Red Rocks reviewers, HELLO?
kfj
introducing his son. HELLO? Can we get some more details here, please?
-k
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the best, but go ahead. What are you waiting for? Fuck me!' "-- Mike Mills
karenfj at hotmail dot com is the correct address.
kfj
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> OK,
>
> Before the show there was a little kid bouncing around, mugging for the
> audience and having a great time.
>
> I speculated that it was Mike's nephew, as his brother has kids and he
> looked like a little version of Mike.
>
> I asked Mr. McCaughey and he was hesitant to say but sort of answered in
the
> affirmative when I asked if it was his nephew.
>
> During the show, before Why Not Smile, Mike brought him out and said:
>
> "I'm very happy to have my beautiful son Jullian at the show with me" or
> something to that effect, before kissing him. The kid ran back into the
> side. Michael was looking down during this at the kid as well, I think.
>
> EThan
so you were at the show, backstage? i'm not doubting you, i'm just looking
for clarification. :)
kfj
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> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:00:06 -0700 "Ethan Kaplan" <eth...@Murmurs.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > During the show, before Why Not Smile, Mike brought him out and said:
> >
> > "I'm very happy to have my beautiful son Jullian at the show with me" or
> > something to that effect, before kissing him. The kid ran back into the
> > side. Michael was looking down during this at the kid as well, I think.
> >
> heard about this before.
well, it's been discussed, but not on this board or i think outside of
private e-mail since before last night it pretty much fell into the
"unconfirmed gossip" category. Last night was the first time Mills ever
mentioned it. and it was a sweet way to do it.
-k
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Akeller1862
wrote:
>
> During the show, before Why Not Smile, Mike brought him out and said:
>
> "I'm very happy to have my beautiful son Jullian at the show with me" or
> something to that effect, before kissing him. The kid ran back into the
> side. Michael was looking down during this at the kid as well, I think.
>
Okay, Mike has a son? Really? This is weird. I figured i would have
heard about this before.
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<kar...@spotmail.commachameleon> wrote:
> Akeller1862 <grant_g...@SPAMBLOCKhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aU3u3.4344$pO3....@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> > heard about this before.
>
> private e-mail since before last night it pretty much fell into the
> "unconfirmed gossip" category. Last night was the first time Mills ever
> mentioned it. and it was a sweet way to do it.
>
never ever heard the rumor, and I've heard much stranger gossip about
the members of R.E.M..
Hey, do you think that his son was the one what provoked all those
personal changes in 93? Yes, this is personal, pointless, and really
stupid, but it just popped into my head.
Jason Bowen
saw a fan try to high five him later when he was on the side and quickly
get pulled by security.
In article <#7x$R0C6#GA.442@cpmsnbbsa02>,
kfj <kar...@spotmail.commachameleon> wrote:
>um, there's 2 reviews on Murmurs that mention something about Mike
>introducing his son. HELLO? Can we get some more details here, please?
>
>-k
>
>
>--
>"Michael's just saying, 'Yeah, relationships are tough and ours may not be
>the best, but go ahead. What are you waiting for? Fuck me!' "-- Mike Mills
Lisa Gardner
[re: mike mill's son:]
>Okay, cool. It was a good way to do it. I'm just a bit suprised. I've
>never ever heard the rumor, and I've heard much stranger gossip about
I can definitely understand why Mike wouldn't want everyone and their
brother/sister/grandpa/etc. to know about his boy; kids are awfully important
people to their parents and parents may not necessarily want the whole
world to know everything about them.
I mean, I adore my own son, but I don't really talk *that* much about him
on the net, even though sometimes I'd like to. This is a conscious decision;
I just don't want to put a whole lot of info about my son out there in the public
domain. It just makes me nervous to do it. And this is just usenet, and I'm just
ms. non-famous, average person, y'know? Mike's situation is magnified
ten-millionfold. So I can definitely understand the reason for the silence.
Lisa
why, yes, I *am* paranoid... were you wondering? hah.
kfj
> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:06:45 -0700 "kfj"
> <kar...@spotmail.commachameleon> wrote:
> > Akeller1862 <grant_g...@SPAMBLOCKhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:aU3u3.4344$pO3....@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com...
> > > Okay, Mike has a son? Really? This is weird. I figured i would have
> > > heard about this before.
> >
> > well, it's been discussed, but not on this board or i think outside of
> > private e-mail since before last night it pretty much fell into the
> > "unconfirmed gossip" category. Last night was the first time Mills ever
> > mentioned it. and it was a sweet way to do it.
> >
> Okay, cool. It was a good way to do it. I'm just a bit suprised. I've
> never ever heard the rumor, and I've heard much stranger gossip about
> the members of R.E.M..
JOKE AHEAD: i still don't believe the one about Bill, Michael & Squeaky
Fromme. JOKE OVER!
> Hey, do you think that his son was the one what provoked all those
> personal changes in 93? Yes, this is personal, pointless, and really
> stupid, but it just popped into my head.
i think it's one of those things that's really difficult to speculate about.
Presumably he will talk about it at some point with the press - when they
finish asking him about Michael. :) And then we will have more answers, or
not. But it's an inherently difficult thing to discuss since Mills is so
sparing in discussing personal aspects of his life.
-k
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Ethan Kaplan
when I asked and then changed the subject quickly.
Ethan
Lisa F. Drake <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:ldrake-1708...@ppp-1-6.dialup.rdu.ipass.net...
> Ohmigosh you mean a band member (yes, I consider Scott to be one right
> now) gave you INCORRECT INFO? How could he, Ethan?
>
> "Ethan Kaplan" <eth...@Murmurs.com> wrote:
>
> >I was in the audience. He did it during the show. I spoke to Scott back
by
> >the mixing board for a bit.
> >
> >EThan
> >
> >kfj <kar...@spotmail.commachameleon> wrote in message
> >news:#1kpLDE6#GA.442@cpmsnbbsa02...
> >> Ethan Kaplan <eth...@Murmurs.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ND0u3.2240$0C4....@typ11a.deja.bcandid.com...
> >> > OK,
> >> >
> >> > Before the show there was a little kid bouncing around, mugging for
the
> >> > audience and having a great time.
> >> >
> >> > I speculated that it was Mike's nephew, as his brother has kids and
he
> >> > looked like a little version of Mike.
> >> >
> >> > I asked Mr. McCaughey and he was hesitant to say but sort of answered
in
> >> the
> >> > affirmative when I asked if it was his nephew.
> >> >
> >> > During the show, before Why Not Smile, Mike brought him out and said:
> >> >
> >> > "I'm very happy to have my beautiful son Jullian at the show with me"
or
> >> > something to that effect, before kissing him. The kid ran back into
the
> >> > side. Michael was looking down during this at the kid as well, I
think.
> >> >
> >> > EThan
> >>
> >> so you were at the show, backstage? i'm not doubting you, i'm just
looking
> >> for clarification. :)
> >> -k
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> "Michael's just saying, 'Yeah, relationships are tough and ours may not
be
> >> the best, but go ahead. What are you waiting for? Fuck me!' "-- Mike
> >Mills
> >> karenfj at hotmail dot com is the correct address.
> >>
> >>
>
> Lisa
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> 7/22/99
hazelnothazel
Hello, folks!
Well, I for one am stunned. I can completely understand wanting/needing
to keep one's private life private, but how this tidbit never made it to
a public forum I'll never know. Maybe it attests to the quality of the
people involved, eh?
My mind is reeling with questions the answers to which are none of my
business, yet they keep a-comin'.
Prior to this I was going to apply for membership in the Moulins Rouge,
but now cognitive dissonance has gotten in the way: Lust. Dad. Lust.
Dad. Lust. Dad. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
hazelnothazel
Group: rec.music.rem Date: Mon, Aug 16, 1999, 7:00pm (CDT-2) From:
eth...@Murmurs.com (Ethan Kaplan) Re: Red Rocks reviewers, HELLO?
OK,
Before the show there was a little kid bouncing around, mugging for the
audience and having a great time.
I speculated that it was Mike's nephew, as his brother has kids and he
looked like a little version of Mike.
I asked Mr. McCaughey and he was hesitant to say but sort of answered in
the affirmative when I asked if it was his nephew.
During the show, before Why Not Smile, Mike brought him out and said:
"I'm very happy to have my beautiful son Jullian at the show with me" or
something to that effect, before kissing him. The kid ran back into the
side. Michael was looking down during this at the kid as well, I think.
EThan
kfj <kar...@spotmail.commachameleon> wrote in message
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um, there's 2 reviews on Murmurs that mention something about Mike
introducing his son. HELLO? Can we get some more details here, please?
kfj
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<<(delurking)
Hello, folks!
Well, I for one am stunned. I can completely understand wanting/needing
to keep one's private life private, but how this tidbit never made it to
a public forum I'll never know. Maybe it attests to the quality of the
people involved, eh?
My mind is reeling with questions the answers to which are none of my
business, yet they keep a-comin'.
Prior to this I was going to apply for membership in the Moulins Rouge,
but now cognitive dissonance has gotten in the way: Lust. Dad. Lust.
Dad. Lust. Dad. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!>>
well, i think you stated the whole thing remarkably well. there's questions
a plenty but they're really none of our business. and yet, wow. kinda
shocking. :) even for those uf us who had heard of child's existence.
except for the cognitive dissonance thing - heck, all i've ever be doing is
looking, and i feel free to look with lust. :)
-k
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kfj
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> What struck me more was that if he's eight years old he was probably born
in
> 1991. Kind of puts a new spin on some of Out of Time - Me in Honey
> especially.
but stipe wrote that song as an answer to natalie merchant's eat for two. :)
i also don't think parakeet has ANYTHING to do with Bill berry. ;)
i imagine in terms of timing and the like, i think we will have to wait and
see if this theory bears fruit.
-k
who would also like to note that she thought of it first - really! ask, um,
the person i was e-mailing with yesterday . . .
Chris Brown
Akeller1862 <grant_g...@SPAMBLOCKhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > Okay, Mike has a son? Really? This is weird. I figured i would have
> > > heard about this before.
> >
> > well, it's been discussed, but not on this board or i think outside of
> > private e-mail since before last night it pretty much fell into the
> > "unconfirmed gossip" category. Last night was the first time Mills ever
> > mentioned it. and it was a sweet way to do it.
> >
> Okay, cool. It was a good way to do it. I'm just a bit suprised. I've
> never ever heard the rumor, and I've heard much stranger gossip about
> the members of R.E.M..
> Hey, do you think that his son was the one what provoked all those
> personal changes in 93? Yes, this is personal, pointless, and really
> stupid, but it just popped into my head.
What struck me more was that if he's eight years old he was probably born in
1991. Kind of puts a new spin on some of Out of Time - Me in Honey
especially.
Chris
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"kfj" <kar...@spotmail.commachameleon> wrote:
> well, i think you stated the whole thing remarkably well. there's
questions
> a plenty but they're really none of our business. and yet, wow. kinda
> shocking. :)
Ok, so here's the thing before we all fly off the handle, though:
Isn't Mills' nephew named Julian? I don't know why I think that or why
I even heard that at one point or why I should care, but for some
reason I do remember thinking that. I know it's none of my business
and yadda yadda yadda, but who does remember Mitch's kids names? Isn't
one of them Julian? Perhaps Mike was just being affectionate at the
show? ("You're like my son, too....")
yea yea, mind your own god damned business, I know.
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> In article <OjMUjbR6#GA.496@cpmsnbbsa02>,
> "kfj" <kar...@spotmail.commachameleon> wrote:
>
> > well, i think you stated the whole thing remarkably well. there's
> questions
> > a plenty but they're really none of our business. and yet, wow. kinda
> > shocking. :)
>
> Ok, so here's the thing before we all fly off the handle, though:
> Isn't Mills' nephew named Julian? I don't know why I think that or why
> I even heard that at one point or why I should care, but for some
> reason I do remember thinking that. I know it's none of my business
> and yadda yadda yadda, but who does remember Mitch's kids names? Isn't
> one of them Julian? Perhaps Mike was just being affectionate at the
> show? ("You're like my son, too....")
>
No, a lot of us have known for years that Mike Mills has a son. We just
never discussed in in public (as opposed to private email or chats). It
has been brought up here on occasion too, but no one ever replied to any
posts mentioning it. Last winter, someone from Sweden said that an
article about R.E.M. in a local paper or magazine said that Mills had a
son and asked us what we knew. No one replied to that post. A few months
later someone else asked about Mills' son and again no one replied. I was
really proud of us all, as Mills had never publicly discussed the son that
I knew of and we were letting him have his privacy on the matter at least
as far as public discussion went.
Rebecca
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kfj
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> No, a lot of us have known for years that Mike Mills has a son. We just
> never discussed in in public (as opposed to private email or chats). It
> has been brought up here on occasion too, but no one ever replied to any
> posts mentioning it. Last winter, someone from Sweden said that an
> article about R.E.M. in a local paper or magazine said that Mills had a
> son and asked us what we knew. No one replied to that post. A few months
> later someone else asked about Mills' son and again no one replied. I was
> really proud of us all, as Mills had never publicly discussed the son that
> I knew of and we were letting him have his privacy on the matter at least
> as far as public discussion went.
yeah, exactly. anyway, at this point, we should prolly let this die now,
too. until something new becomes public, in an interview or whatever, there
isn't much left to say. and as hard as it is to resist natural curiosity, i
prefer to respect Mills's privacy.
granted, i'm guilty of stoking the topic, but i apologize right now. :) and
promise not to contribute anything more on rmr to these threads unless
something else comes to light from Mills.
-k
anni...@my-deja.com
smo...@Ihatespam.org (Smoot) wrote:
> No, a lot of us have known for years that Mike Mills has a son. We
>just never discussed in in public (as opposed to private email or
>chats). It has been brought up here on occasion too, but no one ever
>replied to any posts mentioning it. Last winter, someone from Sweden
>said that an article about R.E.M. in a local paper or magazine said
>that Mills had a son and asked us what we knew. No one replied to that
>post. A few months later someone else asked about Mills' son and again
>no one replied. I was really proud of us all, as Mills had never
>publicly discussed the son that I knew of and we were letting him have
>his privacy on the matter at least as far as public discussion went.
>
uh...ok. Whatever. I do find it intensely frightening that y'all knew
something so "private" about someone who doesn't even know you
exist.... I don't want to know how you found out -- be it stalker-esque
tendencies or what. But before you flame me for that statement: mad
props to you for keeping your mouths shut about it to the rest of us.
watching my back (but in a not-really-relax-i'm-joking kind of way),
--
annie k.
"For a minute there, I lost myself..." Radiohead
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Rebecca Lewis wrote in message
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> I was really proud of us all, as Mills had never publicly discussed the
son that
> I knew of and we were letting him have his privacy on the matter at least
> as far as public discussion went.
I must say, it's testament to the character of the on-line fan community
that this can be kept private until Mike made it public. Sometimes, we're
amazing.
--
Rob Andrews
mean cats eat parakeets
http://athens.home.ml.org
AMYSA
>son that
>> I knew of and we were letting him have his privacy on the matter at least
>> as far as public discussion went.
>
i was actually pretty shocked when i stumbled into this thread. i couldn't
believe that it was actually being discussed in public as opposed to the
private little, "oh yeah, it's true" emails. i only found out about this about
four years ago and i know of so many online fans who knew long before that. i
think it's pretty incredible that this, of all things, managed to be kept
"quiet" for so long.
amy
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come look at jon:
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AMYSA
>something so "private" about someone who doesn't even know you
>exist.... I don't want to know how you found out -- be it stalker-esque
>tendencies or what.
uh...ok. Whatever.
you don't have be "stalker-esque" to be on the recieving end of gossip. after
you hear the same thing over and over and after you've had conversations with
other people who've heard things you tend to put two and two together and
eventually realize that you've all of a sudden become privy to something
private. people talk and sometimes you find yourself listening to them.
Chinook
Ethan Kaplan wrote in message ...
>OK,
>
>Before the show there was a little kid bouncing around, mugging for the
>audience and having a great time.
He was adorable, he was climbing the rocks, waving at and filming the
audience with
a video camera. At one point he came front and center, gave a dramatic bow,
and ran
offstage. This was before the show and he was also climbing rocks and
wondering
around during Mercury Rev's set. He also was wearing a jacket that a friend
of mine
said was like "someone left Mike's jacket in the dayer too long." People
were saying
they he must be Mike's nephew, but I really thought he was too much like
Mike to just
be his nephew.
Melora
(from Lisa's in Colorado, my email addy is mel...@moscow.com)
kfj
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> >uh...ok. Whatever. I do find it intensely frightening that y'all knew
> >something so "private" about someone who doesn't even know you
> >exist.... I don't want to know how you found out -- be it stalker-esque
> >tendencies or what.
>
> uh...ok. Whatever.
>
> you don't have be "stalker-esque" to be on the recieving end of gossip.
after
> you hear the same thing over and over and after you've had conversations
with
> other people who've heard things you tend to put two and two together and
> eventually realize that you've all of a sudden become privy to something
> private. people talk and sometimes you find yourself listening to them.
as sharon put it so nicely, there's nothing stalkerish or whatever about it.
people talk. my friend met barrie buck in 1993 and told me a story about it,
presumably one or two of the people i've told the story have also repeated
it. when i hear gossip or think i "know" something i always think twice
before posting about it or refering to it.
and well, people talk about famous people. i know people who insist up and
down tom cruise is gay - i've never met him, i couldn't care less, but
that's something intensely private i might claim to know about cruise. how
does that make us "stalkerish?"
kfj
> k said:
>
> >and well, people talk about famous people. i know people who insist up
and
> >down tom cruise is gay - i've never met him, i couldn't care less, but
> >that's something intensely private i might claim to know about cruise.
>
>
> oops...wrong group.
i hate gwyneth paltrow, i think tom & nicole are a sham and i'm suspicious
of john travolta. and everyone's gay until proven other wise. except carmen
electra. all hail agc! bow down before pusssykatt! :)
oops, wrong group. ;)
AMYSA
>and well, people talk about famous people. i know people who insist up and
>down tom cruise is gay - i've never met him, i couldn't care less, but
>that's something intensely private i might claim to know about cruise.
now, now, now karen...he USED to be gay. the scientologists fixed him.
oops...wrong group.
:-)amy
AMYSA
i talk about kids in the hall episodes in the newsradio group...movies on the
tv groups...craig kilborn on the jon stewart lists...why NOT talk about tom and
nicole and the fact that they're both beards for each other? it would fit right
into my sweeping disregard for posting on topic these days.
and i hear that lara flynn boyle...oh, nevermind.
anni...@my-deja.com
am...@aol.comasutra (AMYSA) wrote:
> uh...ok. Whatever.
>
> you don't have be "stalker-esque" to be on the recieving end of
>gossip. after
> you hear the same thing over and over and after you've had
>conversations with
> other people who've heard things you tend to put two and two together
>and
> eventually realize that you've all of a sudden become privy to
>something
> private. people talk and sometimes you find yourself listening to
>them.
>
Even though I am SO not interested in getting into this, I'll clarify
my original statement, just ONCE: yes, yes, yes, you cannot help
hearing what you hear. And I guess human nature makes us spread and re-
tell such things, which is not necessarily a bad thing (I'm actually
reading a really good book by Patricia Meyer Spacks called Gossip which
suggests otherwise). However, the um....intensity of some people's
posts was, I guess, freaking me out. I'm not gonna get into who or
what, I just had to mention I found a few things a little creepy.
Fine, I retract stalkeresque. But I do not retract the fact that it
scares me how much some people know about someone who doesn't even know
they exist. I'm sure certain people would be frightened by it too.
kfj
> >oops, wrong group. ;)
>
> i talk about kids in the hall episodes in the newsradio group...movies on
the
> tv groups...craig kilborn on the jon stewart lists...why NOT talk about
tom and
> nicole and the fact that they're both beards for each other? it would fit
right
> into my sweeping disregard for posting on topic these days.
>
> and i hear that lara flynn boyle...oh, nevermind.
is dating jack nicholson, acting as a beard for david spade and is anorexic?
i heard that, too.
hey amy, i want to see the meteor shower better - can you go cut the power
lines to the street lights for me? ;)
AMYSA
>scares me how much some people know about someone who doesn't even know
>they exist. I'm sure certain people would be frightened by it too.
is it better to hear such information and not bother spreading it around or is
it better to hear it and run here and post it. having respect for someone's
privacy, yet sharing a couple of emails with a friend about, "hey, i had no
idea mike had a son...cool", is a lot better than blabbling it around. the way
you are throwing the words like "creepy", "stalkeresque", etc. around tends to
make me believe you think people actually care about this. i havn't even
thought about mike's kid in a couple of years...and, for that matter, i don't
even think that any private emails i've had in the past few months with people
that frequent this board have had anything to do with rem in the least.
i should have just stayed out of this thread entirely, but i was so surprised
when i stumbled into the middle of it, that i posted without thinking. i just
kind of resent this "i'm sure...would be frightened by this too", because that
insinuates that you think that email after email has been shared and copied and
passed along where people sit all day wondering about mike's son and how old he
is and where he's from and who the mom is. i don't know most of that, i don't
care about most of that and i don't lose any sleep over ANY of that. i mean,
who cares?
anni...@my-deja.com
am...@aol.comasutra (AMYSA) wrote:
>
> i should have just stayed out of this thread entirely, but i was so
>surprised
> when i stumbled into the middle of it, that i posted without
>thinking. i just
> kind of resent this "i'm sure...would be frightened by this too",
>because that
> insinuates that you think that email after email has been shared and
>copied and
> passed along where people sit all day wondering about mike's son and
>how old he
> is and where he's from and who the mom is. i don't know most of that,
>i don't
> care about most of that and i don't lose any sleep over ANY of that.
>i mean,
> who cares?
>
> amy
Well I sure as hell don't.
Ok, first of all, my original post was not aimed at you, I don't even
know who you are. I don't care wether you lose sleep over it or not.
Why are you getting so offended and defensive? From where I was
sitting, one of the responses to my original post DID look overzealous
and obsessive...and it WASN'T YOURS. What, I don't have a right to
react to that? Oh sorry. I guess I don't. I'll check with you next
time.
Now I take it that you personally know everyone involved in this thread
and can speak for all in saying no one cares, no one is obsessing, etc.
If that's the case, you get a big apology from me. Seriously! If those
people are offended and you're speaking for them, then I honestly do
apologize for hurting people's feelings in my haste.
If that's not the case, however, then I must say again....RELAX. Why
are you getting so involved when I wasn't even talking about YOU in the
first place? Freud would have a field day with you, honey.
AMYSA
i never assumed that it was aimed at me, however, my initial intention was to
point out that most of the people who knew about this and said nothing aren't
freaks.
>Why are you getting so offended and defensive?
the only thing that i have defended (twice now) or, rather, objected to, was
the bizarre usage of the word "stalker"...
> From where I was
>sitting, one of the responses to my original post DID look overzealous
>and obsessive...and it WASN'T YOURS.
never thought it was.
> What, I don't have a right to
>react to that? Oh sorry. I guess I don't. I'll check with you next
>time.
you have ever right to react, as do i. and, iirc (you can look), i responded to
your post in the same way you posted. you can react all day long and, as i'll
say over and over evidently, there's nothing "stalkeresque" about sharing a
couple of emails about something of that nature.
>Now I take it that you personally know everyone involved in this thread
>and can speak for all in saying no one cares, no one is obsessing, etc.
yeah, that's exactly what i was doing. wasn't that obvious? for god's sake...if
you'll go back, i frequently use the little one letter word "i"...my posts were
to point out that, while there might be a freak or two that lurks among us, i
take a little exception to words like "stalker" and your "i'm sure others would
be frightened too" comment. can you speak for others? eh? if so, then a sincere
apology to you from me. if that's the case, you get a big apology from me.
Seriously!
> Freud would have a field day with you, honey.
oh, heavens. someone called me "honey". time to mark this thread permanently
read, i guess.
my point (which i never strayed from) was lost, i suppose.
night, night.
anni...@my-deja.com
am...@aol.comasutra (AMYSA) wrote:
>
> i never assumed that it was aimed at me, however, my initial
>intention was to
> point out that most of the people who knew about this and said
>nothing aren't
> freaks.
>
Never said that. I'd never call anyone a freak.
> you have ever right to react, as do i. and, iirc (you can look), i
>responded to your post in the same way you posted. you can react all
>day long and, as i'll say over and over evidently, there's nothing
>"stalkeresque" about sharing a couple of emails about something of
>that nature.
Listen, I swear to God I was not talking about you and whoever sharing
a couple emails, or whatever it was you wrote to me. Really, I didn't
even read what you posted in response to my post, I don't think...I
still haven't and probably never will.
> for god's sake...if
> you'll go back, i frequently use the little one letter word "i"...my
>posts were to point out that, while there might be a freak or two that
>lurks among us, i take a little exception to words like "stalker" and
>your "i'm sure others would be frightened too" comment. can you speak
>for others? eh?
hmmmm, ya never know, right? Again I must say -- I wasn't and still am
not referring to you, but to the poster who responded to my original
question in such an overzealous, uppity way. S/he needed a tranq.
> oh, heavens. someone called me "honey".
It's just my little way of telling you that I think you're special.
> time to mark this thread >permanently
> read, i guess.
yawn...me too. You picked a fight with me once before, but I can't
remember what over. It was just as lack-luster as this, and therefore,
completely forgettable.
> my point (which i never strayed from) was lost, i suppose.
Oh, were you trying to make one? About this thing you supposedly care
nothing about and "posted to without thinking" whilst "accidentally
stumbling" into?
> night, night.
ttfn, pookie
Smoot
> In article <19990819124638...@ng-fo1.aol.com>,
> am...@aol.comasutra (AMYSA) wrote:
>
> >
> > i should have just stayed out of this thread entirely, but i was so
> >surprised
> > when i stumbled into the middle of it, that i posted without
> >thinking. i just
> > kind of resent this "i'm sure...would be frightened by this too",
> >because that
> > insinuates that you think that email after email has been shared and
> >copied and
> > passed along where people sit all day wondering about mike's son and
> >how old he
> > is and where he's from and who the mom is. i don't know most of that,
> >i don't
> > care about most of that and i don't lose any sleep over ANY of that.
> >i mean,
> > who cares?
> >
> > amy
>
> Well I sure as hell don't.
>
> Ok, first of all, my original post was not aimed at you, I don't even
> know who you are. I don't care wether you lose sleep over it or not.
> Why are you getting so offended and defensive? From where I was
> sitting, one of the responses to my original post DID look overzealous
> and obsessive...and it WASN'T YOURS. What, I don't have a right to
> react to that? Oh sorry. I guess I don't. I'll check with you next
> time.
>
Well if it was aimed at me, you are still totally off base. I don't have
any fervent interest in the doings of Mike Mills either. I am mildly
curious about him and the others in my favorite band because they are
interesting individuals living fairly interesting lives. But let me assure
you, it is a curiousity on a par with my interests in many other subjects.
Certainly not the type of interest of a stalker.
I found your post saying something about how maybe he was really Mike's
nephew to be rather silly. It seemed to me that you were the one with the
untoward interest in Mike and needed to believe that he wasn't a father. I
assumed that this interferred with your fantascies of him and wanted to
set you straight. That's why my post was so firm, to try to knock sense
into what seemed to be obsession on your part.
I knew about Mike's son because I have a couple of acquaintances that
have seen them together in the past and were told who the boy was by
people in a position to know. The subject has come up in private
conversation and they knew I wasn't going to post it publicly on a venue
such as rmr as long as Mike hadn't mentioned him in public. But now he
has introduced him to the public. I had in the past wondered how the son
might feel when he got older seeing Peter's kids referred to all the time
as the only offspring of the three R.E.M. bandmembers. On the other hand,
I can certainly understand why a public figure would want his child to
have as much privacy as possible while growing up.
We don't dwell on Zoe and Zelda. People comment on seeing them and how
cute they are. And it's fun to see a bad ass rocker like Peter turn into a
melting papa with his girls. (As is apparent from his comments.) I can't
see us treating Mike's son any differently.
Rebecca
> Now I take it that you personally know everyone involved in this thread
> and can speak for all in saying no one cares, no one is obsessing, etc.
> If that's the case, you get a big apology from me. Seriously! If those
> people are offended and you're speaking for them, then I honestly do
> apologize for hurting people's feelings in my haste.
>
> If that's not the case, however, then I must say again....RELAX. Why
> are you getting so involved when I wasn't even talking about YOU in the
> first place? Freud would have a field day with you, honey.
>
> --
> annie k.
>
> "For a minute there, I lost myself..." Radiohead
--
Font of All Important Info
by mysterious forces to respond to AMYSA:
[...]
>> my point (which i never strayed from) was lost, i suppose.
>
>Oh, were you trying to make one? About this thing you supposedly care
>nothing about and "posted to without thinking" whilst "accidentally
>stumbling" into?
>
>> night, night.
>
>ttfn, pookie
oh, shut up already, you fool.
--dez, go AMY, go AMY, go AMY! ;)
....a pistol-hot cup of Dez...
"Chef of chicanery, your buns are mine!"
--the Tick
AMYSA
>a couple emails, or whatever it was you wrote to me. Really, I didn't
>even read what you posted in response to my post, I don't think...I
>still haven't and probably never will.
so you respond to things you don't read?
>yawn...me too. You picked a fight with me once before, but I can't
>remember what over. It was just as lack-luster as this, and therefore,
>completely forgettable.
i don't pick fights.
>Oh, were you trying to make one? About this thing you supposedly care
>nothing about and "posted to without thinking" whilst "accidentally
>stumbling" into?
well, you may have missed my original point, but you just proved another one.
the last one. thanks.
NaRiMaN
> Okay, cool. It was a good way to do it. I'm just a bit suprised. I've
> never ever heard the rumor, and I've heard much stranger gossip about
> the members of R.E.M..
Speaking of gossip and just... stuff... I remember reading aaaages ago on
RMR that Stipey was married for a few fleeting moments -- or did I just
invent that somehow?? At the time I was a bit skeptical about it, 'cause he
doesn't seem the settle-down type to me. Also, I haven't heard any other
mention of him being married/divorced. Info, anyone?
And while we're on the subject of Mills (or we were, or something), is
HE married? *SHRuG* I've been a fan for a long time, but I don't know this
shit.
NaRiMaN
--
Your fantasies are unlikely. But beautiful.
Feel free to visit my intermittently amusing webpage at:
www.ozemail.com.au/~sahukar
[.end communication.]
Fopa
> Speaking of gossip and just... stuff... I remember reading aaaages ago > on RMR that Stipey was married for a few fleeting moments -- or did I > just invent that somehow?? At the time I was a bit skeptical about it, > 'cause he doesn't seem the settle-down type to me. Also, I haven't > heard any other mention of him being married/divorced. Info, anyone?
apparently, there is a fake stipe on the internet, who goes by the name
of "mr. b happenin" or something like that. people have said he is a
convincing faker, but a faker nonetheless. and this online stipe
allegedly lives in vermont with a wife and kid (from what i've heard).
doesn't sound like the real mr. stipe, to me.
> And while we're on the subject of Mills (or we were, or something), is > HE married? *SHRuG* I've been a fan for a long time, but I don't know > this shit.
as far as i know, mills isn't married either. last i heard, he had a
girlfriend (wasn't jill her name?).
-jennyparsley
jubila...@my-deja.com
>
> as far as i know, mills isn't married either. last i heard, he had a
> girlfriend (wasn't jill her name?).
>
> -jennyparsley
>
They are no longer seeing one another.
s.
athe...@my-deja.com
NaRiMaN wrote: > > Speaking of gossip and just... stuff... I remember
reading aaaages ago > on RMR that Stipey was married for a few fleeting
moments -- or did I > just invent that somehow?? At the time I was a bit
skeptical about it, > 'cause he doesn't seem the settle-down type to me.
Also, I haven't > heard any other mention of him being married/divorced.
longer uses "Mr B" though, and he's now on AOLIM rather than AOL. Here is
the story I got. He - "Stipe" was married to a girl in her mid 20's who
lives in Northern Mass. She has a child from a previous marriage and he said
she had his child too, a Son, Ouli. Supposedbly, this son has since passed
away due to an illness he was born with. However, "Stipe" says he and this
girl are no longer married, and that now she is dating or mairred to Thom
Yorke (yeah right). They never lived in Vermont, but he did buy a house
there and he says it's only about 30 minutes from her house in Mass.
According to him ( "stipe" ) they had also had another child together, a
daughter who was born after a drunk driving accident and had complications.
This was prior to the son. So, Jenny, think we have been talking to the same
person? I will agree, he is definately convincing. Anyone else had any run
in's with this person?? > apparently, there is a fake stipe on the internet,
who goes by the name > of "mr. b happenin" or something like that. people
have said he is a > convincing faker, but a faker nonetheless. and this
online stipe > allegedly lives in vermont with a wife and kid (from what i've
heard). > doesn't sound like the real mr. stipe, to me. > > > And while
we're on the subject of Mills (or we were, or something), is > HE married?
*SHRuG* I've been a fan for a long time, but I don't know > this shit. > >
girlfriend (wasn't jill her name?). > > -jennyparsley >
Chris Brown
Smoot <smo...@Ihatespam.org> wrote in message news:smoott->
> I can certainly understand why a public figure would want his child to
> have as much privacy as possible while growing up.
> We don't dwell on Zoe and Zelda. People comment on seeing them and how
> cute they are. And it's fun to see a bad ass rocker like Peter turn into a
Isn't that kind of the point though?
Chris
--
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Angie
>well, i think you stated the whole thing remarkably well. there's questions
>a plenty but they're really none of our business. and yet, wow. kinda
Especially shocking for those of us who hadn't. I mean, wow. WOW. Not like
I'm offended or anything (so he had a child out of wedlock, happens all the
time), it's just a stunner that the kid's 8 years old and only just now
presented by Mike. Though I understand, it's got to be hard for someone in
Mike's position to make sure the child grows up "normally" -- not in the
spotlight. Michael and Peter get so much scrutiny already...Mike has every
right to want his privacy.
Angie
Fopa
on the warner bros. r.e.m. site's message board (that's where i first
heard of him). i believe that ethan knows a lot about him. the only
person online who has ever been confirmed as michael stipe was the one
who posted in the ng several years ago. so, don't be fooled by anyone
else!
-jennyparsley
Font of All Important Info
by mysterious forces to say:
so does his child's mom.
--dez, he didn't make this baby by himself, after all (i mean, that
would pretty damned amazing, but c'mon!)
Font of All Important Info
compelled by mysterious forces to say:
>yeah, this mr. b guy is very convincing and has fooled a lot of people
this guy has also pretended to be Mike Mills. funniest (and stupidest
thing) he ever did was show up in an R.E.M. chat with his little
"entourage," including a fake Courtney Love. didn't take me long to
bust their lying asses, either <gloat gloat>.
--dez, has busted several fake Courtney Loves already, hee hee!
Angie
]>Mike has every right to want his privacy.
dez replied:
>so does his child's mom.
Hmm, I guess I could've phrased that better. (sheepish grin) Of course, the
mom, too. Mother and child are in the same situation, practically: live
halfway "normal" lives, or forever be associated with Mike?
Angie,
who honestly never expects to find out who the mother is, nor does she need to
know...
*****************************************************
"It could just mean that he makes a really good hamburger, but I don't think
so..." -- my best friend, Jill, pondering Mike Mills's "Mr. Meat Science" pick
Joey Odorisio
Hee hee, a sentence with "fake" "bust" and "Courtney Love" in it.
--
JOEY ODORISIO Spirali...@prodigy.net
http://pages.prodigy.net/spiraling_shape/
"I`m not scared, I`m outta here." - R.E.M., Electrolite
Font of All Important Info
<spirali...@prodigy.net> felt compelled by mysterious forces to
say:
>> --dez, has busted several fake Courtney Loves already, hee hee!
>
> Hee hee, a sentence with "fake" "bust" and "Courtney Love" in it.
thank you ;)
--dez, too fond of puns, i'm sure
anni...@my-deja.com
.....and the reason I hate posting here sometimes?
> oh, shut up already, you fool.
>
> --dez, go AMY, go AMY, go AMY! ;)
>
> ....a pistol-hot cup of Dez...
Adolescent fools with nothing but time on their hands, who but their
way into conversations which don't involve them just to say something
"funny". ha. ha. ha. Why bother? Honestly? Cranky from your lack of
nappy time? What?
--
annie k.
"For a minute there, I lost myself..." Radiohead
Joey Odorisio
> >
> > Hee hee, a sentence with "fake" "bust" and "Courtney Love" in it.
>
> thank you ;)
>
> --dez, too fond of puns, i'm sure
Was that originally an intended joke? :)
Font of All Important Info
by mysterious forces to say:
>.....and the reason I hate posting here sometimes?
>
>
>> oh, shut up already, you fool.
>>
>> --dez, go AMY, go AMY, go AMY! ;)
>>
>> ....a pistol-hot cup of Dez...
>
>
>Adolescent fools with nothing but time on their hands, who but their
>way into conversations which don't involve them just to say something
>"funny". ha. ha. ha. Why bother? Honestly? Cranky from your lack of
>nappy time? What?
if you post on a *public* forum, you can expect most anyone to read
and perhaps to respond to your post. if you want your thoughts to be
read only by one person, then e-mail that person.
and as far as your "adolescent fools" and "cranky" comments, allow me
to quote from the holy ASG:
pot. kettle. black.
--dez, what fools these morons be...
....a pistol-hot cup of Dez...
"Chef of chicanery, your buns are mine!"
--the Tick