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r.lam

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Nov 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/27/98
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any thoughts?
oneness,
roots-ee/214 & the ark band/230
http://littlemunk.com/thearkband
jah music, roots music, upward, forward

Joel Spencer

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Nov 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/27/98
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USABB \:--]

Akee123

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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I think the fact that nothing too significant happened in the reggae world is
significant. No USA Sunsplash tour, an inconsistent TEVA tour, Boyz to Men
headlining JA Sunsplash, no advances made in radio play, an emabarrassing act
called Ghetto Youth Crew (let's face it, their music is awful. . . and their
act is a headache).

To think that last year Time Magazine actually had a reggae album in its top
albums for 1997 (Luciano's Messenger). I don't know what can happen in 1998 to
turn this thing around. Whatever happened to the JA success at MIDEM in
France? Did that do anything to help the music in the long term?

cool vibes,
Akee123


r.lam

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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Akee123 wrote:
I think the fact that nothing too significant happened in the reggae
world is
significant.

..akee, your comments here are well noted..
all food for thought...hope that there is much more reasoning on this
later on...oneness, roots-ee
*****************


No USA Sunsplash tour, an inconsistent TEVA tour, Boyz to Men
headlining JA Sunsplash, no advances made in radio play, an
emabarrassing act called Ghetto Youth Crew (let's face it, their music
is awful. . . and their act is a headache).
To think that last year Time Magazine actually had a reggae album in
its top albums for 1997 (Luciano's Messenger). I don't know what can
happen in 1998 to
turn this thing around. Whatever happened to the JA success at MIDEM in
France? Did that do anything to help the music in the long term?
cool vibes,
Akee123

--

Julian Schmidt

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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You mean the Marley kids? The Sunsaplsh gig, or generally? Maybe you can
explain it in a more detailed way.

Thanks
Julian

>an emabarrassing act
>called Ghetto Youth Crew (let's face it, their music is awful. . . and
their
>act is a headache).


>cool vibes,
>Akee123
>

rl...@bgnet.bgsu.edu

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Nov 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/29/98
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hello, my bredda joel, but in a serious vein now, the usabb=usa based bands
site at least marks our sincere effort to bring back true focus onto the usa
reggae bands as a part of reversing the negative and in our humble opinions,
the close mindedness of the current usa reggae powers to be... after all, usa
reggae is still an integral component of the whole international reggae
scene...we must all be united in our efforts and not embrace or support any
"divide and rule" imposed transactions. we will help try to turn the tables,
true? only jah know...oneness, roots-ee *********************************
jo...@LittleMunk.com wrote: USABB \:--] ********************************
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DJ-RJ

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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Roots-ee wanted me to post this to keep the subject going...

DJ-RJ

Forwarded message:
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:50:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Gregory Stephens <gste...@weber.ucsd.edu>


Bubbly,

My thoughts? I have been so wrapped up in teaching and
book bidness and parenting that I don't feel like I've really
got my finger on the pulse. Although from a distance, it does
appear to me that 1998 has been a relatively stagnant year,
when I compare it to other years. Maybe it is significant
that Sizzla's "bun whitey" comments raised such a discussion.
Because I don't think a lot of old school reggae fans are
really ready for the new directions dancehall is taking.
Afterall, these same people have been hyping Sizzla as
the hottest thing in dancehall for the past two years.
And when this new black messiah reveals his true colors,
they feel betrayed....

The most impressive thing to me is probably the
high quality of work (both lyrical vision and music) being
put out by Jah Mali and Morgan Heritage. But I've got a
feeling that this is only peripheral to what is actually
moving people in the dancehall. Beenie Man's commercial
success seems significant. Yet I myself don't think he has
the voice or songwriting skills to carry reggae to a new audience.

No Sunsplash tour this year? That is surely significant.
Maybe Ras Rojah is right about how reggae is all but dead as
far as having any significant impact in the U.S.

M.C. Gregory


MrFike

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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>>an emabarrassing act called Ghetto Youth Crew (let's face it, their music is
awful. . . and their act is a headache).

If you're referring to the Marley kids' project (WHICH ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A
CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION RUN BY THE MARLEY FAMILY!!), I have seen Ghetto Youths
a few times, (with different lineups) and found them to be pretty true to the
sounds of all the Marley kids' albums. If you don't dig the kids' albums
(Uprising, JR Gong, Melody Makers etc....) then it would follow that Ghetto
Youth wouldn't be your cup o tea. I don't personally find their act
embarassing, nor their music bad at all. It is a little more upbeat and modern.
I actually think it's kind of a nice something different, the "organized chaos"
of their stage act. Oh well. Live and let live

MrF...@aol.com
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r.lam

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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Roots-ee wanted me to post this to keep the subject going...
DJ-RJ

...roots-ee:
thanks for doing this...and also to gregory too for sharing...
************************


Forwarded message:
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:50:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Gregory Stephens <gste...@weber.ucsd.edu>
Bubbly,
My thoughts?

(snipped)


No Sunsplash tour this year? That is surely significant.
Maybe Ras Rojah is right about how reggae is all but dead as
far as having any significant impact in the U.S.
M.C. Gregory

..............
with all due respescx, so what if anything are we ( in the usa ) doing
to keep the reggae music viable? in the meanwhile, please check sites
like
http://littlemunk.com/usabb
( there are other signs and evidences to the contrary i believe...)
oneness, roots-ee

Jah Son

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, DJ-RJ wrote:

> Forwarded message:
> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:50:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Gregory Stephens <gste...@weber.ucsd.edu>
>
> Bubbly,

[respectfully snipped]

>
> The most impressive thing to me is probably the
> high quality of work (both lyrical vision and music) being
> put out by Jah Mali and Morgan Heritage. But I've got a

Agreed 100%, and let's not forget Ras Shiloh's "Babylon You Doom", the
fantastic initial compilation from Easy Star Records, and Kariang's
"Healing Of The Nation" Personally, as a fan of roots music rather than
Dancehall, I'd have to say that 1998 has been a great year so far. Five
killer releases from the above mentioned artists and labels is plenty
for me to give thanks for...and there have been plenty more not
mentioned so far.... Anthony B & Luciano come to mind immediately.

Give thanks-
Jah Son RAw #33

> feeling that this is only peripheral to what is actually
> moving people in the dancehall. Beenie Man's commercial
> success seems significant. Yet I myself don't think he has
> the voice or songwriting skills to carry reggae to a new audience.
>

and...@my-dejanews.com

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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In article <19981128101135...@ng139.aol.com>,

ake...@aol.com (Akee123) wrote:
> I think the fact that nothing too significant happened in the reggae world is
> significant.

How true.

No composers of note have stepped forward. The idea of reggae musician (in
Jamaica) is becoming passe.

Too many DJs chasing after a decreasing share of the hip-hop market.

The old guard is getting older, but many are still putting out quality new
material: Culture, Michael Rose, Ijahman, Pablo Moses, Mutabaruka, the
surviving Skatalites, Mighty Diamonds, Burning Spear but where is the new.

Will reggae end up like Dixieland?

Andy

Akee123

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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I stand firm in my belief that the Marley Boys Ghetto Youths act is nothing
more than as you say "organized chaos." I'm not looking for reggae to have
anything to do with "chaos" especially when it's chatted-rapped over dull
riddims.

Julian's alums sound nothing like them. I hope he stays roots.

cool vibes,
Akee123


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