I'm STILL laughing.......
EvilRevReturns
group-I just finished downloading it (its playing as I type this)
The subject header says it all......
Rev Rockabilly
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WayBackJack
<agen...@msn.com> wrote:
>Pat Boone's version of "Good Rockin' Tonight" was posted on a binaries
>group-I just finished downloading it (its playing as I type this)
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>The subject header says it all......
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>Rev Rockabilly
>Not Really Amused, WI
Perhaps you should play "Everyone's Laughing" by the Spaniels so you
won't be the only one laughing.
Roger Ford
<agen...@msn.com> wrote:
>Pat Boone's version of "Good Rockin' Tonight" was posted on a binaries
>group-I just finished downloading it (its playing as I type this)
This pales into insignificance alongside Boone's version of "The Fat
Man"
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ansermetniac
Everybody's version of A Pretty Girl is Like a Melody pales compared
to Pat Boone's version
Judge an artist by his best work, not his worst. Remember, as well as
writing Swan Lake and the Pathetique, Tchaikovsky wrote Hamlet and
Francesca da Rimini
Abbedd
EvilRevResponds
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> Judge an artist by his best work, not his worst.
>
> Abbedd
IMHO, Pat's best work is lukewarm pop-some here champion Pat as a
successful rock & roll artist. I am not one of those people-to consider
Pat a rocker in the same vein as Elvis, Buddy, Jerry Lee, Carl, or
numerous others insults those artists greatly (as well as offends my
sensibilities)
Rev Rockabilly
This Is Not Friendly Persuasion, WI
ansermetniac
<agen...@msn.com> wrote:
>some here champion Pat as a
>successful rock & roll artist.
Ridiculous. Pat is solely a pop singer. A very good one. If it was
not for the bigoted times of the 50s he would not even dreamed of
making rock records. Throw away his covers and listen to his great
pop records. The ballads especially
Sinatra would have sucked covering the records Pat did too. Pat
destroys Sinatra when singing Berlin ballads.
Abbedd
Grammarian
Did Sinatra ever cover any RnR/RnB songs in the 50s? I know later on
he tried to do material that didn't fit him. He did Bad Bad Leroy
Brown in the 70s.
DianeE
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:10:45 +0000 (UTC), "EvilRevResponds"
> <agen...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >some here champion Pat as a
> >successful rock & roll artist.
>
> Ridiculous. Pat is solely a pop singer. A very good one. If it was
> not for the bigoted times of the 50s he would not even dreamed of
> making rock records. Throw away his covers and listen to his great
> pop records. The ballads especially
Oh, for Heaven's sakes. He didn't even sing as well as Julius La Rosa. The
only cool thing about Pat Boone is that in an almost 50-year career he's
managed to sing, say, or do something to offend just about everybody.
DianeE
Scarlotti
I beg to differ. Pat Boone made r'n'r records. Pat Boone had HITS
with his r'n'r records. Therefore, Pat Boone is (insofar as his r'n'r
hits are concerned) a r'n'r artist.
(And a highly significant r'n'r artist at that, as his pop-influenced
approach to r'n'r helped make the new genre palatable to many
Americans who might not otherwise accepted it.)
True, Pat's best songs are his pop ballads. True, Pat Boone is first
and foremost a pop (and later, Inspirational/Religious) artist. But
in the 1950s, he was also a pioneer r'n'r artist, and deserves to be
recognized as such (as well as being one of the century's most
successful pop singers).
How does he stack up against Sinatra (IMO)? In the list of my 20
All-Time Favorite Male Vocalists, Sinatra holds the #10 spot and Pat
the #12. Pretty d__n close!
SavoyBG
>Did Sinatra ever cover any RnR/RnB songs in the 50s?
He did a version of "The Hucklebuck."
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Scarlotti
> IMHO, Pat's best work is lukewarm pop-some here champion Pat as a
> successful rock & roll artist.
Apparently "some here" are not the only ones who believe so. Here's
what ARTIST DIRECT says:
"In the years immediately prior to the British Invasion, only one
performer rivaled the chart dominance of Elvis Presley, and that was
Pat Boone. With his trademark white buck shoes, perfectly combed hair
and gleaming smile, Boone was the very essence of wholesome American
values, and at a time when the rise of rock & roll was viewed as a
sign of the apocalypse, HE MADE THE MUSIC APPEAR safe and
non-threatening, earning some 38 Top 40 hits in the process. It's
fitting that his achievements rank closest to those of Presley; after
all, BOTH CLAIMED THE SOUND OF THE BLACK R&B CULTURE FOR THEIR OWN, in
the process straddling both sides of the color line and popularizing a
form of music which otherwise might never have gained widespread
acceptance. Of course, while Elvis -- with his flashy suits, swiveling
hips and suggestive leer -- remained persona non grata throughout many
corners of mainstream America, Boone was embraced by teens and parents
alike; his music polished rock's rough edges away, making songs like
'Tutti Frutti' and 'Ain't That a Shame' palatable to white audiences
raised on the soothing pop traditions of a vanishing era."
Caps added for emphasis. (I've posted this quote before, by the good
Reverend R.A. Billy appears to have missed it.)
> I am not one of those people-to consider
> Pat a rocker in the same vein as Elvis, Buddy, Jerry Lee, Carl, or
> numerous others insults those artists greatly (as well as offends my
> sensibilities)
Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis and Buddy Holly were not anywhere near
as successful as Pat Boone. Why should they be "insulted" to be
considered in his ranks? On the contrary, they'd probably be thrilled
to know that their once obscure records now sell as many copies as Pat
Boone's hits (assuming that they actually do sell as many).
And for the record: Elvis has the #8 spot on my list of top 20
all-time favorite male vocalists. Pat Boone has the #12 spotf. Carl,
Jerry and Bud aren't even in the running.
Bro Jack
(Scarlotti) wrote:
> and that was
>Pat Boone. With his trademark white buck shoes,
[...]
> Of course, while Elvis -- with his flashy suits,
He wore white bucks too.
Jack
Rev Rockabilly
country songs (& I love his country covers)...few would call him a
country singer
I don't care what the charts of the time say (as they were far more
susceptible to manipulation in those days), Boone was an industry
darling...the influence on future performers by Boone is practically
non-existent, especially when compared to Elvis, Jerry Lee, Perkins (the
Beatles recorded 5 Perkins songs-how many Boone covers did they do ???
how many Boone covers did the Stones do ??), Vincent, Cochran, Berry,
Diddley, Domino, Richard (am I getting the point across ??). If you
want to tell yourself that Boone was a rocker, keep deluding
yourself....most people know better
The ORIGINAL "Certified Rock & Roll Archaeologist"...accept no
substitutes
http://community.webtv.net/RevIsBack/RevRockabilly
Scarlotti
> Dean Martin covered (or remade-I really 'don't get" this argument) many
> country songs (& I love his country covers)...few would call him a
> country singer
Dean didn't come along at the _beginning_ of the country industry.
Pat Boone was a r'n'r _pioneer_. He hit the charts _before_ Elvis
did.
When Pat started singing r'n'r, the genre was still being defined.
However pop-influenced Pat's style may have been (and I hear a lot of
country in many of his songs) it was considered -- more importantly,
it was _defining_ -- r'n'r at the time.
> I don't care what the charts of the time say (as they were far more
> susceptible to manipulation in those days), Boone was an industry
> darling...the influence on future performers by Boone is practically
> non-existent, especially when compared to Elvis, Jerry Lee, Perkins (the
> Beatles recorded 5 Perkins songs-how many Boone covers did they do ???
> how many Boone covers did the Stones do ??), Vincent, Cochran, Berry,
> Diddley, Domino, Richard (am I getting the point across ??). If you
> want to tell yourself that Boone was a rocker, keep deluding
> yourself....most people know better
It's a shame that you "don't care" what the charts say (or how people
of the r'n'r era thought, or how an artist was promoted, or what large
scale effects he had on the budding r'n'r industry...). But then
again, you're not a historian, but an archaeologist (one who engages
in "the study of material remains, such as graves, tools, and pottery,
from past human life and culture").
Perhaps, as your goal is to examine relics (long vanished beneath the
sands of their post-15 minutes' time), your narrow focal point may be
well-suited to your purposes.
And as to Pat's influence on rockers today, r'n'r might well have died
out in its infancy had its only early purveyors been the likes of Carl
Perkins, Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, et
al.
Rev Rockabilly
out in its infancy had its only early purveyors been the likes of Carl
Perkins, Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, et al.
Considering the influence that the above named performers had (& still
do in some cases), this statement is as laughable as the cover version
that caused me to start this thread...I would claim that if Pat was the
major purveyor of rock & roll (next to Elvis, of course), your statement
might have some validity