankie Valli
Carrie-Anne - Hollies
Chain Of Fools - Aretha Franklin
Cold Sweat - James Brown
Come On Down To My Boat - Every Mother's Son
Creque Alley - Mamas & Papas
Dance To The Music - Sly & the Family Stone
Dandelion - Rolling Stones
Darlin' - Beach Boys
Daydream Believer - Monkees
Death Of A Clown - Dave Davies
Dedicated To The One I Love - Mamas & Papas
Different Drum - Stone Poneys
Do Right Woman, Do Right Man - Aretha Franklin
Don't Sleep In The Subway - Petula Clark
Dr. Feelgood - Aretha Franklin
Dry Your Eyes - Brenda & the Tabulations
Eight Men, Four Women - O.V. Wright
Everlasting Love - Love Affair
Everlasting Love - Tobert Knight
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love - Wilson Pickett
Excerpt From A Teenage Opera - Keith West
Expecting To Fly - Buffalo Springfield
Expressway To Your Heart - Soul Survivors
Fire - Jimi Hendrix
Flowers In The Rain - The Move
For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
Foxey Lady - Jimi Hendrix
Funky Broadway - Wilson Pickett
Gentle On My Mind - Glen Campbell
Get On Up - Esquires
Get Together - Youngbloods
Getting Better - Beatles
Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood
Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon - Neil Diamond
Good Thing - Paul Revere & the Raiders
Green Tambourine - Lemon Pipers
Groovin' - Young Rascals
Happy Together - Turtles
Hello Goodbye - Beatles
Here Comes My Baby - Tremeloes
Heroes And Villians - Beach Boys
Heroin - Velvet Underground & Nico
Hey Baby (They're Playing Our Song) - Buckinghams
Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson
Him Or Me (What's It Gonna Be) - Paul Revere & Raiders
Hole In My Shoe - Traffic
Honey Chile - Martha & the Vandellas
How Can I Be Sure - Young Rascals
Hypnotized - Linda Jones
I Am The Walrus - Beatles
I Can See For Miles - The Who
I Can't Stay Away From You - Impressions
I Dig Rock And Roll Music - Peter, Paul & Mary
I Don't Need Your Lovin' - Chocolate Watchband
I Feel Free - Cream
I Got Rhythm - Happenings
I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Gladys Knight & Pips
I Never Loved A Man - Aretha Franklin
I Say A Little Prayer - Dionne Warwick
I Second That Emotion - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
I Think We're Alone Now - Tommy James & the Shondells
I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder
I Wish It Would Rain - Temptations
I'd Rather Go Blind - Etta James
I'll Turn To Stone - Four Tops
I'm A Man - Spencer Davis Group
I'm So Glad - Cream
I'm Waiting For The Man - Velvet Underground & Nico
I'm Wondering - Stevie Wonder
I've Been Lonely Too Long - Young Rascals
I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die-Rag - Country Joe & the Fish
If 6 Was 9 - Jimi Hendrix
If I Could Build My Whole World Around You - Marvin & Tammi
Incense And Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock
It's Cold Outside - The Choir
Itchycoo Park - Small Faces
Jackson - Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood
Jimmy Mack - Martha & the Vandellas
Judy In Disguise - John Fred & the Playboy Band
Just Dropped In - First Edition
Kites - Simon Dupree & the Big Sound
Let It Out (Let It All Hang Out) - Hombres
Let Love Come Between Us - James & Bobby Purify
Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry
Let's Go To San Francisco - Flower Pot Men
Let's Live For Today - Grass Roots
Let's Spend The Night Together - Rolling Stones
Light My Fire - Doors
Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion
Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
Love Is All Around - Troggs
Love Is Blue - Paul Mauriat
Love Me Two Times - Doors
Love You So Much - New Colony Six
Lovely Rita - Beatles
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - Beatles
Magical Mystery Tour - Beatles
Make Me Yours - Bettye Swann
Manic Depression - Jimi Hendrix
Massachusetts - Bee Gees
Memphis Soul Stew - King Curtis
Mercy, Mercy, Mercy - Cannonball Adderly
Mirage - Tommy James & the Shondells
Moonlight Drive - Doors
More Love - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
Mr. Dream Merchant - Jerry Butler
Mr. Soul - Buffalo Springfield
My Baby Must Be A Magician - Marvelettes
My Back Pages - Byrds
My World Fell Down - Sagittarius
Never My Love - Association
New York Mining Disaster 1941 - Bee Gees
Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
Nine Pound Steel - Joe Simon
Nobody But Me - Human Beinz
Nothing Takes The Place Of You - Toussaint McCall
Ode To Billy Joe - Bobbie Gentry
Omaha - Moby Grape
On A Carousel -Hollies
Out Of Left Field - Percy Sledge
Paper Sun - Traffic
Pata Pata - Miriam Makeba
Penny Lane - Beatles
People Are Strange - Doors
Pictures Of Lily - The Who
Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo
Piece Of My Heart - Erma Franklin
Pleasant Valley Sunday - Monkees
Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
Reflections - Diana Ross & the Supremes
Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck
Respect - Aretha Franklin
Rock 'N' Roll Woman - Buffalo Springfield
Ruby Tuesday - Rolling Stones
Run Run Run - Third Rail
SWLABR - Cream
San Franciscan Nights - Eric Burdon & the Animals
San Francisco - Scott McKenzie
See Emily Play - Pink Floyd
Seven Rooms Of Gloom - Four Tops
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band - Beatles
She'd Rather Be With Me - Turtles
She's A Rainbow - Rolling Stones
She's Leaving Home - Beatles
Silence Is Golden - Tremeloes
Skinny Legs And All - Joe Tex
Snoopy's Christmas - Royal Guardsmen
So You Want To Be A Rock 'N' Roll Star - Byrds
Society's Child - Janis Ian
Sock It To Me, Baby! - Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels
Some Kind Of Wonderful - Soul Brothers Six
Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
Soothe Me - Sam & Dave
Soul Finger - Bar-Kays
Soul Kitchen - Doors
Soul Man - Sam & Dave
Spooky - Classics IV
Stir It Up - Wailers
Strange Brew - Cream
Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles
Summer Rain - Johnny Rivers
Sunday Will Never Be The Same - Spanky & Our Gang
Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
Susan - Buckinghams
Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley
Take Me (Just As I Am) - Solomon Burke
Tales Of Brave Ulysses - Cream
Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
Tell Mama - Etta James
Thank U Very Much - Scaffold
The Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar) - Doors
The Beat Goes On - Sonny & Cher
The Dark End Of The Street - James Carr
The End - Doors
The Fool On The Hill - Beatles
The Letter - Box Tops
The Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage - Miracles
The Rain, The Park, And Other Things - Cowsills
The Tide Is High - Paragons
The Wind Cries Mary - Jimi Hendrix
There Is - Dells
There's A Kind Of Hush - Herman's Hermits
This Is My Song - Petula Clark
Tighten Up - Archie Bell & the Drells
Time Has Come Today - Chambers Brothers
To Love Somebody - Bee Gees
To Sir With Love - Lulu
Tramp - Otis Redding & Carla Thomas
Tuesday Afternoon - Moody Blues
Twelve Thirty - Mamas & Papas
Twentieth Century Fox - Doors
Up From The Skies - Jimi Hendrix
Up, Up And Away - 5th Dimension
Waterloo Sunset - Kinks
Wear Your Love Like Heaven - Donovan
Western Union - Five Americans
When I Was Young - Eric Burdon & the Animals
When I'm Sixty-Four - Beatles
When Something Is Wrong With My Baby - Sam & Dave
When The Music's Over - Doors
White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
Windy - Association
With A Little Help From My Friends - Beatles
With This Ring - Platters
Words - Bee Gees
You Better Sit Down Kids - Cher
You Got What It Takes - Dave Clark Five
You Keep Me hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge
You're My Everything - Temptations
Your Precious Love -Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
Zabadak - Dave Dee, Dozy, etc...

I've already posted a top ten that looks like this:

1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
2. Light My Fire - Doors
3. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
4. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
5. A Day In The Life - Beatles
6. Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
7. Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
8. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
9. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
10. Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
11. The Letter - Box Tops (mentioned that this was # 11)


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SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 12:42:18 PM12/28/04
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Add these two from Pink Floyd:

Astronomy Dominie
Interstellar Overdrive.

Ludovic Delamare

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Dec 28, 2004, 12:47:27 PM12/28/04
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[list snipped]

There are too many Doors songs in this list. Keep only the true
classics.

--
Cordialement,
Ludovic
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Ludovic Delamare

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Dec 28, 2004, 12:53:43 PM12/28/04
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> Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo

I'm quite confident this one is from 1968.

PhillyGuy

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Dec 28, 2004, 1:55:03 PM12/28/04
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Couple of well-appreciated Souls in Philly from '67:

Make Me Yours - Bettye Swann

Gonna Take A Miracle - The Royalettes

popular in pockets elsewhere, too, I believe

Also, Dock Of The Bay was recorded (and finished - it was a minimalist
production, even with seashore sounds) shortly before Otis Redding's
death in December of 1967.

QUESTION: When was Cowsills' "The Rain, The Park & Other Things", a
WABC #1, a hit? Was it 1967?

Waterloo Sunset should really not be lower than #12 on final list.

Shouldn't Neil Diamond's "Kentucky Woman" and "Thank The Lord For The
Nighttime" get some consideration here?

Penultimate comment: BF's "Rock and Roll Woman" (about their encounter
or appreciation of Grace Slick at the time) has definitely gotten the
most airplay on FM and alternative-rock outlets of all of their songs;
"Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing" is arguably their 3rd most important
song, being a song that got Stills and Furay interested enough in
hooking up with Neil Young in a group, and probably being the first
song BF recorded together, although Neil wrote it about 1965, it may
not have been commercially available until 1967.

Final comment, in first reply: Nice to see late Linda Jones'
"Hypnotized", one of the top 100 Soul records of all time, easily, in
my book, on your list.

-Tom

Marshall Stack

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"SavoyBG" <sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Anybody notice anything here that was released before 1967?
>
> For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield

Pretty sure this came out at the end of '66.

> I've already posted a top ten that looks like this:
>
> 1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
> 2. Light My Fire - Doors
> 3. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
> 4. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
> 5. A Day In The Life - Beatles
> 6. Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
> 7. Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
> 8. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
> 9. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
> 10. Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
> 11. The Letter - Box Tops (mentioned that this was # 11)

Personally I'd put "Strawberry Fields" in there instead of "A Day in the
Life." And as I mentioned, I don't think "For What It's Worth" is a valid
candidate.


Brett A. Pasternack

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SavoyBG wrote:

> I've already posted a top ten that looks like this:
>
> 1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
> 2. Light My Fire - Doors
> 3. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
> 4. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
> 5. A Day In The Life - Beatles
> 6. Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
> 7. Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
> 8. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
> 9. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
> 10. Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
> 11. The Letter - Box Tops (mentioned that this was # 11)

Like Marshall, I'd argue that the most important Beatle record of the
year was "Strawberry Fields Forever".

And even though it had virtually no impact at the time, I'd argue for
the long-term significance of "Tears Of A Clown" over most of the songs
on this top ten.

Inyo

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>Subject: 1967 Songs
>From: sav...@aol.com (SavoyBG)
>Date: 12/28/04 9:37 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20041228123722...@mb-m16.aol.com>

>Working on a 1967 Top 100 for Digital Dream Door. This is just impossible,
>there are so many significant records that were released in this year.

Amen to that, as it were. Way too many too cool tunes to consider, but I'll be
very interested to read your list, when it's eventually compiled.

With the renewed interest in music from year 1967, I am reposting here a couple
of lists I compiled pertaining to some of my favorite obscurities and rarities
from 1967. Note that the operative word here is "favorite." I am not trying to
claim that my selections equate to a ranked listing of "the best" obscurities
and rarities from that specific year, 1967--I can only state that I've burned
all the songs below on a total of six CDs, and those CDs continue to get played
rather frequently.

Here's the first repost--detailing my two-CD set of obscurities from year 1967:

I just burned a couple of CDs-22 songs each-containing my favorite obscurities
from year 1967; as defined here, an obscurity is a song which is (1) seldom if
ever played any longer on mainstream commercial oldies radio formats across the
US; and (2), the song must have made Billboard's Top 40 in the US, but never
charted higher than #25-in other words, an obscurity charted somewhere between
#25 and #40 on the US Billboard Pop Charts.

CD #1 (numbers in parentheses after the song denote the highest Billboard Chart
position for that particular song; also, the dates refer to when a specific
song first entered Billboard's Top 40 Pop Chart.):

1) Gallant Men - Senator Everett Dirksen 1-7-1967 (#29)
2) Look What You've Done - Pozo Seco Singers 1-14-1967 (#32)
3) Wack Wack - Young Holt Unlimited 1-21-1967 (#40)
4) Lovin' You - Bobby Darin 2-111967 (#32)
5) Ride Ride Ride - Brenda Lee 2-111967 (#37)
6) Are You Lonely For Me - Freddie Scott 2-18-1967 (#39)
7) The Dis-Advantages Of You - Brass Ring (3-4-1967 (#39) This one gets played
occasionally on Nostalgia format radio)
8) Pucker Up Buttercup - Jr. Walker And The All Stars 3-11-1967 (#31)
9) No Milk Today - Herman's Hermits 3-18-1967 (#35) Close to breaking my own
rules here. This one still does get played occasionally on standard commercial
oldies formats across the US)
10) Detroit City - Tom Jones 4-1-1967 (#27)
11) Travelin' Man - Stevie Wonder 4-1-1967 (#32)
12) Wade In The Water - Herb Alpert And The Tijuana Brass 4-1-1967 (#37)
13) Tell Me To My Face - Keith 4-8-1967 (#37)
14) What A Woman In Love Won't Do - Sandy Posey 4-8-1967 (#31)
15) Sunday For Tea - Peter And Gordon 4-15-1967 (#31)
16) I'll Try Anything - Dusty Springfield 4-22-1967 (#40)
17) Making Memories - Frankie Laine 5-6-1967 (#35)
18) My Girl Josephine - Jerry Jaye 5-6-1967 (#29)
19) Shake A Tail Feather - James And Bobby Purify 5-13-1967 (#25)
20) Portrait Of My Love - The Tokens 5-20-1967 (#36)
21) Tramp - Otis Redding And Carla Thomas 6-3-1967 (#26)
22) Mary In The Morning - Al Martino 6-17-1967 (#27) This one's still played
occasionally on Nostalgia radio format in the US)

CD#2 (numbers in parentheses after the song denote the highest Billboard Chart
position for that particular song; also, the dates refer to when a specific
song first entered Billboard's Top 40 Pop Chart.):

!) Sound Of Love - Five Americans 6-17-1967 (#36)
2) Don't Blame The Children - Sammy Davis Jr. 6-24-1967 (#37)
3) Pay You Back With Interest - Hollies 6-24-1967 (#28) The best song the 1960s
Hollies lineup ever released as a single)
4) You Must Have Been A Beautiful Baby - Dave Clark Five 7-1-1967 (#35) 1967
was a banner year for groups covering songs that had been composed during the
1920s, 30s and 40s.
5) Bowling Green - Everly Brothers 7-8-1967 (#40) The last Top 40 song for the
great Everly Brothers.
6) Love Me Tender - Percy Sledge 7-22-1967 (#40)
7) You Were On My Mind - Crispian St. Peters 7-22-1967 (#36)
8) Don't Let The Rain Fall Down On Me - Critters 8-5-1967 (#39)
9) Out And About - Tommy Boyce And Bobby Hart 8-5-1967 (#39)
10) Everybody Needs Love - Gladys Knight And The Pips 8-19-1967 (#39)
11) The World We Knew - Frank Sinatra 8-24-1967 (#30) This one does get played
occasionally on Nostalgia radio format in the US.)
12) Museum - Herman's Hermits 9-16-1967 (#39) A really weird song. What exactly
is Peter Noonan singing about?
13) The Cat In The Window - Petula Clark 9-16-1967 (#26)
14) What Now My Love - Mitch Ryder 9-30 - 1967 (#30)
15) Ode To Billy Joe - -King Curtis 10-7 - 1967 (#28)
16) Child Of Clay - Jimmy Rogers 10-14 - 1967 (#31)
17) Even The Bad Times Are Good - Tremeloes 10-21-1967 (#36)
18) Homberg - Procol Harem 11-11-1967 (#34)
19) She Is Still A Mystery - Lovin' Spoonful 11-11-1967 (#27)
20) Watch The Flowers Grow - Four Seasons 11-18-1967 (#30)
21) Paper Cup - Fifth Dimension 12-9-1967 (#34) A Jimmy Webb composition.
22) Too Much Of Nothing - Peter Paul And Mary 12-23-1967 (#35)

Here's the repost of my 4-CD set of rarities from year 1967:

Recently, I burned a series of 4 CDs (22 songs per CD) featuring 88 of
my favorite Pop Music rarities from the year 1967.

Now, just so everybody is on the same page--a "rarity" is here defined
using a specific combination of factors. The first qualifying factor
is that a given song never made Billboard's US Top 40 Pop Music list;
second, the song must have entered the US Billboard Pop Music charts
somewhere between 41 and 100; and third, in order to fully qualify, a
full-fledged "rarity" is almost never played any longer on major AM or
FM commercial Pop Oldies stations (there are, of course, a number of
Internet sites and "specialty" broadcast radio programs where one may
hear, from time to time, many of the songs I have included on my CDs).

A final note--one will likely spot a few Country Music songs on my
1967 rarities compilations (notably by Eddy Arnold, Buck Owens and
Sony James, for example). In Country Music circles, of course, these
songs would hardly be considered "rarities," since they were
relatively big hits in that specific music genre, easily making
Country Music's Top 40 charts; they qualify as rarities here, though,
per the definition of "rarity" outlined above. There are also three or
four songs one might still hear today over the radio on what's
commonly called "Nostalgia" or "Music Of Your Life" format (Tony
Bennet's version of "For Once In Your Life" and Dean Martin's "Lay
Some Happiness On Me," for example), but such songs still fully
qualify as rarities, obviously, because they are no longer played on
major Pop Oldies stations. The same rule applies to such songs as The
Who's "Pictures Of Lily", Jefferon Airplane's "Watch Her Ride" and
maybe a couple of other examples that are sometimes played on Classic
Rock format--note, though, that the songs are for the most part no
longer player over major Pop Oldies format, which is one of the
defining propositions used to dertermine a rarity, on my personal
compilation of CDs.

So, without further fanfare...here are the listings for my four CDs of
rarities from 1967 (Please note--the numbers in parentheses, to the
right of the titles, denote a song's highest charted position on
Billboard's US Pop Music charts in 1967.)

CD #1

1) Spencer Davis Group - Time Seller (#100)
2) Tommy Roe - Little Miss Sunshine (#99)
3) Candymen - Georgia Pines (#99)
4) The Left Banke - Diseree (#98)
5) Don and the Goodtimes - Happy And Me (#98)
6) Ed Ames - When The Snow Is On The Roses (#98)
7) Baja Marimba Band - Georgy Girl (#98)
8) The Royal Guardsmen - Wednesday (#97)
9) Sony James - I'll Never Find Another You (#97)
10)Judy Collins - Hard Lovin' Loser (#97)
11)The Yardbirds - Ten Little Indians (#96)
12)The Blues Project - No Time Like The Right Time (#96)
13)Pozo-Seco Singers - I Believed It All (#96)
14)Lulu And The Luvvers - Shout (#96)
15)Big Maybelle 96 Tears (#96)
16)The Cyrkle - Penny Arcade (#95)
17)The Merry-Go-Round - You're A Very Lovely Woman (#94)
18)Cher - Hey Joe (#94)
19)Brian Hyland - Holiday For Clowns (#94)
20)B.J. Thomas - I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You)(#94)
21)Aretha Franklin - Mockingbird (#94)
22)Trini Lopez Gonna Get Along Without Ya' Now (#93)

CD #2

23)The Peanut Butter Conspiracy - It's A Happening Thing (#93)(note:
this is my all-time favorite rarity from 1967)
24)Every Mothers' Son - Pony With The Golden Mane (#93)
25)Boots Randolph Temptation (#93)
26)Buck Owens Sam's Place (#92)
27)Tony Bennett For Once In My Life (#91)
28)Claudine Longet - Hello, Hello (#91)
29)The 4 Seasons (As The Wonder Who) - Lonesome Road (#89)
30)The Sopwith Camel - Postcard From Jamaica (#89)
31)The Lovin' Spoonful - Full Measure (#87)
32)Eddy Arnold - Lonely Again (#87)
33)The Seeds - Mr. Farmer (#86)
34)The Nightcrawlers - The Little Black Egg (#86)
35)Ramsey Lewis - Dancing In The Street (#84)
36)The Byrds - Lady Friend (#83)
37)Prince Buster - Ten Commandments (#81)
38)The Kinks - Mr. Pleasant (#80)
39)Elvis Presley - Judy (#78)
40)The Byrds - Have You Seen Her Face (#78)
41)The Love Generation Groovy Summertime (#74)
42)The Kinks - Deadend Street (#73)
43)The Righteous Brothers - Stranded In The Middle Of Noplace (#72)
44)The Cyrkle - We Had A Good Thing Going (#72)

CD #3

45)Booker T. & The MG's - Slim Jenkins Place (#70)
46)The Choir (early Raspberries) - It's Cold Outside (#68)
47)The Staple Singers - For What It's Worth (#66)
48)The Music Machine - The People In Me (#66)
49)Frankie Laine - Laura, What's He Got That I Ain't Got (#66)
50)Bobby Darin - The Lady Came From Baltimore (#62)
51)Erma Franklin - Piece Of My Heart (@62)
52)Jefferson Airplane/Starship - Watch Her Ride (#61)
53)The New Colony Six - Love You So Much (#61)
54)Ray Price - Danny Boy (#60)
55)Blues Magoos - Pipe Dream (#60)
56)Sonny & Cher - Good Combination (#56)
57)Noel Harrison - Suzanne (#56)
58)Don and the Goodtimes - I Could Be So Good To You (#56)
59)? & The Mysterians - Can't Get Enough Of You, Baby (#56)
60)Dean Martin - Lay Some Happiness On Me (#55)
61)Bobbie Gentry - Okolona River Bottom Band (#54)
62)Frank Sinatra - This Town (#54)
63)The Third Rail - Run, Run, Run (#53)
64)Lowell Fulson - Tramp (#52)
65)Billy Joe Royal - Hush (#52)
66)Gary Lewis and the Playboys - Jill (#52)

CD #4

67)The Mamas and the Papas - Dancing Bear (#51)
68)The Hollies - King Midas In Reverse (#51)
69)The Association - No Fair At All (#51)
70)The Who - Pictures Of Lily (#51)
71)The Yardbirds - Little Games (#51)
72)Ronnie Dove My Babe (#50)
73)Dusty Springfield - What's It Gonna Be (#49)
74)Tom Jones - I'll Never Fall In Love Again (#49)
75)Otis Redding Shake (Live)(#47)
76)Spencer Davis Group Somebody Help Me (#47)
77)The Royal Guardsmen - Airplane Song (My Airplane)(#46)
78)The Yardbirds - Ha Ha Said The Clown (#45)
79)Wes Montgomery - Windy (#44)
80)The Seekers - Morningtown Ride (#44)
81)Dave Clark Five - I've Got To Have A Reason (#44)
82)Tommy James & The Shondells - Out Of The Blue (#43)
83)Harpers Bizarre - Anything Goes 9#43)
84)Jefferson Airplane - Ballad Of You and Me and Pooneil (#42)
85)Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels - Joy (#41)
86)The Buckinghams - Laudy Miss Claudy (#41)
87)The Happenings - Why Do Fools Fall In Love (#41)
88)Al Green - Back Up Train (#41)

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It's hard to see placing any Beatles song ahead of A Day in the Life! I
think I'd put A Day in the Life at the top of this list, and I'm far from
being a Beatles fan.

I'd put Waterloo Sunset ahead of virtually all of these -- definitely in the
top three. The other song that seems to me to be an obvious top ten
candidate that isn't here is Alice's Restaurant/Massacree.

Greg


JL

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:19:03 PM12/28/04
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Some oversights I've detected are:

2000 Light Years From Home - Rolling Stones (Decca/London)

Nightmare - Whyte Boots (Philips)

In Another Land - Bill Wyman (Decca/London)

Live - Merry-Go-Round (A&M)

You're a Very Lovely Woman - Merry-Go-Round (A&M)

Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney (Musicor)

We Love You - Rolling Stones (Decca/London)

I'll Be Your Baby Tonight - Bob Dylan (Columbia)

Worst That Could Happen - Fifth Dimension (Soul City)

Best Of Both Worlds - Lulu (Epic)

She's Looking Good - Rodger Collins (Galaxy)

Don't You Care - Buckinghams (Columbia)

Sunshine Girl - The Parade (A&M)

She Took You For A Ride - Aaron Neville (Par-Lo)

Can't Get Enough Of You, Baby - ? & The Mysterians (Cameo)

Love Is Here And Now You're Gone - Supremes (Motown)

I Don't Want To Throw Rice - Dolly Parton (Monument)
(If you're unfamiliar with this one, better check it out, its Dolly at her
very best!)

Melody For You - Grass Roots (Dunhill)

Interstellar Overdrive - Pink Floyd (Columbia/Tower)

Magic Hollow - The Beau Brummels (Warner Brothers)

I Can't See Nobody - The Bee Gees (Atco)

All Along The Watchtower - Bob Dylan (Columbia)

The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion) - Grateful Dead (Warner Brothers)

Dear Eloise - The Hollies (Parlophone)

King Midas In Reverse - The Hollies (Parlophone)

Pay You Back With Interest - The Hollies (Parlophone)

After Closing Time - Hal Frazier (Reprise)

99th Floor - The Moving Sidewalks (Tantara)

I Make A Fool Of Myself - Frankie Valli (Philips)

Just a few for your consideration!

Julio


SavoyBG

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>From: Ludovic Delamare

>> Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo
>
>I'm quite confident this one is from 1968.

I think we went through this when I was working on '68 and it proved out to be
released already in lat 1967.

SavoyBG

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>From: "PhillyGuy"

>Couple of well-appreciated Souls in Philly from '67:
>
>Make Me Yours - Bettye Swann
>Gonna Take A Miracle - The Royalettes

The Royalettes record is from 1965.

SavoyBG

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>From: "Marshall Stack" bats...@notmail.com

>>
>> For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
>
>Pretty sure this came out at the end of '66.

Don't thinkl so.

The album was out in 1966, but it did not contain "For What It's Worth" at
first. When the single started to become a hit, they changed the album, dropped
one song, and added "For What It's Worth" in its place.

SavoyBG

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>From: "Brett A. Pasternack"

>Like Marshall, I'd argue that the most important Beatle record of the
>year was "Strawberry Fields Forever".

I'm sure that'll be in the top 15.

>And even though it had virtually no impact at the time, I'd argue for
>the long-term significance of "Tears Of A Clown" over most of the songs
>on this top ten.

I can't agree with that. It's a great # 1 pop/soul hit, but how is it more
significant than most of that top ten?

It's certainly not a more significant soul record than "Respect" or "Soul Man,"
which are probably the two biggest uptempo soul records of all time.

I can't see how it could be more significant than "Light My Fire," "Purple
Haze," etc... either.

SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:54:23 PM12/28/04
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>From: "Greg Ioannou"

> The other song that seems to me to be an obvious top ten
>candidate that isn't here is Alice's Restaurant/Massacree.
>

That's on the list.

Top ten though?

Even back then it wouldn't be top ten, and it's about as dated as anything from
1967, just about unplayable now.

SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:56:37 PM12/28/04
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>From: "JL"

>All Along The Watchtower - Bob Dylan (Columbia)

You sure this was released in '67 already?

The rest of the stuff you listed I had eliminated already. It's just too strong
of a year to consider Dolly Parton records and mediocre Aaron Neville
follow-ups. There's already gonna be several major things that I won't have
room for.

Davepitt11

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:10:23 PM12/28/04
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>Worst That Could Happen - Fifth Dimension (Soul City)

Am I a philistine for liking the Brooklyn Bridge version better?

>King Midas In Reverse - The Hollies (Parlophone)

Easily my favorite Hollies tune. Great song.


SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:19:14 PM12/28/04
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>From: davep...@aol.comkoivu (Davepitt11)

>>Worst That Could Happen - Fifth Dimension (Soul City)
>
>Am I a philistine for liking the Brooklyn Bridge version better?

No, it is better, and the 5th Dimension version is nothing more than a
curiosity that is nice to hear, but is in no way a signoficant record.

>>King Midas In Reverse - The Hollies (Parlophone)
>
>Easily my favorite Hollies tune. Great song.

I'll add it, but I think it looks like I'll have room for one Hollies song at
best, and I can't see listing it ahead of "Carrie-Anne" or "On A Carousel."

SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:20:52 PM12/28/04
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>From: Ludovic Delamare

>There are too many Doors songs in this list. Keep only the true
>classics.

I'm sure MOST of the LP only cuts will not make the final list, if any.
Probably only "The End" even has a chance. I don't like the record, but it
seems to be pretty damn big witl a lot of people.

SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:25:37 PM12/28/04
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>From: "Greg Ioannou"

>It's hard to see placing any Beatles song ahead of A Day in the Life! I
>think I'd put A Day in the Life at the top of this list, and I'm far from
>being a Beatles fan.

This was a very tough yerar for the top song. I can see anything in the top 5
as having a good case for # 1.

On "Waterloo Sunset"," I just don't see it as being in the mainstream enough to
merit the top ten here, not in this year when there's so many top notch things
that are very well known. It will certainly be in the top 20 though.

Maybe that's just a US bias, as the record was a huge hit overseas, but it's
just not anywhere near as well known as things like "Nights In White Satin" and
"For What It's Worth" in this part of the world.

SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:44:13 PM12/28/04
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I've been using Bob's hall of fame as a loose guide to help put these yearly
lists together, looking at which songs form each year that the group thinks are
the best.

Here's what's been inducted from 1967:

GREAT 1960s SINGLES:

2001 INDUCTEES:
(Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher - Jackie Wilson
Respect - Aretha Franklin
A Whiter Shade of Pale - Procol Harum

2002 INDUCTEES:
The Dark End of The Street - James Carr
I Can See for Miles - The Who
Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks

2003 INDUCTEES:


Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison

Chain of Fools - Aretha Franklin
Light My Fire - The Doors
Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience


Soul Man - Sam & Dave

Strawberry Fields Forever - The Beatles

GREAT 1960s ALBUM TRACKS:

2003 INDUCTEES
A Day In The Life - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band [Beatles]


None of the things that became big later as singles (Nights In White Satin,
Tears Of A Clown) have been inducted yet in the 70s group, where they would
also be eligible under Bob's rules (on the charts in the decade).

Mark Dintenfass

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In article <20041228191023...@mb-m17.aol.com>, Davepitt11
<davep...@aol.comkoivu> wrote:

> >Worst That Could Happen - Fifth Dimension (Soul City)
>
> Am I a philistine for liking the Brooklyn Bridge version better?

Both versions are terrible, IMO.

> >King Midas In Reverse - The Hollies (Parlophone)
>
> Easily my favorite Hollies tune. Great song.

Good song.

--
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Mark Dintenfass

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Dec 28, 2004, 7:59:45 PM12/28/04
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In article <20041228191914...@mb-m20.aol.com>, SavoyBG
<sav...@aol.com> wrote:

> >From: davep...@aol.comkoivu (Davepitt11)
>
> >>Worst That Could Happen - Fifth Dimension (Soul City)
> >
> >Am I a philistine for liking the Brooklyn Bridge version better?
>
> No, it is better, and the 5th Dimension version is nothing more than a
> curiosity that is nice to hear, but is in no way a signoficant record.
>
> >>King Midas In Reverse - The Hollies (Parlophone)
> >
> >Easily my favorite Hollies tune. Great song.
>
> I'll add it, but I think it looks like I'll have room for one Hollies song at
> best, and I can't see listing it ahead of "Carrie-Anne" or "On A Carousel."

I'd go with "Bus Stop."

Marshall Stack

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"SavoyBG" <sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Marshall Stack" bats...@notmail.com
>
>>>
>>> For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
>>
>>Pretty sure this came out at the end of '66.
>
> Don't thinkl so.
>
> The album was out in 1966, but it did not contain "For What It's Worth" at
> first. When the single started to become a hit, they changed the album,
> dropped
> one song, and added "For What It's Worth" in its place.

All true, but the re-issued Buffalo Springfield was released in the early
spring of '67, which as you said is after "For What It's Worth" became a
hit. From everything I've heard, "For What It's Worth" was released in
December of '66, though it didn't actually chart until January of '67.


Mark Dintenfass

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:00:33 PM12/28/04
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In article <20041228192052...@mb-m20.aol.com>, SavoyBG
<sav...@aol.com> wrote:

> >From: Ludovic Delamare
>
> >There are too many Doors songs in this list. Keep only the true
> >classics.
>
> I'm sure MOST of the LP only cuts will not make the final list, if any.
> Probably only "The End" even has a chance. I don't like the record, but it
> seems to be pretty damn big witl a lot of people.

Mostly because of "Apolcalypse Now," where it is used brilliantly.

Taliesyn

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:02:17 PM12/28/04
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SavoyBG wrote:
>>From: "JL"
>
>
>>All Along The Watchtower - Bob Dylan (Columbia)
>
>
> You sure this was released in '67 already?
>

According to AMG, Dylan's John Wesley Harding album was released
December 27th, 1967 (if you trust their accuracy ;-)

-Taliesyn

SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:02:24 PM12/28/04
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>From: Mark Dintenfass

>I'd go with "Bus Stop."

I'll keep that in mind when we get to the year (1966) that the song is from.

Marshall Stack

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"SavoyBG" <sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "JL"
>
>>All Along The Watchtower - Bob Dylan (Columbia)
>
> You sure this was released in '67 already?

I have December of '67 as the release for the John Wesley Harding album,
which contained AAtW. Not sure offhand when the single was released.

The Hendrix version was actually recorded not much into '68 (January 21st.)
Of course that proves absolutely nothing given that he was playing "Sgt.
Pepper" onstage just a couple days after the album came out.


Taliesyn

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:11:42 PM12/28/04
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Mark Dintenfass wrote:

> In article <20041228191023...@mb-m17.aol.com>, Davepitt11
> <davep...@aol.comkoivu> wrote:
>
>
>>>Worst That Could Happen - Fifth Dimension (Soul City)
>>
>>Am I a philistine for liking the Brooklyn Bridge version better?
>
>
> Both versions are terrible, IMO.
>
>

You see, our good tastes do merge somewhere along the line. ;-)

I thought "Can't Buy Me Love" was bad by Beatles standards. However,
this dreck was bad by ANY standard of the imagination. And even though
many people loved it, true to the god-awful lyrics, it was the worst
that could happen to me. I'm trying to say this with a straight face!

-Taliesyn

SavoyBG

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>From: "Marshall Stack"

>I have December of '67 as the release for the John Wesley Harding album,
>which contained AAtW. Not sure offhand when the single was released.

There is no single.

Len Blanks

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Greg Ioannou <gregi...@rogers.com> writes:

> "Brett A. Pasternack" <bret...@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:41D1BB...@erols.com...
>> SavoyBG wrote:
>>
>> > I've already posted a top ten that looks like this:
>> >
>> > 1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
>> > 2. Light My Fire - Doors
>> > 3. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
>> > 4. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
>> > 5. A Day In The Life - Beatles
>> > 6. Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
>> > 7. Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
>> > 8. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
>> > 9. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
>> > 10. Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
>> > 11. The Letter - Box Tops (mentioned that this was # 11)
>>

> I'd put Waterloo Sunset ahead of virtually all of these -- definitely
> in the top three.

I agree and would rank it higher than at least six of the tunes above.

--
Len

LONELY GUY 17 seeks lonely girl into Comsats, Joy Division, Dalek 1 and
Talking Heads for sincere friendship Croydon area looks unimportant
Box No. 11489.

Mark Dintenfass

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Dec 28, 2004, 9:13:30 PM12/28/04
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In article <33eei5F...@individual.net>, Taliesyn
<tali...@netscape.net> wrote:

> Mark Dintenfass wrote:
>
> > In article <20041228191023...@mb-m17.aol.com>, Davepitt11
> > <davep...@aol.comkoivu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Worst That Could Happen - Fifth Dimension (Soul City)
> >>
> >>Am I a philistine for liking the Brooklyn Bridge version better?
> >
> >
> > Both versions are terrible, IMO.
> >
> >
>
> You see, our good tastes do merge somewhere along the line. ;-)

Well, at least our aversion to dreck does. :-)

>
> I thought "Can't Buy Me Love" was bad by Beatles standards. However,
> this dreck was bad by ANY standard of the imagination. And even though
> many people loved it, true to the god-awful lyrics, it was the worst
> that could happen to me. I'm trying to say this with a straight face!

The proper face for this song is nose pinched, finger to tongue while
making gagging sounds.

Anti-Charlie

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Dec 28, 2004, 9:42:28 PM12/28/04
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>>> > I've already posted a top ten that looks like this:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
>>> > 2. Light My Fire - Doors
>>> > 3. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
>>> > 4. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
>>> > 5. A Day In The Life - Beatles
>>> > 6. Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
>>> > 7. Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
>>> > 8. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
>>> > 9. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
>>> > 10. Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
>>> > 11. The Letter - Box Tops (mentioned that this was # 11)

Absolutely insane. Respect is in no way better than Day In The Life,
and Penny Lane is perhaps the closest thing to a perfect 45 pop record
ever made. Put #5 on top, put Aretha at #10. The Letter is better than
Somebody To Love. White Rabbit would be the more obvious choice.


SavoyBG

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>From: "Anti-Charlie"

>Absolutely insane. Respect is in no way better than Day In The Life,

Depends on who you ask, in my opinion, and in the opinion of millions of
people, "Respect" is better.

Here's the recent Rolling Stone top 500 that was voted on by a couple of
hundred musicians and record industry people, and "Respect" is # 5 of all time,
"A Day In The Life" is # 26. "Respect" is higher on that list than ANY Beatles
record.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6596661/500songs?rnd=110104589
2484&has-player=true&version=6.0.8.1024


>Penny Lane is perhaps the closest thing to a perfect 45 pop record
>ever made.

It's only # 449 on the Rolling Stone list.

Taliesyn

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Anti-Charlie wrote:

"Penny Lane" a perfect record? Not to these aural receptors.

I'd definitely rather listen to "Respect" than "Penny Lane" today.

In fact I was just tinkering with my Top 100 1967 list and "Penny Lane"
was nowhere in sight. On my previous lists it ranked somewhere in the
130s while "Respect" was in the 50s.

"The Letter", while catchy, is not even a complete song, unlike the
well crafted "Somebody To Love". It needs another verse, something more,
AND something better than that botched ending. "White Rabbit" was a
good match for "Somebody To Love", but a few ranks below it.

-Taliesyn

magic alex

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"SavoyBG" <sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Anti-Charlie"
>
>>Absolutely insane. Respect is in no way better than Day In The Life,
>
> Depends on who you ask, in my opinion, and in the opinion of millions
> of
> people, "Respect" is better.

In your opinion, perhaps.

I'd like a list of those millions, if it's not too much trouble.

>
> Here's the recent Rolling Stone top 500 that was voted on by a couple
> of
> hundred musicians and record industry people, and "Respect" is # 5 of
> all time,
> "A Day In The Life" is # 26. "Respect" is higher on that list than ANY
> Beatles
> record.

So what? Rolling Stone is a joke, as are most of these lists.


magic alex

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"Taliesyn" <tali...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Anti-Charlie wrote:
>
>>>>>>I've already posted a top ten that looks like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
>>>>>>2. Light My Fire - Doors
>>>>>>3. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
>>>>>>4. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
>>>>>>5. A Day In The Life - Beatles
>>>>>>6. Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
>>>>>>7. Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
>>>>>>8. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
>>>>>>9. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
>>>>>>10. Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
>>>>>>11. The Letter - Box Tops (mentioned that this was # 11)
>>
>>
>> Absolutely insane. Respect is in no way better than Day In The Life,
>> and Penny Lane is perhaps the closest thing to a perfect 45 pop
>> record ever made. Put #5 on top, put Aretha at #10. The Letter is
>> better than Somebody To Love. White Rabbit would be the more obvious
>> choice.
>
> "Penny Lane" a perfect record? Not to these aural receptors.

Well, maybe we can hold a telethon for you or something. :)


>
> I'd definitely rather listen to "Respect" than "Penny Lane" today.

Both good records. Penny is better.


>
> In fact I was just tinkering with my Top 100 1967 list and "Penny
> Lane"
> was nowhere in sight. On my previous lists it ranked somewhere in the
> 130s while "Respect" was in the 50s.

Well, that's YOUR list.


>
> "The Letter", while catchy, is not even a complete song, unlike the
> well crafted "Somebody To Love". It needs another verse, something
> more,
> AND something better than that botched ending. "White Rabbit" was a
> good match for "Somebody To Love", but a few ranks below it.

Again, purely subjective and not a little bit odd. Rabbit was a far
bigger song than Somebody. It's a better song. But then, people around
here come from totally different slants, some prefer 50's/early 60's
music, some prefer psychedelic, etc. So there will be little concensus.
>
> -Taliesyn


SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:50:52 PM12/28/04
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>From: "magic alex"

> Rabbit was a far
>bigger song than Somebody.

On what planet"

"White Rabbit" peaked at # 8 on the Billboard singles chart and was on the
chart for 10 weeks and "Somebody To Love" peaked at # 5 on that chart, and was
on for 15 weeks.

SavoyBG

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:57:01 PM12/28/04
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>From: "magic alex"

>So what? Rolling Stone is a joke, as are most of these lists.

Rolling Stone didn't make the list up, it was voted on by 2 to 3 hundred
people, lotta musicians. Each voter listed (I believe) his/her top 40 or 50
songs of all time, ranked in order.

It's actually a pretty good list, with most of the essential records from over
the years making the list.

practice

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"SavoyBG" <sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "magic alex"
>
>> Rabbit was a far
>>bigger song than Somebody.
>
> On what planet"
>
> "White Rabbit" peaked at # 8 on the Billboard singles chart and was on
> the
> chart for 10 weeks and "Somebody To Love" peaked at # 5 on that chart,
> and was
> on for 15 weeks.

Again, you simply dwell on the initial numbers. As time has gone on
Rabbit has come to be an instant classic song and played far more often
than Somebody.

While I realize one must start somewhere and the initial numbers are
somewhat of an indication, they are not the end-all and be-all.

practice

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"SavoyBG" <sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "magic alex"
>
>>So what? Rolling Stone is a joke, as are most of these lists.
>
> Rolling Stone didn't make the list up, it was voted on by 2 to 3
> hundred
> people, lotta musicians. Each voter listed (I believe) his/her top 40
> or 50
> songs of all time, ranked in order.
>
> It's actually a pretty good list, with most of the essential records
> from over
> the years making the list.

It's easy to choose most of the essential records. The ranking becomes
an unusable barometer, except for a starting place to make your own

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>Depends on who you ask, in my opinion, and in the opinion of millions of
>people, "Respect" is better.

So, we're already back to "popularity equals quality." This argument is
meaningless.


SavoyBG

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Dec 29, 2004, 12:23:18 AM12/29/04
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>From: "practice"

>Again, you simply dwell on the initial numbers. As time has gone on
>Rabbit has come to be an instant classic song and played far more often
>than Somebody.

I doubt that highly. Do you have any proof of this statement?

caseystengel

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Dec 29, 2004, 10:14:49 AM12/29/04
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1967 was probably the best year for music.
top ten in no particular order which reflected the times as they were
strawberry fields forever
tuesday afternoon
time has come today
somebody to love
waterloo sunset
san franciscan nights
bluebird
death of a clown
getting better
summer rain
i omitted the doors so i'll add them back in with light my fire.

eSCapen

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Dec 29, 2004, 11:31:39 AM12/29/04
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Pretty damned inclusive!

But who's Tobert Knight?

SavoyBG

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Dec 29, 2004, 11:59:51 AM12/29/04
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>From: "caseystengel"

>top ten in no particular order which reflected the times as they were
>strawberry fields forever
>tuesday afternoon
>time has come today
>somebody to love
>waterloo sunset
>san franciscan nights
>bluebird
>death of a clown
>getting better
>summer rain
>i omitted the doors so i'll add them back in with light my fire.

Didn't those timkes include any soul music?

many moons

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"Mike G" <mikeg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "practice" <dail...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I totally disagree with you. You will find White Rabbit on far more
compilations than the other.

Your breakdown of the songs was thoughtful and made sense, yet not
necessarily based on anything other than your own reality.


many moons

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"SavoyBG" <sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "practice"
>
> >Again, you simply dwell on the initial numbers. As time has gone on
> >Rabbit has come to be an instant classic song and played far more often
> >than Somebody.
>
> I doubt that highly. Do you have any proof of this statement?

Of course not.


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Marshall Stack wrote:
> All true, but the re-issued Buffalo Springfield was released in the
early
> spring of '67, which as you said is after "For What It's Worth"
became a
> hit. From everything I've heard, "For What It's Worth" was released
in
> December of '66, though it didn't actually chart until January of
'67.

Looks like you are correct, according to this....

BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD:
11252 For What It's Worth
Words And Music Registered With
The Library Of Congress Copyright Office
5 December 1966
11253 Do I Have To Come Right Out and Say It
Masters assigned Monday, 5 December 1966
Recorded Columbia Studios, LA
~ Atco single 45-6459,
Billboard review 31 December 1966
I will make the changes on the lists, thank you.

heartbreaker

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"Mike G" <mikeg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "many moons" <our...@native.org> wrote:
>
> > I totally disagree with you. You will find White Rabbit on far more
> > compilations than the other.
>
> And how many of those have an exclusive "psychedelic" theme?

I couldn't say. Why would it have to? The song is on 60's comps, not just
psych (drug song) collections.


Marshall Stack

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No problem. I just found this out a few years ago myself, having always
thought the song came out in '67.


Solostar1A

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sav...@aol.com (SavoyBG) asks

>Didn't those timkes include any soul >music?


What's a timke? <g>

Brett A. Pasternack

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SavoyBG wrote:
>
> >From: "Brett A. Pasternack"

> >And even though it had virtually no impact at the time, I'd argue for
> >the long-term significance of "Tears Of A Clown" over most of the songs
> >on this top ten.
>
> I can't agree with that. It's a great # 1 pop/soul hit, but how is it more
> significant than most of that top ten?
>
> It's certainly not a more significant soul record than "Respect" or "Soul Man,"
> which are probably the two biggest uptempo soul records of all time.
>
> I can't see how it could be more significant than "Light My Fire," "Purple
> Haze," etc... either.

Well, of course, we really should define "significant". In the meantime,
though: While I can't argue with the huge significance of "Respect", I
think "Tears Of A Clown" is more distinctive and unique than "Soul Man"
(which is stylistically pretty close to earlier S&D records like "Hold
On I'm Comin'", not that there's anything wrong with that); it was a
bigger pop-chart hit (albeit delayed), and is much more heavily played
today, at least on those stations that reach my ears.

"Purple Haze" wasn't a chart hit and its influence, while certainly
large, was more limited in scope than the impact of "Tears Of A Clown".

But if you're going to ask me what song I'd take out of the top ten to
make room for "Tears", I'd probably suggest either "Sunshine Of Your
Love" or "Somebody To Love". Fine records--I like the first more than
the second--but not tremendously groundbreaking, not huge hits, not
songs that are often imitated or remade. With any of the others it's at
least close.

Mark Dintenfass

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In article <41D3B0...@erols.com>, Brett A. Pasternack
<bret...@erols.com> wrote:

> "Purple Haze" wasn't a chart hit and its influence, while certainly
> large, was more limited in scope than the impact of "Tears Of A Clown".

I love "Tears Of A Clown," but I'm confused when you start talking
about its impact. Could you explain what large influence you see it
having.

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Brett A. Pasternack wrote:
> But if you're going to ask me what song I'd take out of the top ten
to
> make room for "Tears", I'd probably suggest either "Sunshine Of Your
> Love" or "Somebody To Love". Fine records--I like the first more than
> the second--but not tremendously groundbreaking, not huge hits, not
> songs that are often imitated or remade. With any of the others it's
at
> least close.

How do you get that "Sunshine Of Your Love" and "Somebody To Love" were
not huge hits?

They were both top 5 singles and the lead track on huge albums.

I just don't see "Tears Of A Clown" as being all that significant, I'd
list at least 5 Miracles songs as being more significant than that one.

Shop Around
You Really Got A Hold On Me
Tracks Of My Tears
Ooo Baby Baby
Going To A Go-Go
I Second That Emotion

The Rolling Stone Top 500 list has...

# 65 - Sunshine Of Your Love
# 274 - Somebody To Love


Teras Of A Clown did not even make the list. If there's any list that
values influence, it's that list, which includes songs by the Stooges,
the Velevt Underground, etc....

There were thre Miracles records on the list from the 6 that I listed
above.

I just don't see any supporting evidence of your claim of "Tears Of A
Clown" being all that significant beyond being a # 1 pop chart hit. If
I let that dictate these lists we'd have "Groovin'" and "Windy" and
"Daydream beleiever" in the top ten for 1967.

Sav...@aol.com

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Marshall Stack wrote:
> Personally I'd put "Strawberry Fields" in there instead of "A Day in
the
> Life." And as I mentioned, I don't think "For What It's Worth" is a
valid
> candidate.

Well, here's what I did with having to move "For What It's Worth" to
1966.
You don't get "Strawberry Fields" ahead of "A Day In The Life," but at
least it's on the list now. Sorry "Waterloo Sunset" folks, you'll get #
12 for 1967.

1966
1. Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
2. When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge
3. Reach Out, I'll Be There - Four Tops
4. Gimme Some Lovin' - Spencer Davis Group
5. Ain't Too Proud To Beg - Temptations
6. Eight Miles High - Byrds
7. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
8. Paint It Black - Rolling Stones
9. You Keep Me Hangin' On - Supremes
10. Wild Thing - Troggs

(Hold On I'm A-Comin'" drops out of the top ten)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1967


1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
2. Light My Fire - Doors
3. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
4. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
5. A Day In The Life - Beatles
6. Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
7. Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
8. Soul Man - Sam & Dave

9. Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles

Marshall Stack

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<Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Marshall Stack wrote:
>> Personally I'd put "Strawberry Fields" in there instead of "A Day in
> the
>> Life." And as I mentioned, I don't think "For What It's Worth" is a
> valid
>> candidate.
>
> Well, here's what I did with having to move "For What It's Worth" to
> 1966.

Heh. It actually gained two spots. They can thank me later.

> You don't get "Strawberry Fields" ahead of "A Day In The Life," but at
> least it's on the list now. Sorry "Waterloo Sunset" folks, you'll get #
> 12 for 1967.

While I do know a lot of folks who'd put "Strawberry Fields" ahead of "A Day
in the Life" (and I'd probably make that move myself) I also can see the
reason for your choice. I know it seems like every time I tune into a
oldies/classic rock station they tend to play "A Day in the Life" almost as
a given, whereas "Strawberry Fields" is a rarer cut.

Also I agree with putting "Somebody to Love" ahead of "White Rabbit" even
though the latter song is one of my favorites. I don't think "StL" gets the
credit it's due as one of those early rock anthems which, along with the (to
me) far inferior "San Francisco" by Scott McKenzie, probably defined a lot
of people's impressions of the bay area scene during the Summer of Love and
for a good while thereafter. I still like "White Rabbit" better, but how
well would it have done without "StL" to kick the door open?

makes perfect

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"Marshall Stack" <bats...@notmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1104426029.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Marshall Stack wrote:
>>> Personally I'd put "Strawberry Fields" in there instead of "A Day in
>> the
>>> Life." And as I mentioned, I don't think "For What It's Worth" is a
>> valid
>>> candidate.
>>
>> Well, here's what I did with having to move "For What It's Worth" to
>> 1966.
>
> Heh. It actually gained two spots. They can thank me later.
>
>> You don't get "Strawberry Fields" ahead of "A Day In The Life," but
>> at
>> least it's on the list now. Sorry "Waterloo Sunset" folks, you'll get
>> #
>> 12 for 1967.
>
> While I do know a lot of folks who'd put "Strawberry Fields" ahead of
> "A Day in the Life" (and I'd probably make that move myself) I also
> can see the reason for your choice. I know it seems like every time I
> tune into a oldies/classic rock station they tend to play "A Day in
> the Life" almost as a given, whereas "Strawberry Fields" is a rarer
> cut.

Really? How bizarre. It is clearly the other way around here.

It is something to always consider, how our listening markets determined
our tastes now as well as growing up, because things were very much more
localized back in the 60's and 70's than they are now.


Intheway1

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>But who's Tobert Knight?
>

Legendary singing brain surgeon who recorded the first version of "Everlasting
Lobe."

Thanks for asking,

Fred

PhillyGuy

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Just as a comparison to what you are trying to do here, BG, I thought I
would offer (this would not be my top 100 either) WABC 770's Top 100 of
1967 list (reprinted w/o permission). If I find Philly's WIBG top 100
I will post that too:

1 "To Sir With Love"...............Lulu
2 "Light My Fire"..................The Doors
3 "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You"..Frankie Valli
4 "Happy Together".................The Turtles
5 "Groovin' "......................The Young Rascals
6 "The Letter".....................The Box Tops
7 "Windy"..........................The Association
8 "Georgy Girl"....................The Seekers
9 "Little Bit Of Soul".............The Music Explosion
10 "Respect".......................Aretha Franklin
11 "Ode to Billie Joe".............Bobbie Gentry
12 "I'm a Believer"................The Monkees
13 "Somethin' Stupid"..............Nancy and Frank Sinatra
14 "Apples, Peaches, Pumkin Pie"...Jay and the Techniques
15 "Expressway to Your Heart"......The Soul Survivors
16 "All You Need is Love"..........The Beatles
17 "How Can I Be Sure".............The Young Rascals
18 "I Think We're Alone Now".......Tommy James and the Shondells
19 "The Happening".................Diana Ross and the Supremes
20 "Penny Lane"....................The Beatles
21 "I've Been Lonely Too Long".....The Young Rascals
22 "Ruby Tuesday"..................The Rolling Stones
23 "Kind of a Drag"................The Buckinghams
24 "Jimmy Mack"....................Martha and the Vandellas
25 "Reflections"...................Diana Ross and the Supremes
26 "Love is Here and Now You're Gone"..Diana Ross and the Supremes
27 "I Got Rhythm"..................The Happenings
28 "Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You"...The Monkees
29 "Never My Love" ................The Association
30 "This Is My Song"...............Petula Clark
31 "I Was Made to Love Her"........Stevie Wonder
32 "Snoopy vs. the Red Baron"......The Royal Guardsmen
33 "Gimme Some Lovin' "............The Spencer Davis Group
34 "Pleasant Valley Sunday"........The Monkees
35 "A Whiter Shade of Pale"........Procol Harum
36 "She'd Rather Be With Me".......The Turtles
37 "Soul Man"......................Sam and Dave
38 "Dedicated to the One I Love"...The Mamas and the Papas
39 "It Must Be Him"................Vikki Carr
40 "There's a Kind of Hush"........Herman's Hermits
41 "Bernadette"....................The Four Tops
42 "Come Back When Your Grow Up"...Bobby Vee
43 "The Rain, The Park & Other Things"..The Cowsills
44 "Gimme A Little Sign"...........Brenton Wood
45 "Incense and Peppermints".......The Strawberry Alarm Clock
46 "Sock It To Me, Baby".....Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
47 "Baby, I Love You"..............Aretha Franklin
48 "I Wanna Testify"...............The Parliaments
49 "You're My Everything"..........The Temptations
50 "Tell It Like It Is"............Aaron Neville
51 "Let's Live For Today"..........The Grass Roots
52 "Sweet Soul Music"..............Arthur Conley
53 "Come On Down To My Boat".......Every Mother's Son
54 "A Girl Like You"...............The Young Rascals
55 "Somebody To Love"..............The Jefferson Airplane
56 "Sunday Will Never Be The Same"..Spanky and Our Gang
57 "Funky Broadway"................Wilson Pickett
58 "Standing in The Shadows Of Love"..The Four Tops
59 "Dandelion".....................The Rolling Stones
60 "Society's Child"...............Janis Ian
61 "Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon"..Neil Diamond
62 "Please Love Me Forever"........Bobby Vinton
63 "Release Me"....................Engelbert Humperdinck
64 "98.6"..........................Keith
65 "Don't Let The Rain Fall Down On Me"..The Critters
66 "Alfie".........................Dionne Warwick
67 "Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye"..The Casinos
68 "Friday On My Mind".............The Easybeats
69 "San Francisco, Wear Some Flowers"..Scott McKenzie
70 "Daydream Believer".............The Monkees
71 "People Are Strange"............The Doors
72 "We Ain't Got Nothing' Yet".....The Blues Magoos
73 "C'mon Marianne"................The Four Seasons
74 "White Rabbit"..................The Jefferson Airplane
75 "Up Up and Away"................The Fifth Dimension
76 "Hey Leroy".....................Jimmy Castor
77 "Winchester Cathedral"..........The New Vaudeville Band
78 "That's Life"...................Frank Sinatra
79 "Creeque Alley".................The Mamas and Papas
80 "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"..Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell
81 "Pata Pata".....................Miriam Makeba
82 "Good Thing"....................Paul Revere and The Raiders
83 "Soul Finger"...................The Barkays
84 "Make Me Yours".................Bettye Swann
85 "California Nights".............Lesley Gore
86 "Natural Woman".................Aretha Franklin
87 "I Heard It Throught The Grapevine"..Gladys Knight and the Pips
88 "59th Street Bridge Song".......Harper's Bazarre
89 "Word Of Love"..................The Mamas and Papas
90 "Tell It To The Rain"...........The Four Seasons
91 "All I Need"....................The Temptations
92 "Stand By Me"...................Spyder Turner
93 "Devil With A Blue Dress On"....Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels
94 "Mirage"........................Tommy James and The Shondells
95 "Close Your Eyes"...............Peaches and Herb
96 "Portrait Of My Love"...........The Tokens
97 "Lady"..........................Jack Jones
98 "Mercy Mercy Mercy".............Cannonball Adderly
99 "Boogaloo Down Broadway"........Fantastic Johnny C
100 "Higher and Higher"............Jackie Wilson

Comments: A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You apparently sells better
and received more airplay than "We Ain't Got Nothing Yet" by Blues
Magoos, "Gimme Some Lovin" by Spencer Davis Group, "Sweet Soul Music"
by Arthur Conley, or "Higher and Higher" by Jackie Wilson is this list
is any reflection on record popularity in New York, and it probably
was. But that's Monkees fans for you, and/or pop radio ups and downs.
Pleasant surprises: "Mercy, Mercy, Mercy" by Cannonball Adderley doing
so well in New York, "Hey Leroy" by Jimmy Castor Bunch (Hispanic NY had
a vote).

"Society's Child" by Janis Ian, BG, is a very important record and
signpost of the times and I hope it is well up in your top 50 most
important records of 1967. So should be Scott McKenzie's "San
Francisco, Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair", only a #7 (or not much
more) on WABC (Society's Child made it up to #5), it was probably a #1
or top 3 record in a lot of other places. I would rather spend money
(or have spent) money of SFWSFIYH than To Sir With Love, but you have
to understand, a large part of WABC's audience were teeny-bopper girls
between 10 and 15, so I guess The Monkees and Lula were their heroes.

What's missing with this list? Any Otis Redding. Not even "Tramp"
with Carla Thomas. Otis Redding was popular at The Apollo in Harlem,
not on WABC. WABC could care less who was playing the Apollo. I don't
think I could overstate what I just said there.

What else is missing: Any evidence of B-Sides or their value
("Baby You're A Rich Man" by The Beatles, "Strawberry Fields Forever"
by Fabs, "Words" by The Monkees (a good track), "I Get The Feeling" by
the 4 Tops, "3rd Finger Left Hand" by Martha & The Vandellas, "Let's
Spend The Night Together" by The Rolling Stones)....but we all know
this station wasn't interested in B-Sides...that just complicated life
for them;
no more than they were (not) interested in featuring alternative or
competing versions of "Funky Broadway", such as the major Philly hit by
Dyke & The Blazers.

Yet, the pop songs that are here, many of them like Society's Child or
San Francisco, Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair, should not be overlooked
for enduring value or their importance to their times. What was
popular with teeny-bopper girls, whether Lulu or something else, was
another matter. And Neil Diamond, to his credit, kept his best songs
for himself.

-T.

mine enemy

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"PhillyGuy" <tomfro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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At least this puts Respect where it belongs. But then of course it
raises songs above it that certainly are not better than Aretha.

Even tho they don't list the B sides they most certainly did get
airplay, especially Beatles. I remember CFL (or WLS) playing Words
before it was released, the version on Missing Links 2.
(Was Spend The Night Together a B side??)

Anyway, yes, the list is fraught with poppy-stuff because that was still
the largest segment of the record buying public at the time. Certainly
more 'real', adult music was being made but it was not as popular, hence
the name of the charts.


Brett A. Pasternack

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Sav...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Brett A. Pasternack wrote:
> > But if you're going to ask me what song I'd take out of the top ten
> to
> > make room for "Tears", I'd probably suggest either "Sunshine Of Your
> > Love" or "Somebody To Love". Fine records--I like the first more than
> > the second--but not tremendously groundbreaking, not huge hits, not
> > songs that are often imitated or remade. With any of the others it's
> at
> > least close.
>
> How do you get that "Sunshine Of Your Love" and "Somebody To Love" were
> not huge hits?
>
> They were both top 5 singles and the lead track on huge albums.

In this context, I don't consider that "huge". "Huge" meaning
essentially "one of the biggest hits of the year", which would be one
criterion--certainly not the only one--to place something on a list of
the top ten most significant records of the year.

> I just don't see "Tears Of A Clown" as being all that significant, I'd
> list at least 5 Miracles songs as being more significant than that one.
>
> Shop Around
> You Really Got A Hold On Me
> Tracks Of My Tears
> Ooo Baby Baby
> Going To A Go-Go
> I Second That Emotion

<shrug> To me, only "You Really Got A Hold On Me" would be up there. I
mean, great records all, but not more important than this.

> The Rolling Stone Top 500 list has...
>
> # 65 - Sunshine Of Your Love
> # 274 - Somebody To Love
>
> Teras Of A Clown did not even make the list. If there's any list that
> values influence, it's that list, which includes songs by the Stooges,
> the Velevt Underground, etc....

Aren't you the one who usually doesn't value influence? Oh, well, no
matter. I'm not so much arguing its influence as its uniqueness and
quality. The sophisticated lyrics and emotional theme, the clever use of
the circus-music-recalling hooks, and Smokey's vocal. Difficult things
to quantify, I grant.

Sav...@aol.com

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Brett A. Pasternack wrote:
> > The Rolling Stone Top 500 list has...
> >
> > # 65 - Sunshine Of Your Love
> > # 274 - Somebody To Love
> >
> > Teras Of A Clown did not even make the list. If there's any list
that
> > values influence, it's that list, which includes songs by the
Stooges,
> > the Velevt Underground, etc....
>
> Aren't you the one who usually doesn't value influence?

Yes, I don't value influence as far as letting it affect my own taste,
but if I'm trying to objectively list the significant records of a
particular year, it's one criteria that needs to be included, since I
can't go by whether I like the record or not.

There seems to be an element of members here who automatically dismiss
a record just based on outside factors such as it not being original,
it not being influntial, etc...., in other words they will not like the
reco0rd as much, even if it sounds better than the stuff that it's
copying, merely based on the fact that it's not original sounding.

Oh, well, no
> matter. I'm not so much arguing its influence as its uniqueness and
> quality. The sophisticated lyrics and emotional theme, the clever use
of
> the circus-music-recalling hooks, and Smokey's vocal. Difficult
things
> to quantify, I grant.

Hey, I really like the record a lot, but I've just never heard it
spoken of as being influential in the way that a few of their earlier
records were, and certainly not more influential than the records that
I listed in the top ten for 1967. If I went by my own taste things like
"Purple Haze" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" would be nowhere near the
top 100, let alone the top ten.

gca...@aol.com

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WR over StL is fine by me;it';s the better JA song (Jefferson
Starship's best, of course, if MIRACLES. The LONG 7 minute version with
Mart Balin saying..
"I got a taste of the real world "
then Grace Slick saying "Just a drop of it"
then MB singing "When I went dwon on you girl"(!!!!!!!)
then GS: "No stopping it!)

NiwS by the Moodies I agree on!
I'm not sure what my top ten alone of 1967 would be but the top five
1.Light my fire,preferably long, by Doorsa
2.White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane
3.Can't take my eyes off of you by Frankie Valli
4.Nights in White Satin By Moody Blues (long version-short for 1972)
5.Hello Goodbye by Beatles


As for general, non-specific to the years list, I'd pick a replacement
for that list.


That 1980s(?) U2 song ONE--I'd put Three Dog Night (1969) there..they
get no respect And
here are some others I'd add just by three Dog Night
Liar
Out in the country
Joy to the world, in the top ten for sure..
Black and white
Mama Toold Me
Show Must go on
Shambala
and their other charted hits.

gca...@aol.com

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Here is my top tne list-sunject to change

1.LIGHT MY FIRE-preferably the album version/The Doors (voc.Jim Douglas
Morrison;keyboard/organ:Ray Manzarek;drums:John Densmore;guitar:Robby
Kreiger)

2.WHITE RABBIT/Jefferson Airplane (songwriter and also voc.Grace Slick)

3.CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF OF YOU/Frankie Valli (NOT a 4 Seasons song as
some <a href="http://www.winmx.com">WinMX</a> file names call it but
once and for all, a FRANKIE VALLI SOLO!)(prod.,wri.,arr.Bob gaudio and
Bob Crewe)

4.NIGHTS IN WHITE SATIN-Long version with "Breathe Deep" poem/THe Moody
Blues and The London Festival orchestra (Orch.cond.and arr.by Peter
knight;wri.and voco.Justin Hayward.,poem:BREATHE DEEP:most likely said
to be recited bY Graheme Edge,not by Justin Hayward)

5.HELLO GOODBYE/Beatles

6.YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON-the classic 7 and a half minute version is the
one that I usually refer-/Vanilla Fudge (wri.Holland, Dozier and
Holland-this is the same as the 1966 Surpremes sog)

7.GEORGY GIRL/Seekers

7.KIND OF A DRAG/Buckinghams (voc.Dennis Tufano)

8.INCENSE AND PEPPERMINTS/Strawberry Alarm Clock
9.PENNY LANE/Beatles

10..HAPPY TOGETHER-Turtles

JPD

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SavoyBG wrote:
> Working on a 1967 Top 100 for Digital Dream Door. This is just
impossible,

I've noticed others posting Top Tens. What I am going to do here is
edit the list down to those songs which I rate highly. Omission of a
song means EITHER that I don't know it OR that it didni't make the cut
for the length of the list. Normally, you wouldn't see me cut a
post-1965 Beatles song :) (perhaps George's Indian trips).

> All You Need Is Love - Beatles
> Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison
> Carrie-Anne - Hollies
> Creeque Alley - Mamas & Papas

Typo corrected there - three e's in Creeque

> Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson
> I Can See For Miles - The Who
> Itchycoo Park - Small Faces
> Let's Spend The Night Together - Rolling Stones


> Light My Fire - Doors

> Love Me Two Times - Doors
> Lovely Rita - Beatles
> Magical Mystery Tour - The Beatles


> Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues

> Penny Lane - The Beatles
> People Are Strange - Doors


> Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix

> Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane

> Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
> The Beat Goes On - Sonny & Cher
> The Rain, The Park, And Other Things - Cowsills

OK, so of that lot, I'd have a top ten something like -

1. Let's Spend the Night Together
2. People Are Strange
3. Itchycoo Park
4. Magical Mystery Tour
5. Tears of a Clown
6. Penny Lane
7. Carrie Anne
8. Somebody to Love
9. I Can See for Miles
10. Creeque Alley

--

JPD

JPD

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"JPD" <john_p...@yahoo.com.au> was moved to say:

>Normally, you wouldn't see me cut a
>post-1965 Beatles song :)

Post-script: If 1968 was not the high water mark for Beatles songs,
then I'm the Maharishi. I haven't studied the form guide, but it
would have to be some pretty hot songs to dislodge "Lady Madonna",
"Back in the USSR", "Revolution", "Hey Jude", "While My Guitar Gently
Weeps", "I'm So Tired", "Blackbird" and "Birthday" from my Top Ten :)

--

JPD


SGFN

SavoyBG

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>From: "gca...@aol.com" gca...@aol.com

>7.GEORGY GIRL/Seekers
>

>7.KIND OF A DRAG/Buckinghams (voc.Dennis Tufano)

The above two were released in 1966.

Lou Pecora

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Just some feedback:

In article <1104915855.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"gca...@aol.com" <gca...@aol.com> wrote:

> Here is my top tne list-sunject to change
>
> 1.LIGHT MY FIRE-preferably the album version/The Doors (voc.Jim Douglas
> Morrison;keyboard/organ:Ray Manzarek;drums:John Densmore;guitar:Robby
> Kreiger)

ABSOLUTELY. The long version.

> 2.WHITE RABBIT/Jefferson Airplane (songwriter and also voc.Grace Slick)

Good choice, not sure if it would make my top 10, but it's definitely
different. I like it. I would put White Rabbit on par with Somebody to
Love. The latter is commercially aimed, true, but it's a hell of a good
rock song.

> 3.CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF OF YOU/Frankie Valli (NOT a 4 Seasons song as
> some <a href="http://www.winmx.com">WinMX</a> file names call it but
> once and for all, a FRANKIE VALLI SOLO!)(prod.,wri.,arr.Bob gaudio and
> Bob Crewe)

Uh...No. An OK song, but not top 10...or even top 100. IMHO, of course.

> 4.NIGHTS IN WHITE SATIN-Long version with "Breathe Deep" poem/THe Moody
> Blues and The London Festival orchestra (Orch.cond.and arr.by Peter
> knight;wri.and voco.Justin Hayward.,poem:BREATHE DEEP:most likely said
> to be recited bY Graheme Edge,not by Justin Hayward)

Good song. The Moodys moved into their own with this one.

> 5.HELLO GOODBYE/Beatles

Nah. Nice Beatles song, but ... didn't do much for me. Purple Haze
would be better here.

> 6.YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON-the classic 7 and a half minute version is the
> one that I usually refer-/Vanilla Fudge (wri.Holland, Dozier and
> Holland-this is the same as the 1966 Surpremes sog)

YEah, That is a HELL of a version. I love it. Over the top, but that's
just right for the song.

> 7.GEORGY GIRL/Seekers

Huh?

> 7.KIND OF A DRAG/Buckinghams (voc.Dennis Tufano)

Not in my top 10, but I recognize that the Buckinghams were pretty
classy musically. Still a good song IMO.

> 8.INCENSE AND PEPPERMINTS/Strawberry Alarm Clock

Damn! I thought I was the only one who loved this song. The Alarm
Clock made a psychedellic masterpiece here.

> 9.PENNY LANE/Beatles

No. Fun tune, but maybe somewhere low in top 100.

> 10..HAPPY TOGETHER-Turtles

Not in my top 10, but good song. The Turtles were a fun group with
plenty of additive melodies and lyrics.

Thanks for posting that. Fun.

-- Lou Pecora (my views are my own)

Todd Lucas

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>Working on a 1967 Top 100 for Digital Dream
>Door. This is just impossible,

Any update on your progress, Bruce? Are you getting close to a final
list?

Todd

PhillyGuy

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With a lot of help from 'ABC's top 100, the CLASS of '67:

1) "Devil With A Blue Dress On"........Mitch Ryder and The Detroit
Wheels
2) "Light My Fire".....................The Doors
3) "Respect"...........................Aretha Franklin
4) "Gimme Some Lovin' "................The Spencer Davis Group
5) "A Whiter Shade of Pale"............Procol Harum
6) "Sweet Soul Music"..................Arthur Conley
7) "Society's Child"...................Janis Ian
8) "Strawberry Fields Forever".........The Beatles
9) "Somebody To Love"..................The Jefferson Airplane
10) "I've Been Lonely Too Long".........The Young Rascals
11) "Higher and Higher".................Jackie Wilson
12) "All I Need"........................The Temptations
13) "We Ain't Got Nothing' Yet".........The Blues Magoos
14) "Friday On My Mind".................The Easybeats
15) "Tramp".............................Otis Redding & Carla Thomas
16) "Soul Man"..........................Sam and Dave
17) "Let's Spend The Night Together"....The Rolling Stones
18) "Expressway to Your Heart"..........The Soul Survivors
19) "Groovin' ".........................The Young Rascals
20) "Kind of a Drag"................The Buckinghams
21) "Little Bit Of Soul"................The Music Explosion
22) "The Letter"........................The Box Tops
23) "San Francisco, Wear Some Flowers"..Scott McKenzie
24) "Tell It Like It Is"............Aaron Neville
25) "The Rain, The Park & Other Things"..The Cowsills

-T.

Sav...@aol.com

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PhillyGuy wrote:
> With a lot of help from 'ABC's top 100, the CLASS of '67:
>
> 1) "Devil With A Blue Dress On"........Mitch Ryder and The Detroit
> Wheels

Tom, this record is from 1966, it was on the Billboard chart already in
early October 1966.

Sav...@aol.com

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I need to get down to 110, and I'm stuck on 115 right now for the last
couple of days. Got side tracked today reorganizing all my Beatle stuff
as I now have everything that I want by them on the computer, but it
took all day to get things straightened out.

Still agonizing over the last few cuts.

I did decide on "See Emily Play" rather than one of the album cuts by
PF.

Sav...@aol.com

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Tood, just finished it and sent it off. With the emergence of three
legendary acts that year (Aretha, Doors, Hendrix) and the huge year for
the Beatles, there were a ton of significant records from that year.
Jimi, Aretha and the Doors have about 5 songs apiece on the list, with
the Beatles taking about 10 slots up, so that's 1/4 of the top 100 just
on those 4 artists.

The last couple of songs knocked off were "Magical Mystery Tour" and
"Tell Mama." I went for the flip side on the Etta James, "I'd Rather Go
Blind," which has held up more as the classic over the years.
I could easily have done a repectable top 200 for this year without
using any filler at all. Lotta big hits and significant stuff that I
just didn't have room for.

Here's what it looks like:

The 100 Greatest Recordings From 1967

These records were chosen and ranked based on their initial and lasting

popularity, and on their impact on the overall scope of musical
history.
Records are listed based on the year that they were released.

1 ¦ Respect - Aretha Franklin
2 ¦ Light My Fire - Doors
3 ¦ Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
4 ¦ Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
5 ¦ A Day In The Life - Beatles
6 ¦ Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
7 ¦ Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
8 ¦ Soul Man - Sam & Dave
9 ¦ Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles
10 ¦ Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
11 ¦ The Letter - Box Tops
12 ¦ Waterloo Sunset - Kinks
13 ¦ I Can See For Miles - The Who
14 ¦ My Back Pages - Byrds
15 ¦ White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
16 ¦ Time Has Come Today - Chambers Brothers
17 ¦ Dance To The Music - Sly & the Family Stone
18 ¦ Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison
19 ¦ A Natural Woman - Aretha Franklin
20 ¦ Happy Together - Turtles
21 ¦ Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
22 ¦ I Never Loved A Man - Aretha Franklin
23 ¦ Penny Lane - Beatles
24 ¦ The Dark End Of The Street - James Carr
25 ¦ I Second That Emotion - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
26 ¦ You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge
27 ¦ The End - Doors
28 ¦ Cold Sweat - James Brown
29 ¦ Get Together - Youngbloods
30 ¦ Different Drum - Stone Poneys
31 ¦ Chain Of Fools - Aretha Franklin
32 ¦ (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson
33 ¦ Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley
34 ¦ Let's Spend The Night Together - Rolling Stones
35 ¦ Darlin' - Beach Boys
36 ¦ Hello Goodbye - Beatles
37 ¦ Groovin' - Young Rascals
38 ¦ To Love Somebody - Bee Gees
39 ¦ Foxey Lady - Jimi Hendrix
40 ¦ Ain't No Mountain High Enough - Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
41 ¦ With A Little Help From My Friends - Beatles
42 ¦ People Are Strange - Doors
43 ¦ I Think We're Alone Now - Tommy James & the Shondells
44 ¦ I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Gladys Knight & the Pips
45 ¦ Your Precious Love -Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
46 ¦ Bernadette - Four Tops
47 ¦ Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - Beatles
48 ¦ Gentle On My Mind - Glen Campbell
49 ¦ San Francisco - Scott McKenzie
50 ¦ Tighten Up - Archie Bell & the Drells
51 ¦ Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
52 ¦ All You Need Is Love - Beatles
53 ¦ Break On Through - Doors
54 ¦ I'd Rather Go Blind - Etta James
55 ¦ Funky Broadway - Wilson Pickett
56 ¦ Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - Beatles
57 ¦ There Is - Dells
58 ¦ Love Me Two Times - Doors
59 ¦ I'm Waiting For The Man - Velvet Underground
60 ¦ The Wind Cries Mary - Jimi Hendrix
61 ¦ Incense And Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock
62 ¦ I Wish It Would Rain - Temptations
63 ¦ Creque Alley - Mamas & Papas
64 ¦ Mr. Soul - Buffalo Springfield
65 ¦ Society's Child - Janis Ian
66 ¦ Tramp - Otis Redding & Carla Thomas
67 ¦ Alone Again Or - Love
68 ¦ Nobody But Me - Human Beinz
69 ¦ She'd Rather Be With Me - Turtles
70 ¦ Expressway To Your Heart - Soul Survivors
71 ¦ Let's Live For Today - Grass Roots
72 ¦ I Am The Walrus - Beatles
73 ¦ Ode To Billy Joe - Bobbie Gentry
74 ¦ Spooky - Classics IV
75 ¦ Never My Love - Association
76 ¦ By The Time I Get To Phoenix - Glen Campbell
77 ¦ Tuesday Afternoon - Moody Blues
78 ¦ A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - Monkees
79 ¦ Strange Brew - Cream
80 ¦ Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo
81 ¦ Heroes And Villians - Beach Boys
82 ¦ I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die-Rag - Country Joe & the Fish
83 ¦ Getting Better - Beatles
84 ¦ You're My Everything - Temptations
85 ¦ Do Right Woman, Do Right Man - Aretha Franklin
86 ¦ Green Tambourine - Lemon Pipers
87 ¦ (I Wanna) Testify - Parliaments
88 ¦ Good Thing - Paul Revere & the Raiders
89 ¦ I've Been Lonely Too Long - Young Rascals
90 ¦ Alice's Restaurant Massacree - Arlo Guthrie
91 ¦ Reflections - Diana Ross & the Supremes
92 ¦ Jimmy Mack - Martha & the Vandellas
93 ¦ Baby, Now That I've Found You - Foundations
94 ¦ Love Is All Around - Troggs
95 ¦ The Rain, The Park, And Other Things - Cowsills
96 ¦ To Sir With Love - Lulu
97 ¦ Windy - Association
98 ¦ Ruby Tuesday - Rolling Stones
99 ¦ I'm A Man - Spencer Davis Group
100 ¦ Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion

10 more worth mentioning.
101 ¦ Itchycoo Park - Small Faces
102 ¦ Heroin - Velvet Underground
103 ¦ New York Mining Disaster 1941 - Bee Gees
104 ¦ Western Union - Five Americans
105 ¦ Paper Sun - Traffic
106 ¦ Carrie-Anne - Hollies
107 ¦ See Emily Play - Pink Floyd
108 ¦ I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder
109 ¦ Summer Rain - Johnny Rivers
110 ¦ Judy In Disguise - John Fred & the Playboy Band

Bruce's choice - An unheralded great record from 1967
* Don't Need Your Lovin' - Chocolate Watchband

Ludovic Delamare

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Il se trouve que Sav...@aol.com a formulé :

> Todd Lucas wrote:
>>> Working on a 1967 Top 100 for Digital Dream
>>> Door. This is just impossible,
>>
>> Any update on your progress, Bruce? Are you getting close to a final
>> list?
>>
>> Todd
>
> Tood, just finished it and sent it off. With the emergence of three
> legendary acts that year (Aretha, Doors, Hendrix) and the huge year for
> the Beatles, there were a ton of significant records from that year.
> Jimi, Aretha and the Doors have about 5 songs apiece on the list, with
> the Beatles taking about 10 slots up, so that's 1/4 of the top 100 just
> on those 4 artists.
>
> The last couple of songs knocked off were "Magical Mystery Tour" and
> "Tell Mama." I went for the flip side on the Etta James, "I'd Rather Go
> Blind," which has held up more as the classic over the years.
> I could easily have done a repectable top 200 for this year without
> using any filler at all. Lotta big hits and significant stuff that I
> just didn't have room for.
>
> Here's what it looks like:
>
> The 100 Greatest Recordings From 1967
>
> These records were chosen and ranked based on their initial and lasting
>
> popularity, and on their impact on the overall scope of musical
> history.
> Records are listed based on the year that they were released.
>
>
> Bruce's choice - An unheralded great record from 1967
> * Don't Need Your Lovin' - Chocolate Watchband

[list snipped]
Not too sure about #30, #65, #74 or #95.
What makes you believe these songs are classics ? imo, they're not.

--
Cordialement,
Ludovic
Please remove NOSPAM from my address to email me

PhillyGuy

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I certainly believe you all the way in this instance. I was scratching
my head thinking it must have been earlier the 1967, and here it is
also listed below lesser follow-up Sock It To Me, Baby. These must
have been significant sales and/or charting persisting in 1967 on that
station.

Sentiments are then to move everything up a notch and make Aretha's "I
Never Loved A Man" #25.

-tb

DianeE

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<Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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109 Ś Summer Rain - Johnny Rivers

Holy shit! I thought that record was from the *70s*! Boy, how memory plays
tricks.

DianeE


DianeE

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"Ludovic Delamare" <ludovic.rl.d...@free.fr> wrote in message
news:mn.34ac7d51e...@free.fr...

>
> [list snipped]
> Not too sure about #30, #65, #74 or #95.
> What makes you believe these songs are classics ? imo, they're not.
-----------
Depends how you define "classic" (ironically, one of these songs is by a
*group* called the Classics IV). I can testify that these songs were huge
hits in 1967; everybody knew them.

DianeE


Sav...@aol.com

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Ludovic Delamare wrote:
> Not too sure about #30, #65, #74 or #95.
> What makes you believe these songs are classics ? imo, they're not.

Different Drum
Society's Child
Spooky
The Rain, The Park And Other Things


In the case of "Different Drum" I've always perceived it as a classic
record, maybe I'm wrong.

"Society's Child" was a land mark record as far as the subject matter
of the song for 1967. I don't personally like the record that much, but
I've heard for years about its impact at the time, at least here in the
US.

The other two just are huge distinctive top 40/pop rock songs. "Spooky"
was the only Classics IV record that got on to any of these lists, and
I felt, their most memorable.

The Cowsills song is a favorite among folks who like the lighter side
of pop rock.

I'm trying hard here to at least reprsent the different parts of the
scene in those days. I could easily have left off some of these lighter
songs and put more Hendrix or Beatles on the list, but I felt that
these artists and songs deserved to be represented.

Ludovic Delamare

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DianeE vient de nous annoncer :

Maybe but they haven't passed the test of time as far as I'm concerned.

Greg Ioannou

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<Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In the case of "Different Drum" I've always perceived it as a classic
> record, maybe I'm wrong.
>
> "Society's Child" was a land mark record as far as the subject matter
> of the song for 1967. I don't personally like the record that much, but
> I've heard for years about its impact at the time, at least here in the
> US.
>
> The other two just are huge distinctive top 40/pop rock songs. "Spooky"
> was the only Classics IV record that got on to any of these lists, and
> I felt, their most memorable.
>
> The Cowsills song is a favorite among folks who like the lighter side
> of pop rock.
>
> I'm trying hard here to at least reprsent the different parts of the
> scene in those days. I could easily have left off some of these lighter
> songs and put more Hendrix or Beatles on the list, but I felt that
> these artists and songs deserved to be represented.

I agree with you in all four cases. (!)

Where you lose me with your 1967 is the weighting you give to soul stuff,
which wasn't an issue for me in the 1968 listings.

You have four Aretha songs in the top 31 -- and only 3 from the Beatles? I
don't think so! You have soul songs on the list that I don't even remember,
which wasn't the case for the 68 list.

Surprisingly, there are 13 songs on your list that I don't remember at all.
There was only 1 on the 1968 list. They aren't even all soul stuff:

22 ¦ I Never Loved A Man - Aretha Franklin

24 ¦ The Dark End Of The Street - James Carr

28 ¦ Cold Sweat - James Brown

45 ¦ Your Precious Love -Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

55 ¦ Funky Broadway - Wilson Pickett

57 ¦ There Is - Dells

66 ¦ Tramp - Otis Redding & Carla Thomas

70 ¦ Expressway To Your Heart - Soul Survivors

84 ¦ You're My Everything - Temptations
85 ¦ Do Right Woman, Do Right Man - Aretha Franklin

87 ¦ (I Wanna) Testify - Parliaments
88 ¦ Good Thing - Paul Revere & the Raiders

100 ¦ Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion

And while I'm at it, what is this sad little piece of filler doing on the
list?:

83 ¦ Getting Better - Beatles

Greg


Sav...@aol.com

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Greg Ioannou wrote:
> I agree with you in all four cases. (!)

Thank you.

Well, be assured that all of the soul records belong, even though it's
not your thing. I don't know how you never heard Aretha's first huge
hit single (I Never Loved A Man). How you missed some of those huge
soul hits can only be explained by where you lived at the time.

I think # 100 would be something you'd like a lot, see if you can find
a smaple somewhere. I've seen it categorized as bubble gum, but it's
more like a "Mony Mony" type sound. The Music Explosion record was top
ten for the year on WABC in NYC.

As for "Getting Better" being filler, I have to disagree, it's a very
influential song from the album, and it's widely known today from being
used in a couple of commercials, although I guess it was some studio
musician's version of the song.

Todd Lucas

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>The last couple of songs knocked off were
>"Magical Mystery Tour" and "Tell Mama." I went
>for the flip side on the Etta James, "I'd Rather
>Go Blind," which has held up more as the
>classic over the years.

Interesting, I just recently found a copy of the 45. I already knew
"Tell Mama" which is a great song. Now, I'll have to go back and give
the flipside another listen.

Todd

Gerry Zekelo

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"DianeE" <Tired...@SorryFolks.com> wrote in message
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I think it was actually re-issued in the 70's, so your mind may be
stable after all.


Brett A. Pasternack

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Greg Ioannou wrote:
>
> I agree with you in all four cases. (!)

I'm a big fan of "Different Drum" and I don't have any real problem with
any of the others being there.

> Surprisingly, there are 13 songs on your list that I don't remember at all.
> There was only 1 on the 1968 list. They aren't even all soul stuff:
>
> 22 ¦ I Never Loved A Man - Aretha Franklin
> 24 ¦ The Dark End Of The Street - James Carr
> 28 ¦ Cold Sweat - James Brown
> 45 ¦ Your Precious Love -Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
> 55 ¦ Funky Broadway - Wilson Pickett
> 57 ¦ There Is - Dells
> 66 ¦ Tramp - Otis Redding & Carla Thomas
> 70 ¦ Expressway To Your Heart - Soul Survivors
> 84 ¦ You're My Everything - Temptations
> 85 ¦ Do Right Woman, Do Right Man - Aretha Franklin
> 87 ¦ (I Wanna) Testify - Parliaments
> 88 ¦ Good Thing - Paul Revere & the Raiders
> 100 ¦ Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion

I'm very surprised that you aren't familiar with things like "Cold
Sweat", "I Never Loved A Man", "Expressway To Your Heart", and "Funky
Broadway", all of which I have heard many, many times on oldies stations
over the years. I could see that a couple of these might be a little
higher than they ought to be, but overall they seem right.

And the last two you mention aren't soul records at all, they're
pop-rock, and fairly rockin' at that. I'm thinking you'd know "Little
Bit O' Soul" if you heard it.

SavoyBG

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Well, the list went up today, and it turns out that "Society's Child" was
released well back in 1966, one reader posted that it was on Billboard's
"Bubbling Under" chart already in October 1966. This checks out correctly with
the label and number, so it will be removed and put into 1966 when I get to it.

So "Magical Mystery Tour" is now on the 1967 list in its place.

Marshall Stack

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<Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>Greg Ioannou wrote:
>>
>> And while I'm at it, what is this sad little piece of filler doing on
>>the list?:
>>
> >83 Ś Getting Better - Beatles

>
>As for "Getting Better" being filler, I have to disagree, it's a very
>influential song from the album, and it's widely known today from being
>used in a couple of commercials, although I guess it was some studio
>musician's version of the song.

I remember Paul McCartney singling out "Getting Better" as an example of the
synergy of his and Lennon's writing style. He talked about coming up with
the opening lines and playing them for John, a typical (if there is such a
thing) bouncy McCartney number:

Have to believe it's getting better
A little better all the time.

And John heard it and immediately supplied the garnish:

It can't get no worse

Which, double negative aside, was of course the perfect counterpoint for the
song, but something that McCartney'd have never come up with on his own.
Likewise, Paul would provide either the positive aspect or at least the
production sensibility than John's compositions sometimes lacked. Of course
I know that's generalizing and anyone willing to argue could provide
examples of John writing "Paul" songs and Paul writing "John" songs and both
of them writing songs while in the Beatles that the other contributed
essentially nothing to, but I definitely understood Paul's point. If for no
other reason than that the song was the perfect union of their songwriting
skills in Paul's mind, "Getting Better" deserves its place on the list.


TODD TAMANEND CLARK

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This is my current draft of my top one hundred songs for 1967:

001. When The Music's Over (The Doors)
002. The End (The Doors)
003. Third Stone From The Sun (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
004. Daily Nightly (The Monkees)
005. Break On Through (The Doors)
006. Are You Experienced (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
007. Moonlight Drive (The Doors)
008. Strange Days (The Doors)
009. Purple Haze (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
010. Light My Fire (The Doors)
011. The Crystal Ship (The Doors)
012. Soul Kitchen (The Doors)
013. You Set The Scene (Love)
014. White Rabbit (Jefferson Airplane)
015. Broken Arrow (Buffalo Springfield)
016. Live And Let Live (Love)
017. Pink Stainless Tail (The Red Crayola)
018. Slip Inside This House (The Thirteenth Floor Elevators)
019. My Eyes Have Seen You (The Doors)
020. Time Has Come Today (The Chambers Brothers)
021. Memorial To The American Indian (The Lewis And Clarke Expedition)
022. Drop Out (Pearls Before Swine)
023. Plastic Fantastic Lover (Jefferson Airplane)
024. Venus In Furs (The Velvet Underground)
025. Brown Shoes Don't Make It (The Mothers Of Invention)
026. Plastic People (The Mothers Of Invention)
027. Black Roses (Clear Light)
028. Super Bird (Country Joe And The Fish)
029. Electricity (Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band)
030. I Don't Live Today (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
031. People Are Strange (The Doors)
032. She Is Still A Mystery (The Lovin' Spoonful)
033. Heroes And Villains (The Beach Boys)
034. Somebody To Love (Jefferson Airplane)
035. Lightning's Girl (Nancy Sinatra)
036. Incense And Peppermints (Strawberry Alarm Clock)
037. Twelve Thirty (The Mamas And The Papas)
038. Society's Child (Janis Ian)
039. Pleasant Valley Sunday (The Monkees)
040. Omaha (Moby Grape)
041. No Time Like The Right Time (The Blues Project)
042. Earthquake (The Thirteenth Floor Elevators)
043. Some Velvet Morning (Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazelwood)
044. You Keep Me Hanging On (Vanilla Fudge)
045. Fakin' It (Simon And Garfunkel)
046. She's My Girl (The Turtles)
047. So You Want To Be A Rock'n'Roll Star (The Byrds)
048. Are You Gonna Be There (Chocolate Watch Band)
049. Let's Live For Today (The Grass Roots)
050. Knock Knock (The Fugs)
051. Two Heads (Jefferson Airplane)
052. Foxy Lady (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
053. Reflections (The Supremes)
054. A Thousand Shadows (The Seeds)
055. How Can I Be Sure (The Young Rascals)
056. Get Me To The World On Time (The Electric Prunes)
057. Double Yellow Line (The Music Machine)
058. Green Tambourine (The Lemon Pipers)
059. My Back Pages (The Byrds)
060. Put The Clock Back On The Wall (The E Types)
061. The River Is Wide (The Forum)
062. San Francisco (Scott McKenzie)
063. Can't Take My Eyes Off You (Frankie Valli)
064. Not So Sweet Martha Lorraine (Country Joe And The Fish)
065. A House Is Not A Motel (Love)
066. Comin' Back To Me (Jefferson Airplane)
067. The World's On Fire (Strawberry Alarm Clock)
068. The Ballad Of You And Me And Pooneil (Jefferson Airplane)
069. Soul Finger (The Bar-Kays)
070. Wild Honey (The Beach Boys)
071. Fantasy (Fifty Foot Hose)
072. Hurricane Fighter Plane (The Red Crayola)
073. She Lives In A Time Of Her Own (The Thirteenth Floor Elevators)
074. Smell Of Incense (The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band)
075. The Sorcerer (Miles Davis)
076. Train For Tomorrow (The Electric Prunes)
077. Turn On Tune In Drop Out (The Fugs)
078. Dark Side Of The Mushroom (Chocolate Watch Band)
079. Dark On You Now (The Peanut Butter Conspiracy)
080. Who Am I (Country Joe And The Fish)
081. Suicidal Flowers (The Crystal Chandelier)
082. The Diamond Mine (Dave Diamond And The Higher Elevation)
083. The Garden Is Open (The Fugs)
084. Horse Latitudes (The Doors)
085. It's A Happening Thing (The Peanut Butter Conspiracy)
086. If Not This Time (Fifty Foot Hose)
087. Transparent Radiation (The Red Crayola)
088. Death Sound (Country Joe And The Fish)
089. She Has Funny Cars (Jefferson Airplane)
090. Manic Depression (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
091. Fire (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
092. Waiting For The Man (The Velvet Underground)
093. Another Time (Pearls Before Swine)
094. Uncle John (Pearls Before Swine)
095. The Eagle Never Hunts The Fly (The Music Machine)
096. Fallin' (The Seeds)
097. Action Woman (The Litter)
098. Neon Rainbow (The Box Tops)
099. Susan (The Buckinghams)
100. Orange Air (The Fifth Dimension)

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TODD TAMANEND CLARK
Poet/Composer/Multi-Instrumentalist/Cultural Historian
Current Release: Monongahela Riverrun
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ttc3

Lou Pecora

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In article <1105036420....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Sav...@aol.com wrote:

> Here's what it looks like:
> The 100 Greatest Recordings From 1967
> These records were chosen and ranked based on their initial and lasting
> popularity, and on their impact on the overall scope of musical
> history.
> Records are listed based on the year that they were released.

First, thanks for taking the time to do this. A very good list with
many of my favorites. Just some comments...

> 1 ¦ Respect - Aretha Franklin

Excellent song, but I would not rank it first. However, having played
drums recently while a good chic singer laid it out, was terrifically
exciting.

> 2 ¦ Light My Fire - Doors

Ranked the best song, as I recall, for 1967. The full album version, of
course. The Doors at their best. Far above others.

> 3 ¦ Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream

Would reverse this with #4, but then that shows how good this was as was
the whole Disrali Gears Album.

> 4 ¦ Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix

No question here. Just move it to #3.

> 5 ¦ A Day In The Life - Beatles

Yes.

> 6 ¦ Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
> 7 ¦ Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
> 8 ¦ Soul Man - Sam & Dave
> 9 ¦ Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles
> 10 ¦ Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
> 11 ¦ The Letter - Box Tops
> 12 ¦ Waterloo Sunset - Kinks
> 13 ¦ I Can See For Miles - The Who
> 14 ¦ My Back Pages - Byrds
> 15 ¦ White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane

All above are classics.

> 16 ¦ Time Has Come Today - Chambers Brothers

A highly underrated and often forgotten song. Terrific dynamics. I can
still listen to it and just be moved. No solos or leads, but it works.

> 26 ¦ You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge

Oh, yeah. Over the top and great.

> 27 ¦ The End - Doors

This one has no equal. I can still listen to it and go into a trance.
Hey, maybe that's me, but I know of no other song that comes close.

> 39 ¦ Foxey Lady - Jimi Hendrix

Man, that Experience album had so many gems.

> 42 ¦ People Are Strange - Doors

They came back with another.

> 49 ¦ San Francisco - Scott McKenzie

OK, it's all about Hippies, but it works. I still want to go to SF.

> 53 ¦ Break On Through - Doors

Fabulous song. Listen to the Pearl Jam cover. Very good.

> 61 ¦ Incense And Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock

Psychedellic classic.

> 65 ¦ Society's Child - Janis Ian

Saw Janis recently on TV. She can still entertain. Very good song.
That organ riff at the end is to die for.

> 68 ¦ Nobody But Me - Human Beinz

Now here's a good group that came and went, but this song is a real
rocker. Play it and dance to it.

> 76 ¦ By The Time I Get To Phoenix - Glen Campbell

Glen had several good takes on Jimmy Webb songs. This was one.
Generally, not my style, but Glen and Jimmy were a such a good team that
I still listen to them (see also, Galveston, and Witchita Line Man
(spelling?). Very good.

> 77 ¦ Tuesday Afternoon - Moody Blues

The Moodys were hitting their stride.

> 79 ¦ Strange Brew - Cream

Another Disrali Gears tune. Outstanding. Buddy Guy covers this one.
How's that for cross fertilization?

> 80 ¦ Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo

Just a classic.

> 99 ¦ I'm A Man - Spencer Davis Group

You hear it, you gotta move. Absolutely soulfull, cool song.

> 100 ¦ Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion

Great fun. Still play it.

> 10 more worth mentioning.
> 101 ¦ Itchycoo Park - Small Faces

I still love this one. The effects are easy to do now, but were a
breakthrough and fit the song.

> 110 ¦ Judy In Disguise - John Fred & the Playboy Band

You know. one of the few I would disagree with.


I skipped a lot just cause I didn't have time to comment. Just amazing
what a year 1967 was.

Thanks, again.

Sav...@aol.com

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There's only 8 Doors songs in top 12, why so few?

You didn't see my post, "Society's Child" was out already in the fall
of 1966, it was already on Billboard's "Bubbling Under" chart in
October. The record took about 9 months before it became a hit.

"Soul Finger" was one of the last couple of songs that I cut. What are
the odds of Todd having a soul record on his list that didn't get on to
the final list that I drew up?

Since this is your own persona list of your favorites, which is an
entirely different thing that I was doing, here's are my personal
favorites from 1967:

MY TOP 100 RECORDINGS FROM 1967:
1 ¦ Respect ¦ Aretha Franklin
2 ¦ Sunshine Of Your Love ¦ Cream
3 ¦ Let's Live For Today ¦ Grass Roots
4 ¦ There Is ¦ Dells
5 ¦ Hello Goodbye ¦ Beatles
6 ¦ Penny Lane ¦ Beatles
7 ¦ Nine Pound Steel ¦ Joe Simon
8 ¦ I Heard It Through The Grapevine ¦ Gladys Knight & Pips
9 ¦ My Back Pages ¦ Byrds
10 ¦ Whiter Shade Of Pale ¦ Procol Harum
11 ¦ San Francisco ¦ Scott McKenzie
12 ¦ I'll Turn To Stone ¦ Four Tops
13 ¦ To Love Somebody ¦ Bee Gees
14 ¦ Get Together ¦ Youngbloods
15 ¦ Sweet Soul Music ¦ Arthur Conley
16 ¦ Greasy Spoon ¦ Rufus Thomas
17 ¦ Nobody But Me ¦ Human Beinz
18 ¦ Soul Man ¦ Sam & Dave
19 ¦ Tears Of A Clown ¦ Smokey Robinson & Miracles
20 ¦ Light My Fire ¦ Doors
21 ¦ Groovin' ¦ Young Rascals
22 ¦ Love Me Two Times ¦ Doors
23 ¦ Some Kind Of Wonderful ¦ Soul Brothers Six
24 ¦ Funky Broadway ¦ Wilson Pickett
25 ¦ Dance To The Music ¦ Sly & The Family Stone
26 ¦ Cold Sweat ¦ James Brown
27 ¦ Chain Of Fools ¦ Aretha Franklin
28 ¦ All You Need Is Love ¦ Beatles
29 ¦ Don't Need Your Lovin' ¦ Chocolate Watchband
30 ¦ Different Drum ¦ Stone Poneys
31 ¦ A Day In The Life ¦ Beatles
32 ¦ Break On Through ¦ Doors
33 ¦ Do Right Woman, Do Right Man ¦ Aretha Franklin
34 ¦ She'd Rather Be With Me ¦ Turtles
35 ¦ Gimme Little Sign ¦ Brenton Wood
36 ¦ Mirage ¦ Tommy James & Shondells
37 ¦ Gentle On My Mind ¦ Glen Campbell
38 ¦ Little Bit Of Soul ¦ Music Explosion
39 ¦ The Letter ¦ Box Tops
40 ¦ Expressway To Your Heart ¦ Soul Survivors
41 ¦ Your Precious Love ¦ Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
42 ¦ Carrie-Anne ¦ Hollies
43 ¦ Happy Together ¦ Turtles
44 ¦ New York Mining Disaster 1941 ¦ Bee Gees
45 ¦ Somebody To Love ¦ Jefferson Airplane
46 ¦ Higher And Higher ¦ Jackie Wilson
47 ¦ The Happening ¦ Supremes
48 ¦ The Rain, The Park And Other Things ¦ Cowsills
49 ¦ Nights In White Satin ¦ Moody Blues
50 ¦ Ruby Tuesday ¦ Rolling Stones
51 ¦ Take Me (Just As I Am) ¦ Solomon Burke
52 ¦ Piece Of My Heart ¦ Erma Franklin
53 ¦ You're My Everything ¦ Temptations
54 ¦ Massachusetts ¦ Bee Gees
55 ¦ The Dark End Of The Street ¦ James Carr
56 ¦ Dr. Feelgood ¦ Aretha Franklin
57 ¦ People Are Strange ¦ Doors
58 ¦ Bring It Up ¦ James Brown
59 ¦ (I Wanna) Testify ¦ Parliaments
60 ¦ That Did It ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland
61 ¦ Western Union ¦ Five Americans
62 ¦ Let's Live For Today ¦ Living Daylights
63 ¦ Run Run Run ¦ Third Rail
64 ¦ Let's Spend The Night Together ¦ Rolling Stones
65 ¦ I Never Loved A Man ¦ Aretha Franklin
66 ¦ Fed Up With The Blues ¦ O.V. Wright
67 ¦ Boogaloo Down Broadway ¦ Fantastic Johnny C
68 ¦ Windy ¦ Association
69 ¦ I Don't Wanna Lose You ¦ Jackie Wilson
70 ¦ A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You ¦ Monkees
71 ¦ Love Is All Around ¦ Troggs
72 ¦ Love You So Much ¦ New Colony Six
73 ¦ Midnight Confessions ¦ Evergreen Blues
74 ¦ Baby, Now That I've Found You ¦ Foundations
75 ¦ All I Need ¦ Temptations
76 ¦ I Wish It Would Rain ¦ Temptations
77 ¦ The Oogum Boogum Song ¦ Brenton Wood
78 ¦ Good Thing ¦ Paul Revere & Raiders
79 ¦ Green Tambourine ¦ Lemon Pipers
80 ¦ Creeque Alley ¦ Mamas & Papas
81 ¦ Tighten Up ¦ Archie Bell & Drells
82 ¦ Jimmy Mack (single version) ¦ Martha & Vandellas
83 ¦ Things I Should Have Said ¦ Grass Roots
84 ¦ I Second That Emotion ¦ Smokey Robinson & Miracles
85 ¦ I Think We're Alone Now ¦ Tommy James & Shondells
86 ¦ Mercy Mercy Mercy ¦ Cannonball Adderly
87 ¦ I'd Rather Go Blind ¦ Etta James
88 ¦ Bend Me, Shape Me ¦ American Breed
89 ¦ Darlin' ¦ Beach Boys
90 ¦ Him Or Me - What's It Gonna Be ¦ Paul Revere & Raiders
91 ¦ Feel Like I'm Fixin'To Die ¦ Country Joe & Fish
92 ¦ Never My Love ¦ Association
93 ¦ Incense And Peppermints ¦ Strawberry Alarm Clock
94 ¦ Jackson ¦ Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood
95 ¦ Respect ¦ Vagrants
96 ¦ The Lady In Black ¦ Fats Domino
97 ¦ Daydream Believer ¦ Monkees
98 ¦ Tramp ¦ Otis Redding & Carla Thomas
99 ¦ Judy In Disguise ¦ John Fred & Playboy Band
100 ¦ Two Steps Forward ¦ Muddy Waters

BUBBLING UNDER FROM 1967:
101 ¦ I Can See For Miles ¦ The Who
102 ¦ Out Of The Blue ¦ Tommy James & Shondells
103 ¦ In The Morning ¦ Mighty Marvelows
104 ¦ There's A Kind Of Hush ¦ Herman's Hermits
105 ¦ Strange Brew ¦ Cream
106 ¦ Ode To Billy Joe ¦ Bobbie Gentry

Sav...@aol.com

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Did you play it yet?

Ch-ch-ch-ch-Chewbop-bop

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<Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1105163397....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

TODD TAMANEND CLARK wrote:
> This is my current draft of my top one hundred songs for 1967:
>
> 001. When The Music's Over (The Doors)
> 002. The End (The Doors)
> 003. Third Stone From The Sun (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
> 004. Daily Nightly (The Monkees)
> 005. Break On Through (The Doors)
> 006. Are You Experienced (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
> 007. Moonlight Drive (The Doors)
> 008. Strange Days (The Doors)
> 009. Purple Haze (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)
> 010. Light My Fire (The Doors)
> 011. The Crystal Ship (The Doors)
> 012. Soul Kitchen (The Doors)

There's only 8 Doors songs in top 12, why so few?

LOL!!


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I'm listening to the long version of LIGHT MY FIRE (NIGHTS IN WHITE
SATIN & WHITE RABBIT are also on the list)--all on my RealAudio mp3
jukebox.

And don't forget Frankie Valli's great CAN"T TAKE MY EYES OFF OF
YOU-with all of its super tempo and feel changes.

gca...@aol.com

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I'm listening tok the long verison of LIGHT MY FIRE on my RealAudio mp3
(opn the computer-WHITE RABBIT is on it as well, for 1967 hits).

Don't forget Frankie Valli's CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF YOU.

Great cabaret-lounge horn segue there between the second and third
verse and the choruses!:)

TODD TAMANEND CLARK

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> "Savoy" Bruce Grossberg wrote:
>
> There's only 8 Doors songs in top 12, why so few?

Let the quality fall where it may.

> "Society's Child" was out already in the fall of 1966, it was
> already on Billboard's "Bubbling Under" chart in October. The
> record took about 9 months before it became a hit.

Okay, I've deleted "Society's Child" from my 1967 list and moved it
to my 1966 list. All other songs below 38 move up one slot and this
song gets added in at 100:

100. Sunday Morning (The Velvet Underground)

> This is your own personal list of your favorites, which is an
> entirely different thing that I was doing...

I fully understand that, and you're doing a very good job of being
inclusive of multiple genres. I was just calling people's attention
to some music I like that they may want to investigate for their
own listening pleasure.

Here is the current draft of my next one hundred songs for 1967:

101. Sitting By The Window (Moby Grape)
102. Six O'Clock (The Lovin' Spoonful)
103. Fall On You (Moby Grape)
104. I'm Five Years Ahead Of My Time (The Third Bardo)
105. Prince Of Darkness (Miles Davis)
106. The Golden Road To Unlimited Devotion (The Grateful Dead)
107. Night Sounds Loud (Clear Light)
108. Only Pretty What A Pity (The Lovin' Spoonful)
109. The Subway Ride Thru Inner Space (The Freak Scene)
110. Up And Downs (Paul Revere And The Raiders)
111. I Think We're Alone Now (Tommy James And The Shondells)
112. Summer Rain (Johnny Rivers)
113. Expressway To Your Heart (The Soul Survivors)
114. Windy (The Association)
115. Mirage (Tommy James And The Shondells)
116. Rock'n'Roll Woman (Buffalo Springfield)
117. I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight (Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart)
118. It's Wonderful (The Rascals)
119. Viola Lee Blues (The Grateful Dead)
120. Run Run Run (The Third Rail)
121. Creeque Alley (The Mamas And The Papas)
122. Spooky (The Classics IV)
123. I've Been Lonely Too Long (The Young Rascals)
124. C'mon Marianne (The Four Seasons)
125. Groovin' (The Young Rascals)
126. Him Or Me- What's It Gonna Be (Paul Revere And The Raiders)
127. Judy In Disguise (John Fred And His Playboy Band)
128. The Rain The Park And Other Things (The Cowsills)
129. Pipe Dream (The Blues Magoos)
130. California Nights (Lesley Gore)
131. Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin)
132. Little Bit O' Soul (The Music Explosion)
133. Hey Joe (Cher)
134. I Dig Rock And Roll Music (Peter Paul And Mary)
135. Step Out Of Your Mind (The American Breed)
136. Mister Blue (Clear Light)
137. The Letter (The Box Tops)
138. Different Drum (The Stone Poneys)
139. Ain't No Mountain High Enough (Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell)
140. I Was Made To Love Her (Stevie Wonder)
141. Peace Of Mind (Paul Revere And The Raiders)
142. She'd Rather Be With Me (The Turtles)
143. Too Much Of Nothing (Peter Paul And Mary)
144. Beg Borrow And Steal (The Ohio Express)
145. The Flower Children (Marcia Strassman)
146. Up Up And Away (The Fifth Dimension)
147. Happy Together (The Turtles)
148. It's Cold Outside (The Choir)
149. Girl You'll Be A Woman Soon (Neil Diamond)
150. You Know What I Mean (The Turtles)
151. Gimme Little Sign (Brenton Wood)
152. Gettin' Together (Tommy James And The Shondells)
153. Making Every Minute Count (Spanky And Our Gang)
154. I Feel Good; I Feel Bad (The Lewis And Clarke Expedition)
155. Respect (The Vagrants)
156. Come On Down To My Boat Baby (Every Mother's Son)
157. Girl You Captivate Me (Question Mark And The Mysterians)
158. Sunday Will Never Be The Same (Spanky And Our Gang)
159. Paper Cup (The Fifth Dimension)
160. Explosion In Your Soul (The Soul Survivors)
161. Jackson (Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazelwood)
162. Hey Grandma (Moby Grape)
163. C.T.A.-102 (The Byrds)
164. A Girl Like You (The Young Rascals)
165. Insanity Comes Quietly To The Structured Mind (Janis Ian)
166. Tomorrow (Strawberry Alarm Clock)
167. I Live In The Springtime (The Lemon Drops)
168. Don't You Care (The Buckinghams)
169. Beat The Clock (The McCoys)
170. One By One (The Blues Magoos)
171. Haight Ashbury (Teddy And His Patches)
172. Dance To The Music (Sly And The Family Stone)
173. Have You Seen Her Face (The Byrds)
174. I Wish It Would Rain (The Temptations)
175. Ode To Billy Joe (Bobby Gentry)
176. Story Of My Life (The Unrelated Segments)
177. Sweet Young Thing (The Chocolate Watch Band)
178. Suzy Creamcheese (Teddy And His Patches)
179. Count Back (The Purple Underground)
180. Feeling Zero (Neighb'rhood Childr'n)
181. More Than Me (The Wildflowers)
182. No Friend Of Mine (The Sparkles)
183. Knock Knock (The Humane Society)
184. I Can Feel It (Flower Power)
185. Apothecary Dream (The Sound Sandwich)
186. Funny Things Floating (Sweet Cherry)
187. Love In (Noah's Ark)
188. Semi Psychedelic (Pepper And The Shakers)
189. My Daze (Boston Tea Party)
190. Blackout Of Gretely (Gonn)
191. It's Love (The Misty Wizards)
192. Back Up (Light)
193. Me (The Brain Train)
194. The Expectation (The Dutch Masters)
195. You Don't Remember (Twentieth Century Zoo)
196. Flight Patterns (Dennis And The Times)
197. Relative Distance (The Fumin' Humins)
198. Take A Ride (The Chocolate Moose)
199. Jill (Gary Lewis And The Playboys)
200. Summer's Daughter (The Fifth Dimension)

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TODD TAMANEND CLARK wrote:
> > This is your own personal list of your favorites, which is an
> > entirely different thing that I was doing...
>
> I fully understand that, and you're doing a very good job of being
> inclusive of multiple genres. I was just calling people's attention
> to some music I like that they may want to investigate for their
> own listening pleasure.

Thank you....I think.

> Here is the current draft of my next one hundred songs for 1967:

> 115. Mirage (Tommy James And The Shondells)


> 116. Rock'n'Roll Woman (Buffalo Springfield)

> 126. Him Or Me- What's It Gonna Be (Paul Revere And The Raiders)

> 134. I Dig Rock And Roll Music (Peter Paul And Mary)

> 146. Up Up And Away (The Fifth Dimension)

> 151. Gimme Little Sign (Brenton Wood)

I hated leaving all of these off of the list that I made up, but 1967
was just jammed with significant songs. All of these would have made
the list had they been from 1968 or 1969.

I'm wondering if things will be just as tough in 1966 and 1965 when I
get to those years.

Todd Lucas

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>Todd

Just listened to "I'd Rather Go Blind" a couple of times and like it
quite a bit. I can see why it's considered a classic. I still like
"Tell Mama" better but that's probably because I usually prefer faster,
more upbeat songs over ballads.
Todd

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Todd Lucas wrote:
>
> Just listened to "I'd Rather Go Blind" a couple of times and like it
> quite a bit. I can see why it's considered a classic. I still like
> "Tell Mama" better but that's probably because I usually prefer
faster,
> more upbeat songs over ballads.
> Todd

Me too, but also, when you hear things for the first time (or few
times), I think an upbeat record has a better chance to make a quick
impression. It usually takes longer before you can appreciate the
slower stuff.

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