Bang and Blame=Losing My Religion
Rob Kingston
>
> I take offense to your saying that we had to see REM in '86 to be
> counted as a true fan!!! Yes, I'm only 16, but it's not like
> I've just jumped on the REM bandwagon with Automatic. I've been
> a REM fan for a number of years now, and just because I haven't
> had the great, good fortune of being the same age as you doesn't
> mean I'm not a "true" fan!!
yeah - too right, i'm only 17 so i'm not likely to have seen REM in 86
at the age of 9...
but i've been following REM since i bought Document, back in '88, and
then followed it up with Eponymous to get a feel of the older stuff.
So all this stuff about "real fans" is a load of bull, it's just that
some of us don't have walkmans in our prams :)
a.m. fox
i am almost 17 [13 days to go, yehaw] and consider
myself a hardcore remfreak. let me tell you why i qualify . . . becasue i
have every album and i just love their music. there is no way i was going
to be able to get murmur at the age of 5, so for all the epople that are
of the opinion that you have to have gotten a certain album when it came
out, or something like that . . . bite me, baby!!
however, i will admit that i am definitely a snob when it comes
to people saying "oh, i LOVE rem!!" and then proceed to tell me about the
3 albums they have . . . i'm sorry [me being a snob, i will not deny
this] but i just can't take someone seriously if they call themselves an
rem fan and they don't have all the albums . . . you just have to have
them all for the true remexperience, n'est-ce pas?? that's my snobbery.
i jumped on no bandwagon . . . my bro got out of time when it
came out and, oui, i liked it for lmr and, oui, shiny happy. and then my
bro gave me automatic for christmas 91 [?], and i was hooked. i loved it
and then withing a year had all albums, and now i am on this group and
spend money on bootlegs and singles i don;t really need. =) but this
doesn't make me any *less* of a fan . . . trust me, i can have intense
conversations with *anyone* about what i love in this world so very
passionately . . . rem's music.
don't hold my age against me, and i won't hold yours against
you . . . maybe some of the thirtysomething crowd who heard them back in the
early 80's are just kidding themselves by listening to such a rockin'
band like rem . . . HA!!!!!! hey *kids*, rock and roll . . . =)=)=)
au revoir, yvette. =)
Paul Holmes
>From: as...@freenet.toronto.on.ca (Brett Slade)
>Subject: Re: Bang and Blame=Losing My Religion
>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 02:55:33 GMT
>Has anyone who really likes REM Im not talking about some 15yr old I mean some one who seen them at the concert hall in 86. Atrue fan will say this new cd sucksOh ya SMEG says bang/blame on this.
>--
>CYBERBRETT @ TOR FREENET
>
Listen you little TERD!!. None of us in South Africa have been fortunate
enough to see REM at any time so dont come with your childish attitude that
you actually are a true fan when you've seen them live. REM has a big
following here and I'm talking about a fanclub who've supported them from
chronic town to monster. We dig em all!!
hlh...@vaxa.isc.rit.edu
>>Has anyone who really likes REM Im not talking about some 15yr old I mean
>>some one who seen them at the concert hall in 86. Atrue fan will say this
>>new cd sucksOh ya SMEG says bang/blame on this.
>
>think people have to have seen R.E.M. live in '86 to be a freakin' fan.
>What are some other components of a "real fan" in your head? No really, I'm
>curious...
>
> Well gee, at least I'm older than 15...
>
>David
>
GOD DAVID, RELAX!! I'm 18 and I haven't seen REM live. Does that mean that I
am not a true fan? If all REM fans are as ignorant as you, then I don't want
to call myself a fan. However, I have been in this news group for a while and
I have only run across one. Yes, David. It's you.
David W. Perle
>>think people have to have seen R.E.M. live in '86 to be a freakin' fan.
>>What are some other components of a "real fan" in your head? No really,
>>I'm curious...
>>
>> Well gee, at least I'm older than 15...
>
>that I am not a true fan? If all REM fans are as ignorant as you, then I
>don't want to call myself a fan. However, I have been in this news group
>for a while and I have only run across one. Yes, David. It's you.
Whoa, whoa. What are you talking about? I was replying (very calmly, I
believe) to someone who believes that you're not a fan unless you saw them
live in '86. I don't fit that description, but I've been a fan for just
over a couple of years now, and I'm sticking up for people such as myself.
I'm 17 by the way. How am I ignorant? Did you misread what I said, or did
something come out wrong...seriously.
I was being sarcastic with that last part about how at least I'm older
than 15. Same way I talk about religious equality and end up with something
about how "maybe I'm just a dumb Jew..."
I know this doesn't really belong in the newsgroup...I just wanted to try
to clear my name in case something I said came out really wrong.
David
Rob Kingston
> One more thing I may be the only one who thinks so, but
> Strange Currencies and Tongue=Everybody Hurts?
strange currencies - are you *kidding*?
not just the same general chord structure but the same melody.
i still love it though - one of the best on monster after WTFK?
Rob Kingston Sheffield,UK
Adam Bucky
(Andrew Fung) wrote:
> In article <3f9pl5$i...@news.ycc.yale.edu>,
> Sol Kim <sol...@minerva.cis.yale.edu> wrote:
> >: Are you kidding me? *Similarity*? It's the same fucking song! The
verses
> >: >: have identical chord changes and melody!
> >: >
>
> Bang & Blame: Am G
>
> Losing My Religion: Am Em
>
> These two songs are NOT "the same fucking song." I feel a little saner now
> for being able to notice the similarities, but they're not the same chord
> progression. Close, and similar melodies, but the chorus is quite different.
> Both, IMHO, are quite good songs, though.
Of course they're not "the same fucking song," but Am G _is_ the same
progression as Am Em, because Em is the relative minor of G.
-Adam
Jessica Ross
I agree that Bang And Blame and Losing My Religion are not tthe
same, although i differ from most of the opinion here in that i really
don't see any similarities between the two at all. Bang And Blame is pure
and sexual power, while i see Religion as, well, kind of a happy little song.
I think Strange Currencies IS a lot like Everybody Hurts, but
there are enough chording differences to not call it a self-rip-off. The
mood is really the same. I see Tongue as the answer to New Orleans
Instrumental No.1 .
Derailer
>difference. One more thing I may be the only one who thinks so, but
>Strange Currencies and Tongue=Everybody Hurts?
I agree on Strange Currencies, for the most part- they're both in 6/8
time, I believe, and have the 4-note guitar thingy. But that's about all
I hear. Where did you get this idea about Tongue?
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LI W
: I agree that Bang And Blame and Losing My Religion are not tthe
: same, although i differ from most of the opinion here in that i really
: don't see any similarities between the two at all. Bang And Blame is pure
: and sexual power, while i see Religion as, well, kind of a happy little song.
A happy song?
I was following you up to that point, then ...
-william li
consultant-in-exile
Derailer
>strange currencies - are you *kidding*?
>not just the same general chord structure but the same melody.
>i still love it though - one of the best on monster after WTFK?
I also noticed that the chords are only played once then change on
Currencies, but they are played twice on Everybody Hurts.. just makes it
a faster song.
Derailer
> don't hold my age against me, and i won't hold yours against
>you . . . maybe some of the thirtysomething crowd who heard them back in the
>early 80's are just kidding themselves by listening to such a rockin'
>band like rem . . . HA!!!!!! hey *kids*, rock and roll . . . =)=)=)
I fall into the same group- I have all of the albums (most of em imported),
various boots, and loads of singles I don't need (oh, and books and
videos and stuff like that). I'm only 14 (maybe I posted 15 in a previous
post, but that was to enforce my point.. oh, bah, it's nothing). Though,
my friends, a lot of which who are REM fans and quite older than I am, don't
deny me as a fan- even ones who have more REM crap than I do.
Keltz
>After listening to Losing My Religion about 100 times in a row, I realized
>that despite numerous similarities there are many, many more differences.
>First LMR is a full of meaning where as even though I like Bang and Blame
>it is far simpler. Also there's no mandolin which does make a big
>difference. One more thing I may be the only one who thinks so, but
>Strange Currencies and Tongue=Everybody Hurts?
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I'm looking for an interuption, can you believe?
-REM, from Monster
Jessica Keltz - ke...@tioga.upb.pitt.edu
THE MICK
NO ONE CARES. If you like the music than just listen to it. Don't waste
our time and space with you self-righteous, patriotic I love Stipe
babble. Another thing, snobbery isn't a word. Get a clue, get a life
and get off these pathetic subjects because NO ONE CARES. For the sake of
the holy STIPE, grow up.
THE MICK
DECounts
>
> Losing My Religion: Am Em
actually, according to pbuck in some magazine, chords in B/B are weirdo
versions of Am and Em, so they are essentially the same as in LMR
DECounts
but it's just annoying now.