Ziggy Marley item in Sunday LATimes
Sparrow Fallen
ZIGGY ZAGS: Ziggy Marley has rarely stuck to a strict reggae formula in
his work with the Melody Makers, the group that also features his brother
Stephen and sisters Cedella and Sharon. But for his next album, this son of
Bob Marley is taking a radical turn.
Working without his siblings for the first time, he enlisted rock
producer Scott Litt and is exploring some new territory, with Flea of the
Red Hot Chili Peppers playing bass on most songs and guitarist Mike Einziger
and DJ Kilmore of Incubus contributing to recent sessions at a Beverly Hills
studio.
"It's more rock, not refined--pretty raw," Ziggy Marley says. "This
album will be surprising to a lot of people, especially those who still
think of me as sounding like Bob Marley. There's a song on the album called
'I Get Out,' and that's what the song is saying--I will get out of the boxes
people put me in. I want to mess with people's minds sometimes.
"Even my own people, Jamaicans, sometimes they don't like when I do
different things. The roots of my stuff is reggae, my tradition. But I
remember when that was new music, it was different stuff."
The album is due Aug. 27, the first for Marley under a new contract
with RCA/Victor. He'll be previewing some of the new material while on tour
as part of a package that includes Sheryl Crow and Train in July and August.
The tour stops July 27 at the Verizon Wireless Amphitheater in Irvine.
Here's the URL:
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Sparrow Fallen
Ras Mikael Enoch
> Working without his siblings for the first time, he enlisted rock
>producer Scott Litt and is exploring some new territory, with Flea of the
>Red Hot Chili Peppers playing bass on most songs and guitarist Mike Einziger
>and DJ Kilmore of Incubus contributing to recent sessions at a Beverly Hills
>studio.
Shouldn't it be written ?:
"Rock producer Scott Litt enlisted Ziggy Marley"
?
The Red Hot Chili Peppers ?
That would be the homosexual rock group who recently did
a disturbing and revolting song and video called:
'Californication'
From Satanist Faggot Mick Jagger,
to fellow satanist Keith Richards,
now with Ziggy and the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Done with reggae,
Ziggy wants to do rock music now,
with queers like 'Flea'.
______________________
Ras Mikael Enoch
http://www.exorcist.ws
Scott Litt enlisted
Ziggy Marley
Ras Mikael Enoch
> Working without his siblings for the first time, he enlisted rock
>producer Scott Litt and is exploring some new territory, with Flea of the
>Red Hot Chili Peppers playing bass on most songs
Okay, here is the real deal on: FLEA
http://www.amiannoyingornot.com/view.asp?ID=2658
So glad that Ziggy Marley is collaborating with
white homosexuals like Flea, who has worked with
'PORNO FOR PYROS' also.
Great,
along with the Babylon Revlon 'Cover Girl' make-up
commercial that Ziggy Marley sang on, its re-assuring
to see that Ziggy is now working with such queers [rock],
INSTEAD OF JAMAICANS.
I don't like fleas, or other blood-sucking insects.
Flea wants to suck on Ziggy, like the rest of the
queers in the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Ras Mikael Enoch
> Working without his siblings for the first time, he enlisted rock
>producer Scott Litt and is exploring some new territory, with Flea of the
>Red Hot Chili Peppers playing bass on most songs
Okay, here is the real deal on: FLEA
http://www.amiannoyingornot.com/view.asp?ID=2658
Flea the queer guy rarely wears clothes when he performs.
Is that the type of concert Ziggy is doing nowadays ?
Honestly I haven't seen Ziggy in years.
Gay nudes like FLEA doing their thing on stage ?
http://rhcprock.free.fr/robbsphotos/images/rhcpa9.jpg
http://www.babyjaneofhollywood.com/flean04.jpg
Flea is a real deal ANAL QUEER,
as you can see by the pictures.
Good move Ziggy, the new "Wailers" have never been more
bizarre and queer - Ziggy's new regGAY.
XAC
makes Jesus cry.
In article <adg5p...@drn.newsguy.com>, Ras Mikael Enoch says...
reggaemon1212
You rantings make this board, others try to make worthwhile, a joke.
I guess you believe you can influence the massives from this board to
start criticizing Ziggy's new music even before anything has been
released. What's your motive anyway? Do you need to have the stage
ALL the time?
I am beginning to believe your name is not Mikael but Mik(HELL).
Remember to Judge Not.
Ras Mikael Enoch <Ras_m...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<adg6s...@drn.newsguy.com>...
Ras Mikael Enoch
>
>I believe Flea has a wife and kids. RME, why do you gossip and lie? you know it
>makes Jesus cry.
First of all, his name was NEVER "Jesus",
so I suggest that you take your latin title
and stick it somewhere else. Lord, you
don't even know what God's name is.
Try Y'shua for once, eh?
Second having a wife and kids doesn't mean a
damn thing. Anyone who cares to do a surface
study of "Flea" will know that he usually always
is nude on stage....not to mention his work with
'Porno For Pyros'...and every single perverted
homosexual image and vibe that they have tried
to promote.
Y'shua cries that the people like you are lost,
and don't even know his Hebrew name !!!!!
"Jesus" ?
The easiest way to determine half-witted "Christians",
is by their titles and rituals of Babylon origination.
Nude "Flea", like a flea is a blood sucker and probably
wants to suck on Ziggy too.
Ziggy's Rock Collaboration Queer Mess !
Ras Mikael Enoch
XAC wrote something:
> [snipped]
Yeah sure XAC, go and take a good look at 'FLEA':
http://www.babyjaneofhollywood.com/flean04.jpg
Can Ziggy do anything right nowadays ?
Now hooking up with such a queer DISGUSTING stage persona
as 'FLEA'.
XAC, there are many other shots of 'FLEA' available,
if the butt shot isn't enough proof of the freaky
faggot scene that Ziggy has now latched onto.
Ras Mikael Enoch
says...
>
>Mikael,
>
>You rantings make this board, others try to make worthwhile, a joke.
>I guess you believe you can influence the massives from this board to
>start criticizing Ziggy's new music even before anything has been
>released. What's your motive anyway? Do you need to have the stage
>ALL the time?
>
>I am beginning to believe your name is not Mikael but Mik(HELL).
>
>Remember to Judge Not.
Go and suck up to Ziggy and 'Flea'.
Flea is posing for you:
http://www.babyjaneofhollywood.com/flean04.jpg
Ziggy and his Babylon Revlon Cover Girl make-up disaster,
now with a total reprobate FREAKY FAG.
It is no different from the Grateful Dead / Warlocks thing.
Stupid reggae acts are joining lock-stock-and-barrel with
the most depraved images and vibes outside of Jamaican
culture.
What next ?
http://www.babyjaneofhollywood.com/flean04.jpg
Ras Mikael Enoch
>
>In article <49ea4f05.02060...@posting.google.com>, gm...@yahoo.com
>says...
>>
>>Mikael,
>>
>>You rantings make this board, others try to make worthwhile, a joke.
>>I guess you believe you can influence the massives from this board to
>>start criticizing Ziggy's new music even before anything has been
>>released. What's your motive anyway? Do you need to have the stage
>>ALL the time?
And by the way,
when His Majesty Ziggurat Marley came to the Bay Area,
he snubbed all of the local non-commercial radio hosts
years ago, wanting only to talk with commercial people.
Well, Ziggy can take his leather budweider make-up and
queer fags like Flea, and go play in Babylon,
like he is used to doing so already.
What next ?
And no, his short show isn't work $30-00 a head.
Ras Mikael Enoch
Right now I got some red cabbage a stewin,
and some tater tots a bakin',
and I am laughing at the thought of Ziggy Marley
and the Melody Makers on stage, and 'Flea' totally
nude on stage doing this:
> http://www.babyjaneofhollywood.com/flean04.jpg
Is Ziggy Marley working with Hedonism and the other
nudist vacation retreats in Jamaica, or what ?
I like going nude in the wilderness, like any naturalist,
butt doing it on stage and that butt thing is totally
bizarre.
What the hell is going on here ?
Ziggy Marley doing the song '666' and "Flea" gyrating
his naked ass towards you on stage.
Oh my God !
Sébastien Billard
Him was there before there was hebrews and an hebrew language as He is
the Alpha and the Omega.
Names are an human things and can change according to cultures even if
the reality remains the same.
BLESSED
FRENCH DREAD
www.earthcultureroots.com
GypsyDread
Akee123
will surely not do well (hope I'm wrong). Beautiful Day was an attempt at
easy rock for those stations which play Sheryl Crow, Sting, Counting Crows, . .
. etc. Did not work. I like how the other Marley's are attempting to reach
other audiences via rap/R&B. Funny how Ziggy and Stpehen seem to differ on
this approach.
Why doesn't Ziggy just hire Sly&Robbie like No Doubt, and sing over some new
and exciting riddims?
Cool Vibes,
Rob
reggaemon1212
vibes or non-Reggae vibes, the record company did not provide a lot of
support, so you can't just blame Ziggy. Even Damian Marley's effort
to reach "other audiences via rap/R&B" has NOT generated a lot of
sales. In case you haven't noticed, Motown has not put a lot support
behind that project either. Are you going to consider Damian
desperate also?
No Doubt has tremendous support from their label, their videos get
played on MTV and VH1, and their music gets high rotation at Top 40
radio. With that kind of marketing just about any act has a real
shot.
We don't know how much support Ziggy's new record label will provide,
but many artists make good music that goes unheard because they just
don't get marketing $$s to push their product. All Reggae artists are
aware of this. I give Ziggy credit for continuing to make
music(whatever flavor) in spite of the craziness of the game. Some
people get dispondent and give up.
Peace
ake...@aol.com (Akee123) wrote in message news:<20020604195711...@mb-fm.aol.com>...
Akee123
vibes or non-Reggae vibes, the record company did not provide a lot of
support, so you can't just blame Ziggy. Even Damian Marley's effort
to reach "other audiences via rap/R&B" has NOT generated a lot of
sales. In case you haven't noticed, Motown has not put a lot support
behind that project either. Are you going to consider Damian
desperate also? >>
I'll preface this by stating I like Ziggy a lot. But. . .. "Spirit of Music"
did not deserve much label support- it was a weak output from a talented
individual. Though sales for Damien's are not high- he at least has created a
'buzz" for himself and his record which should help him on future releases.
Cool Vibes,
Rob
MJKuelker
>did not deserve much label support- it was a weak output from a talented
>individual.
I think several people on RMR posted this kind of opinion about Spirit of
Music, but personally, I was happy to hear a change. I don't know that I'd say
any Melody Makers albums compel me from front to back like a Bob Marley album
does, but I can always find a handful of songs that my ears adhere to and that
provide me lasting pleasure.
Spirit of Music starts brilliantly as far as I'm concerned with the blues song
'Keep My Faith' (the cameo by Taj Mahal is very nice); reggae and blues have a
lot of affinities.
Anyway, the rock music tilt of the new Ziggy may or may not be a tremendous
departure from at least some of what we have heard in the past, such as 'Power
to Move You'. I'm interested in taking a close listen to what the group deal
out.
Ashanti
good music != crappy ziggy cross-over tunes.
timothy h brooks
Ashanti <Ash...@fiyabun.com> wrote in message
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Quadzo
"I like how the other Marley's are attempting to reach
other audiences via rap/R&B. Funny how Ziggy and Stpehen seem to differ on
this approach".
Stephen produced those other Marley albums you are talking about.....
Greetings!
ake...@aol.com (Akee123) wrote in message news:<20020604195711...@mb-fm.aol.com>...
MELODYMAKERS.de
"MJKuelker" wrote
> I'm interested in taking a close listen to what the group deal out.
The album will be Ziggy's solo debut. The Melody Makers are not involved.
Good Vibes
Julian
http://www.MELODYMAKERS.de - THE MARLEY FAMILY FANPAGE
ADJ
"Ras Mikael Enoch" <Ras_m...@newsguy.com> schreef in bericht
news:adgvf...@drn.newsguy.com...
study of "Flea" will know that he usually always
is nude on stage...
So?
U like to run around naked to, no big deal
Sparrow Fallen
My advice to Ziggy (as if he's really looking for it): if you're going to do
the folk/acoustic stuff, listen to, and learn from, the best. Dylan, the
Stanley Brothers, early delta blues, etc. Also, work on the lyrics. Your
current ones sound too strained/formulaic. You gotta go for that poetic,
unexpected route. Once again, Dylan, Tom Waites, Cobain etc. THEN, go back
and thoroughly digest Count Ossie's "Groundation." Shake, don't stir.
Serve chilled. Should come out just about right ;-)
hope that helps, Sparrow Fallen
"Akee123" <ake...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Bjahn1
vibes or non-Reggae vibes, the record company did not provide a lot of
support, so you can't just blame Ziggy. >>
<< We don't know how much support Ziggy's new record label will provide,
but many artists make good music that goes unheard because they just
don't get marketing $$s to push their product. >>
I asked Stephen M the question before about why all the label changes with ZMMM
and one LP deals..... he said " unlike many I(we) are in a position that I
don't care if the record company likes it, they come to us looking for a deal
to put out a record, I don't do it for the money, I don't need the money, I'm
rich already"
Bjahn1
>>
I don't care for "most" of ZMMM CD's, I only own a few...... BUT they do put on
one of the best live shows in reggae IMO, and have the tightest band! I usualy
never miss a live show .....
Bjahn1
The album will be Ziggy's solo debut. The Melody Makers are not involved.
>>
True Zig has been trying to distance himself for a while from the MM .... will
be interesting to see how it goes or how he is accepted solo
LTaubman
Ras Mikael Enoch
Excuse Me ?
I don't get up on stage and show the crack of my ass
towards the crowd like Flea does, as he usually always
performs naked. That butt thing is disgusting.
http://www.babyjaneofhollywood.com/flean04.jpg
Flea states: "took off my pants and felt
free, the wind blowing up
the canyon and up me".
I can do without his "canyon" [ass] thanks !!!
Someone stated:
"Waching a greased-up Anthony and Flea is not fun for me.
I've already accepted that I have to look at them without
their clothes on, constantly, because Flea doesn't own
any shirts, but they don't have to be all greased up."
Some additional comments about 'Flea' of "Porno For Pyros",
and "The Red Hot Chili Peppers":
> I can't help but notice all the homosexual inuendo. I'm not sure
> if this means that they are gay or just making some sort of comment on the
> issue. But every video I've seen so far has either Keidis or Flea or both
> in dresses or kissing.
>Also on the MTV awards last year, the lead singer of Red Hot Chili Peppers and
>another band member (Flea) introduced the Best Pop Video. That award went
>to Pearl Jam. When they came on stage, the two members from Red Hot Chili
>Peppers kissed a couple of members from Pearl Jam on the lips, including
>the lead singer. They kissed like gays do when they meet other gay friends.
>I don't know about Kiedis' orientation, but there was a picture of
>him kissing Eddie Vedder flat on the mouth in Rolling Stone. Both
>he and Flea kissed Vedder on the mouth when Vedder accepted a Video
>Music Award. I've heard Kiedis has a reputation for kissing other
>guys a lot, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's gay. But the
>lyrics from that song sure sound sexual to me.
> speaking of men in dresses..
> dave navarro in that red hot chili peppers video.
How long before they start to grope Ziggy Marley ?
How long before Ziggy gets nude on stage with Flea ?
Out of all of the talent in this world, Ziggy hangs out
with the utter dregs of society, as Ziggy likes working
with gay nudists.
Flea wants to give Ziggy A Big Fat Wet Homo Kiss !
reggaemon1212
A "buzz" without strong sales doesn't provide major(w/cash) labels
incentive to support "future releases". In fact, without strong
CURRENT sales a label most likely will drop an artist and the
opportunity for future releases goes down the drain. I guess an
independent(w/o cash) label will like the "buzz" and give Damian and
others the chance to release future albums. What kind of growth can
this produce? I guess you can fill up a "Reggae" cd with a bunch of
mid-tier Rap/R&B artists (except for Eve) and generate all the buzz
you want but don't really expand your audience - a lot Rap/R&B fans
did not rush out to buy "Halfway Tree". The bottom line is Ziggy and
the rest of the Marley's are comfortable with a more commercial
approach either in a Pop/Rock or Rap/R&B direction. A person's music
interest dictates which approach is more appealing.
Some folks will never like anything that Ziggy puts out, that's real
clear - a lot of Reggae fans dissed "Conscious Party" for being too
commercial before it sold over 1 million copies. The same happened
before Shaggy's last CD blew up. The bottom line is producing and
playing pure Reggae is a good bet to have a Reggae artist stuck
playing smoky clubs for the rest of their playing days. Some Reggae
artists would like to excel beyond this. It's natural for some fans
to fall by the wayside because a more commercial direction is not for
them. That's cool, but don't hate on the player.
Peace
ake...@aol.com (Akee123) wrote in message news:<20020605180737...@mb-cc.aol.com>...
Ras Mikael Enoch
>The bottom line is Ziggy and
>the rest of the Marley's are comfortable with a more commercial
>approach either in a Pop/Rock or Rap/R&B direction. A person's music
>interest dictates which approach is more appealing.
The Marley family are comfortable with commercial
interests because they have already SOLD-OUT to
the aims of the system - Budweiser for starters.
Money Talks, Ziggy Walks.
Sorry, I need to spend I's money on real reggae,
real Jamaican sounds, not some attempts by white
promoters to get Jamaicans to sing their awful
white rock music.