>In Country feedback, the lyrics are quoted as being:
>We've been through fake, a breakdown, self hurt,
>plastics, collections. Self help, self pain, EST,
>psychics, fuck all.
>What does the EST mean?
>J.
I think it's Eastern Standard Time (USA East Coast).
My guess would be "electro-shock therapy," a somewhat common psychiatric treat-
ment.
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It worked about as well as any of these programs did.
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> What does the EST mean?
I think it is in the faq, I forgot off hand what it means.
> J.
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I always understood it as meaning electric shock therapy, (a.k.a. shock
treatment) as is used to treat serious mental disorders. Often, it's
used to treat severe depression, so seems to make sense.
>EST (pronounced est, not by spelling) was the brainchild of Werner
Erhardt
>(your spelling may vary). It was one of these maximize your potential,
>remake your personality, finally succeed in life scams that were popular
>in the 70's. Its tactics included not letting its seminar attendees rest
>or go to the loo for hours, in order to break through and all that.
"est" is Latin for "it is." The est program promised to help you find "it"
(whatever "it" might be to you). Werner Erhardt (aka Arnold Lipschitz or
something similar to that) was the supreme scam artist.
My sister did it in the very early 80s and thought it was the greatest
thing ever. By the time I was 15, she eventually suckered everyone in my
family (except for lifelong scoffing cynic me) into doing "The Seminar" as
it was called. They all agreed it was life altering, and I felt like a
heretic trapped in a Moonie camp with all their cajoling and codewords.
Personally, I didn't see the point of paying $500 to sit in a room for 48
hours literally being screamed at and addressed as "asshole."
>It worked about as well as any of these programs did.
My sister swore by it then and still is involved to some extent in the
various recent permutations of it. None of the other six family members
who did it seem to carry any of those life-altering qualities they claimed
to have found. They're all lonely, divorced, lost, pathetic, helpless. I
love them, but--hell, let's call a spade a spade.
*me^..^
...it really would be easier if you read it!!! :->
Big D
"Electroshock therapy" is usually called Electroconvulsive therapy by them
what's done it (or had it). I have assisted with this treatment for
depression in my professional life. The term is not heard pronounced
"est", but by its initials, "E.C.T." or rarely "E.S.T." The weird
self-improvement program was always called "est."
In contrast, EST was pretty much crap!