Flower Kings; where to start?
Thomas Davie
name Flower Kings. Looked for it on GEPR and then dl'd 1 song from Napster.
Hmmm, I like it. So I want to buy a few of their CD's. Where to start? The
song I dl'd was called I am the Sun pt. 1. Other music I like includes, but
is not limited to;
ELP
Yes
Pink Floyd
Anglagard
Anekdoten
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Eloy
Doors
Hawkwind
VDGG
I guess if I *HAD* to be pigeonholed about what type of music I like, it
would have to be 'symphonic'.
Thanks for any answers.
Tom
Bob McNeice
max. Great stuff - long playing - somewhat varied styles.
Enjoy,
Bob
Thomas Davie <thod...@home.com> wrote in message
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napra
don't start
napra
Iwan
> ...
> song I dl'd was called I am the Sun pt. 1.
That's from their last album Space Revolver. Between two albums that I
have and heard, SR and Flower Powers, I prefer SR. Grab it.
> Other music I like includes, but
> is not limited to;
>
> ELP
> Yes
> Pink Floyd
> Anglagard
> Anekdoten
> Ayreon
> Spock's Beard
> Eloy
> Doors
> Hawkwind
> VDGG
>
Hmmm ... I suggest you to check also :
Thinking Plague
Birdsongs of the Mesozoic
Univers Zero
D.F.A.
iwan
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*Legion* (Brendon Rapp)
_Retropolis_ is decent. I wouldn't go buying a ton of Flower Kings
CDs, because a number of them fail to distinguish themselves from the
rest (plus there's lots better stuff out there). If you want a couple,
_Retropolis_ and _Space Revolver_ would do you fine.
-- *L*
Bradley Evans
Thomas Davie writes:
>As a result of searching for one reference on this ng, I came across the
>name Flower Kings. Looked for it on GEPR and then dl'd 1 song from Napster.
>Hmmm, I like it. So I want to buy a few of their CD's. Where to start? The
>song I dl'd was called I am the Sun pt. 1.
That song is from the album _Space Revolver_, which is about as good a
starting place for the band as any. But really, their albums are all
quite similar, so if you like (or dislike) one you will probably like
(or dislike) all the others. That said, however, their double albums
tend to be terribly padded with substandard material and thus I wouldn't
recommend starting with either of those.
-Brad
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Noah Samuel Lesgold
> As a result of searching for one reference on this ng, I came across the
> name Flower Kings. Looked for it on GEPR and then dl'd 1 song from Napster.
> Hmmm, I like it. So I want to buy a few of their CD's. Where to start? The
> song I dl'd was called I am the Sun pt. 1. Other music I like includes, but
> is not limited to;
I find their material pretty inconsistent, but they have some damn
fine instrumentals, some of which can be found on _Retropolis_ (the
only one of theirs I actually own). Their most recent studio release,
_Space Revolver_, seems to be well-favored by Flower Kings fans, but I
haven't heard it. A lot of people seem to like _Stardust We Are_, but
because that one's a double-cd, you may not want to make the
investment in that one before you're sure you really dig the band.
--
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Andrew Bellemer
Thomas Davie wrote:
All of the Flower Kings CD I've heard seem to have the same basic sound, retro-
seventies prog rock with occasional bits of fusion or 60s-70s pop, they only
really differ in terms of quality. I would definitely recommend Space Revolver
as a starting point, it has IMO the strongest songwriting, best production, and
is a little more adventurous than their other material. If you like that, I
think you would judging by your other tastes, go on to Stardust We Are. Good
luck.
Andy B.
Andrew Bellemer
napra wrote:
> don't start
>
> napra
Thomas,
...and another piece of advice for you, don't take responses like this
too seriously.
Andy B.
Wu
says...
>
>As a result of searching for one reference on this ng, I came across the
>name Flower Kings. Looked for it on GEPR and then dl'd 1 song from Napster.
>Hmmm, I like it. So I want to buy a few of their CD's. Where to start?
There's a slightly older compilation out called "Scanning the Greenhouse",
to which I had a fairly favorable reaction. Might not be a bad thing to
try, since it's a greatest-hits kind of thing.
Avoid "Flower Power".
-B
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napra
"Andrew Bellemer" <ABel...@students.umass.edu> ha scritto
> ...and another piece of advice for you, don't take responses like this
> too seriously.
>
it was extremely serious.
napra
ScippyLisp
> I would definitely recommend Space Revolver
>as a starting point, it has IMO the strongest songwriting, best production,
>and
>is a little more adventurous than their other material.
I respectfully disagree. You will probably like Space Revolver, because I Am
The Sun is on it, but I was really disappointed in the whole "complexity"
thing. I think this is their most formulated album to date and not that
complex.
But do I like it.... yes. Just not as much.
If you like that, I
>think you would judging by your other tastes, go on to Stardust We Are. >
I think Stardust is a masterpiece, even if it is not 100% super prog. I really
enjoy this album. It is now available pretty cheaply even though it is a two
disc set if you get it at CD now or Amazon.
Either way, if you find that you like their material, you will probably end up
getting all of it.
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Mauro Faraone Moroni
>
>don't start
>
>napra
First wise words in your lifetime.
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Mauro Faraone Moroni
>I think Stardust is a masterpiece, even if it is not 100% super prog. I really
>enjoy this album. It is now available pretty cheaply even though it is a two
>disc set if you get it at CD now or Amazon.
Oh Madonna ma si puň dire una cazzata come questa?
Capolavoro questa immane porcata?
E che cazzo sono Island e Close to the Edge?
Buoni dischi?
Buone copie dei fiori?
Costui deve essere sine ullo dubio ugno gnostico della NUOVA
generazione post-faraonica.
E i Jadis che sono?
Abacab č un trippone?
E cazzo vuoi mettere le canzoni natalizie di Morse con Nonzamo?
Dio salvi l'America.
Thomas Davie
<3A8AF1CB...@students.umass.edu>:
Andy (and others); thanks for the ideas and hints. I'm gonna see if I can
pick up Space Revolver after work on Friday. I don't take the 'don't start'
advice too seriously. After all, I'm into music for enjoyment :) I can't
even tell you why I like all of the music that I do, and I really doubt
that anyone could either. Some of the music I like is simple; some is
complex. But on some level I like it, even if I can't tell someone else
precisely why.
Van Der Graaf Generator for instance; about 12 years ago, I wandered into a
second hand record shop, saw 'Still Life' and bought it because I knew what
a VDGG was. Found I liked it. Bought 'The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each
Other', And the others quite quickly after that.
But, despite my lurking in this ng on and off for as long as I remember I
never picked up on the Flower Kings (I dunno, maybe I thought they were a
country band, and I'm not knocking country....it just isn't my cup of tea).
Somehow it was a post about Landberk that wound it's way into the Flower
Kings and here I am :)
Thanks again people.
Tom
Wu
says...
>
>Andy (and others); thanks for the ideas and hints. I'm gonna see if I can
>pick up Space Revolver after work on Friday. I don't take the 'don't start'
>advice too seriously. After all, I'm into music for enjoyment :) I can't
>even tell you why I like all of the music that I do, and I really doubt
>that anyone could either. Some of the music I like is simple; some is
>complex. But on some level I like it, even if I can't tell someone else
>precisely why.
Other newcomers take note: here's a guy that actually has some common
sense. Thus, no flame war.
Really, people, it's not that difficult.
-B
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Joe Pearson
about FK. I disagree with both sentiments.
My recommendation would Retropolis, second choice would be Stardust We Are.
The second disk of Stardust is fantastic! The first is not as compelling,
but still serviceable.
You can also find a couple Flower Kings cuts on the Progfest 97 compilation,
if it's still available. Also includes songs from Le Orme, Arena, Spock's
Beard, and Sinkadus. Lots of fun!
Thomas Davie <thod...@home.com> wrote
> Where to start?
DaveRoxit
>
Wow, I was actually going to say that "Flower Power" is my favorite FK
album...(at least the first disk).
Laura's Boy Toy
others. All are very symphonic though, which is what you're looking for.
Here's a list of their releases in chronological order:
Back in the World of Adventures.
Retropolis.
Stardust We Are.*
Flower Power.*
Alive on Planet Earth.*
Space Revolver.
AoPE is a live album. The rest are studio releases. Albums with a * are
doubles. Also, the Japanese version of Space Revolver has a second disc of
bonus tracks. Guitarist/bandleader Roine Stolt has released a number of solo
albums, the best two being The Flower King and Hydophonia. (To avoid
confusion, I have to explain that Roine released his solo record The Flower
King and then formed the band we're discussing which he named after the
album.) FK keyboardist Tomas Bodin also released an solo album called An
Ordinary Night in My Ordinary Life. I've not heard it but it's supposed to
be excellent. There're two other FK albums, Scanning the Greenhouse and
Quebec something or other (I can't remember the exact title). I haven't
heard either but AFAIK, both are compilation albums.
In article <GHzi6.1091$TU6.1...@news1.rdc1.mb.home.com>, thod...@home.com
Wu
says...
>
>Wow, I was actually going to say that "Flower Power" is my favorite FK
>album...(at least the first disk).
To each his own. I found it utterly uninspiring, and after numerous listens
found that it had left absolutely no impression on me. I didn't even find
the melodies that catchy, the way I did some of the ones on "Scanning the
Greenhouse".
-B
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Zero the Hero
> Other newcomers take note: here's a guy that actually has some common
> sense. Thus, no flame war.
> Really, people, it's not that difficult.
Well, 'common sense' is actually an oxymoron, so maybe it is :-)
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ScippyLisp
>Oh Madonna ma si può dire una cazzata come questa?
>Capolavoro questa immane porcata?
>E che cazzo s....
Another brilliant, witty, and informative contribution from our resident
moroni.
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napra
"Laura's Boy Toy" <brigittesbudA...@home.com> ha scritto
FK keyboardist Tomas Bodin also released an solo album called An
> Ordinary Night in My Ordinary Life. I've not heard it but it's supposed to
> be excellent.
no, it's boring
napra
Mauro Faraone Moroni
>
>
>
>>Oh Madonna ma si puň dire una cazzata come questa?
>>Capolavoro questa immane porcata?
>>E che cazzo s....
>
>Another brilliant, witty, and informative contribution from our resident
>moroni.
Grazie caro.
E' consolante sapere che anche le bestie ti apprezzano.
stuart pledger
I preferred it when you answered in English. I know it's not your native
tongue but I have to guess at the amount of venom contained in your last few
posts.
I rarely agree with your opinions on SB, FK, Transatlantic, DT etc. but
always take note of your views on Europrog.
By the way, how is the warehouse now after the recent flooding?
Stuart.
*Legion* (Brendon Rapp)
>E' consolante sapere che anche le bestie ti apprezzano.
Immersi in questo mare
voi gelerete in eterno
"Signori presidenti"
con la vostra politica
avete tessuto ogni inganno
e tradito l'ideale dell'uomo.
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>
> Avoid "Flower Power".
>
Do NOT avoid Flower Power!!!! It's got a 60-minute opus called Garden of
Dreams which is superb.
Squirrel Police
I like the word "opus" too. Opus, opus, opus.
Mauro Faraone Moroni
<stuart....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Hi Mauro,
>
>I preferred it when you answered in English. I know it's not your native
>tongue but I have to guess at the amount of venom contained in your last few
>posts.
Hi Stuart,
The country of Prog is ITALY. (See Gnosis).
So YOU have to learn our language!
Ma chi son io, uno scimmione, senza ragione
Fuggiresti via da me io non posso possederti
Francesco di Giacomo
>
>I rarely agree with your opinions on SB, FK, Transatlantic, DT etc. but
>always take note of your views on Europrog.
Oh another British who loves Jadis and Moria Falls?
>
>By the way, how is the warehouse now after the recent flooding?
Alive and well, thanks.
TOIB
>>Grazie caro.
>>E' consolante sapere che anche le bestie ti apprezzano.
> Immersi in questo mare
> voi gelerete in eterno
> "Signori presidenti"
> con la vostra politica
> avete tessuto ogni inganno
> e tradito l'ideale dell'uomo.
Er, thanks Jimmy.
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Mauro Faraone Moroni
>I don't know Mauro :-) After hearing some of this stuff coming out of
>Hungary in the 1990's, I'm not so sure anymore :-) The 1970 italian
>scene is my favorite from the 70's but the hungarian scene is quickly
>becoming my favorite of the 1990's. I don't know but there's quite a bit
>of 90's stuff from Hungary that I like just as much as any of the 70's stuff
>from italy. The 90's output from Italy is more like a watered down
>version of what they were doing in the 70's. So maybe you need to learn
>Hungarian Mauro ;-)
You are drinking too much wine those days Theron.
You need other 5 copies of Exploit.
Terrell Miller
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> thod...@home.com (Thomas Davie) writes:
>
> A lot of people seem to like _Stardust We Are_, but
> because that one's a double-cd, you may not want to make the
> investment in that one before you're sure you really dig the band.
Amazon had SWA for $14.99 in January, so you may check there, you might
still be able to get the double-CD for about the same price as a single. Of
the FK albums I've heard, it's my favorite, although you can't go wrong with
any of them, they're a great band! :)
--
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Mauro Faraone Moroni
<terrel...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>Amazon had SWA for $14.99 in January, so you may check there, you might
>still be able to get the double-CD for about the same price as a single. Of
>the FK albums I've heard, it's my favorite, although you can't go wrong with
>any of them, they're a great band! :)
Too RIO IMNHO
napra
"Mauro Faraone Moroni" <mor...@pangea.it> ha scritto
> Too RIO IMNHO
> --
no, zeuhl.....like Magma
napra
Mauro Faraone Moroni
The main problem with the flower shits is that all their "songs" are
too different in style so that you can hardly recognise the band.
In 15 years and 300 albums they never played a song that remembers of
another.
In a few words: they are really too original for our poor italian
silly fans.
ProgMAP
Mauro Faraone Moroni wrote:
>
> On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:15:57 GMT, "napra" <na...@libero.it> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mauro Faraone Moroni" <mor...@pangea.it> ha scritto
> >
> >
> >> Too RIO IMNHO
> >> --
> >no, zeuhl.....like Magma
> >
> >napra
>
> The main problem with the flower shits is that all their "songs" are
> too different in style so that you can hardly recognise the band.
> In 15 years and 300 albums they never played a song that remembers of
> another.
> In a few words: they are really too original for our poor italian
> silly fans.
Anyone would think you don't like them, Mauro. :)
Mauro Faraone Moroni
wrote:
>
>
>Mauro Faraone Moroni wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:15:57 GMT, "napra" <na...@libero.it> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Mauro Faraone Moroni" <mor...@pangea.it> ha scritto
>> >
>> >
>> >> Too RIO IMNHO
>> >> --
>> >no, zeuhl.....like Magma
>> >
>> >napra
>>
>> The main problem with the flower shits is that all their "songs" are
>> too different in style so that you can hardly recognise the band.
>> In 15 years and 300 albums they never played a song that remembers of
>> another.
>> In a few words: they are really too original for our poor italian
>> silly fans.
>
>Anyone would think you don't like them, Mauro. :)
Me?
I love Retropolis.