Pop/Liverpool Pick of The Day - Gerry and The Pacemakers - Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying
Uni
with this song for the more mature audience. Written and sung by Gerry
Marsden, it's a beautiful piece of music, from 1964. Sadly, Capitol
Records, who once believed that pop "music" groups only existed in the
US, shot down Gerry and The Pacemakers songs, and they ended up on the
Laurie Records label.
Once again, a beautiful piece, well arranged and well sound engineered,
in Stereo!
Nice work, Gerry and crew!
Uni
Taliesyn
> Gerry & The Pacemakers followed The Beatles "yeah, yeah, yeah" tunes
> with this song for the more mature audience. Written and sung by Gerry
> Marsden, it's a beautiful piece of music, from 1964. Sadly, Capitol
> Records, who once believed that pop "music" groups only existed in the
> US, shot down Gerry and The Pacemakers songs, and they ended up on the
> Laurie Records label.
>
Capitol Records in the US made dreadful mistakes in the Sixties!!!
But in Canada, all Gerry & The Pacemakers recordings were on Capitol
Records of Canada.
As were ALL THE BEATLES RELEASES, right from the first single "Love Me
Do."
Come to think of it....
All the Dave Clark Five recordings were on Capitol (of Canada)!
Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas were on Capitol...
Freddie & The Dreamers were on Capitol....
The Hollies were on Capitol into 1967....
Manfred Mann were on Capitol into 1966....
The Swinging Blue Jeans were on Capitol....
Georgie Fame was on Capitol....
Cliff Richard was on Capitol....
The Yardbirds were on Capitol....
Chad & Jeremy were on Capitol....
Peter & Gordon were on Capitol....
First 3 Animals singles were on Capital....
First Hermits single was on Capitol....
Capitol of Canada didn't "drop the ball" in their end zone like their US
Capitol Records counterpart.
> Once again, a beautiful piece, well arranged and well sound engineered,
> in Stereo!
You'd be hard pressed to find Gerry & the Pacemakers greatest hits in
mono. All singles in '64 were, of course, in glorious mono. That was the
only version we knew and heard (on radio) unless we bought a stereo LP
and tossed it on one of those ancient groove destroying devices they had
the nerve to call "record players."
> Nice work, Gerry and crew!
>
Short-lived. They were more or less gone from view a year after this
release.
-Taliesyn
Dean F.
Uni
> Piece o' shit. Bleah!
IF Dean HATES IT, YOU KNOW IT MUST BE GOOD!!! :-)
Uni
>
>
Uni
> Piece o' shit. Bleah!
And keep in mind, Dean, I'm slowly building my Soul, Pop and C&W
collection, in fine sounding Stereo, soon to be played on station WUNI,
with a billion jigawatts of stereo power. One day, you'll fire up your
soul station show, if it isn't preempted by some local basement
Ping-Pong tournament, and you'll notice everyone is gone, and you'll say
"Where's the beef!?" :-)
Uni
>
>
Uni
> Uni wrote:
>
>> Gerry & The Pacemakers followed The Beatles "yeah, yeah, yeah" tunes
>> with this song for the more mature audience. Written and sung by Gerry
>> Marsden, it's a beautiful piece of music, from 1964. Sadly, Capitol
>> Records, who once believed that pop "music" groups only existed in the
>> US, shot down Gerry and The Pacemakers songs, and they ended up on the
>> Laurie Records label.
>>
>
> Capitol Records in the US made dreadful mistakes in the Sixties!!!
>
> But in Canada, all Gerry & The Pacemakers recordings were on Capitol
> Records of Canada.
>
> As were ALL THE BEATLES RELEASES, right from the first single "Love Me
> Do."
That's why are medical insurance cost is so high, in the US! Yeah,
people were dropping like flies, waiting impatiently for Capitol to
release The Beatles! :-)
Come to think of it, who ate Vee-Jay and Swan Records?
>
> Come to think of it....
>
> All the Dave Clark Five recordings were on Capitol (of Canada)!
>
> Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas were on Capitol...
>
> Freddie & The Dreamers were on Capitol....
>
> The Hollies were on Capitol into 1967....
>
> Manfred Mann were on Capitol into 1966....
>
> The Swinging Blue Jeans were on Capitol....
>
> Georgie Fame was on Capitol....
>
> Cliff Richard was on Capitol....
>
> The Yardbirds were on Capitol....
>
> Chad & Jeremy were on Capitol....
>
> Peter & Gordon were on Capitol....
>
> First 3 Animals singles were on Capital....
>
> First Hermits single was on Capitol....
>
>
> Capitol of Canada didn't "drop the ball" in their end zone like their US
> Capitol Records counterpart.
>
>> Once again, a beautiful piece, well arranged and well sound
>> engineered, in Stereo!
>
>
> You'd be hard pressed to find Gerry & the Pacemakers greatest hits in
> mono. All singles in '64 were, of course, in glorious mono.
Yeah, but only recently has it been remastered.
That was the
> only version we knew and heard (on radio) unless we bought a stereo LP
> and tossed it on one of those ancient groove destroying devices they had
> the nerve to call "record players."
>
>> Nice work, Gerry and crew!
>>
>
> Short-lived. They were more or less gone from view a year after this
> release.
You mean like The Five Americans!!?? :-)
Uni
>
> -Taliesyn
Taliesyn
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Nice work, Gerry and crew!
>>>
>>
>> Short-lived. They were more or less gone from view a year after this
>> release.
>
>
> You mean like The Five Americans!!?? :-)
>
Their lifespans in the pop world ran about the same length and were of
roughly the same "importance". A quick check of the number of songs each
artist placed on my mp3 player reveals 8 for Gerry and 11 for the
Americans. That may sound close but I'd rather hear at least 9 of the
Five Americans songs before any of Pacemakers.
-Taliesyn
Uni
Personally, I enjoy both groups. However, Gerry & The Pacemakers had
more hits, in the UK, as well as the US, such as:
"How Do You Do It"
"I Like It"
"Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying"
"Ferry Cross the Mersey"
Uni
>
> -Taliesyn
H
>
> Personally, I enjoy both groups. However, Gerry & The Pacemakers had
> more hits, in the UK, as well as the US, such as:
> "How Do You Do It"
> "I Like It"
> "Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying"
> "Ferry Cross the Mersey"
>
> Uni
Also "I'm the one" UK #2
"I'll be there" UK #15
and perhaps their greatest, still played & sung every week
at Liverpool FC, and their third sucessive #1 -
"You'll never walk alone"
> >
> > -Taliesyn
>
Taliesyn
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>>>> Nice work, Gerry and crew!
>>>>
>>>> Short-lived. They were more or less gone from view a year after this
>>>> release.
>>>
>>> You mean like The Five Americans!!?? :-)
>>
>> Their lifespans in the pop world ran about the same length and were of
>> roughly the same "importance". A quick check of the number of songs
>> each artist placed on my mp3 player reveals 8 for Gerry and 11 for the
>> Americans. That may sound close but I'd rather hear at least 9 of the
>> Five Americans songs before any of Pacemakers.
>
> Personally, I enjoy both groups. However, Gerry & The Pacemakers had
> more hits, in the UK, as well as the US, such as:
> "How Do You Do It"
> "I Like It"
The above two may or may not have been timely when they charted in the
UK in early '63. But a year later, when they were played in North
America, they were already "out of date" and totally silly. And today
they sound absolutely dreadful. I refuse to even put them on my mp3
player. It doesn't matter which format you play them - mono, stereo, or
ultra-quad... they're dreadful!!!!
-Taliesyn
Uni
> Uni wrote:
>
>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>
>>> Uni wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Nice work, Gerry and crew!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Short-lived. They were more or less gone from view a year after
>>>>> this release.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You mean like The Five Americans!!?? :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Their lifespans in the pop world ran about the same length and were of
>>> roughly the same "importance". A quick check of the number of songs
>>> each artist placed on my mp3 player reveals 8 for Gerry and 11 for the
>>> Americans. That may sound close but I'd rather hear at least 9 of the
>>> Five Americans songs before any of Pacemakers.
>>
>>
>> Personally, I enjoy both groups. However, Gerry & The Pacemakers had
>> more hits, in the UK, as well as the US, such as:
>
>
>> "How Do You Do It"
>> "I Like It"
>
>
> The above two may or may not have been timely when they charted in the
> UK in early '63. But a year later, when they were played in North
> America, they were already "out of date" and totally silly. And today
> they sound absolutely dreadful. I refuse to even put them on my mp3
> player.
But, T', you just said you have 8 Gerry songs on your MP3 player.
It doesn't matter which format you play them - mono, stereo, or
> ultra-quad... they're dreadful!!!!
But, T', there's lots of Gerry's CDs on the market. They can't be that
bad. Wait, there's one less. Yeah, they one I just purchased :-)
Uni
Taliesyn
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uni wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice work, Gerry and crew!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Short-lived. They were more or less gone from view a year after
>>>>>> this release.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean like The Five Americans!!?? :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Their lifespans in the pop world ran about the same length and were of
>>>> roughly the same "importance". A quick check of the number of songs
>>>> each artist placed on my mp3 player reveals 8 for Gerry and 11 for the
>>>> Americans. That may sound close but I'd rather hear at least 9 of the
>>>> Five Americans songs before any of Pacemakers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally, I enjoy both groups. However, Gerry & The Pacemakers had
>>> more hits, in the UK, as well as the US, such as:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "How Do You Do It"
>>> "I Like It"
>>
>>
>>
>> The above two may or may not have been timely when they charted in the
>> UK in early '63. But a year later, when they were played in North
>> America, they were already "out of date" and totally silly. And today
>> they sound absolutely dreadful. I refuse to even put them on my mp3
>> player.
>
>
>
> But, T', you just said you have 8 Gerry songs on your MP3 player.
Did you fully read what I wrote. I said I refuse those 2.
>
> It doesn't matter which format you play them - mono, stereo, or
>
>> ultra-quad... they're dreadful!!!!
>
>
> But, T', there's lots of Gerry's CDs on the market. They can't be that
> bad. Wait, there's one less. Yeah, they one I just purchased :-)
>
Are you following me at all? I pointed to two specific tracks, not the
entire G&P collection.
-Taliesyn
Uni
> Uni wrote:
>
>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>>
>>>> "How Do You Do It"
>>>> "I Like It"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The above two may or may not have been timely when they charted in the
>>> UK in early '63. But a year later, when they were played in North
>>> America, they were already "out of date" and totally silly. And today
>>> they sound absolutely dreadful. I refuse to even put them on my mp3
>>> player.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> But, T', you just said you have 8 Gerry songs on your MP3 player.
>
>
> Did you fully read what I wrote. I said I refuse those 2.
Okay, my bad. But what is so bad about "How Do You Do It"? It's no
different than a Beatles tune. Actually, it's one of my favorites!
Uni
Uni
Cool! Thanks for the information! We here in the USA are typically
isolated from the great tunes of the UK, because Billboard and others
refuse to chart those.
Uni
>
>
>>>-Taliesyn
>>
>
>
Taliesyn
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "How Do You Do It"
>>>>> "I Like It"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The above two may or may not have been timely when they charted in the
>>>> UK in early '63. But a year later, when they were played in North
>>>> America, they were already "out of date" and totally silly. And today
>>>> they sound absolutely dreadful. I refuse to even put them on my mp3
>>>> player.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But, T', you just said you have 8 Gerry songs on your MP3 player.
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you fully read what I wrote. I said I refuse those 2.
>
>
> Okay, my bad. But what is so bad about "How Do You Do It"? It's no
> different than a Beatles tune. Actually, it's one of my favorites!
>
> Uni
>
The Beatles were given the tune to record as their first single. They
hated it and intentionally kept messing up the takes until George Martin
allowed them to record "Love Me Do" instead. The song was then recorded
by the Pacemakers instead.
If it's not good enough for the Beatles, can I be that wrong? . .
-Taliesyn
Taliesyn
Not a case of Billboard refusing to chart. They don't "invent" hits for
amusement. They were merely a reflection, a census of what was popular
(radio play) and what and selling in stores. The Cash Box charts were
based strictly on singles sales.
-Taliesyn
Brett A. Pasternack
> The Beatles were given the tune to record as their first single. They
> hated it and intentionally kept messing up the takes until George Martin
> allowed them to record "Love Me Do" instead. The song was then recorded
> by the Pacemakers instead.
Actually, Martin disagrees with that assessment. "They never shirked
their jobs. They didn't really want to do it, but in the end they did
quite a good job....I looked really hard at 'How Do You Do It', but in
the end I went with 'Love Me Do'. It was quite a good record." (Quote
from Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Recording Sessions, p. 18)
I don't think, when I hear it, that they were intentionally screwing up
anything, either. It's not a great song, but it's not bad, and they do
it pretty well. The Gerry & The Pacemakers version is very much copied
from theirs.
Uni
There you go, T'. Let's load that song on your MP3 player :-)
Uni
Taliesyn
Thanks, but I have to make room for more "important" songs by The
Chessmen, Tom Northcott, Eden Kane, Dave Berry and groups like that. . .
-Taliesyn
Uni
True, whoever thay are!!! :-)
Uni
>
> -Taliesyn