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Robert Moulton

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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By February 1915 Mack Sennett had expanded his scenario
team to include a musical staff with the aim of providing
each of his Triangle film releases with a musical score.
Believing ragtime best suited his films Sennett began to
import ragtime writers from the East for the job. The
border between the musical staff and the scenario staff
disappeared quickly and the ragtime writers soon found
themselves functioning as scenario editors and
co-directors.

Ragtime writers who headed West included: Jean Havez, Harry
Williams, Vincent Bryan, and Jean Schwartz. For more
information about this aspect of Hollywood and a peripheral
connection to the William Desmond Taylor murder please take
a look at:
http://www.geocities.com/valorem_ca/Script/Bryan/Harry_Will
iams1.html


While it is common knowledge that Jean Havez appeared in
two Buster Keaton films it is now being hypothesized that
Vincent Bryan appeared in some of Charlie Chaplin's Mutual
films during the time he worked for Chaplin as a scenario
editor. It is already known that Bryan's wife, Leota, was
hired by Chaplin for ingenue roles, and appears in at least
four of the Mutuals. For details please refer to:
http://www.geocities.com/valorem_ca/Script/Bryan/vincent_br
yan.html


- Rob


Hal Vickery

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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In article <5%qK4.10617$Bq2.1...@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>, "Robert
Moulton" <robert...@sprint.ca> wrote:

> By February 1915 Mack Sennett had expanded his scenario
> team to include a musical staff with the aim of providing
> each of his Triangle film releases with a musical score.

Triangle or Keystone?

nsmf

Robert Moulton

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Hal - You may be confusing film production with film
distribution. Triangle was formed by D.W. Griffith, Thomas
Ince, and Mack Sennett for film distribution. Sennett's
producing company was Keystone but release was through
Triangle. Refer to the August 8, 1915 clipping from the
New York Telegraph reproduced in
http://www.geocities.com/valorem_ca/Script/Bryan/Harry_Will
iams1.html

Thanks - Rob
lsmft

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Hal Vickery

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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In article <TbJK4.11380$Bq2.2...@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>, "Robert
Moulton" <robert...@sprint.ca> wrote:

> Hal - You may be confusing film production with film
> distribution. Triangle was formed by D.W. Griffith, Thomas
> Ince, and Mack Sennett for film distribution. Sennett's
> producing company was Keystone but release was through
> Triangle. Refer to the August 8, 1915 clipping from the
> New York Telegraph reproduced in
> http://www.geocities.com/valorem_ca/Script/Bryan/Harry_Will
> iams1.html

I generally look at films such as that by production company rather than
releasing organization. For example, I don't really think of the majority
of Laurel and Hardy films as being MGM films, but as Hal Roach productions.
Ditto films by independent producers such as Walter Mirisch, Chaplin (UA
releases), etc. I think most film historians view things the same way,
even though I don't claim to be one. At any rate, that's where you
confused me.

nsmfa

Tracy Doyle

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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Hal Vickery wrote:
>
> I generally look at films such as that by production company rather than
> releasing organization. For example, I don't really think of the majority
> of Laurel and Hardy films as being MGM films, but as Hal Roach productions.
> Ditto films by independent producers such as Walter Mirisch, Chaplin (UA
> releases), etc. I think most film historians view things the same way,
> even though I don't claim to be one. At any rate, that's where you
> confused me.
>
> nsmfa

Hi, Hal...

That said, what do you think of the information that is presented on his
pages? I'm so very grateful that he has posted this stuff... it
represents a lot of work by some folks both in ragtime and silent films.
Your opinion would be greatly appreciated.

And thank you, Rob, for putting in the time and the effort to present
this information. Please post the names of the other newsgroups to which
this notice was posted so we can all visit!

Kindest RAGards,

Tracy
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Robert Moulton

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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Tracy - This message was also posted in:

alt.movies.chaplin
alt.movies.silent

- Rob

Tracy Doyle wrote in message
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Hal Vickery

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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In article <38FC1534...@NospaM.rag-time.com>,
tr...@NospaM.rag-time.com wrote:

<snip clarification/confusion issue>

> Hi, Hal...
>
> That said, what do you think of the information that is presented on his
> pages? I'm so very grateful that he has posted this stuff... it
> represents a lot of work by some folks both in ragtime and silent films.
> Your opinion would be greatly appreciated.
>
> And thank you, Rob, for putting in the time and the effort to present
> this information. Please post the names of the other newsgroups to which
> this notice was posted so we can all visit!

Tracy, I'm always grateful for the information in this newsgroup! If I
weren't I wouldn't be here, and I certainly wouldn't be asking questions
when I get confused!

nsmf

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