Oasis - Got a problem with that then, Stipe?
flame.me
So, Stipe-o... Stipester... Stipey, me old mucker...
I hear you've got a few opinions regarding our boys Oasis, something
along the lines of:
: Supersonic, what a joke,
: I don't see ya'
: Don't even wanna be ya'
Dunno if those are your precise words, 'cos I haven't exactly rushed
out to get your new album yet, but apparently that's the general gist
of it. Well, ooh dear, old chap... You probably didn't want to do
that.
We ain't got much to shout about over here in ol' Blighty: We're
dull, dirty, godless; our beer's warm, our Prime Minister's a twat and
our cows are crazy. BUT... One thing we're fiercely proud of is our
music. Britain always *has* produced the world's finest pop music and
always will, and woe betide anyone who comes up against our latest
icons. Remeber that 'ugly' little Jacko / Jarvis affair? While your
fella's lawyers were shrieking about litigation, this entire country
was pissing itself with laughter, we elevated our lad to folk hero
status.
Now, grandad, I can understand your being a little bitter about the
way Oasis sprung to superstardom straight from the pub gig circuit,
while in your case it took about nine years. But whining about the
throwaway nature of their lyrics, sounds a bit rich coming from the
Riddler himself. You see, we've got this *thing* over here, we call
it a sense of humour, you really ought to try it some time... It
allows one to blatently rip off riffs and vocals from classics and
write rhymes like:
: Your music's shite,
: It keeps me up all night...
(Granted, that type of language probably wouldn't get played on the
radio over there due to your country's rabid puritanical attitude).
But so long as it's all done with yer' tongue firmly in one cheek, the
punters will buy it, adore it, and sing along joyously at your gigs.
I'm not slating your country's music as a whole... You can and have
produced some fine bands - Cracker springs to mind - but whatever you
do, face it, we generally do better... It's more intimate, it shapes
our kids' lifestyles, defines our culture and we love it... Truly,
deeply and stickily.
Fine, you gave us rock 'n roll, but we shaved it's head, duffed it up
and called it Punk (and, boy, did that ever go over your heads). You
retaliated with Jon Bon Jovi's poodle haircuts, so we sent you The
Smiths (Fwooosh... oops, there goes another). And while you were all
busy going "whooo" and "awlraaaaht" at Maria Carey's "Whiney Whiney
Bleat Bleat" tour, we were crowd surfing to dozens of earnest, three
chords, heads down, and see-who-gets-to-the-end-of-the-song-first
guitar bands. And loving every minute of it.
You see, Michael, Oasis and their ilk are young and fresh, after the
droning shoe gazings YOU bunch of brontasauri have proffered lately,
it sounds pretty much like you've dried.
: ____________________________________________________________
:
: "Son, I'm thirty / I only went with your mother 'cos she's dirty"
: ____________________________________________________________
Ethan Kaplan
Michael Stipe has stated that the song The Wake Up Bomb is about a
glam-rock club in New York. He never made any mention of Oasis, and
supersonic has many meanings besides a song title by Oasis. Dig deeper into
the lyrics "I'd rather be anywhere, doing anything." And it almost seems
that the song is about high-school and disillusionment as well.
NOT OASIS.
Your precious band was not disparaged by Stipe.
Bye
Ethan
Peter Johnson
i can't believe i actually read this all the way through...woooooh...
anyway, i love british and american music....this happened a while back
on the oasis group...arguements with brits and americans...
i mean, i like REM, I like Oasis, I like the Bluetones and Radiohead..
etc. etc.
anyway...just my input
holli
"Look who bought the myth..." -REM
um...i guess that would be me...
holli johnson
pjoh...@cix.compulink.co.uk
herb (demetri)
uh...yeah...
first of all, i really hate replyin to these things, but give the man
some credit. he is awesome.
you don't see HIM sounding like the beatles, now, do you?
i am not saying that oasis is a patheticly horrible band, but they can be
at times. one song that doesn't come to mind is champagne supernova,. i
love that song.
oh yeah, oasis isn't a pthetic band (they are most of the time) but their
lyrics are. :)
oh yeah, i forgot that it was like, a law that you have to listen to them
in england, its the fad, i'm sorry...
(not, if you are english and don't like oasis, i'm sorry. i don't think
i have yet to find and englishman who doen't like them)
demetri (who thinks they are way-overpopular)
herb (demetri)
i am so sorry about my last post. i got mad when i read that.
i cooled down a bit, but do not want to read it again because then...;)
well, sorry for that,
demetri
God Save My Spleen
herb (demetri) (bink...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: you don't see HIM sounding like the beatles, now, do you?
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Werner Quadflieg
dav...@easynet.co.uk (flame.me) wrote:
>So, Stipe-o... Stipester... Stipey, me old mucker...
>I hear you've got a few opinions regarding our boys Oasis, something
>along the lines of:
>: Supersonic, what a joke,
>: I don't see ya'
>: Don't even wanna be ya'
>....
>You see, Michael, Oasis and their ilk are young and fresh, after the
>droning shoe gazings YOU bunch of brontasauri have proffered lately,
>it sounds pretty much like you've dried.
What's all that crap about? And where did you get it from? You should
read what rem have to say about wake-up bomb.
Peter Buck: *Michael wrote that particular song about a club in New
York that the new glam crowd hang at. All those young pretty boy
models and pretty girl models, showing up and dressed up like it
was 1972. He wrote it about that club.*
Not one damn word about Oasis. Between the lines of your lousy job
it's pretty obvious that you can't cope with the fact that British pop
history is written in the past tense.
we q
Malcolm Whale
herb (demetri) wrote:
>
> uh...yeah...
>
> first of all, i really hate replyin to these things, but give the man
> some credit. he is awesome.
>
>
> at times. one song that doesn't come to mind is champagne supernova,. i
> love that song.
>
> oh yeah, oasis isn't a pthetic band (they are most of the time) but their
> lyrics are. :)
>
> oh yeah, i forgot that it was like, a law that you have to listen to them
> in england, its the fad, i'm sorry...
>
> (not, if you are english and don't like oasis, i'm sorry. i don't think
> i have yet to find and englishman who doen't like them)
>
> demetri (who thinks they are way-overpopular)
I'm English and I don't like Oasis. Sure a couple of songs off their
last album are ok, but the band as a whole are way over-rated. Everytime
you pick up a paper theres some journalistic crap about the brothers
Gallagher. Noel said this, Liam did that. I don't bloody care!!!
They've only released 2 albums and the British Music Press are all on
there knees. Well I'm sorry, it takes more than a couple of average
albums to "The Biggest Band since the Beatles" in my book.
Will Oasis last as long as REM has?, will they release as many classic
albums? Perhaps, but I doubt it.
Malcolm.
PS.....I normally don't post much, but this thing is pissing me off.
MLewis2707
From: dav...@easynet.co.uk (flame.me)
>>>So, Stipe-o... Stipester... Stipey, me old mucker...
I hear you've got a few opinions regarding our boys Oasis, (snip)
Now, grandad, I can understand your being a little bitter about the
way Oasis sprung to superstardom straight from the pub gig circuit,
while in your case it took about nine years. (snippity snip)
I'm not slating your country's music as a whole... You can and have
produced some fine bands - (more snippage for brevities sake)
Fine, you gave us rock 'n roll, but we shaved it's head, duffed it up
and called it Punk (and, boy, did that ever go over your heads). You
retaliated with Jon Bon Jovi's poodle haircuts, so we sent you The
Smiths (Fwooosh... oops, there goes another). And while you were all
busy going "whooo" and "awlraaaaht" at Maria Carey's "Whiney Whiney
Bleat Bleat" tour, we were crowd surfing to dozens of earnest, three
chords, heads down, and see-who-gets-to-the-end-of-the-song-first
guitar bands. And loving every minute of it.
You see, Michael, Oasis and their ilk are young and fresh, after the
droning shoe gazings YOU bunch of brontasauri have proffered lately,
it sounds pretty much like you've dried.<<<<<<
Actually, Stipe has said that the song is about his days as a teenager,
coping an attitude and briefly liking glam rock. He also was inspired by
recently seeing teens at a "glam rock" themed night at some night club.
For the record,
"See Ya, don't wanna be ya" is an old phrase used by young male teens in
the
'70s as a sort of cock-walk putdown. I also think the song reflects on
Stipe's changing attitudes towards what he finds important over the years
and the vapidness of being a teen idol.
As for Stipe vrs Oasis, if the band is only doing limited promotion the
music
press is bound to come up with something about REM to talk about. Hence
we get all this bullshit about Stipe and Oasis and essays explaining why
the
band is about to break up (which explains why they just signed a new 5
album
deal with Warners - not).
Stipe is very encouraging of new bands, as are all of the members of REM.
They aren't jealous of anyone's success. (But then they did just sign for
the highest paying record deal of all time.) I'm sure Stipe would be a big
supporter of Oasis if they were a hipper band. I know he loves the better
British bands.
As for this crap about English music vrs US music - well it's a load of
crap. The rock'n'roll music of both countries intertwine quite nicely.
Both countries have had bands that have shook up and greatly affected the
sound of rock'n'roll. Choosing the r'n'r artists of only one country to
like would be greatly limiting your enjoyment of some great music. (And
the word "punk" for rock was stolen by McLaren from a famous magazine that
chronicalled punk predecessors Patti Smith, Richard Hell, and countless
others that had short hairs cuts and a punk attitude before McLaren
manufactured the Sex Pistols as the Monkees of this new movement.)
It is a bogus argument to take the worst of one country and compare it to
some of the better bands of another. (Not that Houston's mainstream pap
can be correctly called r'nr.)
As for Stipe's age - big deal! The important thing is that he and R.E.M.
are still making vital great music. For pathetic old losers who used to be
incredible take a look at your countrymen The Rolling Stones. I doubt that
R.E.M. would ever be apathetic enough to just roll around raking in dough
after their love of music and ability to play has long left them. But
hopefully they will continue to be great performers as long they can
manage to hold on to their instruments like BB King and some other great,
but sort of elderly, performers.
Your argument about age only works for shallow, MTV generation fans who
only care about identifying themselves with the latest thing and moving on
quickly (short attention spans bred by MTV and it's ilk in other
countries) to the next latest thing. That has nothing to do with real
music appreciation and I don't consider people who are only searching for
the latest fad true music fans.
rebecca lewis
sm...@panix.com
"the former emma"
Dezbot
In article <4vmao6$k...@cherry.easynet.co.uk>, dav...@easynet.co.uk
(flame.me) writes: >>Fine, you gave us rock 'n roll, but we shaved it's
head, duffed it up and called it Punk (and, boy, did that ever go over
your heads).<<
listen, you rancid little ditch-pig wanker TROLL, *we* gave you Punk in
the form of the Ramones, Patti Smith, Television, the New York Dolls, all
of whom pre-date the Sex Pistols (whom i happen to like and will probably
see on their tour) and their British ilk....so toss off before i grind you
under my steel-toed shite-kickers..... :P
dez
who actually likes Oasis, but thinks the Gallagher bros. are wretched
little twats, and so, when she got their cd's, bought them USED so that
Oasis gets NO MONEY from her, bwahhahhhahhaaAAAA!!! =D
"and you will know my name is the Lord when i lay my vengeance upon
thee!"--Jules in _Pulp Fiction_
a pistol-hot cup of Dez....
Name Withheld Upon Request
>who actually likes Oasis, but thinks the Gallagher bros. are wretched
>little twats, and so, when she got their cd's, bought them USED so that
>Oasis gets NO MONEY from her, bwahhahhhahhaaAAAA!!! =D
...say, i did the same thing..
don
Dezbot
I don't know if this is on the newsgroup or not, but i received this
really rude piece of email i thought i'd share with y'all:
>>From: ju...@srv1.far.ir
Errrrr, in case you failed to notice, or just like to flame, punk as in
Ramones/Dolls etc is a totally different offering from punk as in
Pistols/Scarlet. Trying to put them in the same ilk is like trying to
throw
AC/DC and The Stones in there and call them both Rock N' Roll.. Sure they
both
conform to Rock N' Roll, blues in rock but who the fuck would try to
compare
their music on the same plain?
The real problem here is that the majority of American and English have
this ego trip on how fuckin superior they are as a race, well wake up call
neither of ye are a race, and neither are superior, who can say what is a
better band, its like trying to say who's the best man for the job, in the
majority of cases its not the bloke who has it....
J
p.s also this the REM group so fuck off.<<
1) Errr, in case you failed to notice, the original poster claimed
England *invented* punk. i was just setting the wanker straight. it has
nothing to do with who is superior as a *race* (and if you knew anything
about America, you'd know how problematic the term *race* is, and that
there's no such thing as an "American race").
2) No DUHHH this is the R.E.M. group. you obviously have no freaking
clue who you're talking to, so i suggest strongly that you shut up now.
btw, your rude little email was reported to your postmaster. DON'T EVER
EMAIL ME AGAIN.
Dezbot
In article <4vq3jb$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mlewi...@aol.com
(MLewis2707) writes: <snip to appease server gods>: >>Your argument about
age only works for shallow, MTV generation fans who only care about
identifying themselves with the latest thing and moving on quickly (short
attention spans bred by MTV and it's ilk in other countries) to the next
latest thing. That has nothing to do with real music appreciation and I
don't consider people who are only searching for the latest fad true music
fans.<<
very well said, Rebecca (all of it, actually)! :) let me chime in a
little about this last point of yours. last night, i saw the Sex Pistols
(great concert, great band--and hey, i was only in 7th grade the last time
they played the U.S., so if you think i'm trendy, sod off--i've been
waiting 20 years for this!) *ahem* sorry i digressed again.... anyway,
Johnny, addressing the crowd re: his age--only 40, not quite a geezer,
IMHO--said that we (the audience) should ignore MTV and its spew about the
"generation gap," as he felt great being 40, and that good music is
basically "timeless" and should be appreciated by all ages. he also
pointed out that Michael Jackson, friend to children everywhere, is only
two years younger than he is, yet no one accuses MJ of being a "geezer"
(they accuse him of other things, but not that!).
um, R.E.M. content: so Peter's only one year younger than Johnny, and the
rest of the boys are in their 30's, and still making vital, relevant
music, so um, stick that in your pot bong and smoke it, kiddies...... ;)
dez
ANARCHY!!! (hee hee hee)
Lanz, Sara Ann
Oh! That was the funniest thing I've read on here in a long time! I love that
the poster used the alias of "flame.me"! And even better, I think it was a
serious post! Hahahaha! Boy! That was a hoot! I'm very sorry, though, for
Europeans who only hear "popular" American music because there's a lot more to
American music than Miriah Carey, just like there's a lot more to British music
than Oasis. I don't know why people insist on putting geographical
boundaries on music and claim it as their own (or not someone else's) to enjoy.
Music cannot be caged. That's the beauty of it.
-SA "I'd like to teach the world to sing" ;)
Lindsay Milligan
OK Flame me, I'm sure you've probably gotten enough hate mail over this
aready. And maybe you now beleive that it wasn't about Oasis.
But I just wanted to point out. And this is acutally a question too. How
can you, and all English people say that Oasis are do great? Maybe this
hasn't gotten to you, but among all the stupid things they've said, one of
them was along the lines of "If english music was any good we'd be proud
to bring attention too it, but it's not, it's shite. We're the only good
ones out there." That's not a direct qoute, it's along the lines, but
the meaning is the same.
I agree thay've got some good songs, but they're not what I'd wanted to be
represented by. Every two second s they're getting in trouble, saying
something stupid.
Now I don't know of many English groups, we don't tend to see a lot of
them in Canada. But I'm pretty confident in saying that there must be
other good groups.
-Lindsay
PS. I'm not a member of the MTV generation, I don't get MTV.
PPS. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm putting down Canada or any other
country. That is not my intention.
PPPS. I don't think Oasis should not have opinions, we are all intitled
to them, but to say that these are great people is wrong, because (IMHO)
they aren't.
PPPPS. Please, you can reply to this post, but there's no need for hate mail.
PPPPPS. Just thought I'd put in another PS. =)
Mike Fay
Lindsay Milligan wrote:
[snip]
> How
> can you, and all English people say that Oasis are great? Maybe this
> hasn't gotten to you, but among all the stupid things they've said, one of
> them was along the lines of "If english music was any good we'd be proud
> to bring attention too it, but it's not, it's shite. We're the only good
> ones out there."
Just because Liam Gallagher is an arrogant, half-witted, cocaine
addicted ****wit, it doesn't mean that Oasis don't play great music. If
you expect all your singers to be angels, what do you end up with? (Sir
Cliff Richards????)
Mike
Jay B.
dez...@aol.com wrote:
>this ego trip on how fuckin superior they are as a race
****
Just thought you should know we are the same race.. we came from the
same place, and well anyway... the only difference between us is our
accents.
Cyborg 003
Greg Allum wrote:
>
> Geeez
>
> I hate to admit it but....I am from the same country as this dick is
> from!!!
> It's funny but didn't oasis rip off REM's The one i love for their song
> morning glory!
> And wasn't it oasis who would only support REM and not David Bowie last
> year!
> Also its a shame you get your political views from Oasis as well.
>
> Do REM associate themselves with Jackson et al ?
> I don't think so Matey!
>
> Finally, if it wasn't for REM there wouldn't be anywhere for Alternative
> bands such as Oasis on the Radio and MTV
> REM opened the door for your idols!
> So errrrr, get a life!
>
> P.S
>
> Kula Shaker are the best English band.......They can play their instruments
> properly......unlike Noel and that crappy singer Liam!
you know...if noel and liam weren't such self-centered jerks, i think
more people (like me, for instance) would find their music enjoyable. i
mean, it doesn't approach the level of talent exhibited by rem, but it's
pretty sweet pop-candy.
but every time i read an oasis interview, or hear comments made by their
egomaniac front-men, i have a stronger desire to use oasis cds for
batting practice....
cmg
Greg Allum
Alison
i do not think oasis would be much at all if not for their attitudes.
britain is different in what it requires of its popstars. that fuckoff
attitude is an ideal. the beatles told the press to "piss off" on
occasion. but, relly, i cannot see why anyone would want it any
different. the gallaghers, damon from blur, jarvis from pulp can all be
such arrogant bastards. and i think that rules; it is attractive beyond
belief--as a stance,as an accessory.
i would think,however, that m.stipe would have to be down with it all.
part of his image is that he can't be, but, on a more genuine level he
must be. he pulls arrogant-image shit all of the time. he is as much an
actor as anyone. i mean, he perpetrated so much new style with the
monster tour and in all of the publicity shit.
flame.me
Lindsay Milligan wrote:
>....among all the stupid things they've said, one of
>them was along the lines of "If english music was any good we'd be proud
>to bring attention too it, but it's not, it's shite. We're the only good
>ones out there."
>....
>I agree thay've got some good songs, but they're not what I'd wanted to be
>represented by. Every two second s they're getting in trouble, saying
>something stupid.
>
Ah... Now we're getting into a different territory: Whether a
band's perceived image should have any effect on their popularity.
Just because the Gallagher boys are undoubtably complete and utter
tossers (English phrase - i'm not sure if it means the same thing over
there), should the enjoyment of their music be in any way lessend? I
know not everyone feels this way, but to me the music comes
foremost... It's probably a British thing, since traditionally our
pop stars are arrogant little pillocks, if we all disliked them for
their attitude we wouldn't *have* a music industry.
Don't forget, also, the press just laps up controversy (where do you
think I got the story that Michael Stipe is jealous of Oasis in the
first place?), and since another favourite passtime of British bands
IS winding up the press - you *have* to with the tabloids over here,
or they make it up any way - most of the direct quotes you read about
our bands should be taken with a large pinch of salt.
PS. Just be glad we sent Shampoo to Japan, you lot would never
have forgiven us for them...
PPS. Mind you, we DID palm you off with Tracy Ullman, didn't we?
PPPS. Oh, and John Lennon, but you guys shot him any way so that
doesn't count.
: ____________________________________________________________
:
: "Tore up all your photos / didn't feel too cleaver
: spent the whole of sunday / sticking you together"
: ____________________________________________________________
Jens Petersen
> > Kula Shaker are the best English band.......They can play their instruments
> > properly......unlike Noel and that crappy singer Liam!
YEPP!
KULA SHAKER RULZ!!!!!
jENS
Joey Kreidel
I think Oasis is a good band, but I lost a lot of respect for them once
Morning Glory hit in big. After Definitely Maybe they were exact
opposites of the people they are now. In interviews they said they
depised arrogant 'pop stars, a word they took offense to, but are now
atypical members of the group.
To compare Oasis to REM ( and espescially to claim that Stipe is
jealous ) is ludicrous to the nth degree, and if anything should embarras
those Brit punks. Oasis isn't even half the band they claim to be, while
claiming to be 'bigger than the Beatles', when they should be saying
'wer'e almost as good as Blur, does that count?".
Joey Odorisio
Hey, Stipey`s had a problem with Oasis for years, check out We Walk.
:)
"Take oasis..."
Chaos Harlequin
RGJ...@prodigy.com (Joey Odorisio) wrote:
>"Take oasis..."
Yeah, "Take oasis" as in, "Take Oasis back, you dumb-as-dirt-Brits!"
JMS was predicting the badness of Oasis 13 years in the future! :)
/----------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner----------------------------\
| part...@servtech.com http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/ |
| "I spend too much time raiding windmills. We go side by side, laugh until |
\-------it's right." Toad The Wet Sprocket, "Windmills"---------------------/
Joey Odorisio
>> Hey, Stipey`s had a problem with Oasis for years, check out We
Walk.
>>:)
>
>>"Take oasis..."
>
>Yeah, "Take oasis" as in, "Take Oasis back, you dumb-as-dirt-Brits!"
>JMS was predicting the badness of Oasis 13 years in the future! :)
Heh, and I know he used the word in another song but I really can`t
remember which one.
Silje Birknes
It's Texarkana
Jeff Lunger
Silje Birknes <tbir...@sn.no> wrote:
>It's Texarkana
Yeah, but I think Mills actually wrote the lyrics to that one. "20,000
miles to an oasis" as in "stay at least 20,000 miles away". They all
knew!
-jeff
gracie
On 25 Aug 1996 14:03:57 -0400, dez...@aol.com (Dezbot) wrote:
>
>listen, you rancid little ditch-pig wanker TROLL, *we* gave you Punk in
>the form of the Ramones, Patti Smith, Television, the New York Dolls, all
>of whom pre-date the Sex Pistols (whom i happen to like and will probably
>see on their tour) and their British ilk....so toss off before i grind you
>under my steel-toed shite-kickers..... :P
New York Dolls ruled... they were by far the first punk band... bar
none. Besides... the sex pistols were designed as a clothing
advertisement... Malcolm McLaren owns the rights to everything that
band ever did... right down to the name... Johnny Rotten... why else
do you think lyndon didn't use it with PIL.(which is still the best
band to clean your house to)
steve jaros
3 points:
1) sorry, but british punk was better....american punk was just rehashed
sixties surf rock and garage rock (beach boys, troggs, etc.) - nothing
new. british punk was wild and dangerously political, and that's why it
was more influential...the ramones, cheetah chrome, johnny thunders,
etc. can whine all they want, but there are -good reasons- why british
punk ruled, then and now....
2) sid vicious -wild, self destructive, and unmusical- the very
embodiment of punk! unlike the american posers, HE didn't get out of
punk alive....
3) AS for that crap about us punk pre-dating britidh punk, that's
nonsense..no one can pinpoint when punk started. i think some old alice
cooper tunes like "18" and "school's out" are punk, and that's 2 or 3
years before the Doll's, ramones, etc....
jennifer bowser
In <32374E...@ix.netcom.com> steve jaros <sja...@ix.netcom.com>
writes:
UMMM HELLO!?!?!?!?!!??!! POSERS??? Sid Vicious was the EMBODIMENT of
poser! Ever read Johnny Rotten's book? Sid was a follower, a
tag-along. He would have to be more skilled to even play SHITTY! Glen
Matlock was a much better bassist. Even his former band-mates agree.
Sid is dead. Johnny lives. And I'm not even going to get into the
NY/London punk arguement. Oh yeah, and I clean my house to PIL too.
:D
-JeN
E...@my.ass.com
>
>PPPS. Oh, and John Lennon, but you guys shot him any way so that
>doesn't count.
>
>
>
>
>: ____________________________________________________________
>:
>: "Tore up all your photos / didn't feel too cleaver
>: spent the whole of sunday / sticking you together"
>: ____________________________________________________________
>
>
>
YEAH,...ALL WE NEED ARE THREE MORE BULLETS,....
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE--
YOU ARE ALL FUCKED ANYWAY,...THE PRESS, THE BANDS,... THEY PLAY YOU
LIKE HARPS, AND YOU FEED ON IT,...WAKE THE HELL UP AND SMELL THE
"BLOODY" COFFEE--
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT REALLY MAKE WHAT MICHAEL STIPE THINKS,...OR
WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS FOR THAT MATTER--
GET REAL
life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness,...
It is truly amazing the difference that one word can make
steve jaros
sorry jen, but johnny lydon and the rest of the surviving pistols have a
vested interest (the money grubbing tour) to slag vicious, and what does
vicious' skill as a bass player have to do with his standing as a punk
icon? BTW vicious was actually a pretty decent drummer...Unlike the
other pistols, vicious LIVED punk, and he paid a heavy price for doing
so, that's why he's not around for the "reunion" tour....
jennifer bowser
In <3237B4...@ix.netcom.com> steve jaros <sja...@ix.netcom.com>
writes:
Johnny knew what a poser Sid was, BEFORE he died. So much for that
theory. Sid did and acted anyway someone told him, and merely mimmicked
the other punks in England. He got his clothes from that expensive SEX
shop. That isn't very punk. And if I hear someone say that Sid was
'THE SEX PISTOLS' then I'll clock 'em.
Oscar Oberg
steve jaros (sja...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: 1) sorry, but british punk was better....american punk was just rehashed
: sixties surf rock and garage rock (beach boys, troggs, etc.) - nothing
: new. british punk was wild and dangerously political, and that's why it
: was more influential...the ramones, cheetah chrome, johnny thunders,
: etc. can whine all they want, but there are -good reasons- why british
: punk ruled, then and now....
Either way, swedish punk is better than both american and english. :)
Oscar
Werner Quadflieg
jlu...@itw.com (Jeff Lunger) wrote:
>Yeah, but I think Mills actually wrote the lyrics to that one. "20,000
>miles to an oasis" as in "stay at least 20,000 miles away". They all
>knew!
>-jeff
as there's no place on earth where you can stay 20.000 miles away from
an oasis, does it mean oasis got to be orbited 20.000 miles above the
earth? :-)
we q
Alastair Mark Wilson
Oasis can't get their act together so they have cancelled their Australian
tour. Pommie Wankers.
Chaos Harlequin
WQuad...@t-online.de (Werner Quadflieg) wrote:
>jlu...@itw.com (Jeff Lunger) wrote:
>>Yeah, but I think Mills actually wrote the lyrics to that one. "20,000
>>miles to an oasis" as in "stay at least 20,000 miles away". They all
>>knew!
>as there's no place on earth where you can stay 20.000 miles away from
>an oasis, does it mean oasis got to be orbited 20.000 miles above the
>earth? :-)
I think it's a secret message saying that we should launch Oasis (who
have, quite sadly, not broken up) into outer space. :)
/---------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner---------------------------\
| part...@servtech.com http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/ |
| "And I see nations playfully hurl snowballs packed with stone and clay."|
\--------------XTC, "You And The Clouds Will Still Be Beautiful"----------/