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The Singing Nun - Dominique - 1963

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Uni

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May 26, 2009, 10:50:35 PM5/26/09
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A friend heard me playing this at work, and it put a smile on his face,
while saying "I haven't heard that in ages!", then began to whistle it
as he walked away! Anyway, here's a Stereo version, nice and clear
sounding!...

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/dominique.mp3

Very nice! Take some bows, up there in Heaven!

Uni

Beast of Burden

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May 27, 2009, 6:45:03 AM5/27/09
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Uni, correct me if I'm wrong (like you would not) I think "the nun" was the
last non-American act to chart highly on the US charts until those four guys
from Liverpool.

Again, good stuff though.

Beast

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Indydave

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May 27, 2009, 12:57:48 PM5/27/09
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On May 27, 3:45 am, "Beast of Burden" <beastofbur...@att.net> wrote:
> Uni, correct me if I'm wrong (like you would not) I think "the nun" was the
> last non-American act to chart highly on the US charts until those four guys
> from Liverpool.
>
> Again, good stuff though.
>
> Beast
>
> "Uni" <no.em...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
>
How about the late 60s' 'Ma Belle Amie' by the Tee Set?

I think they were a Dutch group, but I'm not sure which chart they
charted high on - they reached the top 10 in one of them :)

Indydave

Taliesyn

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May 27, 2009, 3:50:13 PM5/27/09
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"Beast of Burden" <beasto...@att.net> wrote in
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> Uni, correct me if I'm wrong (like you would not) I think "the nun"
> was the last non-American act to chart highly on the US charts until
> those four guys from Liverpool.
>

US charts, yes. But not on some Canadian charts like this one from
Vancouver, BC where I lived. On the December 14th, 1963, Vancouver Radio
CFUN chart you'll note that Beatlmania took hold in Vancouver about a month
before it did in the States. "She Loves You" was already #2 and "I Want To
Hold Your Hand" wouldn't be released until January 1964. Even "Please Mr.
Postman" was the Pick Hit that week.

CFUN CHART NON-American acts - December 14th, 1963

#2 - She Loves You - The Beatles (went to #1)
#5 - Dominique - The Singing Nun (that's as high as the song got)
#6 - Shindig - The Shadows
#10 - It's All In The Game - Cliff Richard
Pick Hit - Please Mr. Postman - The Beatles

> Again, good stuff though.

Because it was so different at the time, "Dominique" was a cute novelty
record in 1963. But it doesn't have a prayer today (pardon the pun) of
getting on my mp3 player with the rest of the classic hits of old.

-Taliesyn

Beast of Burden

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May 27, 2009, 5:50:24 PM5/27/09
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Taliesyn, maybe the Canadians got it faster than the US charts, Congratz!.
But there were a lot of us here in the states playing and diggin She Loves
You, From Me to You, Please Please Me, etc. long before the effin US masses
and Ed Sullivan caught up with us.

Beast

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Uni

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May 27, 2009, 8:43:33 PM5/27/09
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Indydave wrote:
> On May 27, 3:45 am, "Beast of Burden" <beastofbur...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>Uni, correct me if I'm wrong (like you would not) I think "the nun" was the
>>last non-American act to chart highly on the US charts until those four guys
>>from Liverpool.
>>
>>Again, good stuff though.
>>
>>Beast
>>
>>"Uni" <no.em...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>
> How about the late 60s' 'Ma Belle Amie' by the Tee Set?
>
> I think they were a Dutch group, but I'm not sure which chart they
> charted high on - they reached the top 10 in one of them :)
>
> Indydave

Yeah, and The Shocking Blue! Oh, and The George Baker Selection!

Uni

Michael Black

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May 27, 2009, 8:39:29 PM5/27/09
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On Wed, 27 May 2009, Uni wrote:

> Indydave wrote:
>> On May 27, 3:45 am, "Beast of Burden" <beastofbur...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Uni, correct me if I'm wrong (like you would not) I think "the nun" was
>>> the
>>> last non-American act to chart highly on the US charts until those four
>>> guys
>>> from Liverpool.
>>>
>>> Again, good stuff though.
>>>
>>> Beast
>>>
>>> "Uni" <no.em...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
>>>
>>
>> How about the late 60s' 'Ma Belle Amie' by the Tee Set?
>>
>> I think they were a Dutch group, but I'm not sure which chart they
>> charted high on - they reached the top 10 in one of them :)
>>
>> Indydave
>
> Yeah, and The Shocking Blue! Oh, and The George Baker Selection!
>

Sure, and neither of you two can read.

It wasn't that there were no more "foreign" hits in North America
after the Singing Nun, it was wondered if her song was the last
"foreign" hit before The Beatles arrived.

Note the original point didn't even say anything about language.

There's no sense in listing "foreign" hits after The Beatles
because they were endless.

Michael

Ken Whiton

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May 29, 2009, 3:15:32 AM5/29/09
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*-* On Wed, 27 May 2009, at 10:45:03 GMT,
*-* In Article PQ8Tl.287894$4m1.2...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
*-* Beast of Burden wrote
*-* About Re: The Singing Nun - Dominique - 1963

> Uni, correct me if I'm wrong (like you would not) I think "the nun"
> was the last non-American act to chart highly on the US charts until
> those four guys from Liverpool.

You're probably right, ... because there was only about two
months between them. "Dominique" entered the Billboard chart on
November 9, 1963, and The Beatles' "I Want To Hold Your Hand" entered
on January 18, 1964 (closely followed by "She Loves You" on January
25, 1964, and "Please Please Me" on February 1, 1964).

Ken Whiton
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Dean F.

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May 29, 2009, 5:08:21 AM5/29/09
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I still find it hard to believe that a pair of snoozers like
"Dominique" and "There! I've Said It Again" kept "Louie, Louie" from
hitting #1. Thank god for soul music and the Brits!

Beast of Burden

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May 31, 2009, 11:37:41 AM5/31/09
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So true those words. Those songs ahead of Louie, Louie is a crying shame
(umm, might make a good name for a band......). But time often corrects
such errors. I've never been a concert, at any venue level, when someone in
the crowd yelled "Play Dominique." I have, however, heard the refrain of
"Play Louie, Louie" many, many times.

Beast

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Jan Dean

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May 31, 2009, 6:21:07 PM5/31/09
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Dean F. wrote:

> I still find it hard to believe that a pair of snoozers like
> "Dominique" and "There! I've Said It Again" kept "Louie, Louie" from
> hitting #1.

Hard to believe"?

"Hard to believe" you say?

Let us take a careful look at each one of these three candidates for the
apex of the top 40 chart in 1963.

We will consider carefully the strengths and weaknesses of each record
and decide which one of the three is the LEAST likely to go to the top.


CONTESTANT No. 1

"Dominique" by The Singing Nun a/k/a Soeur Sourire a/k/a Jeanne-Paule
Marie Deckers.

Every now and then, God decides he needs a top 40 hit to remind us that
He is still around. So, we get the occasional "He's Got the Whole World
in His Hands" or "Spirit in the Sky."

At the same time, the Devil needs songs in the charts for various
reasons, whether to ensure his corruptive influence on teens or to
tighten his grip on the immortal soul of a particular pop recording artist.

Those of us who are old enough to have seen Soeur Sourire perform
"Dominique" on Ed Sullivan will remember this pretty little Belgian
delight as the epitome of goodness, innocence and purity. But the tragic
and sordid events of her life that followed her victorious climb to the
toppermost of the poppermost reveal that, unbeknownst to mortal men at
the time, a great battle was being waged in the supernatural realm for
her soul.

So, both God AND Satan had a stake in the success of this little vinyl
45 r.p.m. Either of these unstoppable, ultimate powers, respectively for
good and evil, will guarantee the success of a 45 r.p.m. record. But
when BOTH are promoting the record, its climb to the number one spot is
assured.

"Dominique" is one of those rare records that had the force of BOTH God
AND Satan behind it.


Contestant No. 2

"There! I've Said It Again" By Bobby Vinton a/k/a Stanley Robert
Vintula, Jr. a/k/a the Polish Prince.

Talk to any female in the U.S. who was a teen or pre-teen in 1963, and
she will attest that Bobby Vinton had the rare ability to make little
girls wet between the legs.

Elvis needed to shake his hips and gyrate on stage to accomplish this
feat. Not so the Polish Prince. He required NOTHING MORE THAN THE
CLEAR, INTIMATE SOUND OF HIS VOICE.

When Jim Morrison sang "The men don't know, but the little girls
understand," he could have been referring obliquely to the voice of
Bobby Vinton.

A whole generation of females first became acquainted with the
mysterious, inexplicable feelings of sexual urgency, courtesy of the
redoubtable Mister V.

Consequently, "There! I've Said It Again" was a strong force to be
reckoned with in the Top 40 charts.


Contestant No. 3

"Louie, Louie" by the Kingsmen.

And what of this competitor to the two formidable contestants?

What exactly do we have here? The sound of a guy flailing away on a drum
kit while shouting semi-intelligible, suspectedly smutty lyrics to a
microphone hanging above his head in a primitive recording studio, while
his bandmates play the same three chords over and over and over and
over, punctuated by the threatening "Let's give it to 'em, right now!"

"Louie, Louie," you will recall, was NOT a hit record for its composer
Richard Berry in 1955, nor was it a national hit for another, then
small-time group, that released its version of the song in 1963, Paul
Revere & the Raiders.

The Kingsmen's record was likewise headed for the dustbin of obscurity
until the self-appointed Guardians of Morality, their imaginations
running wild, gave the record notoriety as a threat to teen-age virtue,
unwittingly giving it publicity that money could not buy.

Even the FBI had a file on the Kingsmen and their allegedly smutty record.

While this development caused many teenagers to buy the record, and
strain their ears to catch the allegedly smutty lyrics, it also hindered
sales of the record since many radio stations refused to play it.

So, here you have the three contestants before you:
One record backed by both God and Satan,
another record that gave safe, cheap thrills to little girls,
and LOUIE, LOUIE.

If you were a betting man in 1963, which of these three would you
predict to become the least successful in the charts?

Dean F.

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May 31, 2009, 8:46:46 PM5/31/09
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On May 31, 6:21 pm, Jan Dean <jand...@surfcity.com> wrote:

> When Jim Morrison sang "The men don't know, but the little girls
> understand," he could have been referring obliquely to the voice of
> Bobby Vinton.

Howlin' Wolf sang it first.

Dean F.

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May 31, 2009, 8:54:21 PM5/31/09
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As an atheist, I'm going to assume you were joking about all that
"God" and "Satan" bullshit.

Jan Dean

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May 31, 2009, 9:42:59 PM5/31/09
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Dean F. wrote:

I believe we may safely posit that Howlin' Wolf was NOT referring
obliquely to Bobby Vinton's voice.

Taliesyn

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May 31, 2009, 9:54:05 PM5/31/09
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Jan Dean <jan...@surfcity.com> wrote in
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>
> If you were a betting man in 1963, which of these three would you
> predict to become the least successful in the charts?
>

If I was a betting man (and a record executive) back in 1963, I'd probably
pick "Louie Louie" to be least successful. Face it, it was a crude, punk
rock sounding record with questionable marketability. There was little or
nothing like it played on radio. Was the world ready for it? Well, The
Beatles would shortly answer that question ;-). On the other hand, Bobby
Vinton was already a very successful artist, expecially that year, 1963.
And as record executive, I'd a known about "Dominique" being a hit all over
Europe. It would probably be a sure-fire, one-off novelty hit in America as
well.

Now looking back as a non-record executive, "Louie Louie" didn't interest
me at all when it first came out. That is, not until the arrival of the
Beatles and the Dave Clark Five and several of their hard rockin' hits.
Then suddenly I was placed in the right frame of mind to appreciate "Louie
Louie". In fact I bought it later that spring in '64, several months after
it had become a hit.

-Taliesyn

Uni

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May 31, 2009, 11:19:52 PM5/31/09
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Jan Dean wrote:
> Dean F. wrote:
>
>> I still find it hard to believe that a pair of snoozers like
>> "Dominique" and "There! I've Said It Again" kept "Louie, Louie" from
>> hitting #1.
>
>
> Hard to believe"?
>
> "Hard to believe" you say?

Louie Louie? No way, it's hard to believe! One sung in a foreign
language, the other English. Neither of them you can understand!!!

Uni

elaich

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Jun 1, 2009, 3:21:22 AM6/1/09
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"Dean F." <soule...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8412767c-f376-4942-a415-
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> I still find it hard to believe that a pair of snoozers like
> "Dominique" and "There! I've Said It Again" kept "Louie, Louie" from
> hitting #1. Thank god for soul music and the Brits!

These were the main reason for the Brits getting the hits. American
teenagers wanted to rock out, and America was offering them schmaltz.

Turk 182

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Jun 3, 2009, 2:00:21 AM6/3/09
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Awesome article!
Concise and well spoken, I believe it's factual.
I wonder if anyone knows *all* the lyrics of Louie, Louie...
Thank you for the history, well I do have to question the part about

"rare ability to make little girls wet between the legs."

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Ron Fowler

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You might find the lyrics to Louie at http://www.louielouie.net - or you
might not, but there's a wealth of info there about the song.

Turk 182

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On Jun 3, 12:07 am, lonelysum...@webtv.net (Ron Fowler) wrote:
> You might find the lyrics to Louie athttp://www.louielouie.net- or you

> might not, but there's a wealth of info there about the song.

That was fast! Thank you, Ron.

I'll try that. I used to sing that song in a medley, so I never really
needed too many lyrics. I was thinking of maybe doing a rewrite so we
can all have a little fun at Uni's expense. I would start by changing
the title to "Uni, Uni"...

But then of course he'd just change it to Turkey, Turkey...

Not today dear, I have a headache!
Vic

P.S.- One hundred forty one could write better than he
But Uni was looking for one forty three...
Eunuch - the 142nd fastest snipper- in the West

Uni

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Jun 3, 2009, 10:15:01 AM6/3/09
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Turk 182 wrote:

> That was fast! Thank you, Ron.

> Awesome article!
> Great Question, Beast, by the way!


Hey, RCA Victor, you better saying some nice things about my posts, or
else!!!!!

Uni :-)

Turk 182

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> Turk 182 wrote:
>
>> That was fast! Thank you, Ron.
> > Awesome article!
>> Great Question, Beast, by the way!
>
>
> Hey, RCA Victor, you better saying some nice things about my posts, or
> else!!!!!
>
> Uni :-)

And since I didn't like the way she said "or else"
I went down there and proceeded to carry out her instructions

I sat the ten little bottles on the drainboard
Picked up the first bottle, pulled the cork out of it
And poored it down the sink
That is, um, all except one little swallow - which I drank

I picked up the next bottle and I pulled the cork out of it
And poured it down the sink
All except one little swallow - which I drank

I picked up the next bottle and I pulled the sink out of it
And I poured it down the cork
All except one little swallow - which I drank

I picked up the next cork and I pulled the bottle out of it
And I poured it down the sink
All except one little drink - which I drank

I picked up the next sink and I pulled the cork out of it
And I poured it down the bottle
All except one little swallow - which I sank

I picked up the next drink and I pulled the swallow out of it
And I poured it down the sink
All except one little drink - I think

Well anyway by this time it's plain to see
That them little bottles of mine, let's see now
How many bottles have I got left - which I drank

Now I'm askin' you wasn't that a awful thing for my wife to make me do
Bless her little heart, bl-less her little heart, I'm tellin' ya one thing
You better not say nothin' against my wife buster
'Cause I'll have you know, I'll - have - you - know
That I've got da wifest little nice you ever saw in your [hicc]
Which I drank

Borrowed from Johnny Bond -10 Little Bottles
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/johnny-bond-ten-little-bottles-lyrics.html

>> I'll try that. I used to sing that song in a medley, so I never really
>> needed too many lyrics. I was thinking of maybe doing a rewrite so we
>> can all have a little fun at Uni's expense. I would start by changing
>> the title to "Uni, Uni"...
>>
>> But then of course he'd just change it to Turkey, Turkey...
>>
>> Not today dear, I have a headache!
>> Vic
>>
>> P.S.- One hundred forty one could write better than he
>> But Uni was looking for one forty three...
>> Eunuch - the 142nd fastest snipper- in the West

So you want me to win one for the Snipper, huh?


I HATE THAT GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT!

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>
That song is the worst piece of trash that has ever been written. If
ever there was a record that should have all of its copies melted down
and deleted from its pathteic existence that is it. I can just see
all the pathetic alcoholics getting absolutely blasted to that song
and thinking how funny it is. It's much more insidious than any drug
song, and it was written for morons. Get the damn thing out of here.

Jan Dean

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I HATE THAT GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT! wrote:

> That song is the worst piece of trash that has ever been written. If
> ever there was a record that should have all of its copies melted down
> and deleted from its pathteic existence that is it. I can just see
> all the pathetic alcoholics getting absolutely blasted to that song
> and thinking how funny it is. It's much more insidious than any drug
> song, and it was written for morons. Get the damn thing out of here.

Come on now!

Dominique is a pretty little song!

Are you anti-Catholic or do you just hate nuns?

I HATE THAT GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT!

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Jun 4, 2009, 11:48:36 PM6/4/09
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:27:31 -0400, Jan Dean <jan...@surfcity.com>
wrote:


I was referring to the song Ten Little Bottles. I have nothing
against the song Dominique.

Jan Dean

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Jun 6, 2009, 1:33:13 AM6/6/09
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Oh.

Turk 182

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Jun 9, 2009, 6:27:27 PM6/9/09
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> song, and it was written for morons.  Get the damn thing out of here.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I HATE THAT GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT! and Turk 182 were walking down the
prim rose lane one day when they came across a pile in the middle of
the road.

I HATE THAT GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT! said "That looks like dogshit. Do
you think it's dogshit, Turk?" Turk says, "It could be. See if it
feels like dogshit."

So I HATE THAT GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT! took a sample and kneaded it in
his hands. "Yep, it feels like dogshit," she says.

Turk 182 says, “We need to make sure. Why don't you taste it, so we
can have a better idea."

So I HATE THAT GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT! tastes it and says. "Ooh, it
tastes like dogshit!"

"Well, ok," says Turk 182. “That's real good to know. It is dogshit.
So let's just walk around it then..."

And the moral of this story, kids, is if something bothers you, always
throw a conniption fit, change your name and play holier than thou.
That is one of the best ways to let others know that you in truth and
in fact, though somewhat anonymously, eat shit.

Turk 182

Dean F.

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Jun 10, 2009, 1:49:06 AM6/10/09
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On Jun 9, 6:27 pm, Turk 182 <vic.ir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And the moral of this story, kids, is if something bothers you, always
> throw a conniption fit, change your name and play holier than thou.
> That is one of the best ways to let others know that you in truth and
> in fact, though somewhat anonymously, eat shit.

I never met-a-phor I didn't like!

> Turk 182

I'm one of perhaps 50 people in the United States who saw that film
theatrically in 1985.


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