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Hyeong-Min Kim

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I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......


CountV

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Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu> wrote:

It would have to be something by Hipgnosis, because their work wasn't just
the cover, but carried all the way through, to inner sleeve, label and
occasional inserts or even a brown paper bag. Oddly enough, some of their
weakest work was with one of my all-time favorites Yes. Going for the One
was identifiably theirs, but not much of a concept or even a very pleasing
design, and Tormato, well...suffice it to say that it doesn't even make my
top one hundred.

Which one to choose out of the remaining works is hard to say.. Their Led
Zeppelin sleeves were all stunning, but my favorite has to be In Through the
Out Door, with its brown paper bag, and the bar setup with the viewpoints of
all the different patrons, and the final touch; the illustrations on the
inner sleeve, that held color pigments which would release and make an easy
coloring book experience for those foolhardy enough to swab a wet paintbrush
over them. I assume that _someone_ somewhere has done it, but I think it's
rare, since no mention of this fact was ever made on the sleeve itself.

Their Pink Floyd sleeves are almost as stunning (and indeed, Hipgnosis alum
Storm Thorgersson continues to do PF's sleeves, but without the cohesivness
of the earlier work), and among those I would probably choose Wish You Were
Here. The theme of the four elements, the disconnectedness of the pictures,
complete with postcards tying in with the title - every detail part of the
whole picture.

There is very little of that kind of whole-package thinking these days,
partly because the CD gives less space for that kind of inventivness/excess
(depending on your point of view). It certainly can be done, witness
Stylorouge's sleeves and booklets for Blur's Parklife & The Great Escape.

That said, I am a big fan of Peter Saville, who was in charge of the look of
Factory Records' output (most notably Joy Division and New Order), where he
continually broke new ground in what an LP sleeve should or could look like.
If there was a concept to a Peter Saville design, it was often obscure and
the content was almost always secondary to the overall form.

As for Roger Dean (because I know he'll come up), he painted some neat
stuff, but once the novelty wore off, at about the gatefold of Close to the
Edge, he wasn't all that interesting. His later-period typography isn't much
good at all either, which is sad, because that was where he excelled during
his prime.

So, answering what the best album sleeve ever is, is like trying to nominate
your favorite song or album - there are just too many.

CountV

NP: Portishead - All Mine (CD single)

Tadashi Nagasaka

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In article <7agkl0$86r$1...@winter.news.rcn.net>, "CountV"
<cou...@REMOVETHISPARTiname.com> wrote:


> Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
>
>> I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
>> the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
>> wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>>
>
>It would have to be something by Hipgnosis, because their work wasn't just
>the cover, but carried all the way through, to inner sleeve, label and
>occasional inserts or even a brown paper bag. Oddly enough, some of their
>weakest work was with one of my all-time favorites Yes. Going for the One
>was identifiably theirs, but not much of a concept or even a very pleasing
>design, and Tormato, well...suffice it to say that it doesn't even make my
>top one hundred.

Probably I would pick one from Hipgnosis, too. But I might choose from UFO
or Scorpions cover. When I was a kid, I always thought what kind of bands
they were by looking those jackets ("In Trance"/"Virgin Killer" etc)
But it's not prog.
Hmm, what would be from Prog? Got it, "Meddle". This could be one, I might
choose.
Was it an ear of human? That's what I thought, though.
And of course, who can forget "Atom Heart Mother"?
Personally, I also like Gary Brooker's "No More Fear of Flying" (Damn, I
have to catch the flight soon). Airplane is going down and everybody was
going crazy and panic. But only Brooker was laughing among them.

And another designer would be Hugh Syme who I liked a lot.
I like the idea of "Moving Picture". Beautiful(?) pictures (which move you;
old lady is crying) were carried (moving) for a movie (moving picture). It
was easy to understand even for me.

>Which one to choose out of the remaining works is hard to say.. Their Led
>Zeppelin sleeves were all stunning, but my favorite has to be In Through the
>Out Door, with its brown paper bag, and the bar setup with the viewpoints of
>all the different patrons, and the final touch; the illustrations on the
>inner sleeve, that held color pigments which would release and make an easy
>coloring book experience for those foolhardy enough to swab a wet paintbrush
>over them. I assume that _someone_ somewhere has done it, but I think it's
>rare, since no mention of this fact was ever made on the sleeve itself.
>
>Their Pink Floyd sleeves are almost as stunning (and indeed, Hipgnosis alum
>Storm Thorgersson continues to do PF's sleeves, but without the cohesivness
>of the earlier work), and among those I would probably choose Wish You Were
>Here. The theme of the four elements, the disconnectedness of the pictures,
>complete with postcards tying in with the title - every detail part of the
>whole picture.

Another great work for sure.
It is an expensive read but "Shine on"'s booklet is great to read about
Hignosis works. Since Thorgersson did "Division Bell", he seems to be
obsessed w/ symmetric design.

>There is very little of that kind of whole-package thinking these days,
>partly because the CD gives less space for that kind of inventivness/excess
>(depending on your point of view). It certainly can be done, witness
>Stylorouge's sleeves and booklets for Blur's Parklife & The Great Escape.

Very true. But some prog start using paper jacket (I like this better)
especially from DGM. Like Trey Gunn's "The Third Star". There are 4 cards in
it. All credit were on them. I thought it was neat and a good idea.

One thing; Don't you hate just putting the face of the artist on the insert?

>That said, I am a big fan of Peter Saville, who was in charge of the look of
>Factory Records' output (most notably Joy Division and New Order), where he
>continually broke new ground in what an LP sleeve should or could look like.
>If there was a concept to a Peter Saville design, it was often obscure and
>the content was almost always secondary to the overall form.
>
>As for Roger Dean (because I know he'll come up), he painted some neat
>stuff, but once the novelty wore off, at about the gatefold of Close to the
>Edge, he wasn't all that interesting. His later-period typography isn't much
>good at all either, which is sad, because that was where he excelled during
>his prime.

I read some about Dean. He said CD killed the art. I guess he has to work w/
box sets to satisfy him. Or he got to do Stage production again??

70's British Prog Giants seemed to have certain ideas toward album art
works, but...
Only ELP didn't have it. It was quite mixed. They used Giger, had a paint of
members, Hipgnosis, and eventually they did "Love Beach".

>So, answering what the best album sleeve ever is, is like trying to nominate
>your favorite song or album - there are just too many.
>
>CountV

Worst one is easy; Asia's archive series; Roger Dean's logo & Rodney
Matthews's paint.
What kind of idiot decide this?
And I was shocked to see the David Cross's US version of "Exile". Even if
the record company had to change the cover, couldn't they do a little
better?
Well, I thought picking the worst one is easier but really, I guess.

One question; Camel's 1st; Is it crying? It looks like Japanese Shinkansen
(Bullet train, is what you call?).

SkyHarmony

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Can't pin down just one, but here goes:

Gentle Giant, "In a Glass House"
Gensis, "The Lamb..." (not so much for the cover art as the whole package)
Ozric Tentacles, "Pungent Effulgent"
King Crimson, "Lark's Tongues in Aspic"
Magma, "Live/Hhai"


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cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk

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In article <36CBA192...@umich.edu>, Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu> wrote:
>I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
>the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
>wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......

Without a doubt, for its subtleties of texture, the inner images that can only
be discerned after lengthy and minute examination, and the wildly imaginative
use of colours, I nominate the cover of "The Beatles" (1968 double album).


Stewart Black

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Hyeong-Min Kim wrote:

> I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
> the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
> wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......

Almost anything on the 4AD lable, but especially Red House Painters second
and third albums: understated visual melancholy, which perfectly complements
the understaed melancholy of the music.

Stewart

Ian Moffatt

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King Crimson - In the Court ....
King Crimson - Larks Tongues
Yes - Close To The Edge
Arena - The Visitor
Hawkwind - In Search Of Space

Ian

Josh Kortbein

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Tadashi Nagasaka (Tadas...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I read some about Dean. He said CD killed the art. I guess he has to work w/

: box sets to satisfy him. Or he got to do Stage production again??

I think this is (IMO, IMO) bullshit. It's a historically relative thing -
I like CD art and I think there are some really neat packages. I've
never owned an LP to compare such packaging to, unless maybe you count
the Ronald McDonald sing-along I had when I was 4.

Using alternative (to straight jewel-box-with-liner-notes) packaging
helps.

Josh

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Webb171097

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This is tough, but a few that immediately come to mind are...

1. Yes- Relayer
2. Yes- Tales From Topographic Oceans
3. King Crimson- In The Court Of The Crimson King
4. Celeste- same (simple, I know, but pleasing to the eye!)

Tim


doug marcus

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Hyeong-Min Kim wrote in message <36CBA192...@umich.edu>...

>I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
>the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
>wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>

the terror drenched "in the court of the crimson king" is the best prog
album cover but the semiramis album with the guy's head growing out of the
ground is very cool too.

Joe Pearson

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Yoav Wasserman wrote:

> A) It's Called "The white Album",NOT "The Beatles"! in the original LP
> the letters were Relief white.

I must respectfully disagree. It is typically referred to as The White Album, but it
is definitely titled "The Beatles", which is precisely that which is embossed on the
cover. I'd let you feel my copy, but this forum is not well suited to the sense of
touch.


sdavmor

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Rcarlberg <rcar...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>How about them Flash covers?


Oh you mean the "desert island disc" marooned forever covers <grin>

Cheers
SDM

Richard Haney

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I wanna play too...
Here's my fave covers in no particular order:
ASH RA TEMPEL / 1st lp
DONOVAN / HMS Donovan + poster
COB / Moyshe Mcstiff....
OSAGE TRIBE / Arrowhead
YATHA SIDHRA / A meditation mass
GAL COSTA / GAL
TREES / On the shore
SPRING / Same
KALIEDOSCOPE / Faintly blowing
KEN KESEY'S ACID TEST
NIRVANA / All of us
SMALL FACES / Ogden's nut gone flake
13th. FLOOR ELEVATORS / Psychedelic sounds

And a million others. A comment I would make is that all of the above
as original lp covers have qualities that make them stand out such as
gimmick covers and or lamination, etc. Whereas when they are
transferred to cd size all covers tend to lose something...but YATHA
SIDHRA and the SMALL FACES are without doubt, still really cool when
shrunk down to cd size. As the former still retains it's die cut and the
latter actually is packaged in a real facsimili (sorry for the
oxymoron) of a tobacco tin.

Rick


Ųyvind Gjermshus

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"Tadashi Nagasaka" <Tadas...@worldnet.att.net> writes:

> One question; Camel's 1st; Is it crying? It looks like Japanese Shinkansen
> (Bullet train, is what you call?).

Looks like it's crying. Probably because it carries alot of
speed. There was another cover art for this album as well. Something
with "Stars and Stripes" on it. But if I remeber right they had to
change the art work for some special reason.

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Yoav Wasserman

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cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk wrote:
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> In article <36CBA192...@umich.edu>, Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu> wrote:
> >I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
> >the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
> >wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>
> Without a doubt, for its subtleties of texture, the inner images that can only
> be discerned after lengthy and minute examination, and the wildly imaginative
> use of colours, I nominate the cover of "The Beatles" (1968 double album).

A) It's Called "The white Album",NOT "The Beatles"! in the original LP


the letters
were Relief white.

B) AS For the album Covers, Paul Whitehead(No connection to the Beatles)
made
some awsome and remarkable Album cover arts Like GENESIS's Nursery
Cryme
(No spelling mistake), Foxtrot and trespass.

Hipgnosis also made some great Cover arts.

Yoav.

Paul Flackett

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In article <36CBA192...@umich.edu>, Hyeong-Min Kim
<hm...@umich.edu> writes

>I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
>the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
>wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>
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Progbear

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Hyeong-Min Kim wrote:

>I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
>the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
>wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......

1. Pink Floyd: _Ummagumma_
2. Caravan: _Cunning Stunts_
3. Novalis: _Vielleicht bist Du ein Clown?_
4. Semiramis: _Dedicato a Frazz_
5. Yes: _Tales From Topographic Oceans_
6. Yes: _Drama_
7. Grobschnitt: _Merry-Go-Round_
8. Eela Craig: _Hats Of Glass_
9. Nobilis Factum: same
10. Taliesyn: _When Silence Will Be Unbearable_

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Rcarlberg

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Faust's 1st album.

Clear vinyl.

Clear lyric sheet.

Clear cover.

Clear plastic bag to protect it.

Rcarlberg

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Almost anything by Bill Ellsworth.

Almost anything on the Spotted Peccary label.

Almost anything by Pat O'Hearn.


Your wife liked "Tormato"? Really? Why in the world? It ranks as one of my
LEAST favorites....

StoOdin101

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Fave album cover art:

1. In the Court of the Crimson King.
2. Tarkus.
3. Kobaia.
4. Weasels Ripped My Flesh.
5. Nursery Cryme.
6. Dark Side of the Moon.
7. Rubycon.
8. Third Warning.
9. Sirius.
10. Locomotiv GT.


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Ian T.

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Hi all,

> Hyeong-Min Kim wrote:
>
> >I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
> >the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
> >wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......

For most beautiful cover art I'd have to go for Tom Newman's "Faerie
Symphony."

For Hipnosis artwork, probably one of The Alan Parsons Project album covers
(is this restricted to prog.?), though their finest ones may not have been by
Hipnosis at all: "The Turn of a Friendly Card" (Godley and Creme) and "Eye in
the Sky" (?) are simple, succinct and brilliantly effetive. Hipnosis' "The
Dark Side of the Moon" in the original gate-fold still impresses me on that
score!

Barclay James Harvest's Maxfield Parrish ripoff cover on "Time Honoured
Ghosts" is lovely, though "Gone to Earth," with the cutout has a nice sombre
quality about it.

Caravan's "In the Land of Grey and Pink" is a really nice portrayal of a
village out of Tolkien and seems to capture the mood of the album perfectly.
I generally hate covers featuring the artist themselves, but "If I Could Do
It All Over Again" is a rather nice band photo, of them lurking in the
greenery.

The front and back of Genesis "Wind and Wuthering" capture the mood
perfectly.

Some covers are plain disappointing. A lot of Camel covers get me this way,
though using the old photographs for "Dust and Dreams" worked perfectly.
Kayak's "Merlin," with just the title word is brazen in its lack of
imagination!

Using an old painting, such a Pre-Raphaelite Waterhouse for Midwinter's "The
Waters of Sweet Sorrow," can be very effective, though these days it's likely
to get lost in the New Age section, with this having dissolved into a
packaging cliche.

Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album. I
admit I'm a sucker for a pretty cover, but preferably not too overworked or
cluttered.

Interesting thread!

Regards all,

Ian T.,
ith...@lucy.swin.edu.au

Rcarlberg

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How about them Flash covers?

Alexandre A. S.

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In article <19990218201947...@ngol06.aol.com>,
prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote:

>Hyeong-Min Kim wrote:
>
>>I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
>>the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
>>wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>

> 1. Pink Floyd: _Ummagumma_
> 2. Caravan: _Cunning Stunts_
> 3. Novalis: _Vielleicht bist Du ein Clown?_
> 4. Semiramis: _Dedicato a Frazz_
> 5. Yes: _Tales From Topographic Oceans_
> 6. Yes: _Drama_
> 7. Grobschnitt: _Merry-Go-Round_
> 8. Eela Craig: _Hats Of Glass_
> 9. Nobilis Factum: same
> 10. Taliesyn: _When Silence Will Be Unbearable_
>

Mike, no offense, but this looks like a TOP 10 UGLIEST album covers!
SEMIRAMIS is fine, and "Tales" is OK ("Fragile" is better). But the
rest... NOBILIS FACTUM? Yuck... Those 4 guys on the back cover look more
like a mariachi band than a prog band! :) The NOVALIS one is horrible
too... "Brandung" had a nice cover, though...


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In <36CCC2DC...@iquest.net> Joe Pearson <Pear...@iquest.net>
writes:
>
>
>
>Yoav Wasserman wrote:
>
>> A) It's Called "The white Album",NOT "The Beatles"! in the original
LP
>> the letters were Relief white.
>
>I must respectfully disagree. It is typically referred to as The
White Album, but it
>is definitely titled "The Beatles", which is precisely that which is
embossed on the
>cover. I'd let you feel my copy, but this forum is not well suited to
the sense of
>touch.
>
You are correct. "The White Album" is the common name, but it is
officially the Beatles' self-titled album.

Some favorite covers that come to mind:

Beatles: Revolver
David Bowie -- Ziggy Stardust
Genesis -- Nursery Cryme
REM -- Murmur
Husker Du -- Zen Arcade
Rush -- Grace Under Pressure
Floyd -- Wish You Were Here
Rolling Stones -- Exile on Main Street
Grateful Dead -- Aoxomoxoa
Peter Gabriel III
The Circle Jerks -- Golden Shower of Hits
Tool -- Aenima
Jethro Tull -- Thick as a Brick (the whole cover concept, really)
Funkadelic -- Maggot Brain

Matt P

SkyHarmony

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Actually that's a pretty good choice. For some reason, this reminds me, I'd
like to add Anglagard's _Epilog_ to my list, I don't hear much about the cover
but it one of the most ingenious ones I've seen in a long time.


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SkyHarmony

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And just when I promised myself not to respond any more to this thread!

>3. Kobaia.

_Excellent_ choice. I need another amendment to my list.

SkyHarmony

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>Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album.

True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
illustration? Nominees?

StoOdin101

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>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
>illustration? Nominees?

1. Selling England By The Pound
2. Stand By
3. 1001 Degrees Centigrade
4. Hybrid Beat
5. Crazy World Of Arthur Brown
6. Allez-Teia
7. UZed
8. Familjesprickor.
9. As The World
10. Wolf City

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Rcarlberg is to machines what machines are to men:
> Faust's 1st album.

> Clear vinyl.

> Clear lyric sheet.

> Clear cover.

> Clear plastic bag to protect it.

Which pressing is that? I have an album just called "Faust" which
I would reasonably expect to be the first, but which is packaged like any
other record.

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SkyHarmony wrote:

>>Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album.
>

>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
>illustration? Nominees?

1. Il Balletto di Bronzo: _Ys_
2. Gentle Giant: _Acquiring The Taste_
3. Grits: _As The World Grits_
4. Camel: _Mirage_
5. Änglagård: _Epilog_
6. ELP: _Trilogy_

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Progbear (prog...@aol.comGEORYN) says...
>
> 5. Änglagård: _Epilog_

That's interesting... I always thought the Epilog cover was really cool.
Until I saw the face, of course, I thought it was utter garbage, but it's
a pretty neat trick. The (CD) booklet art is pretty cool as well.

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I've always loved the centerfold of Van Der Graaf Generators _Pawn
Hearts_. In fact the first version I bought many ears ago now did not
had the centerfold, but the LP contained one song, which not were on
the orginal release. When I found out about the original LP with the
centerfold picture I traded the LP to a friend just to go out to buy
the original - with the centerfold picture and without the extra song,
but I didn't care. Later I found the song included on Big Elf's CD.

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:13:54 -0500, Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu>
wrote:

>I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
>the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
>wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>

Orla Hylleberg Eriksen
Copenhagen, Denmark

Jonathan Dusting

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> I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
> the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
> wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>
>

There's been a lot of pretty decent covers produced in the past (especially
late 60's into 70's), but number 1 has got to be Lizard. You never get
bored of looking at all the little things all over it. The coverlet of the
CD version is of course a joke in comparison.

JD.


Wurensh

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I like the Japanese release "The Story of Genesis" - really cool gatefold that
shows a foggy leafless forest with beams of sunlight shining down - as one
gazes from the treetops down, the scene gradually turns into complete darkness
for a while, then, as if to be part of the underlying root system underground,
the scene shifts to a live shot of the band, of course immersed in fog as well.
:-)

ciao!

Hank

Michael Bonetsmueller

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skyha...@aol.comkhenta (SkyHarmony) writes:

>
> >Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album.
>
> True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
> illustration? Nominees?
>
>

Unfortunately, Van Der Graaf comes to mind:

The Least we Can Do Is Wave To Each Other
Pawn Hearts (nice idea, done badly)
But then, 'H to He' is pretty cool as well as 'Still Life'.

'Attila' has a really disgusting cover. (Btw, this is no other than a
very young _Billy Joel_ going berserk on a heavily modified Hammond
Organ. Very weird that and _very much_ unlike everything he made after
that. He is very embarrassed of this album nowadays.)

--
Michael Bonetsmüller The least we can do is wave to each other
bon...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de --Van der Graaf Generator

DanTheMan

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Spinal Tap.

Black, classic.

BABY...@manawatu.gen.nz

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I LIKE SOME OF THE ECM CLASSIC SIMPLE COVERS, LIKE PEOPLE JUST STANDING IN
THE STREET, EXCELLENT.
BABYMASH.


Glenn Fletcher - http://members.tripod.com/~Babymash/ A NEW CD IS
COMING SOON - BABYMASH CD - EAT YOUR MASH 71 Mins.

Markus Hollaender

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On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 BABY...@MANAWATU.GEN.NZ wrote:

-> I LIKE SOME OF THE ECM CLASSIC SIMPLE COVERS, LIKE PEOPLE JUST STANDING IN
-> THE STREET, EXCELLENT.

And those are still rather elaborate, compared to Jarrett/Garbarek's
_Luminessence_ or Jarrett's _Personal Mountains_ (for example).


Markus

--------------------------------

"One thing is for sure: a sheep is not a creature of the air. Baaaaahh!"


Markus Hollaender

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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Hyeong-Min Kim wrote:

-> I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
-> the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
-> wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......

VdGG's _Godbluff_, definitely. I'll have to get it on vinyl someday; on
CD it just doesn't work.

:-)

J. Mcglinchey

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4 I haven't seen mentioned yet:

No Pussyfooting
Cluster & Eno
After the Heat
A Blessing of Tears

Joe M.
U of Washington
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~joemcg


Daniel P Coffey

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Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
I'm partial to text...

Dan Coffey
Reference Librarian
Room 424
Lockwood Memorial Library
State University of New York at Buffalo

cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk

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In article <36CD36...@netmedia.net.il>, yo...@netmedia.net.il wrote:
>cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk wrote:
>> .... I nominate the cover of "The Beatles" (1968 double album).

>
>A) It's Called "The white Album",NOT "The Beatles"! in the original LP
>the letters
> were Relief white.

Got One :-)

The funniest thing is that not only did somone take me seriously, but they
also made a mistake in correcting me. The album's title is most definitely
"The Beatles". "White Album" is just an unofficial way of referring to it, in
much the same sense as "Led Zeppelin 4".

Sorry, I don't usually indulge in trolling.
I promise not to do it again.
For a while.


Zero the Hero

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:>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
:>illustration? Nominees?

Hell, that's easy:

Ash Ra Tempel - Inventions for Electric Guitar (pretty crappy title, too).

Jason
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Magnus

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Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu> wrote:

> I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose

> the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my

> wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......
>

Definitely "In court of the Crimson King".

--
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spacefreak

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BLACK SABBATH's "Black Sabbath" original gatefold"
INCREDIBLE STRING BAND's "5000 spirits or the layers of the onion"
HAWKWIND's "Space ritual" (full postered original)
MOTORHEAD's "Motorhead"
and SYMPHONIC SLAM "Symphonic Slam"

are among my prefered

--
spacefreak


Ųyvind Gjermshus

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skyha...@aol.comkhenta (SkyHarmony) writes:

> >Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album.
>

> True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
> illustration? Nominees?

Spock's Beard-The Kindness of Strangers
ELP-Trilogy
Gentle Giant -Aquiring the Taste

Np. Jethro Tull-The Minstrel in the Gallery

--
Ųyvind

Gondola Bob

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One of the most glaring examples I can think of is Neil Young's "Tonight's
the Night." Yikes, what an ugly picture!

GB

CountV

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I would say that a lot (a good 80%, at least) of seventies prog, and most of
anything prog-like released post-84 falls into that category. I can't think
of a single modern prog sleeve that looks good (and this is from browsing
the racks at Mellotronen too) - there are ones that don't make me sick
(Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase), but that's as far as I'll go.

Actually, one that strikes me right now that is actually a case of good
design is KC's Discipline, but that was sort of diminished by the failed
attempts at similar style in the next two releases.

IQ get some points for having illustrations for all the lyrics in
Subterranea, but the photo manipulation isn't all that great, even though
there is obviously a design at work.

CountV

NP: Gentle Giant - Three Friends (the original sleeve is among the more
horrendous of the seventies, but I'd much rather have a CD with that, then a
recycled debut album pic, like I have now)

Progbear

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Michael Bonetsmueller wrote:

>The Least we Can Do Is Wave To Each Other

A cute play on the band's name...it didn't really work, though. At least
it was better than _Aerosol Gray Machine_, displaying the worst excesses of
60's pop-art fashion. Yuck!

>Pawn Hearts (nice idea, done badly)

Not *badly*, IMO, but not all that impressive. I still like it better than
the cover of KC's ITWOP, which milks a similar vein.

>But then, 'H to He' is pretty cool as well as 'Still Life'.

_H To He_ is the work of Paul Whitehead, best known for his Genesis album
covers. _Still Life_ just goes to show that a simple idea need not be
simplistic (e.g.: _Godbluff_).

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Progbear

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Michael Bonetsmueller wrote:

>'Attila' has a really disgusting cover. (Btw, this is no other than a
>very young _Billy Joel_ going berserk on a heavily modified Hammond
>Organ. Very weird that and _very much_ unlike everything he made after
>that. He is very embarrassed of this album nowadays.)

The "meat-locker" thing? I don't know about "really disgusting", "really
tacky" perhaps, though. And yes, it is quite a trip to hear Billy Joel trying
his damndest to wail like Robert Plant! :-{)> My cassette reissue copy
conveniently doesn't mention Billy Joel anywhere on it, but I have seen the LP
liner notes, and it really is him...

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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N.P.:"Quien Gira y quien sueña"- P a b l o 'E l E n t e r r a d o r'

John Gonzales

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Hyeong-Min Kim wrote:

> I & my wife talked about our favorite album covers this evening. I chose
> the cover art of Klaatu's first album as my all time favorite and my
> wife chose Tormato by Yes. What's your favorite one? Just curious......

Although the music leaves a lot to be desired, the Rolling Stones' _Their
Satanic Majesties Request_ is pretty cool. I get a headache just fidgeting
with the cover to see their different movements.

Another one I always liked was Queen's _The Miracle_ album with the band
members heads morphed next to each other. I have a t-shirt with that album
cover on it and I get the most comments on that shirt.

John


Alexandre A. S.

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In article <19990218225918...@ng-fi1.aol.com>,
skyha...@aol.comkhenta (SkyHarmony) wrote:

>>Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album.
>
>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
>illustration? Nominees?
>
>

Ha... So many examples in prog... Let's start with YES' "Going for the
one". It's quite a nice album, yet the cover... Yuck...
ENZO CAPUANO's "Storia mai scritta" is an interesting one. I would have
never though that that was a beautiful prog album, since the cover gives you
an idea that it's from one of those "canzone" italian singers, you know...
Pretty cheesy...
Fairly recently, HAPPY THE MAN's "Death's crown" is ugly as hell. Can't
figure out a thing from that mish-mash of computer graphics... Their 2 LPs
had nice covers, nothing fancy, but nice.


NP: LED ZEPPELIN "Remasters"

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In article <19990219012625...@ngol05.aol.com>,
prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote:

>SkyHarmony wrote:
>
>>>Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album.
>>
>>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
>>illustration? Nominees?
>

> 1. Il Balletto di Bronzo: _Ys_
> 2. Gentle Giant: _Acquiring The Taste_
> 3. Grits: _As The World Grits_
> 4. Camel: _Mirage_
> 5. Änglagård: _Epilog_

Oh, c'mon Mike... Give me a break... The cover art on this one is
absolutely fantastic. I've even bought the LP to get the full effect :)

> 6. ELP: _Trilogy_

Well, I was going to mention "Love beach", but then I remembered about
the "good music" part :P

Guy Berger

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"F.B." wrote:

> King Crimson: Red
> That was all they could come up with for arguably KC's best album?

It's nothing special, but I think it conveys the contents of the album
pretty well. Those guys look like they're going to kill somebody.

> Genesis: Invisible Touch
> OK, the music mostly sucks too, but I just think that one of the worst
> covers ever deserves mention here.

Not as bad as _Calling All Stations_. I mean, with all the money they
spent on that cover, how could they have messed things up so much?

Guy

NP _Three of a Perfect Pair_
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Mike Dickson

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In article <36CD36...@netmedia.net.il> yo...@netmedia.net.il wrote...

> A) It's Called "The white Album",NOT "The Beatles"! in the original LP
> the letters were Relief white.

Think again, mate. It's actual title is 'The Beatles'.

Mike Dickson, Black Cat Software Factory, Edinburgh, Scotland
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COMMACK

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>Definitely "In court of the Crimson King".
>
>--
>Mvh Magnus Lundin

My grandfather painted a reproduction for me
I still have it. Very cool

JZ

Rcarlberg

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Joe McGlinchey wrote:

>No Pussyfooting
>Cluster & Eno
>After the Heat

"Pussyfooting" is kind of fun picking out all the differences between the
views, but "Cluster & Eno"? "After The Heat"? Surely you jest.

I like that Cher album of her sitting before a mirror which becomes a skull if
you pull back -- based on some famous painting with the same concept.

Roger Espel Llima

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>>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
>>illustration? Nominees?

* good music + bad cover:

Present, _Triskaidekaphobia/Le Poison..._ : nice creepy but *subtle*
music, and completely un-subtle skulls on the CD cover.

Mike Oldfield, _QE2_. OK music (some really good, some filler), and
quite a crappy cover.


* good music + good cover:

Hoyry Kone, _Huono Parturi_

Thinking Plague, _In This Life_ (the cover of _In Extremis) was a slight
disappointment, esp. compared to the great
music)
Änglagård, both albums

Anekdoten, both albums

... and many many more that I can't think of right now!

--
Roger Espel Llima, es...@llaic.u-clermont1.fr
http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/espel/index.html

A Cimino

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quoth smc...@chat.carleton.caSPAM (The Original Irish Bastard) :

> Which pressing is that? I have an album just called "Faust" which
>I would reasonably expect to be the first, but which is packaged like any
>other record.

You're correct, it is the first. I have a Polydor pressing (probably
what you've got) that is just like a regular record. I think it's the
later Recommended pressing that had the clear packaging...

SkyHarmony

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> Well, I was going to mention "Love beach", but then I remembered about
>the "good music" part :P
>

I've made another category just for you. %^)


NP: nothing

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Garry McKenzie

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BABY...@MANAWATU.GEN.NZ wrote:
:
: I LIKE SOME OF THE ECM CLASSIC SIMPLE COVERS, LIKE PEOPLE JUST STANDING IN
: THE STREET, EXCELLENT.
: BABYMASH.
:
:
I like the Pat Metheny ones, especially As Falls Wichita. In fact
Metheny's covers for Imaginary day and Secret Stories are also great.
Also ECM - John Abercrombies Tactics, just black and a square.

Other covers:
Oldfield - Tubular Bells 2
- Platinum
- Crises
- Islands - love the hands in the sea

King Crimson - Discipline

Also , can anyone tell me why so many covers have Telegraph/power
poles on them. Metheny is great for this - Wichita, Secret Story, I Can
see Your House from here. Also the Rain Tree Crow cover as well. And I'm
sure I've seen more.

gmck


F.B.

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In <19990218225918...@ng-fi1.aol.com>

skyha...@aol.comkhenta (SkyHarmony) writes:
>
>>Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad
album.
>
>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible
cover
>illustration? Nominees?
>

This is easy:

Rush: Hemispheres
Yes: Going for the One.
Bare male asses and cheesy art never really did it for me.

King Crimson: Red
That was all they could come up with for arguably KC's best album?

Genesis: Invisible Touch


OK, the music mostly sucks too, but I just think that one of the worst
covers ever deserves mention here.

Matt P

F.B.

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In <19990218231909...@ng133.aol.com> stood...@aol.com

(StoOdin101) writes:
>
>>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible
cover
>>illustration? Nominees?
>
>1. Selling England By The Pound

Hah -- I had this one as one of my favorites.
An excellent illustration.

Matt P

Garry McKenzie

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Roger Espel Llima (es...@news.ens.fr) wrote:
: >>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
: >>illustration? Nominees?
:
: Mike Oldfield, _QE2_. OK music (some really good, some filler), and
: quite a crappy cover.
:
:
Also Oldfield's Incantations

F.B.

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In <19990219214244...@ng-ch1.aol.com>

skyha...@aol.comkhenta (SkyHarmony) writes:
>
>> Well, I was going to mention "Love beach", but then I remembered
about
>>the "good music" part :P
>>
>
>I've made another category just for you. %^)
>
>

I'll reiterate: Invisible Touch.

Also: Yes -- Tormato
Jethro Tull -- Under Wraps
Lou Reed -- Mistrial
Pearl Jam -- Ten
Supertramp -- Indelibly Stamped
Todd Rundgren's Utopia

Matt P

Brandon Wu

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F.B. (ltri...@ix.netcom.com) says...

>
>King Crimson: Red
>That was all they could come up with for arguably KC's best album?

I actually kind of like that cover. Not particularly creative, sure, but
the photograph is nicely done. The three guys look, well, impressive,
mostly thanks to all the shadows.

-BWu

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SkyHarmony

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>Rush: Hemispheres
>Yes: Going for the One.
>Bare male asses and cheesy art never really did it for me.

Arg! Tell me about it! Bear in mind I'm still a kid (just turned 16, surely the
first threat to my title as Youngest Semi-Regular Contributor) whose parents
ocassionally look at the CDs I'm buying. Buying _GFTO_ was sooooo embarassing!
I'm not crazy about the guy on the cover of Gryphon's _Raindance_ either.


NP: Dream Theater, "A Change of Seasons"

CountV

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(F.B.) wrote:

> Genesis: Invisible Touch
> OK, the music mostly sucks too, but I just think that one of the worst
> covers ever deserves mention here.

Yeah, the typography is among the most amateurish on a major label release
ever. The picture isn't horrible, and I'm sure that a talented graphic
designer could have used it to good effect, but no such luck.

CountV

NP: Rush - Power Windows

CountV

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----------
In article <7alagq$m...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, ltri...@ix.netcom.com(F.B.)
wrote:


> In <19990218231909...@ng133.aol.com> stood...@aol.com
> (StoOdin101) writes:
>>

>>>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible
> cover
>>>illustration? Nominees?
>>

>>1. Selling England By The Pound
>
> Hah -- I had this one as one of my favorites.
> An excellent illustration.

And many people had Nursey Cryme as their favorite, which I think is an
absolutely _awful_ painting with tacky type. SEbtP is considerably more
accomplished, in my opinion. It just goes to show, there's no accounting for
tastes.

CountV

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Guy Berger <gbe...@ucsd.edu> wrote:

>> Genesis: Invisible Touch
>> OK, the music mostly sucks too, but I just think that one of the worst
>> covers ever deserves mention here.
>

> Not as bad as _Calling All Stations_. I mean, with all the money they
> spent on that cover, how could they have messed things up so much?
>
> Guy

They spent a lot of _money_ on it? Where did you hear that? I think that
it's poor to middling, but if it actually _cost_ a lot, then it's
horrible...

Hyeong-Min Kim

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F.B. wrote:

> Yes: Going for the One.
> Bare male asses and cheesy art never really did it for me.
>

What do you think of that bare male butt on the back cover of Rush's
2112?


John J Troutman

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SkyHarmony wrote:

> >Surely the saddest thing is when there's a great cover on a baaad album.
>

> True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
> illustration? Nominees?
>

I've never liked the original covers for the first two Yes albums.

Verve, IIRC, repackaged the first two Soft Machine albums in an atrocious
cover. Mind you, the originals weren't so hot either...

Jeff Troutman
NP: Bill Nelson - Atom Shop


Michael Bonetsmueller

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prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) writes:

> >'Attila' has a really disgusting cover. (Btw, this is no other than a
> >very young _Billy Joel_ going berserk on a heavily modified Hammond
> >Organ. Very weird that and _very much_ unlike everything he made after
> >that. He is very embarrassed of this album nowadays.)

> The "meat-locker" thing? I don't know about "really
> disgusting", "really tacky" perhaps, though. And yes, it is quite a
> trip to hear Billy Joel trying his damndest to wail like Robert
> Plant! :-{)> My cassette reissue copy conveniently doesn't mention
> Billy Joel anywhere on it, but I have seen the LP liner notes, and
> it really is him...

See the meat thing hanging in the corner? That's him!

But honestly, these two guys dressed up as huns (being peaceful
hippies in their normal life, I suppose) trying to look verry
dangerrous and, hmm, hun-like (After all, it's Attila!) are very
funny.

Speaking of this type of cover, there's also a Grand Funk Railroad
cover (Survival) that is totally void of taste: The three band members
dressed up as cavemen in front of their cave complete with bear-rug,
club and all, again trying to look very grim... But then, it's kind of
adapted to the complexity of their music.

Michael.


--
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bon...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de --Van der Graaf Generator

Progbear

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John J Troutman wrote:

>Verve, IIRC, repackaged the first two Soft Machine albums in an atrocious
>cover. Mind you, the originals weren't so hot either...

point taken on the second, but I thought the gimmicky rotating insert that
came with the first was quite cool. I suppose the reissue you're referring to
was the one with the stylized triskelion figure on the cover. But it had four
legs as I recall, so what would you call it, a tetra-skelion?

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Michael Bonetsmueller wrote:

>Speaking of this type of cover, there's also a Grand Funk Railroad
>cover (Survival) that is totally void of taste: The three band members
>dressed up as cavemen in front of their cave complete with bear-rug,
>club and all, again trying to look very grim... But then, it's kind of
>adapted to the complexity of their music.

Which was the one where they had their heads airbrushed onto bodybuilders'
bodies? That one struck me as rather tacky. But then, it sort of matched their
music. %-{)>

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John Gonzales wrote:

> Although the music leaves a lot to be desired, the Rolling Stones' _Their
>Satanic Majesties Request_ is pretty cool. I get a headache just fidgeting
>with the cover to see their different movements.
>

I actually *liked* the music on this album. But then, there *is* a sort of
proto-prog element to it, what with all the Mellotron on it.
_Sticky Fingers_ has a cool cover, too, at least the original vinyl did.
And I was listening to it the other day...and I had forgotten, it's a damned
good album to boot!

>Another one I always liked was Queen's _The Miracle_ album with the band
>members heads morphed next to each other. I have a t-shirt with that album
>cover on it and I get the most comments on that shirt.

_The Miracle_ actually sort of gave me the creeps. I like the covers to _A
Day At The Races_ and _A Night At The Opera_ though. Though a bit silly, I did
find the cover to _News Of The World_ amusing.

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A Cimino wrote:

>You're correct, it is the first. I have a Polydor pressing (probably
>what you've got) that is just like a regular record. I think it's the
>later Recommended pressing that had the clear packaging...

No, the original German Polydor issue was in the clear package, but
reissues lack it. When Recommended did it, they saw fit to do it in the
original artwork, and I'm glad they did, as it allows me to own an affordable
copy of this very, very cool package.

Progbear

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F.B. wrote:

> Supertramp -- Indelibly Stamped
> Todd Rundgren's Utopia

I don't think _Indelibly Stamped_ was a bad album at all...though
undoubtedly it's their least proggy. And shame on you for bad-mouthing TR's
Utopia! A *great* album, and I think the cover's pretty damned cool as well.

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Guy Berger

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CountV wrote:

> They spent a lot of _money_ on it? Where did you hear that? I think that
> it's poor to middling, but if it actually _cost_ a lot, then it's
> horrible...

I'm speculating, because it's pretty meticulous. There's nothing sloppy
about the graphics or the quality, it's just a conceptual piece of crap.

Guy

Piotr Dubiel

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On 19 Feb 1999 06:26:25 GMT, prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote:


>>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
>>illustration? Nominees?
>

> 1. Il Balletto di Bronzo: _Ys_

Really? I rather liked this cover.

Adelbert von Deyen, a German Klaus Schulze wannabe released some
really good records that had the most godawful cover art I have ever
seen. They were obvious attempts to mimic the Urs Amman cover art on
KS's _Timewind_ or _Blackdance_, but they ended up just being
extremely puky.

99.99% of neo-prog album covers (with the exception of Collage who had
the good sense to use a real artist -- Zdzislaw Beksinski) are so bad
that I really have trouble believing that they would actually do
something this bad and that it is all a private joke. Of course, I
feel the same way about the music most of the time as well.

Arrakeen's CD cover was so bad I was embarrassed to buy it. Luckily I
don't listen to IQ, but I found most of their covers to be
unmeasurably awful. And those customized-van grade airbrushed
Marillion covers too. Yikes. There *is* no accounting for taste.

ELP _Tarkus_... ewwww...

Oh yeah... all those awful Kim Poor illustrations on Steve Hackett
records. Embarrassing.

There are tons more, I am sure... I'm just sore and tired, so I can't
think of any.


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John J Troutman

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Progbear wrote:

> John J Troutman wrote:
>
> >Verve, IIRC, repackaged the first two Soft Machine albums in an atrocious
> >cover. Mind you, the originals weren't so hot either...
>
> point taken on the second, but I thought the gimmicky rotating insert that
> came with the first was quite cool. I suppose the reissue you're referring to
> was the one with the stylized triskelion figure on the cover. But it had four
> legs as I recall, so what would you call it, a tetra-skelion?
>
>

That's the one. And I would call it an embarassment. Yeesh!

I can see your point about the first Soft Machine LP, but as my copy is on CD and
not vinyl, I think it just looks cluttered.

John J Troutman

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Progbear wrote:

> F.B. wrote:
>
> > Supertramp -- Indelibly Stamped
> > Todd Rundgren's Utopia
>
> I don't think _Indelibly Stamped_ was a bad album at all...though
> undoubtedly it's their least proggy. And shame on you for bad-mouthing TR's
> Utopia! A *great* album, and I think the cover's pretty damned cool as well.
>
>

It is a great album, but I think the cover is a good idea poorly executed. The
coloring is just wrong, and cheapens the effect.

My choice for top contender in this thread? ELP's Tarkus

F.B.

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In <36CE557C...@umich.edu> Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu>
writes:

I don't think that the back cover of 2112 is as bad as the front cover
of either of those two albums.

Matt P

F.B.

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In <19990220061243...@ngol05.aol.com>

prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) writes:
>
>
>F.B. wrote:
>
>> Supertramp -- Indelibly Stamped
>> Todd Rundgren's Utopia
>
> I don't think _Indelibly Stamped_ was a bad album at all...though
>undoubtedly it's their least proggy. And shame on you for bad-mouthing
TR's
>Utopia! A *great* album, and I think the cover's pretty damned cool as
well.
>
You actually *like* the first (or any) Utopia album?

Matt P

Greg Ioannou

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In article <7aipeq$6s7$2...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>, smc...@chat.carleton.caSPAM (The Original Irish Bastard) wrote:
>Rcarlberg is to machines what machines are to men:
>> Faust's 1st album.
>
>> Clear vinyl.
>
>> Clear lyric sheet.
>
>> Clear cover.
>
>> Clear plastic bag to protect it.
>
> Which pressing is that? I have an album just called "Faust" which
>I would reasonably expect to be the first, but which is packaged like any
>other record.

I've never seen anything but the totally clear version of Faust's first. And
their second was the everything-black album (plus a pile of nifty full-colour
posters). Were either of them rereleased with "ordinary" packaging? Seems a
pity!

Greg Ioannou
>

Greg Ioannou

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In article <19990218202424...@ng-ft1.aol.com>, rcar...@aol.com (Rcarlberg) wrote:
>Faust's 1st album.
>
>Clear vinyl.
>
>Clear lyric sheet.
>
>Clear cover.
>
>Clear plastic bag to protect it.

Oh, no! It came with a lyric sheet? Really? Dammit, now I have to find a
complete copy!

Greg Ioannou

James Chokey

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In article <36ced907....@news.magma.ca>, gr...@NOSPAMmagma.ca (Piotr
Dubiel) wrote:

> On 19 Feb 1999 06:26:25 GMT, prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote:
>
>
> >>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible cover
> >>illustration? Nominees?
> >
> > 1. Il Balletto di Bronzo: _Ys_
>
> Really? I rather liked this cover.

As you yourself say, there's no accounting for taste! ;-)


> 99.99% of neo-prog album covers (with the exception of Collage who had
> the good sense to use a real artist -- Zdzislaw Beksinski) are so bad
> that I really have trouble believing that they would actually do
> something this bad and that it is all a private joke. Of course, I
> feel the same way about the music most of the time as well.
>
> Arrakeen's CD cover was so bad I was embarrassed to buy it. Luckily I
> don't listen to IQ, but I found most of their covers to be
> unmeasurably awful. And those customized-van grade airbrushed
> Marillion covers too. Yikes.

Interesting. I find most of the neo-prog album covers quite appealing
visually-- particularly the Marillion covers.Oh sure, there is a
tendency among a lot of neo- album covers to fall into a kind of stylistic
rut... with all those jesters, harlequins, etc., but I think that's
just become one of the conventions of the genre. (One can find similar
stylistic ruttery (if that's a word) among heavy metal album covers
of the 80's and 90's, among alternative album covers today, among
classical album covers, etc. etc.) If only I enjoyed the music as
much as I liked the art....


>There *is* no accounting for taste.
>
> ELP _Tarkus_... ewwww...

Apparently not. Just curious.... other than iBdB's _Ys_ what do
you consider *good* album covers?


-- Jim C.

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Rafter242

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Greetings,

The original Faust DID come in the clear sleeve with the x-ray hand/clear
cover. Recommended is a reissue of that highly sought after 1st pressing.
Both my friend and I have the 1st press with the clear cover on Polydor.

Mark
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Always looking for the bizarre and unusual on vinyl...

James Chokey

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One person wrote:

> Rush: Hemispheres


> Yes: Going for the One.
>
> Bare male asses and cheesy art never really did it for me.


I will refrain from making any comments about what conventional
wisdom says about guys who make a point of publically expressing their
general dislike of seeing a naked male body.... :-)

Instead, I'll say that, though I never thought either of those
covers were particularly good, I'd certainly rate _Going for the One_
above _Tormato_ in this class. I'd also rate _Hemispheres_ above
any of Rush's album covers since 1982 or so.

I'll also add that if folks really want to pursue the bare male
ass theme as bad cover art, that *nothing* can hold a candle to
Guru Guru's _Hinten_ on this count! :-)


-- Jim C.

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James Chokey

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Just to add a couple of items to this list:

Biglietti Per l'Inferno's second album (_Il Tempo della Semina_, I
think). That pose is just too corny.

Happy Rhodes, _Rhodes I_ and Rhodes II_ To me at lleast, those heavy
metal stylized demons and monsters just seem so out-of-place
on her albums... even if they are supposed to reflect her
tormented mental state.

Kate Bush, _Hounds of Love_ I don't know why, but it just seems
kinda dumb to me... Actually I can't really say all that
much for any of her album covers, now that I think of it.

UK, _Danger Money_ OK, I get the idea.... the guy's washing
his hands of blood, responsibility, whatever. That doesn't
make it any more interesting or appealing to look at, however.


-- Jim C.

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Progbear

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Greg Ioannou wrote:

>I've never seen anything but the totally clear version of Faust's first. And
>their second was the everything-black album (plus a pile of nifty full-colour
>posters). Were either of them rereleased with "ordinary" packaging? Seems a
>pity!

I have the Japanese Polydor version of _So Far_, the only vinyl edition
I've ever seen, and the photo wallet is nowhere to be seen (only ever saw it at
a friend's house, the Recommended reissue of this included the photos as well).

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In article <7aljqs$50m$1...@winter.news.rcn.net>, "CountV"
<cou...@REMOVETHISPARTiname.com> wrote:

>----------
>In article <7alagq$m...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>,
>ltri...@ix.netcom.com(F.B.)
>wrote:
>
>
>> In <19990218231909...@ng133.aol.com> stood...@aol.com
>> (StoOdin101) writes:
>>>

>>>>True, but what about when there's really good music but a terrible
>> cover
>>>>illustration? Nominees?
>>>

>>>1. Selling England By The Pound
>>
>> Hah -- I had this one as one of my favorites.
>> An excellent illustration.
>
>And many people had Nursey Cryme as their favorite, which I think is an
>absolutely _awful_ painting with tacky type. SEbtP is considerably more

>accomplished, in my opinion. It just goes to show, there's no accounting
>for
>tastes.
>
>CountV
>

Well, if you don't like the art from "Nursery Cryme", you don't like Paul
Whitehead at all. I really, really dig his stuff, don't know why, since I
realize it's pretty basic, but it's just..erm... interesting :) Maybe it's
because I like the damn albums so much :)


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That would be Grand Funk Railroad's utterly forgettable 1974 effort "All The
Girls In The World, Beware!"

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possibly the cover i find most painful to look at is Yngvie Malmsteen's
_Fire and Ice_. Not only is the whole fire-from-guitar thing unbearably cheesy,
but it's executed incredibly badly. Not a bad album, tho.

noah

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James Chokey

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In article <19990221021542...@ngol03.aol.com>,
prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote:

> James Chokey wrote:
>
> > Kate Bush, _Hounds of Love_ I don't know why, but it just seems
> > kinda dumb to me... Actually I can't really say all that
> > much for any of her album covers, now that I think of it.
>

> I rather liked _Never For Ever_....

Actually, that one isn't so bad. I withdraw my complaint about
that one.


> And the original
> (British) version of _The Kick Inside_ cover (clinging to a kite) was cool, I
> thought.

Ah.... I've never seen that one. I've only seen the American cover
(which as you said, does make her look like a country singer).


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Magnus

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Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:49:25 GMT skrev Piotr Dubiel

The cover for Museo Rosenbach's *Zarathustra* is really ugly but the
music on it is excellent.

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A Cimino

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quoth Hyeong-Min Kim <hm...@umich.edu> :

>F.B. wrote:
>
>> Yes: Going for the One.
>> Bare male asses and cheesy art never really did it for me.
>>
>

>What do you think of that bare male butt on the back cover of Rush's
>2112?
>

And the hat trick - don't forget Guru Guru's _Hinten_. Real ugly butt
there...


Kjartan Almenning

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Noah Samuel Lesgold wrote:

> possibly the cover i find most painful to look at is Yngvie Malmsteen's
> _Fire and Ice_. Not only is the whole fire-from-guitar thing unbearably cheesy,
> but it's executed incredibly badly. Not a bad album, tho.

Oh, yes, a terrible album indeed.

kj


Progbear

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James Chokey wrote:

> Kate Bush, _Hounds of Love_ I don't know why, but it just seems
> kinda dumb to me... Actually I can't really say all that
> much for any of her album covers, now that I think of it.

I rather liked _Never For Ever_, kinda reminded me of all those Gervasio
Gallardo covers to the books in the original Ballantine Adult Fantasy series,
so brilliantly parodied in the cover to "Bored Of The Rings". And the original


(British) version of _The Kick Inside_ cover (clinging to a kite) was cool, I

thought. The American version makes her look like a country singer.

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david lynch wrote:

>Soft Machine has some pretty bad album covers. "Volume Two", for
>instance.

I think _Six_ in particular makes me go, "Euughhh!"

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