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chris m

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May 18, 2002, 2:50:10 PM5/18/02
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Question for the musical out there. What are the easiest REM songs to strum
along to for a complete newby on guitar? Something which doesn't involve
quick changes?!?

Thanks,

Chris


Bageeno Hormonis

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May 18, 2002, 3:04:41 PM5/18/02
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1. You Are the Everything is a cinch - only three chords, although it
doesn't sound quite right on guitar.
2. Country Feedback is pretty easy - all neck chords - and it sounds
fantastic.
3. Let Me In isn't bad when you're ready to tackle B minor :)
4. Find the River is pretty easy.
5. Swan Swan H is easy (although there's a B minor in the bridge)
6. The riff in the verse to "Be Mine" is pretty easy and guaranteed to
impreses your friends. The chorus is a lot harder.

Those are the first songs I learned, anyway. Personally I'd recommend
Country Feedback as anyone's first song. (Which works out well since JMS
said for years that it was the best thing he ever wrote).

Bageeno


Jeff Raymond

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May 18, 2002, 7:26:43 PM5/18/02
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Bageeno Hormonis wrote:

> Those are the first songs I learned, anyway. Personally I'd recommend
> Country Feedback as anyone's first song. (Which works out well since JMS
> said for years that it was the best thing he ever wrote).

"Man on the Moon" isn't entirely difficult. "Find the River" is actually a
pretty good way to learn variations on D.

is it http://bubblegum.uark.edu/rem for the chord archive?

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jankey

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May 18, 2002, 9:23:23 PM5/18/02
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why not smile. easy chords, easy picking pattern, and you can play along with the
record and feel you've accomplished something. :) and --- um--- damn, having a
brain fart, hang on.... strange currencies. another easy one. (both have
barre/partial barre chords, but the changes aren't fast and it's good practise. :)
oh--has fall on me been mentioned? a good strumming song. learning REM songs will
teach you barred F chords, if nothing else. :)

(after that do street spirit by radiohead--it's more fun.)

Jeff Raymond wrote:

> Bageeno Hormonis wrote:
>

athol brose

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May 18, 2002, 10:43:09 PM5/18/02
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>
>Question for the musical out there. What are the easiest REM songs to strum
>along to for a complete newby on guitar? Something which doesn't involve
>quick changes?!?

i'm no guitar player (in fact, the only song i can really truly play on guitar
is silent night), but the one i love is the only r.e.m. song i've ever been
able to play on guitar; and i only picked that up while trying to play oasis'
"morning glory"


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Backup Chump

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May 18, 2002, 10:57:33 PM5/18/02
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I started with Find the River, its pretty easy and was very impressed
with myself when I eventually got it right!

Most of the 4-chord songs are best to play around with as well, like
country feedback or Imitation of Life (which has easy chord changes in
the verses for the beginner, Em Am G D)

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Bageeno Hormonis

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"Backup Chump" <koho...@webmail.co.za> wrote in message
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> Most of the 4-chord songs are best to play around with as well, like
> country feedback or Imitation of Life (which has easy chord changes in
> the verses for the beginner, Em Am G D)

And if you can play Imitation of Life, you can play Driver 8 :)

Country Feedback technically has 5 chords since the pattern is
Em-G-D-C-G-D-C7. What makes it really easy is that there is no chorus, or
bridge, or anything.. it just goes on, and on, on a maddening loop :)

Bageeno

Chris Piuma, etc.

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May 18, 2002, 11:25:42 PM5/18/02
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"Bageeno Hormonis" <youareonthewa...@youhavenochancetosurvivemakeyourtime.com> wrote in message news:<dBxF8.285$tM.10...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>...

> Those are the first songs I learned, anyway. Personally I'd recommend
> Country Feedback as anyone's first song. (Which works out well since JMS
> said for years that it was the best thing he ever wrote).

Yes, and the chords are pretty easy and sound nice, so that is good.
But unless you're Stipe, you probably can't pull off the vocals.

Which, you know, isn't the issue here, of course. Still, it's a very
difficult song to pull off, vocals-wise.

Perhaps not the easiest song, but one worth figuring out, is Driver 8.
Also, It's The End Of The World... is not too tricky (once you get
used to the Bb) and is always a big hit.

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Hank

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May 19, 2002, 5:32:56 AM5/19/02
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On Sat, 18 May 2002 21:23:23 -0400, jankey <jan...@erols.com> looked
up from the sandbox, yelled "I guess I just wasn't made for these
times" then typed :

>(after that do street spirit by radiohead--it's more fun.)

A rare glimpse of the words 'Radiohead' and 'fun' in the same sentence
without the word 'not' also being present .... :-)

_______

Hank

****

'Ready everyone??? Mambo!'

Youssef Khalifa

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I was wondering if you would comment on that sentence :-)

Youssef
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Hank

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On Sun, 19 May 2002 15:37:43 +0100, "Youssef Khalifa"
<ginsoa...@esatclear.ie> looked up from the sandbox, yelled "I

guess I just wasn't made for these times" then typed :

>
>"Hank" <henry...@NOODLEZAPPERvirgin.net> wrote in message
>news:c8seeugpn0juvkf2d...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 18 May 2002 21:23:23 -0400, jankey <jan...@erols.com> looked
>> up from the sandbox, yelled "I guess I just wasn't made for these
>> times" then typed :
>>
>> >(after that do street spirit by radiohead--it's more fun.)
>>
>> A rare glimpse of the words 'Radiohead' and 'fun' in the same sentence
>> without the word 'not' also being present .... :-)
>>
>> _______
>>
>> Hank
>>
>> ****
>>
>> 'Ready everyone??? Mambo!'
>
>
>I was wondering if you would comment on that sentence :-)
>
>Youssef

I'm nothing if not boringly predictable :-)

Bageeno Hormonis

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May 19, 2002, 12:51:37 PM5/19/02
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"Chris Piuma, etc." <pi...@flim.com> wrote in message
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> > Those are the first songs I learned, anyway. Personally I'd recommend
> > Country Feedback as anyone's first song. (Which works out well since
JMS
> > said for years that it was the best thing he ever wrote).
>
> Yes, and the chords are pretty easy and sound nice, so that is good.
> But unless you're Stipe, you probably can't pull off the vocals.
> Which, you know, isn't the issue here, of course. Still, it's a very
> difficult song to pull off, vocals-wise.

I really don't think the vocals are all that hard. Until the "crazy what
you could have been" section, they're all clustered within a pretty narrow
range; and even then, it's not exactly "Tiptoe Through the Tulips." (Or,
for that matter, "Morning Bell". Now there's a song I can't sing without
giving myself a brain hemmorhage.) Or did you mean that it's hard to sound
*good* singing it? I don't even worry about that, since I never do :)

> Perhaps not the easiest song, but one worth figuring out, is Driver 8.
> Also, It's The End Of The World... is not too tricky (once you get
> used to the Bb) and is always a big hit.

I've been playing guitar for 5 years and Bb still kicks my ass. Probably my
least favorite chord.

Bageeno


Andrew Palka

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May 19, 2002, 2:06:53 PM5/19/02
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>I've been playing guitar for 5 years and Bb still kicks my ass. Probably
my
>least favorite chord.

I'm glad to hear someone else say that. I hate Bb in the double barre 1st
position. In fact, I have trouble with the double barre chord in general. It
still hurts and strains my arm to play any double barre progression
repeatedly, even after years of practice. I arm just doesn't want to do it.

Also, when I double barre, I can never get the high 6th string to sound .
When I use my third finger to barre the 4th, 3rd and 2nd strings, I always
manage to deaden the 1st string so it will not sound. My 3rd finger will not
bend enough to allow the damn string to sound. It's gotta be a genetic thing
as I've watched other players do it with no problem .

Playing the E bar equivalent chord for a double barre chord such as 4th
position E bar for Bb for example, never sounds quite right if the song
actually uses the double bar chord.

Any other guitar players out there have the same or a similar chording
problem?

Andrew
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Andrew Palka

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May 19, 2002, 2:11:40 PM5/19/02
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> A rare glimpse of the words 'Radiohead' and 'fun' in the same sentence
> without the word 'not' also being present .... :-)

Also a rare glimpse at Hank writing the word 'Radiohead' without the word
'sodding' in front of it..........;-)

Andrew
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danny

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"Andrew Palka" <asmu...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> >I've been playing guitar for 5 years and Bb still kicks my ass. Probably
> my
> >least favorite chord.
>
> I'm glad to hear someone else say that. I hate Bb in the double barre 1st
> position. In fact, I have trouble with the double barre chord in general.
It
> still hurts and strains my arm to play any double barre progression
> repeatedly, even after years of practice. I arm just doesn't want to do
it.
>
> Also, when I double barre, I can never get the high 6th string to sound .
> When I use my third finger to barre the 4th, 3rd and 2nd strings, I always
> manage to deaden the 1st string so it will not sound. My 3rd finger will
not
> bend enough to allow the damn string to sound. It's gotta be a genetic
thing
> as I've watched other players do it with no problem .
>
> Playing the E bar equivalent chord for a double barre chord such as 4th
> position E bar for Bb for example, never sounds quite right if the song
> actually uses the double bar chord.
>
> Any other guitar players out there have the same or a similar chording
> problem?

me! i've partly solved it by taking the low e off and just using 5
strings - it still works for pretty much everything i play anyway. least
favourite chord? Bm, particularly when changing between it and an open D -
i never get the muting quite right.

as for the easiest rem song to start with, i'd go with "imitation of life" -
it's all open chords.

danny


Youssef Khalifa

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"Andrew Palka" <asmu...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > A rare glimpse of the words 'Radiohead' and 'fun' in the same sentence
> > without the word 'not' also being present .... :-)
>
> Also a rare glimpse at Hank writing the word 'Radiohead' without the word
> 'sodding' in front of it..........;-)
>
> Andrew
> *************************************************************
> "We're always trying to be better songwriters. I think we're doing
OK."-Mike
> Mills
>
>

Also true,although im sure any of a number of four letter words with
the suffix '-ing' would be applicable eg. ****ing Radiohead :-)

Andrew Palka

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May 19, 2002, 7:20:51 PM5/19/02
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>> > A rare glimpse of the words 'Radiohead' and 'fun' in the same sentence
>> > without the word 'not' also being present .... :-)

>> Also a rare glimpse at Hank writing the word 'Radiohead' without the word
>> 'sodding' in front of it..........;-)

>Also true,although im sure any of a number of four letter words with


>the suffix '-ing' would be applicable eg. ****ing Radiohead :-)

LOL. You're right of course. Hank is a creative guy, so ****ing does give
him more possible choices. I picked sodding because it's my personal
favorite.....:-)

Andrew
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Andrew Palka

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>least
>favorite chord? Bm, particularly when changing between it and an open D -
>I never get the muting quite right.

I know. Bm and the switch from Bm to D also took me awhile to get
comfortable with. . My breakthrough was when I realized I could play a Bm
barred and it was actually a little easier (for me) than the traditional way
using only the DGBE strings. I still prefer to play it barred. It doesn't
prevent me easy access from Bm to D.

Anyway. I feel your pain....

Andrew
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Mills


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danny

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"Andrew Palka" <asmu...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> >least
> >favorite chord? Bm, particularly when changing between it and an open
D -
> >I never get the muting quite right.
>
> I know. Bm and the switch from Bm to D also took me awhile to get
> comfortable with. . My breakthrough was when I realized I could play a
Bm
> barred and it was actually a little easier (for me) than the traditional
way
> using only the DGBE strings. I still prefer to play it barred. It doesn't
> prevent me easy access from Bm to D.

oh god, i always play the thing barred, but that usually ends up with me
sounding one of the strings when i change from it (which was the main reason
i removed the low E string - i alsmost always muted it while playing anyway,
so not actually having it there freed me up a bit and it doesn't affect the
sound too much...) actually one thing i have found quite helpful is
starting to play up the fret - playing Bm (VII) makes lots of things easier,
providing you can playing everything else up the fret too...

Chris Piuma, etc.

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> > Still, it's a very
> > difficult song to pull off, vocals-wise.
> I really don't think the vocals are all that hard. Until the "crazy what
> you could have been" section, they're all clustered within a pretty narrow
> range; and even then, it's not exactly "Tiptoe Through the Tulips." (Or,
> for that matter, "Morning Bell". Now there's a song I can't sing without
> giving myself a brain hemmorhage.) Or did you mean that it's hard to sound
> *good* singing it? I don't even worry about that, since I never do :)

Well, yes. I meant pulling the song off -- making it work, causing an
emotional reaction in the listener. The lyrics and melody are both
good, but the strength of the song comes from the way Stipe phrases
the words and the melody. You need a strong, powerful voice to do that
song. The covers I've heard of Country Feedback have indicated that
pretty clearly.

> I've been playing guitar for 5 years and Bb still kicks my ass. Probably my
> least favorite chord.

Hm. OK, I'm strange: I play guitar without the high E string, so Bb
isn't too tricky.

But surely Fmaj7 is a worse chord.

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Bageeno Hormonis

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> Well, yes. I meant pulling the song off -- making it work, causing an
> emotional reaction in the listener. The lyrics and melody are both
> good, but the strength of the song comes from the way Stipe phrases
> the words and the melody. You need a strong, powerful voice to do that
> song. The covers I've heard of Country Feedback have indicated that
> pretty clearly.

I guess experiences vary - I've been told that it's the only R.E.M. song I
*can* pull off (except maybe my very, very peculiar rendition of SF,SN). I
was playing it one day and my roommate rushed in and said, "Dude, that's the
best thing you've ever written! That's like radio worthy!" Stupid
roommate.

> Hm. OK, I'm strange: I play guitar without the high E string, so Bb
> isn't too tricky.

Huh, you and danny should start a band called "Screw the E Strings". Hey,
there have been even more ill-conceived projects :)

Oh, I meant to ask you - what was that link to the stuff you've recorded,
again? I finally broke down and downloaded Real, and after weeks of
repeatedly beating it into submission, it finally allows Winamp to play my
MP3s again.

Bageeno


Chris Piuma, etc.

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"Bageeno Hormonis" <youareonthewa...@youhavenochancetosurvivemakeyourtime.com> wrote in message news:<TvbG8.83$Je5.7...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...

> Oh, I meant to ask you - what was that link to the stuff you've recorded,
> again? I finally broke down and downloaded Real, and after weeks of
> repeatedly beating it into submission, it finally allows Winamp to play my
> MP3s again.

Ah, good.

It's at: http://www.flim.com/covers/

And if you like what you hear, you might want to swing by: http://www.sadpenguin.com

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Hank

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>
>>>> > A rare glimpse of the words 'Radiohead' and 'fun' in the same
>>>> > sentence without the word 'not' also being present .... :-)
>>
>>>> Also a rare glimpse at Hank writing the word 'Radiohead' without
>>>> the word 'sodding' in front of it..........;-)
>>
>>>Also true,although im sure any of a number of four letter words
>>>with the suffix '-ing' would be applicable eg. ****ing Radiohead
>>>:-)
>>
>> LOL. You're right of course. Hank is a creative guy, so ****ing
>> does give him more possible choices. I picked sodding because it's
>> my personal favorite.....:-)
>

>I was always a fan of the Ruduuhuud spelling. Looks like a wink is
>required in this thread. ;-)

LOL! I was always quite pleased with myself having thought of
Ruduhuud. Has a certain ring to it. It seems somehow less offensive
to refer to Thom and his merry pranksters thus rather than 'Those
pompous bombastic arseholes' (spelt the British way as i know that
Andrew prides himself on his winning way with Brit slang! )

danny

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> > Hm. OK, I'm strange: I play guitar without the high E string, so Bb
> > isn't too tricky.
>
> Huh, you and danny should start a band called "Screw the E Strings". Hey,
> there have been even more ill-conceived projects :)

actually me and my recording partner have just (within the last hour)
finished a cover version of "i will survive"... lots of wah-wah - great fun
to play, if not to listen to...

danny


jankey

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May 20, 2002, 9:21:31 PM5/20/02
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?? y'all don't just barre with the index finger and stop the other strings with
the tips of your other three fingers? (or is that just the way my
average-sized-female-with-average-sized-female-hands guitar teacher taught me
(another average-sized-female-with-average-sized-female-hands)?) or am i
thinking of the wrong Bb? (my Big Book of Guitar Chords has, like, 8
variations on the damn thing. >:( (actually now that i think of it, she
double barred it too sometimes--but she was double jointed. :)

i can't remember what it was, but i was looking up some F chord i'd forgotten
and the BBoGC had something with a (high) 5 fret stretch. oh yeah right. ha.
dave matthews (pete townshend, peter buck, jimi hendrix, other people with
fingers out to *there*) i ain't.

Andrew Palka

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>?? y'all don't just barre with the index finger and stop the other strings
with
>the tips of your other three fingers? (or is that just the way my
>average-sized-female-with-average-sized-female-hands guitar teacher taught
>me
>(another average-sized-female-with-average-sized-female-hands)?)

The fingering that you are referring to is also an acceptable way to do it.
The double barre is merely a moveable A chord, just as the more popular
barre chord is a moveable E chord.

So, when you do an A barre the way you mentioned, you are forming the
barre with your index finger and forming the actual A chord in front of the
barre with your middle finger, ring finger, and pinky. Which is exactly how
you form an open A chord except there, you use the index, middle, and ring
finger to hold the D,G, and B strings.

The other method of doing it, which was the way I described, is to use your
index finger for the barre, and your ring finger to cover all three strings
that make up the actual A chord (D,G, and B). It's just two ways of doing
the same thing. My problem is...I can not position my ring finger in a way
that allows the high E string to ring. It always stays deadened.

I've tried forming it the way you describe and my middle, ring, and pinky
fingers are just too big to all fit together properly except on the first
three frets or so. After that, they bunch up too much to properly sound the
chord. Must be that genetics thing again.

Andrew
*************************************************************
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Andrew Palka

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> LOL! I was always quite pleased with myself having thought of
> Ruduhuud. Has a certain ring to it. It seems somehow less offensive
> to refer to Thom and his merry pranksters thus rather than 'Those
> pompous bombastic arseholes' (spelt the British way as i know that
> Andrew prides himself on his winning way with Brit slang! )

Absobloodylutely!...:-)

Andrew


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Hank

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On Tue, 21 May 2002 03:01:38 GMT, "Andrew Palka"
<asmu...@columbus.rr.com> looked up from the sandbox, whistled "It's
a jolly holiday with Mary!" then typed :

>> LOL! I was always quite pleased with myself having thought of
>> Ruduhuud. Has a certain ring to it. It seems somehow less offensive
>> to refer to Thom and his merry pranksters thus rather than 'Those
>> pompous bombastic arseholes' (spelt the British way as i know that
>> Andrew prides himself on his winning way with Brit slang! )
>
>Absobloodylutely!...:-)

Cor Blimey Andrew - that was absolutely uncanny! If I'd closed my
eyes at that point, I would have sworn that Dick van Dyke himself was
standing right next to me... :)

Hank

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On Tue, 21 May 2002 02:18:40 GMT, "Andrew Palka"
<asmu...@columbus.rr.com> looked up from the sandbox, yelled "I

guess I just wasn't made for these times" then typed :

>>?? y'all don't just barre with the index finger and stop the other strings


>with
>>the tips of your other three fingers?

<snipped>

There are only two civilised ways to play Bb
Capo on first fret/hold down an A chord
Capo on third fret/hold down a G chord
Any other way is just plain barbaric.

If I absolutely *had* to play, it would have to be a barre chord on
the 6th fret. To play it barred on the first fret, I'd cheat and fret
fifth string on the first fret then use my third finger to barre the
fourth, third and second strings. First string and sixth strings
would be welcome to go pound sand as I 'd ignore them completely.
Pesky things.

I played guitar in a regular dance band once ( who called themselves
The Gus Geddes Bluegrass Experience for some reason. True)
. Because there were brass players in the band - including Gus
himself on baritone sax - (and because brass players can't easily fit
capos to their trombones, trumpets and saxes) almost everything we
played was in F, Bb, Eb, Ab .... A guitarist's nightmare but a
valuable learning experience.

danny

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"Hank" <henry...@NOODLEZAPPERvirgin.net> wrote in message
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capos are extremely useful...

danny


Bageeno Hormonis

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"danny" <da...@spamlessjazzie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> capos are extremely useful...

Considering that R.E.M. has named a song after just about every other piece
of equipment they own (E-Bow the Letter, Fretless, Country Feedback, etc.)
I'm surprised they haven't written something called "capo third fret" or
what have you.

Bageeno


Chris Piuma, etc.

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Hank <henry...@NOODLEZAPPERvirgin.net> wrote in message news:<j9ujeu8irvrcrjaja...@4ax.com>...
> I played guitar in a regular dance band once ( who called themselves
> The Gus Geddes Bluegrass Experience for some reason. True)
> . Because there were brass players in the band - including Gus
> himself on baritone sax - (and because brass players can't easily fit
> capos to their trombones, trumpets and saxes) almost everything we
> played was in F, Bb, Eb, Ab .... A guitarist's nightmare but a
> valuable learning experience.

So you didn't use a capo? Because, really, capo it up three frets, and
you're talking about D, G, C, and F, which aren't such scary chords...

danny

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"Bageeno Hormonis"
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if they don't then travis certainly should... although they tend to capo
the second fret...

danny


Chris Lawrence

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Bageeno Hormonis wrote in message ...


I guess "Radio Song" was a better title than "Capo 1 Funk".

And what's more useful than a capo for playing a Bb? Practice!

Chris


Andrew Palka

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>Considering that R.E.M. has named a song after just about every other piece
>of equipment they own (E-Bow the Letter, Fretless, Country Feedback, etc.)
>I'm surprised they haven't written something called "capo third fret" or
>what have you.

Following that criteria, 'Stand' should have been titled 'Attempted Wah Wah
Pedal'....:-)

Andrew


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"Bageeno Hormonis"
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Andrew Palka

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> >> LOL! I was always quite pleased with myself having thought of
> >> Ruduhuud. Has a certain ring to it. It seems somehow less offensive
> >> to refer to Thom and his merry pranksters thus rather than 'Those
> >> pompous bombastic arseholes' (spelt the British way as i know that
> >> Andrew prides himself on his winning way with Brit slang! )
> >
> >Absobloodylutely!...:-)
>
> Cor Blimey Andrew - that was absolutely uncanny! If I'd closed my
> eyes at that point, I would have sworn that Dick van Dyke himself was
> standing right next to me... :)

Dick van Dyke, huh? Well, I have tripped over a footstool or two in my time.

Andrew
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Bageeno Hormonis

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"Andrew Palka" <asmu...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Following that criteria, 'Stand' should have been titled 'Attempted Wah
Wah
> Pedal'....:-)

Attempted Wah Wah Pedal will get you 5 to 20 years of hard time in Nevada...

Bageeno


Andrew Palka

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>> Following that criteria, 'Stand' should have been titled 'Attempted Wah
Wah
>> Pedal'....:-)

>Attempted Wah Wah Pedal will get you 5 to 20 years of hard time in
Nevada...

Not to mention a good haunting by the ghost of Jimi Hendrix.

Andrew
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"We're always trying to be better songwriters. I think we're doing OK."-Mike
Mills


"Bageeno Hormonis"
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Hank

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On Tue, 21 May 2002 13:15:51 -0700, "Chris Lawrence"
<mus...@islandnet.com> looked up from the sandbox, yelled "I guess I

just wasn't made for these times" then typed :

>

Purist!!!

Hank

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On 21 May 2002 12:29:35 -0700, pi...@flim.com (Chris Piuma, etc.)

looked up from the sandbox, yelled "I guess I just wasn't made for
these times" then typed :

>Hank <henry...@NOODLEZAPPERvirgin.net> wrote in message news:<j9ujeu8irvrcrjaja...@4ax.com>...

All of the guitar parts that I was given were in the true keys and
although those open chords are all much easier to play, I figured
that I'd get into difficulties getting my brain to think 'Everytime
you see Ab written down, play a G as long as the capo's on the first
fret - unless you've just been playing a song in F, in which case
you'll have had the capo on the third fret and have been playing in D.
The other ludicrous consideration was that the bass player couldn't
sight read so he was dependent on watching my left hand to work out
where he had to go! Switching a capo round would have left him
terminally confused.

You're building up a picture of a band that was not long for this
world aren't you? You'd be right. We played two shows ever.

Kevin, the aspiring bass player, was also the singer in my regular
band The Clampetts. At the end of what was undeniably a shambles of a
show with Gus Geddes, he (wisely) put his bass down, took hold a mic,
gave me the nod and we played a spontaneous So Central rain which went
down really well. Then again, we'd played so badly, anything
different would have been received warmly by the crowd.

Smith

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"athol brose" <pulps...@aol.comforting> wrote in message
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> >
> >Question for the musical out there. What are the easiest REM songs to
strum
> >along to for a complete newby on guitar? Something which doesn't involve
> >quick changes?!?
>
> i'm no guitar player (in fact, the only song i can really truly play on
guitar
> is silent night), but the one i love is the only r.e.m. song i've ever
been
> able to play on guitar; and i only picked that up while trying to play
oasis'
> "morning glory"
>

The One I Love is the first REM song I learned how to play. Once I got that
opening riff
timed right with the cd, I was hooked. I've been playing for 10 yrs. now and
anything rem does
I try to learn it. Wishing one day I can back them up on tour.
As far as easy chord changes, my two cents say Man on the Moon is good, Let
Me In is good too.
These other guys say Find The River? That's somewhat more involved, but
easy to play.
If you just flat out wanna play ANYTHING easy and want it to sound good?
Nothing's easier than sliding your finger up and down the high E string to 7
Chinese Bros.


Smith

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"Bageeno Hormonis"
<youareonthewa...@youhavenochancetosurvivemakeyourtime.com> wrote
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I will never understand why Pete thinks his 'Stand' solo sucks.
That's some mighty fine wah wahin'.

smiTH


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