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Jerry Ritz

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I would say Anglagard-"Hybris" Which has been out of print for awhile
now. Or a bootleg of demos from the Hybris sessions which is a very
interesting document of the album in it's early stage.

JERRY


ScippyLisp

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I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels do
you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?


I can't think of too many in my case right now (I'll contribute some later. I
am interested in hearing others' responses.)


One that does stand out, that has come up recently is:

Cast - A View of Cast.

A live Cast CD that was limited to 1000 (that I know of). I stumbled acrossed
it one day. Cool!


So, anyone else??????


sean

The Kinder, Gentler Bastard

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ScippyLisp is to machines what machines are to men:

> I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels do
> you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?

I don't know who would outright *drool* <G>

> One that does stand out, that has come up recently is:

> Cast - A View of Cast.

> A live Cast CD that was limited to 1000 (that I know of). I stumbled acrossed
> it one day. Cool!

> So, anyone else??????

I don't have a lot of stuff that is not widely available... a few
LPs that are hard to find on CD (Clearlight Symphony), FM Headroom (was
never released on CD), IQ's Nine in a Pond is Here LP (with
not-on-CD fourth side), RDM _Contamination_ (english version of the album
not on CD)...

For CDs I have a bunch of bootlegs that were limited to 500-1000
pressings (probably fairly standard rarity for those actually), the first
Echolyn, that's about it really. A few OOPs that probably aren't simple to
get but probably not terribly hard either...

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Alan J. Mallery

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ScippyLisp (scipp...@aol.com) wrote:


: I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels do


: you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?

: I can't think of too many in my case right now (I'll contribute some later. I


: am interested in hearing others' responses.)

I don't know if anyone is drooling over these, but here are some cds which
seem to be in short supply:


Echolyn - s/t, Suffocating the Bloom, ..and every Blossom.
Within Temptation - Enter, The Dance. Dutch gothic prog-metal like The
Gathering.
Runic Wand - Elil. Obscure but good neo, from Germany I think.
Triumvirat - Sparticus
Gentle Giant - Glass House
Rick Wakeman - Criminal Record

Alan

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The Cynic

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Seventh Wave/Psi-Fi
Volker Kriegel & Spectrum/Mild Maniac
Om w/Dom um Romao
Satin Whale/Desert Places
Colosseum/Live
Klaus Doldinger/Jubilee (3LP)
101'ers/Elgin Avenue Breakdown
Nektar/Live at the Roundhouse
The Cheerful Insanity of/Giles Giles & Fripp

I might think of more..

Cheers -
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The Barrow Man

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ScippyLisp wrote:

> I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels do
> you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?

Some of the following albums are rarer than others; some you may not
even consider all that rare, but I find myself lucky to own them as I
haven't seen them around too much. "Progness" may vary, however, and
drool factor will probably be limited to the more hardcore obscurity
hunters, but hey, what the hell... all are vinyl and mostly originals:

Charles Kaczynski - Lumière de la nuit
Ptarmigan - Ptarmigan
Jean-Baptiste Barrière - Ville ouverte
Zoviet France - Norsch (foil cover)
Tangerine Dream - early albums on Ohr
Carol of Harvest - Carol of Harvest (a reissue but still hard to find...
one of my fav albums ever!)
Nurse With Wound - Merzbild Schwet
Donovan - HMS Donovan
Early Banco originals on Dischi Ricordi
Bunch of early Italian LPs like le Orme, PFM, others on labels like
Numero Uno, Cramps, etc.
Tangerine Dream - Quichotte (the East German live LP on Amiga... bought
in Poland for fifty cents!)
Pink Floyd - Ummagumma with "Gigi" cover
Et Cetera - Et Cetera
Pollen - Pollen
Pagan Altar - s/t
Franck Dervieux - Dimension M
Contraction - La bourse ou la vie
Pierre Henry - Voile d'Orphée
Pierre Henry / Michel Colombier - Psyché Rock
Pink Floyd bootlegs...
Fugs - s/t
SBB - 1,2, Memento z Banalnym Tryptykiem
Exodus - The Most Beautiful Day, Supernova (Polish prog, not the 80s
thrash band)
L'engoulevent - L'engoulevent
Serge Locat - solo album, I forget the title, I love this thing...
Harmonium - En tournée
Dionne/Brégent - first album, Deux
Humanist Advent - Concepts Invasion
Dionysos - Le prince croule

I'm getting carried away... maybe I just can't choose!

...plus all my rare techno records (early Aphex Twin/Rephlex, Skam,
Warp, etc).

There are probably others, but if my house was burning, I would go and
save these first. :)

...Piotr

Mike

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ScippyLisp wrote:

>I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels
>do
>you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?

Airlord: _Clockwork Revenge_
Rainbow Theatre: _The Armada_ (vinyl, not that crappy bootleg CD that came out
last year)
Mirage: _now you see it..._ (great fusion album!)
Biglietto Per l'Inferno: same (original vinyl on Trident)
Latte e Miele: _Papillon_ (original gatefold vinyl on Polydor)
inSpe: _Ansambel "inSpe"_ (rare first album, with different lineup and style
from the Musea disc)
Sloche: both albums
Edition Speciale: _Aliquante_ (rare 2nd album)
Carmen: _Dancing on a Cold Wind_ (both rare vinyl *and* out-of-print CD)
Il Volo: out-of-print 2-on-1 CD of both albums
Bachdenkel: _Stalingrad_ (vinyl...not all that good, but rare!)
Between: _Einstieg_

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Alex Volperts

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ScippyLisp wrote:
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> I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels do
> you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?
> So, anyone else??????

Univers Zero - Crawling Winds EP

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J. Hage

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On 09 Jul 1999 00:46:01 GMT, ScippyLisp <scipp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels
do
>you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?
>
>
>I can't think of too many in my case right now (I'll contribute some later. I
>am interested in hearing others' responses.)
In the progressive area:
Arti & Mestieri - Tilt (the original album, bought it new but slightly warped
for
less than $3 five years ago! From a vault somewhere in Holland)
These albums also included three old Area albums (also <$3) and Lou Reeds
Metal Machine Music (for $4). Lucky day I guess.
Bizarre Ko.Ko.Ko. - 00 time (Schulze like stuff from Austria)
Fire in Hamorny and the first Exposure compilation. Nostaligic stuff.
The old Pendragon tapes and Twelfth Night before Fact and Fiction.
The original IQ Seven stories into eight tape.
Porcupine tree - Tarquin's seaweed farm, Love, Death and Mussolini (only a
copy) and Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape.
Outer Limits - Scene of Pale Blue vinyl
...
...
I stopped now

Things I regard as weirdly exceptional (since I only saw them once in
somebody's collection):
Machiavel - the live album
Timo Laine 2


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Marc P. Guilbert

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On 09 Jul 1999 00:46:01 GMT, scipp...@aol.com (ScippyLisp) wrote:
>
>I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels do
>you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?
>
That presumes others would know what these rare jewels sound like.
Here's my list, mostly jazz as it turns out:

Hammer s/t (not rap... jazz-rock fusion from San Francisco records in
1970 with a GREAT organist, Norm Landsberg)

It's a Beautiful Day, Live at Carnegie Hall

Egg, Polite Force

Kate Bush, Live at Hammersmith

Maynard Ferguson Band, the early 70's "MF Horn" Columbia albums

Dave Brubeck, Adventures in Time (2 LP best of set including live
versions of Blue Rondo and Take Five)

Barry Miles and Eric Kloss, Together (Barry played keys on Al
DiMeola's early solo albums, and Eric is a blind sax player. The
interplay between them verges on the incredible, especially since they
could not rely on visual cues for the changes)

Barry Miles, Sky Train

Keith Jarrett, Sun Bear Concerts (6 CD set)

Dregs, Industry Standard

Skywalk, s/t (pleasant jazz fusion from Canada)

Ralph Towner, Solstice

Raphael Rudd, Awakenings

...as well as Anglagard, Echolyn, Triumvirat, Refugee, Argent, Enid...

Gog

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The Barrow Man <pio...@home.com> wrote:

>Some of the following albums are rarer than others; some you may not
>even consider all that rare, but I find myself lucky to own them as I
>haven't seen them around too much. "Progness" may vary, however, and
>drool factor will probably be limited to the more hardcore obscurity
>hunters, but hey, what the hell... all are vinyl and mostly originals:

<snip>

>Charles Kaczynski - Lumière de la nuit

>Harmonium - En tournée
>Dionne/Brégent - Deux

Those are some of the Lps I cleaned up and transfered to CD-R.
Recent releases from Gog Productions include Neil Chotem: Live
au El Casino ( with Harmonium crew ), Maneige: Composite ( live),
Morse Code: La marche des hommes and Pat Metheny Group: Live
at the Montréal jazz festival '89.

Larry G.
g0g@videotron dot ca
Gog Productions: http://pages.infinit.net/balaf

Gog

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prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Mike) wrote:

>>I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels
>>do
>>you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?

<snip>
> Sloche: both albums

Those are on Gog Productions too...

Alexandre A. S.

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In article <19990708204601...@ng-cb1.aol.com>,
scipp...@aol.com (ScippyLisp) wrote:

>I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare
>jewels do you have that you know would cause many to drool because
>they don't have it?
>

OK, let's see..

A GOTA SUSPENSA - funny brazilian early 80s prog + new wave!
AGAMEMNON - Parts I & II - swiss symphonic prog not on CD yet
(private pressing).
ALGARAVIA - Dedilhado - demo cassete, predating their album. The
music is better, but the sound quality sucks.
ANGLAGARD - both albums on LP :)
BUON VECCHIO CHARLIE - rare CD of early italo prog.
BURNING CANDLE - obscure german keyboards prog, not on CD.
CIRCUS - Fearless Tearless and Even Less - not on CD, great GG-ish
swiss band.
CLEARLIGHT - Les contes du singe fou - again, not on CD, but supposed
to be real soon...
CORNUCOPIA - Full horn - funky brazilian pressing, with poster cover
(yes, it folds in 4 parts to form a huge poster!)
DRUGI NACIN - one of the best yugo hard prog bands.
DUNWICH - Il chiorore - picture LP!
EILIFF - both albums on LP, mint! These are up for trade, though...
ET CETERA - canadian band, the LP has a beautiful thick cover.
EXODUS - both , great symphonic prog from Poland.
EZRA WINSTON - Ancient afternoons - leaders of the italian prog
renaissance in the 80s...
FERNANDO PACHECO - Himalaia - very pleasant album from the guitarrist
of Recordando o Vale das Macas. One side is a Camel-like workout, the
second is acoustic.
FINISTERRE - first album on LP :) Beautiful, thick cover.
FM - Direct to disc - I need another copy of this...
FIREBALLET - Night on bald mountain - it's not *that* rare, but it's
not out on CD :(
GOTIC - Escenes - The LP has probably the most beautiful prog cover
ever. I made a poster and plastered it all over my walls :) Oh, and the
vinyl sounds *so* much better than the badly mastered CD!
IN SPE - first one. way better than the "typewriter" one...
ISLAND - another one in the series of "gorgeous LP covers". Despite
Ken's great work on the CD reissue, the fat vinyl still sounds great!

... and many more :)


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I have:

How We Live -- s/t (Marillion vocalist Steve Hogarth's band before
Marillion. I have an original CD, with the tray card autographed by
Hogarth.)

Echolyn -- s/t (One of my first "underground" prog purchases.)

Triumvirate -- Spartacus (Highly sought after.)

Todd Rundgren -- Acapella (Very rare on CD)

Roy Harper -- Whatever Happened to Jugula (very rare on CD, but being
reissued soon?)

Agitation Free -- Original master CD of "At the Cliffs" 1974 concert CD.
(One of a handfull in existence, according to the dude from Agitation
Free, and different from the CD that was released! Got it in the ProgDay
auction.)

Fish -- Toiling the Reeperbahn (Hard to find official bootleg.)

Jed


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"Alan J. Mallery" wrote:

> I don't know if anyone is drooling over these, but here are some cds which
> seem to be in short supply:
>

> Within Temptation - Enter, The Dance. Dutch gothic prog-metal like The
> Gathering.

Oh yeah, that's a good band. I have _Enter_. I wasn't sure I was making a good move
when I bought it, because I knew it had some death-like growls (of which I'm not fond
of) in addition to the beautiful female vocals. I was pleasantly surprised. I'd still
prefer if there weren't any male vocals, or at least they should be 'clean', but they
still work fairly well, and the female vocals tend to take up more space anyway.
Maybe not the most original CD in existence, at least not nowadays, with all those
new, more sophisticated metal bands coming out, but still worth checking out. They do
sound somewhat like The Gathering, but I think it's mostly because of Sharon den
Adel's voice, which is very similar to Anneke van Giersbergen's (of The Gathering).
The similarity is even more obvious when you listen to Ayreon's _Into the Electric
Castle_, which features both singers, as the Indian and the Egyptian. I think I have
a slight preference for Anneke's voice, but Sharon's is almost as good. And both
women are quite attractive, if I may say so.

François Arsenault


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In article <19990708204601...@ng-cb1.aol.com>,
scipp...@aol.com (ScippyLisp) wrote:
>
>
> I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare
jewels do
> you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't
have it?

Oh I normally hate threads like this, but I feel like bragging
about my CD's (YMMV):

echolyn - s/t (autographed), Suffocating the Bloom, And Every Blossom EP

Porcupine Tree - Voyage 34, Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape

Aragon - Rocking Horse

Pink Floyd - black label Dark Side of the Moon (that's the original CD
pressing when it was being manufactured in Japan)

Dream Theater - Subconcious (private pressing by Ytsejammer of
rarities). I also have their complete "covers gig" show on tape, but I
promised not to trade that so don't ask. :) I'm sure it's made the
rounds through others anyway.

Zazen - Atlantis, Mystery School (is this still in print?), Tantra.
This is from when they were an outstanding prog band (not the newage
crapola they've been dishing out lately).

Klaus Schulze - Historic Edition

Marillion - Sugar Mice CD single (if someone wants to make me a big fat
offer on this, I might be talked into it :), tour fund CD.

plus some other stuff I'm probably forgetting.

-- David Kuznick dkuz...@world.std.com

dkuz...@my-deja.com

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ajma...@ouray.cudenver.edu (Alan J. Mallery) wrote:

> Echolyn - s/t, Suffocating the Bloom, ..and every Blossom.

Copy cat. But my s/t's autographed. :-P

> Within Temptation - Enter, The Dance. Dutch gothic prog-metal like
The
> Gathering.

Yeah, I was just listening to a disc of theirs I picked up at NEARfest.
They are fabulous! So these are OOP/rare I gather? I forget which one
I got... If you can stand a little death-vox (and they're very well
done and not brutal) these guys are great.

> Triumvirat - Sparticus
> Gentle Giant - Glass House

Oh yeah, forgot about those. me too.

> Rick Wakeman - Criminal Record

Bastard.

dkuz...@my-deja.com

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Arsenault <wa...@quebectel.com> wrote:

> a slight preference for Anneke's voice, but Sharon's is almost as
good. And both
> women are quite attractive, if I may say so.

You may. I'm almost ready to strart my own crush thread re: Anneke. ;)
I'm also tempted to ditch seeing Roger Waters here in Boston Aug 4th,
to catch The Gathering in NYC instead... Sigh... Boston gets passed
over again, damnit.

Dave Platt

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In article <19990708204601...@ng-cb1.aol.com>,
scipp...@aol.com (ScippyLisp) wrote:

> I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare
> jewels do you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't
> have it?

Well, if I'm allowed to cite a few from my LP collection:

- Airlord, "Clockwork Revenge"

- FM, "Direct to Disk"

- Stomu Yamashta, the whole "Iroha" cycle (three albums, four LPs)

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dkuz...@my-deja.com wrote:
: In article <7m3nf1$ht0$1...@news.cudenver.edu>,

: ajma...@ouray.cudenver.edu (Alan J. Mallery) wrote:

: > Echolyn - s/t, Suffocating the Bloom, ..and every Blossom.

: Copy cat. But my s/t's autographed. :-P

: > Within Temptation - Enter, The Dance. Dutch gothic prog-metal like
: The
: > Gathering.

: Yeah, I was just listening to a disc of theirs I picked up at NEARfest.
: They are fabulous! So these are OOP/rare I gather? I forget which one
: I got... If you can stand a little death-vox (and they're very well
: done and not brutal) these guys are great.

They're not oop but they were hard to get a hold of. I had to mail-order
them from the Netherlands. I think I like their mini-cd The Dance better.
With just a little bit of death vox it provides a counterpoint to Sharon.
I like her voice a lot. A new band I just got w/ fem vox is 'Dreams of
Sanity'. Mr. Golden has their 1st

: > Rick Wakeman - Criminal Record

: Bastard.

;)

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Alexandre A. S.

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>Agitation Free -- Original master CD of "At the Cliffs" 1974 concert CD.
>(One of a handfull in existence, according to the dude from Agitation
>Free, and different from the CD that was released! Got it in the ProgDay
>auction.)
>

Do you know what's different?? I love this album...


NP: FLAMING LIPS "The soft bulletin"

mystic

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Mike O'Hagan

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Progwise I do own a copy of Mort Garson's sought after "Lucifer: A Black
Mass" which is not yet on cd. I also have an album titled "Head" which
was a one shot Moog psych record from the early 70's. One of the tracks
is titled "LSD". Both lp's are instrumental electronic music.
I've been interested in the weirder, more experimental examples of new
wave and punk from the late 70's/early 80's. The stuff I've collected so
far is only on oop vinyl and a few may never be issued on cd.

Monitor: This self titled album is the only release (besides a single)
from this gloom rock band formed in S.California in the late 70's. I
believe them to be the first American goth band. They where friends with
Boyd Rice who appeared on their single. This lp is noted for an
appearance by the Meat Puppets when that band was just starting out in
the underground music scene.
Pink Section: I have an ep & single from this arty punk band from
Berkeley. The four member group consisted of two guys and two gals. They
incorporated a synth or two in their sound.
Screamers: They never recorded an album but demos they made where
released on bootleg vinyl with some live tracks. The Screamers where one
of the most unique bands from the late 70's LA punk scene. They didn't
play any guitar or bass, instead they used an Arp Odyssey synth and a
Rhodes electric piano.
Nervous Gender/Beelzebub Youth: Two very obscure bands that shared a
split lp in 1981. Nervous Gender was rather notorious in the LA
underground for their brand of twisted synth punk. Beelzebub Youth was
actually sort of a side project of NG that did a kind of bizarre and
experimental satanic new wave. The name of the split lp btw was titled
"Music From Hell".


Wylie

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Ahh... How to resist this thread?

YS lp, way cherry.
Porcupine Tree Spiral Circus lp
Porcupine Tree Metanoia (3 copies - make me an offer)
Capsicum Red lp
Tarot box w/all inserts

...and so on.

Of course, if Larson responds to this thread we'll all be humbled, methinks.

Wylie

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Frank Swarbrick

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> In article <19990708204601...@ng-cb1.aol.com>,
> scipp...@aol.com (ScippyLisp) wrote:
> >
> >
> > I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare
> jewels do
> > you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't
> have it?
>
> Oh I normally hate threads like this, but I feel like bragging
> about my CD's (YMMV):
>
> echolyn - s/t (autographed), Suffocating the Bloom, And Every Blossom EP

All right, now, I think the echolyn albums have to be disqualified based
simply on the fact that everyone seems to be mentioning them!

And yes, I have all three of them.

> Porcupine Tree - Voyage 34, Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape
>
> Aragon - Rocking Horse

Hmm, I have Don't Bring the Rain. Is that rare? It's the only Aragon I
have. How are their others, anyway?

> Pink Floyd - black label Dark Side of the Moon (that's the original CD
> pressing when it was being manufactured in Japan)
>
> Dream Theater - Subconcious (private pressing by Ytsejammer of
> rarities). I also have their complete "covers gig" show on tape, but I
> promised not to trade that so don't ask. :) I'm sure it's made the
> rounds through others anyway.
>
> Zazen - Atlantis, Mystery School (is this still in print?), Tantra.
> This is from when they were an outstanding prog band (not the newage
> crapola they've been dishing out lately).
>
> Klaus Schulze - Historic Edition
>
> Marillion - Sugar Mice CD single (if someone wants to make me a big fat
> offer on this, I might be talked into it :), tour fund CD.

I don't know that I have anything that's particularly rare. Well, I don't
suppose to many people have Electrum's _Frames of Mind_, but it's not even
on a label as far as I can tell, and it's only been out a year, so I don't
think it counts.

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Well, I'm a member of the DGM collectors club....can't wait to get a CD
burner.....SO I CAN MAKE BACKUPS, DUMMY! Makes me nervous as Hell to know that
if I screw up a copy that I may not be able to get a replacement.

These CDs aren't exactly rare, but I wonder if anyone else on this newsgroup
has them:

Miles Davis Panthalassa (Bill Laswell remix)

Ekstasis Wake Up And Dream

William Burroughs Dead City Radio

Sonny Sharrock Ask The Ages

N.P. John Cale Fragments of a Rainy Season

Eric

Plsntgrn

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>I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels
>do
>you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?

I have an original stone-mint vinyl copy
of 'From Genesis To Revelation' (NOT
the fan club version) complete with lyric
insert. Got it at a record show for $12.
Happiest day of my life!
I also have a first edition pressing of
Echolyn "Suffocating The Bloom" signed
by all 5 members.
Second happiest!
Geoff

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Alexandre A. S. wrote:

> ANGLAGARD - both albums on LP :)

I got the vinyl of _Hybris_ back in Progfest '93, Änglagård's first
appearance in the U.S., a great show! The booklet that comes with it is
different from that which comes with the CD (which I got later, the second
pressing, a couple years ago).

> BUON VECCHIO CHARLIE - rare CD of early italo prog.

Recorded, but never released, in the early 70's.

> BURNING CANDLE - obscure german keyboards prog, not on CD.
> CIRCUS - Fearless Tearless and Even Less - not on CD, great GG-ish
>swiss band.
> CLEARLIGHT - Les contes du singe fou - again, not on CD, but supposed
>to be real soon...

I really, really love this album. All those synthesizers plus Cyrille
Verdeaux's heavenly piano and Didier Lockwood's virtuosic violin playing. I'm
glad I found a copy of this, cool cover art.

> CORNUCOPIA - Full horn - funky brazilian pressing, with poster cover
>(yes, it folds in 4 parts to form a huge poster!)

I wonder if the original Brain pressing did.

> DRUGI NACIN - one of the best yugo hard prog bands.
> DUNWICH - Il chiorore - picture LP!
> EILIFF - both albums on LP, mint! These are up for trade, though...
> ET CETERA - canadian band, the LP has a beautiful thick cover.

Yeah, and a slightly different tint from the CD cover. I like the way they
added photos of the band members today for the reissue, very cool.

> EXODUS - both , great symphonic prog from Poland.

Sadly, I only have the better of the two (_The Most Beautiful Day_) on
tape. I do have the vinyl of _Supernova_, but it's not as good an album.

> EZRA WINSTON - Ancient afternoons - leaders of the italian prog
>renaissance in the 80s...
> FERNANDO PACHECO - Himalaia - very pleasant album from the guitarrist
>of Recordando o Vale das Macas. One side is a Camel-like workout, the
>second is acoustic.
> FINISTERRE - first album on LP :) Beautiful, thick cover.

There's an LP of this? What label?

> FM - Direct to disc - I need another copy of this...
> FIREBALLET - Night on bald mountain - it's not *that* rare, but it's
>not out on CD :(

Yeah, there isn't much on the Passport label that's really rare, apart
from maybe the two Ice albums, which I've never seen, and the initial CD
pressings of the later Utopia albums.

> GOTIC - Escenes - The LP has probably the most beautiful prog cover
>ever. I made a poster and plastered it all over my walls :) Oh, and the
>vinyl sounds *so* much better than the badly mastered CD!
> IN SPE - first one. way better than the "typewriter" one...

I don't think it's either intrinsically better or worse than the second.
Both are excellent albums, but vastly different in style. The first is more
impressionist symphonic music that reminds me of early Kenso with a medieval
flair, while the second is offbeat jazzy fusion reminding me of Maneige with a
guest performer on typewriter. BTW, you're the only other person I know who
owns the first. You wouldn't have any spare copies of Gorizont or Ariel lying
around, would you? ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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> I don't think it's either intrinsically better or worse than the second.
> Both are excellent albums, but vastly different in style. The first is more
> impressionist symphonic music that reminds me of early Kenso with a medieval
> flair, while the second is offbeat jazzy fusion reminding me of Maneige with a
> guest performer on typewriter. BTW, you're the only other person I know who
> owns the first. You wouldn't have any spare copies of Gorizont or Ariel lying
> around, would you? ;-{)>

Ariel is not of any problem to get here on CDs... I never bothered with
them, though...

I have both Gorizonts on tape - they both seriously rule, but it is not
easy to get 'em.

The first In Spe is owned by one friend of mine, and he said, that this
album couldnt be bought from the ssops, it should be ordered through
some special soviet mailorder....

Andrew Russ

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Might as well chime in, though some of this won't be really prog.

I have a copy of the first pressing of the first Unrest LP from 1986.
This is the DC-pased harDCore punk trio that took their name
from a henry Cow song. These early albums were decorated by hand,
so my copy is in that sense unique. The music itself was remastered,
speed corrected, and remixed some and generally buffed up for a
CD reissue.

Also on TeenBeat (the Unrest label), i have some of the early cassette
releases, many of which came out in small editions, like 20; though maybe the
rarest version is the FunBox of reissues of 16 of the tapes -- only 10
were made, so in a way it's even rare than the notorious Throbbing
Gristle _24 Hours_ boxed set.

Society for Cutting Up Merzbow CS -- copy #8/10 with original painting
by Arthur Potter on the insert.

Psychic TV -- _Blinded Eye of the Pyramid_ -- one of 93 copies packaged in
a Nepalese made passport bag with hand-sewn psychic cross patch.

_The Hafler Trio Play the Hafler Trio_ -- one of 100 copies with glow in the
dark
lettering.

And some rare titles that i've only seen one or two copies of (including mine):

Lotti Golden's second (self-titled) LP on GRT
The Nihilist Spasm Band second LP (1978)
John Bender's second album
_The Paul Simon Song Book_ -- Paul's UK-only 1965 solo LP (i even have the
original cover).
_Ascent into Now_ -- on Channel One recordings -- some electronic experimentalist

from Las Vegas does side-long meditations that come with write-ups to make
them sound like some lkind of industrial research/mind-control project.
The American Research Team -- _Sounds for Meditation_ -- very oddball 1973
cassette of of electronic noises designed to induce meditation.

I'm sure there's more if i think about it, though maybe not so much stuff that's
in any demand by anybody.

andrew

Burley Wright

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Not an album, but I have a 45 by the Mothers of Invention.
How Could I Be Such a Fool b/w Help I'm a Rock.

Loznik

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"One Day a New Horizon", by Protos (1980, IIRC). Approx. 400 pressings
only. Anyone ever hear of this one?


Loznik {:-)>

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All the things that I offer you."

Jonathan Roberts

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ScippyLisp wrote:

> I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare jewels do
> you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have it?

I expect a fair number of folks here have one, but I've only run into
one other person who has a copy of Dashiell Hedayat's <Obsolete> on LP.
Have no idea how much of a jewel this may be.

--

Best,

-- Jon

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I love this thread.

LP:

I have an original pressing of Pentateuch/Book in great condition, might
consider selling.

Creme/Godley-L ( cd Polygram please )

Public Foot The Roman

Rick Wakeman's Criminal Record

Scope 1

Scope ll

David Sancious-Forest Of Feelings

David Sancious & Tone-Transformation-The Speed Of Love

David Sancious & Tone-True Stories

David Sancious-Just As I Thought

Pulsar-Halloween

Machiavel-Jester

Mars Everywhere

Hellfield

Zon-Astral Projector(Blue Vinyl)

Zon-Back Down To Earth

Gabriel Bondage-Another Trip To Earth(White Vinyl)

Gabriel Bondage-Angel Dust

Flying Island

Flying Island-Another Kind Of Space

Flight

Flight-Incredible Journey

Esperanto-Rock Orchestra

Esperanto-Danse Macabre

Esperanto-Last Tango

Greasy Truckers

Home-The Alchemist

Ramses-Space Hymns

Ramses-Glass Top Coffin

Ramases-La Leyla

Perigeo-Fata Morgana

Ragnarok-Fata Morgana

Flame Dream-Out In The Dark

Flame Dream-Supervision

Travaganza

Gary Boyle-The Dancer

Gary Boyle-Friday Night Again

Eloy-Planets(pic disk)

Keith Emerson-Inferno

Fruupp-Seven Secrets

Fruupp-Modern Masquerade

Wind-Morning

Vanessa-Black and White

Hydravion

Cluster ll

Clearlight Symphony

UK-Night After Night(Jap. Gatefold with stage pic.)

Babylon

Baby Grand-Ancient Medicine

Aphasia

Intergalactic Touring Band

Byzantium

Robert John Godfrey-Fall Of Hyperion

eela craig-virgin oiland

Shiva-Fire Dance

Demon-The Unexpected Guest

Demon-The Plague

Yes-Stellar Attraction(boot/Relayer Tour)

Lynx-We Are The People

The Ladder

Sherbs-The Skill

Visage

IXT ADUX-Brainstorm


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PFTR, Ragnarok-Fata Morgana

I'll have to listen again and get back to ya on these.


Cerebus

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Hmmm, the only one that springs to mind is Jon Anderson's "3 Ships" on
vinyl.....and I hate it! I got it for less than a dollar years ago and I don't
think I've managed to listen to the whole thing more than once.

Oh yeah, I don't know how rare these are but I have the first Thinking
Plague and "The Pentateuch of the Cosmogony" by Dave
Greenslade and Patrick Woodroffe, both on vinyl. Are these actually
rare?

Cerebus


thax

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Dave Platt wrote in message <93155467...@news.remarQ.com>...

>
>Well, if I'm allowed to cite a few from my LP collection:
>
>- Airlord, "Clockwork Revenge"


A friend was kind enough to make me a tape of this a while back - it's a
super album. Anyone know if this has been reissued on a bootleg CD
anywhere? Last time I saw Greg Walker's stash there seemed to be several
Australian prog CD boots...

mike t

ScippyLisp

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>Public Foot The Roman

>Ragnarok-Fata Morgana
>


What are these like???

<drool>

sean

Alexandre A. S.

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prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Mike) wrote:

>Alexandre A. S. wrote:
>
>> ANGLAGARD - both albums on LP :)
>
> I got the vinyl of _Hybris_ back in Progfest '93, Änglagård's first
>appearance in the U.S., a great show! The booklet that comes with it is
>different from that which comes with the CD (which I got later, the second
>pressing, a couple years ago).
>

People think the artwork on that tiny CD booklet looks great... But
you can't get the full effect until you take a look at the LP artwork,
and that beautiful booklet, full of photos (not on the CD booklet!).
"Epilog" has a more "standard" look, but the cover is thicker.

>> BUON VECCHIO CHARLIE - rare CD of early italo prog.
>
> Recorded, but never released, in the early 70's.
>

Exactly. Issued in the early 90s by a japanese label called "Melos".

>> CLEARLIGHT - Les contes du singe fou - again, not on CD, but supposed
>>to be real soon...
>
> I really, really love this album. All those synthesizers plus Cyrille
>Verdeaux's heavenly piano and Didier Lockwood's virtuosic violin playing.
>I'm glad I found a copy of this, cool cover art.
>

Mine is mint too :) It's on my list of albums to convert to CD-R.

>> CORNUCOPIA - Full horn - funky brazilian pressing, with poster cover
>>(yes, it folds in 4 parts to form a huge poster!)
>
> I wonder if the original Brain pressing did.
>

Never seen the Brain pressing :(

>> ET CETERA - canadian band, the LP has a beautiful thick cover.
>
> Yeah, and a slightly different tint from the CD cover. I like the way
> they added photos of the band members today for the reissue, very cool.
>

Yes, and the CD sounds good too, as far as CD reissues go.

>> EXODUS - both , great symphonic prog from Poland.
>
> Sadly, I only have the better of the two (_The Most Beautiful Day_)
>on tape. I do have the vinyl of _Supernova_, but it's not as good an album.
>

Yes, "Supernova" is too "early 80s" for me. But their singer has "the
most beautiful voice" this side of Jon Anderson...

>> FINISTERRE - first album on LP :) Beautiful, thick cover.
>
> There's an LP of this? What label?
>

Of course! On Mellow! The LP has a bonus track... And it sounds
terrific!

>> FIREBALLET - Night on bald mountain - it's not *that* rare, but it's
>>not out on CD :(
>
> Yeah, there isn't much on the Passport label that's really rare,
>apart from maybe the two Ice albums, which I've never seen, and the
>initial CD pressings of the later Utopia albums.
>

It's not rare, just sought after :) It's a good album, with no CD
reissue in sight...

>> IN SPE - first one. way better than the "typewriter" one...
>

> I don't think it's either intrinsically better or worse than the
> second. Both are excellent albums, but vastly different in style.
> The first is more impressionist symphonic music that reminds me
> of early Kenso with a medieval flair, while the second is offbeat
> jazzy fusion reminding me of Maneige with a guest performer on
> typewriter. BTW, you're the only other person I know who owns the
> first. You wouldn't have any spare copies of Gorizont or Ariel
> lying around, would you? ;-{)>
>

Yes, the "Typewriter" one is good too, but I just like the first one
better... It's more prog :)
You probably know somebody else with a copy of the first one... Ash
Ram Tom probably has one... :)
Ah, Gorizont... Well, I'm still looking for copies of those... But
they don't come easy... If I had some more information about it (label,
year of issue, country, etc), I could try to track down some copies...


NP: INVISIBLE "Invisible"

Alexandre A. S.

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loz...@garbage.bigfoot.com wrote:

>"One Day a New Horizon", by Protos (1980, IIRC). Approx. 400 pressings
>only. Anyone ever hear of this one?
>

I have never heard it, but I've heard lots about it... It's a major
rarity... I bet you payed a dime for it :)

TIMOTHY GUEGUEN

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Mike O'Hagan (Son-of...@webtv.net) wrote:
: Progwise I do own a copy of Mort Garson's sought after "Lucifer: A Black

: Mass" which is not yet on cd. I also have an album titled "Head" which
: was a one shot Moog psych record from the early 70's. One of the tracks
: is titled "LSD". Both lp's are instrumental electronic music.
: I've been interested in the weirder, more experimental examples of new
: wave and punk from the late 70's/early 80's. The stuff I've collected so
: far is only on oop vinyl and a few may never be issued on cd.

: Monitor: This self titled album is the only release (besides a single)
: from this gloom rock band formed in S.California in the late 70's. I
: believe them to be the first American goth band. They where friends with
: Boyd Rice who appeared on their single. This lp is noted for an
: appearance by the Meat Puppets when that band was just starting out in
: the underground music scene.

Too bad Rice turned into a Neonazi nitwit.

tim gueguen 101867

TIMOTHY GUEGUEN

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WWID3000 (wwid...@aol.com) wrote:
: Well, I'm a member of the DGM collectors club....can't wait to get a CD

: burner.....SO I CAN MAKE BACKUPS, DUMMY! Makes me nervous as Hell to know that
: if I screw up a copy that I may not be able to get a replacement.

: These CDs aren't exactly rare, but I wonder if anyone else on this newsgroup
: has them:

: Miles Davis Panthalassa (Bill Laswell remix)

: Ekstasis Wake Up And Dream

If this is the second album by Nicky Skopelitis under this name I'd love
to get a copy.

: William Burroughs Dead City Radio

: Sonny Sharrock Ask The Ages

Great album, probably one of the best things Sharrock appeared on.

tim gueguen 101867

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>I love this thread.
>
>LP:
>

[snip!]

>Public Foot The Roman
>
Pretty decent album in the Spring/Kestrel/Jonesy mould, but no Mellotron,
so hasn't become as legendary. Later metamorphosed (with different vocalist)
into the pub-rock group The Movies.

>Scope 1
>
>Scope ll
>
Hmm... I've always been curious about these. What are they like?

>Flying Island
>
>Flying Island-Another Kind Of Space
>

I have _Another Kind Of Space_, which is derivative but cool. How does the
first compare. This isn't the rarest prog on the Vanguard label, though. That
honour goes to the Flashman album, which I've been looking for for years
without success.

>Esperanto-Rock Orchestra
>
>Esperanto-Danse Macabre
>
>Esperanto-Last Tango
>

Wow, on CD? The Japanese CD's of these (on Pony Canyon) seemed to be in
print for just a day. _Danse Macabre_ is, IMO, an unjustly overlooked classic.

>Home-The Alchemist
>
Saw a CD of this a while back. Worth it?

>Ramses-Space Hymns
>
>Ramses-Glass Top Coffin
>
>Ramases-La Leyla
>

Oops! A little mix-up here. In any case, I have the American release of
Ramses' _La Leyla_ (on the Annuit Coeptis label), featuring "Noise", a remixed
version of "War" with different lyrics not on the German Sky-label release.

>Ragnarok-Fata Morgana
>
I have _Fjärilar i Magen_, which is generally regarded as their best. I'd
heard of Ragnarök before, but not this album, and had no idea how rare it was
when I bought it (considered it a "risky purchase" at the time, only going to
prove that sometimes risks are worth taking!)

>Fruupp-Seven Secrets
>
Hmph! Only one of theirs I don't have. And I should have jumped at the
chance to get the Japanese CD of _Prince of Heaven's Eyes_ with the bonus track
when it was still available.

>Fruupp-Modern Masquerade
>
Found this one in a Salvation Army thrift store! Totally threw me for a
loop!

>Wind-Morning
>
You're not the guy I met at Progfest a few years ago who told me you found
this in a 50¢ bargain bin, are you? If so, I hate you. ;-{)>

>Vanessa-Black and White
>
Got this one too. On Compendium, which was an odd little label, obscure
Norwegian fusion (Saluki, that band featuring ex-Ruphus keyboardist Hakon Graf,
etc.) on one end, and British fusion items like _Now You See It_ by Mirage and
Hugh Hopper's _1984_ on the other.

>Cluster ll
>
I've got the second Brain pressing of this, still gatefold, but with an
orange label.

>eela craig-virgin oiland
>
Not as good as their earlier albums, but certainly one of the hardest to
find. I've never seen it, at any rate. Perhaps the most obscure item I know of
by them is a 1974 single, "Stories" b/w "Cheese", both early versions of songs
that later turned up on _Hats of Glass_. It was owned by a guy from Vancouver
that I also met at Progfest. "Stories" later turned up, with different lyrics,
as the closing vocal passage in "Hats Of Glass" the song. "Cheese",
instrumental on _Hats Of Glass_, has a vocal section here! Lots of Mellotron on
both! He tacked both these (along with "Mo Bike Jive", the B-side to the "Carry
On" single) onto a tape of a bootleg from a 1986 concert. I didn't know they
were even still together then.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Alexandre A. S. wrote:

>>> IN SPE - first one. way better than the "typewriter" one...
>>
>> I don't think it's either intrinsically better or worse than the
>> second. Both are excellent albums, but vastly different in style.
>> The first is more impressionist symphonic music that reminds me
>> of early Kenso with a medieval flair, while the second is offbeat
>> jazzy fusion reminding me of Maneige with a guest performer on
>> typewriter. BTW, you're the only other person I know who owns the
>> first. You wouldn't have any spare copies of Gorizont or Ariel
>> lying around, would you? ;-{)>
>>
>
> Yes, the "Typewriter" one is good too, but I just like the first one
>better... It's more prog :)

Well, more symphonic. IMO, they're both equally prog.

> You probably know somebody else with a copy of the first one... Ash
>Ram Tom probably has one... :)

Nope. Guess who taped his copy for him. :-{)>

> Ah, Gorizont... Well, I'm still looking for copies of those... But
>they don't come easy... If I had some more information about it (label,
>year of issue, country, etc), I could try to track down some copies...

Well, of course they're on the former Soviet Union State Label, Melodia.
_Summer In Town_ (sorry, don't remember the Russian title, and in any case I
can't replicate Cyrillic on my computer, so it would have to be the Latin
approximation) is from 1986, and _Portrait Boy_ is from 1989. I think those are
the right dates.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Mike wrote:

> > Ah, Gorizont... Well, I'm still looking for copies of those... But
> >they don't come easy... If I had some more information about it (label,
> >year of issue, country, etc), I could try to track down some copies...

Hold on :)



> Well, of course they're on the former Soviet Union State Label, Melodia.

What else coud it be in USSR ?:)

> _Summer In Town_ (sorry, don't remember the Russian title, and in any case I

Letnij Gorod - its more like Summer City

> can't replicate Cyrillic on my computer, so it would have to be the Latin
> approximation) is from 1986,

1985 I think...

> and _Portrait Boy_ is from 1989. I think those are the right dates.

Portret off The Boy - Portret Malchika. Its from1 1989, right...

Both albums were issued in small quantities, and have been selling for
laughable prices...

Gog

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scipp...@aol.com (ScippyLisp) wrote:

>>Ragnarok-Fata Morgana
>
>
>What are these like???

Some elements of their previous ( great ) Fjarilar i Magen,
but with a jazzier touch ( sax added ) and heavier.
I made a transfer to CD-R for "Gog Productions"...

Larry G.
g0g@videotron dot ca
Gog Productions: http://pages.infinit.net/balaf

Alexandre A. S.

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In article <19990712034934...@ngol01.aol.com>,
prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Mike) wrote:

>Alexandre A. S. wrote:
>
>>>> IN SPE - first one. way better than the "typewriter" one...
>>>
>>> I don't think it's either intrinsically better or worse than the
>>> second. Both are excellent albums, but vastly different in style.
>>> The first is more impressionist symphonic music that reminds me
>>> of early Kenso with a medieval flair, while the second is offbeat
>>> jazzy fusion reminding me of Maneige with a guest performer on
>>> typewriter. BTW, you're the only other person I know who owns the
>>> first. You wouldn't have any spare copies of Gorizont or Ariel
>>> lying around, would you? ;-{)>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the "Typewriter" one is good too, but I just like the first one
>>better... It's more prog :)
>
> Well, more symphonic. IMO, they're both equally prog.
>

Yes, more symphonic...

>> You probably know somebody else with a copy of the first one... Ash
>>Ram Tom probably has one... :)
>
> Nope. Guess who taped his copy for him. :-{)>
>

Jeeez... I feel honoured now :)

>> Ah, Gorizont... Well, I'm still looking for copies of those... But
>>they don't come easy... If I had some more information about it (label,
>>year of issue, country, etc), I could try to track down some copies...
>

> Well, of course they're on the former Soviet Union State Label,

> Melodia. _Summer In Town_ (sorry, don't remember the Russian
> title, and in any case I can't replicate Cyrillic on my computer,
> so it would have to be the Latin approximation) is from 1986, and

> _Portrait Boy_ is from 1989. I think those are the right dates.
>

I'll see if I can unearth some copies of those... I asked the label
because I thought it might've been a private pressing.


NP: ITOIZ "Ezekiel"

Loznik

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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:36:55 -0300, "Alexandre A. S." <asi...@usa.net>
suggested:

>In article <3788ed85...@alpha.news.global.net.uk>,
>loz...@garbage.bigfoot.com wrote:
>
>>"One Day a New Horizon", by Protos (1980, IIRC). Approx. 400 pressings
>>only. Anyone ever hear of this one?
>>
>
> I have never heard it, but I've heard lots about it... It's a major
>rarity... I bet you payed a dime for it :)
>

Really?
Ah, excellent. My wife and I have one each - hers is signed by the
fellow who formed the band. Hee hee.

Cheers.

dkuz...@my-deja.com

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In article <7m5qie$k1u$1...@news.cudenver.edu>,
ajma...@ouray.cudenver.edu (Alan J. Mallery) wrote:
> dkuz...@my-deja.com wrote:
> : In article <7m3nf1$ht0$1...@news.cudenver.edu>,
> : ajma...@ouray.cudenver.edu (Alan J. Mallery) wrote:

> : > Within Temptation - Enter, The Dance. Dutch gothic prog-metal
like
> : The
> : > Gathering.
>
> : Yeah, I was just listening to a disc of theirs I picked up at
NEARfest.
> : They are fabulous! So these are OOP/rare I gather? I forget which
one
> : I got... If you can stand a little death-vox (and they're very well
> : done and not brutal) these guys are great.
>
> They're not oop but they were hard to get a hold of. I had to
mail-order
> them from the Netherlands. I think I like their mini-cd The Dance
better.

I got Enter from Ken Golden at NEARfest.

> With just a little bit of death vox it provides a counterpoint to
Sharon.
> I like her voice a lot. A new band I just got w/ fem vox is 'Dreams
of
> Sanity'. Mr. Golden has their 1st

Yeah, I got Komodia from him as well. :) Ken's words, "I'll buy
anything with lesbians in lace on it" :) It's also a good disc.

-- David Kuznick dkuz...@world.std.com


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In article <7m6huc$8ek$1...@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>,
"Frank Swarbrick" <inf...@sprynet.com> wrote:

> All right, now, I think the echolyn albums have to be disqualified
based
> simply on the fact that everyone seems to be mentioning them!

:) Though enough people still seem to be dying for 'em...

> >
> > Aragon - Rocking Horse
>
> Hmm, I have Don't Bring the Rain. Is that rare?

It's currently OOP I beleive, but I'd bet more people have that than
Rocking Horse (or the Meeting EP which maens I don't really need to get
the new release of Mouse).

> It's the only Aragon
I
> have. How are their others, anyway?

If you like DBtR, you'll like the others (just stay away from Mr. Angel.
They decided they needed to release a pop disc). I personally think
they overstretched themselves on Mouse, but many people love it. I
still think it's worth getting.

> I don't know that I have anything that's particularly rare. Well, I
don't
> suppose to many people have Electrum's _Frames of Mind_, but it's not
even

> on a label as far as I can tell, and it's only been out a year, so I
don't
> think it counts.

Especially since you can get 'em for $5 from NSA (at least you were a
few months ago). Real nice disc too.

Dgasque

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In article <19990712034934...@ngol01.aol.com>,
prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Mike) wrote:

"Alexandre A. S." <asi...@usa.net> writes:

>>> Ah, Gorizont... Well, I'm still looking for copies of those... But
>>>they don't come easy... If I had some more information about it (label,
>>>year of issue, country, etc), I could try to track down some copies...
>>
>> Well, of course they're on the former Soviet Union State Label,
>> Melodia. _Summer In Town_ (sorry, don't remember the Russian
>> title, and in any case I can't replicate Cyrillic on my computer,
>> so it would have to be the Latin approximation) is from 1986, and
>> _Portrait Boy_ is from 1989. I think those are the right dates.
>>
>
> I'll see if I can unearth some copies of those... I asked the label
>because I thought it might've been a private pressing.
>

The guy that runs the music mailorder outfit "Zounds Ltd." out of Erlanger, KY.
(can't remember his name right offhand...) used to have a few reliable Russian
traders he did business with. I picked up quite a number of East Euro prog LPs
from him a few years back, including the Gorizont and In Spe titles. I can't
remember his email addy immediately but i'll do some checking...

WWID3000

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>: Ekstasis Wake Up And Dream
>If this is the second album by Nicky Skopelitis under this name I'd love
>to get a copy.

Ekstasis is actually a group, but, in my opinion, it's Skopelitis' third album.

The sound quality is a little poor at times but I still love this disc.

It can be ordered from www.cyberoctave.com

These are the musicians (copied from the webpage):

Nicky Skopelitis: 6 &12 String Guitars, Acoustic Guitar, Electric Sitar,
Baglama
Bill Laswell: Bass, Sounds
Jaki Liebezeit: Drums (CAN)
Jah Wobble: Bass (PIL, Invaders of The Heart)
Zakir Hussain: Tabla (Ravi Shankar,John McLaughlin)
Badal Roy: Tabla (Miles Davis, Ornette Coleman)

Eric.

N.P. David Byrne -The Forest


lase...@webtv.net

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Is this rare?

Roy Wood's Superactive Wizzo Band


lase...@webtv.net

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Mike, I only went to Prog-fest '95. But I paid $1.50 for my
Wind-Morning. I hope you don't hate me anymore.

Scope IIRC, were a German Prog-Fusion outfit like Passport/Brand X and
very good musicians.

eela craig-virgin oiland has a Beatle's cover: All You Need Is Love
I purchased it brand new the same day I got Nektar-Man In The Moon @ 3rd
st Jazz & Rock/Phila. Pa. Heard they went out of business, probably
couldn't hang with Tower.
I would consider e-mail offers for the craig, it is in mint - condition,
I only played it 3 times since 1983.

Ramases/Ramses=yeah! I aways get those mixed up.

Home-The Alchemist is great, but hard to describe, I need to re-listen
for the comparison. Yes, it's worth it I know that. They have another
called Home I think, but never heard it.

Esperantos are all LP, agree that Danse Macabre is special. Bought it
because it was produced by Pete Sinfield. Wow, what a musical treat on
that first listen.

NP: Styx-Brave New World-Eclectic and surprising, enjoyable for the most
part.


lase...@webtv.net

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.........Contin.

Flying Island-see the thread called what does this sound like? LOL

Female violinist plays on Fates Warning's Perfect Symmetry.


Mike

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Mike O'Hagan wrote:

> Progwise I do own a copy of Mort Garson's sought after "Lucifer: A Black
> Mass" which is not yet on cd. I also have an album titled "Head" which
> was a one shot Moog psych record from the early 70's. One of the tracks
> is titled "LSD". Both lp's are instrumental electronic music.
> I've been interested in the weirder, more experimental examples of new
> wave and punk from the late 70's/early 80's. The stuff I've collected so
> far is only on oop vinyl and a few may never be issued on cd.

Cool. You wouldn't have Bruce Haack's _The Electric Lucifer_ or _The Way
Out Record For Children_, would you? _The Electric Lucifer_ is one of those
items I once found in a record store, and have been kicking myself ever since
for not buying.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Garcia Marquez

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Mike

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Loznik wrote:

>>>"One Day a New Horizon", by Protos (1980, IIRC). Approx. 400 pressings
>>>only. Anyone ever hear of this one?
>>>
>>
>> I have never heard it, but I've heard lots about it... It's a major
>>rarity... I bet you payed a dime for it :)
>>
>Really?
>Ah, excellent. My wife and I have one each - hers is signed by the
>fellow who formed the band. Hee hee.

More importantly, what does it sound like?

Dgasque

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In article <29403-378...@newsd-263.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
lase...@webtv.net writes:

>Scope IIRC, were a German Prog-Fusion outfit like Passport/Brand X and
>very good musicians.

Dutch, IIRC- and better than both above bands IMO. Reissues, anyone?!?

=dg=

Magnus

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12 Jul 1999 07:49:34 GMT skrev Mike

> I have _Fjärilar i Magen_, which is generally regarded as their best. I'd
> heard of Ragnarök before, but not this album, and had no idea how rare it was
> when I bought it (considered it a "risky purchase" at the time, only going to
> prove that sometimes risks are worth taking!)

Is this available as CD or is it OOP?

--
Mvh Magnus Lundin
Http://www.algonet.se/~elp


TIMOTHY GUEGUEN

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How about Henry Kaiser's
Mahjong Hell, a cassette released on John Oswald's Mystery Tapes label.
Its various bits Kaiser recorded on 4 track in the early 80s, including
prep for his second album with Fred Frith. Oswald does some fiddling
with some of the tracks, and it has a terrific version of Captain
Beefheart's "Alice In Blunderland." I also have Salmonmoose by Kaiser,
Oswald, and trumpter Toshinori Kondo, but thats free improv.

Hideo Yamaki, Shadowrun: I don't really know anything about drummer
HIdeo Yamaki other
than seeing his name associated with Kazumi Watanabe, but i ordered this
one because it had Bill Laswell, Ginger Baker, Bernie Worrell etc on it.
It turned out to have been recorded during the Japanese tour that
resulted in Material, Live In Japan, making this a companion album to
it. Some nice stuff on it with "world beat" elements to it, and it also
heavily features Japanese saxophonist Yasuaki Shimizu.

Ruins and Umezu: A live cassette featuring the Ruins and Japanese
saxaphonist Kazutoki Umezu.

Rick Wakeman 1984.

Group 87, A Career in Dada Processing: Mark Isham's early 80s group. I
believe this one didn't stay in print hugely long and I don't know if its
ever been released on CD.

Ground Zero, Revolutionary Pekingnese Opera: I have the original
pressing of this one before Otomo Yoshihide remixed it for Recommended or
whoever it was remixed for.

tim gueguen 101867

NP: Can Tago Mago.

Loznik

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On 13 Jul 1999 08:32:34 GMT, prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Mike) suggested:

>Loznik wrote:
>
>>>>"One Day a New Horizon", by Protos (1980, IIRC). Approx. 400 pressings
>>>>only. Anyone ever hear of this one?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have never heard it, but I've heard lots about it... It's a major
>>>rarity... I bet you payed a dime for it :)
>>>
>>Really?
>>Ah, excellent. My wife and I have one each - hers is signed by the
>>fellow who formed the band. Hee hee.
>
>More importantly, what does it sound like?
>

Slightly derivative (á la 70's ELP, Gabriel-Genesis, 70's Camel).
Instrumental three piece band. Guitarist was Hackett-influenced, and
fairly good. Keyboardist was self-taught and reasonably handy with
string synth, bass pedals and Korg. Original drummer simply kept time
(all you can say about him, really), later drummers were much better.
The band was great fun at gigs.

I gather examples of this album are being exchanged for silly money by
Far Eastern collectors.

I had a tape of a particular composition of theirs, once. The band
came back to me one day a couple years later, saying, "Hey, didn't you
have a tape of 'The Rabbit'? We can't remember how it goes, can we
borrow it?" I found that I had taped over it, thus missing my
opportunity for global stardom. <sniff>

Alexandre A. S.

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In article <378B0BE4....@algonet.se>, "Magnus" <e...@algonet.se>
wrote:

>12 Jul 1999 07:49:34 GMT skrev Mike
>
>> I have _Fjärilar i Magen_, which is generally regarded as their
>> best. I'd
>> heard of Ragnarök before, but not this album, and had no idea how
>> rare it was when I bought it (considered it a "risky purchase" at
>> the time, only going to prove that sometimes risks are worth
>> taking!)
>
>Is this available as CD or is it OOP?

Is this the Swedish Ragnarok??? I've only seen their s/t album on
CD... Are these better???


NP: TRIADE "1998"

Mike

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Magnus wrote:

>> I have _Fjärilar i Magen_, which is generally regarded as their best.
>I'd
>> heard of Ragnarök before, but not this album, and had no idea how rare it
>was
>> when I bought it (considered it a "risky purchase" at the time, only going
>to
>> prove that sometimes risks are worth taking!)
>
>Is this available as CD or is it OOP?

It was never available as a CD. I believe only the first Ragnarök is in
print on CD now. I believe their last two, _2 Signs_ and _Well..._, are out of
print, and _Fjärilar i Magen_ and _Fata Morgana_ have never been reissued on
CD, so used vinyl only.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Dgasque

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In article <7mg8pi$h9u$1...@missing.its.to>, ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (TIMOTHY
GUEGUEN) writes:

>Group 87, A Career in Dada Processing: Mark Isham's early 80s group. I
>believe this one didn't stay in print hugely long and I don't know if its
>ever been released on CD.

One of their two CDs has been released on CD. I thought it was this one.

=dg=

J. Mcglinchey

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On 14 Jul 1999, Dgasque wrote:

> >Group 87, A Career in Dada Processing: Mark Isham's early 80s group. I
> >believe this one didn't stay in print hugely long and I don't know if its
> >ever been released on CD.
>
> One of their two CDs has been released on CD. I thought it was this one.

I have it on CD (One-Way Records). If anybody wants to buy it, make me an
offer! :)

Joe M.
U of Washington
http://students.washington.edu/joemcg

MinServ93

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Hawkwind's Space Ritual, double CD set (rather than two separate discs, which
seems to be the way I've seen it before).

One More Chance - This has some "rare" stuff : Happy The Man by Genesis; Theme
One by Van Der Graff Generator; plus offerings from The Nice, String Driven
Thing, Jo'burg Hawk, Graham Bell with Arc, and **** yes!! **** Monty Python!!!

Genesis on vinyl :
* Live From The Mouth Of The Monster (1978 Chicago, made in Australia)
* The Hottest Ticket
* Revelatory Genesis 80:78 (Fountain Of Salmacis from Knebworth, 1978!)
* You'll Love Us Live (picture disc)


Alexandre A. S.

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In article <19990715224544...@ng-fg1.aol.com>,
mins...@aol.com (MinServ93) wrote:

>Genesis on vinyl :
>* Live From The Mouth Of The Monster (1978 Chicago, made in Australia)

Ha! I have this one :)

NP: M EFEKT "Svitanie"

Kyle Jones

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Not prog at all, but I have a vinyl copy of Y&T's first album, "Yesterday
and Today". I don't know if my "Script for a Jester's Tear" LP picture disc
is rare or not.

- Kyle

Dario Axelrud

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Alexandre A. S. escreveu na mensagem ...

>In article <19990715224544...@ng-fg1.aol.com>,
>mins...@aol.com (MinServ93) wrote:
>
>>Genesis on vinyl :
>>* Live From The Mouth Of The Monster (1978 Chicago, made in Australia)
>
> Ha! I have this one :)


And it sounds great !!!

Best proggy regards , Dário IQ Axelrud , BRAZIL
da...@imp-americana.com.br

Dario Axelrud

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Kyle Jones escreveu na mensagem <7mnqte$c...@dfw-ixnews14.ix.netcom.com>...


I guess it is , and BTW , I have all Marillion LP's on picture disc !!!

Dgasque

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True Myth- s/t, anyone?

=dg=

Taliesin

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Dgasque <dga...@aol.com> wrote in
<19990717121708...@ngol03.aol.com>:

>True Myth- s/t, anyone?
>
>=dg=
Is this rare? I'll have to take better care of my copy then.

Taliesin

Dgasque

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In article <8E07DE70...@news.interlog.com>, Taliesin
<rbe...@interlog.comxxx> writes:

I don't think it's anywhere near "common".

=dg=

bogdan

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Here are my rarities:

Vinyl:
Rascal Reporters-Ridin'On A Bummer (this is their first LP,
only 450 pressed and I have 2 copies..historic LP, because
of Frith and Hodgkinson playing together)
Circus- Movin' On/Tearless... (excellent swiss band)
Grandfalloon-S/T (excelent fusion/progress. band, not on CD)
Beyond-Music..AND Beyond (rare Texas prog/psych. band with
Hawkwind infl., not on CD)

cd'S
Both Marsupilami CD's
Dark (orig. on Kissing spell, only 1000 copies pressed)

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Do I have a chance of replacing these with CD releases:-
Man Becomes Man - Kenny Henson & Ramsey Mackay (ex-Abstract Truth /Freedoms
Children) - WCC sponsored.
GoodThunder - Electra '72
Automatic - Jack Bruce
Roller Coaster Weekend - Joe Vitale
Voice - Capability Brown
Horizen - Jade Warrior

and finally a new distortion free Kingdom Come remix!

Al Kingdom Compureno

NP - Snowflakes Are Dancing - Tomita


Dave Platt

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>Horizen - Jade Warrior

Roughly a snowball's chance in hell on this one, I'm afraid. Neither
the folks who have the rights to the album, nor the surviving members
of Jade Warrior, seem to have any interest at all in seeing it
reissued in any form. In fact, Jon Field is personally quite opposed
to a re-release.

--
Dave Platt dpl...@radagast.org
Visit the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior/
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Mike

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bogdan wrote:

>Grandfalloon-S/T (excelent fusion/progress. band, not on CD)

This is the prog band on the Takoma label, right? I thought it was really
weird that they would issue such a thing, as pretty much all their other output
was folk-oriented. Can anyone prove me otherwise?

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Dwalin - The Green Book

Just got this Chilean band cd , rumour says only 50 or 100 copies made !

BTW , it's neo prog , in the IQ / Jadis vein , quite good .

A Cimino

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quoth "Prog Czar" <cz...@telerama.com> :

>Hi,
>this seems to be an old thread, and I don't check rmp often at all.
>
>I also have the DASHIELL HEDAYAT "Obsolete" LP album(seen one other offered
>...)
Yup, got that one myself...

>
>AKSAK MABOUL "Onze Danses Pour Combattre le Migraine" BELG Crammed
>AQSAK MABOUL "..Pour L'ame des Bandits" BELG Atem/Crammed

Great albums - I managed to acquire both this very month...
We also share these in common:

>COMBO FH "Veci(Things)" CZECH Panton
>LES I "Ou Bien" FR AYAA
>ART ZOYD "Phase IV" UK Recommended
>ART ZOYD "Symphonie Pour Joie Bruleront Les Cites" FR Cryonic
>STEVE TIBBETTS "s/t," "Yr" US Frammis
>THE WORK "Slow Crimes" UK Woof
>MNEMONISTS "Horde" UK Recommended
>FAUST "So Far," -w/ pictures!- "The Last LP" UK Recommended
>STOMU YAMASH'TA'S EAST WIND "Freedom is Frightening" ITA Orrizonte w/Hugh H
>NEWS FROM BABEL "Work Resumed../Sirens..," "Letters Home" UK Recommended
>NEU! "Black Forest Gateau" UK Cherry Red
>HOWEVER "Sudden Dusk" US Random Radar Records
>CURLEW "s/t," US Landslide "North America" UK? Moers
>HENRY COW "Concerts" NOR Ogun
>DEBILE MENTHOL "Battre Campagne, "..Jardin Patrologique" SWISS RecRec
>CAN "Delay 1968," ITA Base "Unlimited Edition" UK? United Artists
>CLEARLIGHT "Visions" FR Polydor
>ART BEARS "Hopes and Fears" US Random Radar Records
>DAEVID ALLEN/GILLI SMYTH "Magick Brother/Mystic Sister" UK Affinity
>GONG "Continental Circus," FR Philips "Est Mort, Vive Gong" FR Tapioca

Do you have anything by either Art Fleury or Alesia Cosmos? Two
proggish bands with an experimental flair that I've got a couple of
records by each. - only came across one guy who'd heard of the former
(are you there, dgasque?), and nobody for the latter.

doug marcus

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ScippyLisp wrote in message
<19990708204601...@ng-cb1.aol.com>...
>
>
>I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare
jewels do
>you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have
it?
>
i have a copy of the christmas live album with all the inserts written by
bob bryden. it includes stuff from heritage as well as the closing from the
spirit of. it sounds like a typical bootleg album, but i do believe it to be
an official release. i had never heard of christmas until i got a hold of
ken golden's catalogue from the laser's edge. the spirit of christmas album
knocked me out. i later saw in goldmine that metro music was selling this
extremely limited edition of a live album by christmas. it was not jacked up
too high that can be a common practice in the collector's market. the only
problem is that its vinyl and my turntable crapped out awhile ago so it
doesn't get played much.

Prog Czar

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Hi,
this seems to be an old thread, and I don't check rmp often at all.

I also have the DASHIELL HEDAYAT "Obsolete" LP album(seen one other offered
...)

I will list some other 'personal copies' I think are special and of note:
KEITH TIPPETT'S ARK "Frames: Music for an Imaginary Film" NOR OGUN **4
Sale!!
EAST OF EDEN "Snafu" US Deram
COS "Postaeolian Train Robbery," "Viva Bomma" BELG Best Seller
PICCHIO DAL POZZO "Abbiamo Tutti I Suoi Problemi" ITA L'Orchestra


AKSAK MABOUL "Onze Danses Pour Combattre le Migraine" BELG Crammed
AQSAK MABOUL "..Pour L'ame des Bandits" BELG Atem/Crammed

SENSATIONS FIX "Vision's Fugitives" US All Ears
MAXOPHONE "s/t" GER Produttion Associati -eng. lang.-
DEDALUS "Materiale per tre Essecutori.." ITA Trident
CRESSIDA "Cressida" UK Vertigo
AMON DUUL II "Phallus Dei" GER Strand
AFTER DINNER "Paradise of Replica" SWISS RecRec
IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO "YS" ITA Polydor -70's 'Special' reish-
ANGE "Le Cimitiere du les Arlequines" FR Philips
IL BARICENTRO "Sconcerto," "Trusciant" ITA EMI
ICEBERG "Coses Nostres," "Sentiments" SP Boccacio
SLAPP HAPPY "s/t," UK Virgin "Desperate Straights" UK Recommended
WHITE NOISE "An Electric Storm" US Island
ROBERT WYATT "The Animals Film," Rough Trade "The End of an Ear" CBS 70's
re.


COMBO FH "Veci(Things)" CZECH Panton

PLASTIC PEOPLE of the Universe "Passion Play," "Leading Horses" CAN Bozi
Mlyn
FINCH "Glory of the Inner Force," Dutch Negram "Galleons of Passion" UK
Rockburgh
MODRY EFEKT & Czech Radio Jazz Orch. "Nova Syntesis 2" CZECH Panton
SBB "Ze Stowem do Biegne Ciebie," Nowy Horizont" POL Muxa
ANAWA "s/t" POL Muxa
SKALDOWIE "Sforziata Swenia Czesc Druga" POL Muxa
GIZMO "Victims" UK private press Sleep-n-Eat ***for Sale!!!
SILVER APPLES "s/t," "Contact" US Kapp
HELLEBORE "IL Y A des Jours" FR AYAA Ltd. Ed. # 773/1067


LES I "Ou Bien" FR AYAA
ART ZOYD "Phase IV" UK Recommended
ART ZOYD "Symphonie Pour Joie Bruleront Les Cites" FR Cryonic

QUARTERMASS "s/t" US Harvest ***for Sale!!
ARK 2 "Flaming Youth" HOL Fontana -w/ Phil Collins(1968)-
ALAN SORRENTI "Aria" ITA Harvest
ETRON FOU LELOUBLAN "Batelages" FR Gratte Ciel
QUATEBRIGA "Revolution in the Zoo" YUG Brut


STEVE TIBBETTS "s/t," "Yr" US Frammis
THE WORK "Slow Crimes" UK Woof

MOTHER MALLARD'S Portable Masterpc Co. "Like a Duck to Water" US Earthquack
MAGMA "s/t" FR Philips -trick cover-


MNEMONISTS "Horde" UK Recommended
FAUST "So Far," -w/ pictures!- "The Last LP" UK Recommended

HUGH HOPPER "1984," UK Atmosphere "Hopper-Tunity Box" NOR Ogun
FIREBALLET "Night on Bald Mtn.," "Two, Too"
HOPPER/DEAN/TIPPETT/GALLIVAN "Cruel But Fair" NOR Ogun
IBLISS "Supernova" GER Aamok


STOMU YAMASH'TA'S EAST WIND "Freedom is Frightening" ITA Orrizonte w/Hugh H

NICO "The Marble Index," BELG Elektra "Desert Shore" UK Reprise
CATHERINE JAUNIAUX/TIM HODGKINSON "Fluvial" UK Woof


NEWS FROM BABEL "Work Resumed../Sirens..," "Letters Home" UK Recommended
NEU! "Black Forest Gateau" UK Cherry Red
HOWEVER "Sudden Dusk" US Random Radar Records

RASCAL REPORTERS "Happy Accidents" UK? Hebbardesque
MIRIODOR "Recontres" CAN Rio
PRINCIPAL EDWARD'S MAGIC THEATRE "Soundtrack" US Dandelion
POOH "The Best of Pooh" US Peters
KHAN "Space Shanty" GER Brain -gatefold-
JULVERNE "A Neuf" BELG Crammed
SOFT HEAP "s/t" UK Charly
SOFT MACHINE "Peel Sessions '69-'71" UK Strange Fruit
GILGAMESH "s/t" UK Caroline -no cover-
DOCTOR NERVE "Out to Bomb Fresh Kings" US Punos


CURLEW "s/t," US Landslide "North America" UK? Moers

ANDRE DUCHESNE "Les Tempes des Bombes" CAN Ambiances Magnetiques
CONVENTUM " '77-'79 + Reedition" CAN Ambiances Magnetiques


HENRY COW "Concerts" NOR Ogun
DEBILE MENTHOL "Battre Campagne, "..Jardin Patrologique" SWISS RecRec

THE DOUBLING RIDERS "Doublings and Silences Vol. I & II" ITA Auf Dem Nil
BRUNO MEILLIER/FERDINAND RICHARD "Bruniferd" SWISS RecRec
SCOTT FEIGENBAUM/TOM SCOTT "Things are More Like.." US Random Radar
SOLUTION "Divergence" HOL Harvest
SPIN "s/t" US Ariola


CAN "Delay 1968," ITA Base "Unlimited Edition" UK? United Artists
CLEARLIGHT "Visions" FR Polydor

SRP "s/t" POL STL


ART BEARS "Hopes and Fears" US Random Radar Records
DAEVID ALLEN/GILLI SMYTH "Magick Brother/Mystic Sister" UK Affinity
GONG "Continental Circus," FR Philips "Est Mort, Vive Gong" FR Tapioca

THIRD EAR BAND "Alchemy," "s/t," "Music for Macbeth" UK Harvest
KEVIN AYERS "Whatevershebringswesing" UK Harvest

..and there's more.
~Strictly vinyl, man.
((I also sell records. contact:cz...@telerama.com))
Hopefully, my eclectic tastes will make new friends and/or customers...
Cesar Montesano

NP: Ceiling Fan
Jonathan Roberts wrote in message <37891F4D...@pobox.com>...


>
>ScippyLisp wrote:
>
>> I so much enjoyed the other thread that it got me thinking. What rare
jewels do
>> you have that you know would cause many to drool because they don't have
it?
>

>I expect a fair number of folks here have one, but I've only run into
>one other person who has a copy of Dashiell Hedayat's <Obsolete> on LP.
>Have no idea how much of a jewel this may be.
>
>--
>
>Best,
>
> -- Jon
>
> jonathan roberts \ the region of where
> guitar:synth:notes \ mailto:nart...@pobox.com

Johan Lif

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Prog Czar <cz...@telerama.com> wrote:

> AKSAK MABOUL "Onze Danses Pour Combattre le Migraine" BELG Crammed

I have this one. Didn't know it was rare. I see people recommending this
band a lot, but I though Onze Danses... sounded rather feeble, if
enjoyably quirky in parts. Is Pour L'ame des Bandits any different or
better?


Johan

A Cimino

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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quoth joha...@swipnet.se (Johan Lif) :

>> AKSAK MABOUL "Onze Danses Pour Combattre le Migraine" BELG Crammed
>
>I have this one. Didn't know it was rare. I see people recommending this
>band a lot, but I though Onze Danses... sounded rather feeble, if
>enjoyably quirky in parts. Is Pour L'ame des Bandits any different or
>better?

I think so...it's a bit more dark and aggressive - with some nice
guesting by Fred Frith and Chris Cutler. The more RIO-like of the two
- reminds of Western Culture-era Henry Cow or Univers Zero in places.

Mark Jung

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In article <37a1d92a...@news.javanet.com>, va...@tiac.net (A Cimino)
wrote:

also find the little bits of Aksak on the Crammed sampler (is it made to
measure #1? i can't recall) - they haven't been released anywhere else.
the tunes primarily constructed out of recorded sounds (one sounds like
windshield wipers, another a jingly snow song...), and are very much worth
looking for.
anyone heard the "lost" aksak disk, "music for runways"?

mark

--
replace "spam" with arts when replying

Dgasque

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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In article <rq0bvu$0$37nspbj$n...@corp.supernews.com>, "Prog Czar"
<cz...@telerama.com> writes:

>Hi,
>this seems to be an old thread, and I don't check rmp often at all.
>

(list snipped)

Nice list of obscurities there, Czar. A majority of them have been reissued on
CD, so you'll find that many here have heard them. Also nice to see another
listener of the off-kilter side of prog here.

=dg=

Dgasque

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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In article <37a0b349...@news.javanet.com>, va...@tiac.net (A Cimino)
writes:

>Do you have anything by either Art Fleury or Alesia Cosmos? Two
>proggish bands with an experimental flair that I've got a couple of
>records by each. - only came across one guy who'd heard of the former
>(are you there, dgasque?), and nobody for the latter.
>

Yeah, present and accounted for. I tried for years to obtain Art Fleury LPs,
without luck at all. And I have a feeling that Dr. Moroni probably has
absolutely no interest in re-issuing these at all...:-( Couldn't blame him-
they might sell a couple hundred at the most.

NP: The Jaki Byard Experience- s/t

=dg=

Prog Czar

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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A Cimino wrote in message <37a0b349...@news.javanet.com>...
>quoth "Prog Czar" <cz...@telerama.com> :


Yeah, the AK(Q)SAK's are pretty incredible outings!!
If you really like the 1st(I LOVE both), you should check out COS "Viva
Boma" --this was when Marc Hollander replaced Charles Loos(whom I liked VERY
much) and it is definately a jumping off point/inspiration for Maboul.
specially the 1st track called 'Perhaps Next Record' which sounds waay too
much like 'Mercedi Matin' off of the "Onze Danses.." album. It's nice to
see someone out there with similar tastes as me! I'm not much for Neo-prog
at all and can't dig the so-called "greats" = Genesis, Yes, Crimson(except
for "Lizards" --because of the Tippett horn section!!), VDGG, Jethro Tull,
ELP is okay, but not all that stunning either. I DO like the 'classic GG
sound,' though! I am vEry big on albums as entire structures, and fairly
finicky about english voxes[[the Andersons and Gabriel/Collins voices make
my mouth dry(figuratively)]] . The Italians are sweeping me away for now...

>Do you have anything by either Art Fleury or Alesia Cosmos? Two
>proggish bands with an experimental flair that I've got a couple of
>records by each. - only came across one guy who'd heard of the former
>(are you there, dgasque?), and nobody for the latter.

Nope, never herd of them. You have peaked my interest though!

Feel free to respond to me directly(or the newsgroup is fine, I guess) so
that we can concur upon/discuss more of the quirkier (and earlier) realms of
prog.

cha-cha for now,
~Czar

Currie Christopher J

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Prog Czar <cz...@telerama.com> wrote:

> ARK 2 "Flaming Youth" HOL Fontana -w/ Phil Collins(1968)-


This should be the other way around (ie. the group was Flaming Youth, the
album was _Ark 2_).


The Christopher Currie
(now experiencing nightmarish flashbacks of "The Planets")

Loznik

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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Now I have "The Bridge", by Gary Lloyd and Iain Banks. Top that :-)


Loznik {:-)>

"All the lies, all the truth,
All the things that I offer you."

Dgasque

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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In article <37a36cb8...@alpha.news.global.net.uk>,
loz...@garbage.bigfoot.com (Loznik) writes:

>Now I have "The Bridge", by Gary Lloyd and Iain Banks. Top that :-)

Okay- I have _The Bridge_ by Thomas Leer and Robert Rental_ .

=dg=

Loznik

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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On 01 Aug 1999 09:33:12 GMT, dga...@aol.com (Dgasque) suggested:

Touché ;-)


Loznik {:-)>

"A man would simply have to be as mad as a hatter
To try to change the world with a plastic platter"

Dgasque

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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In article <37a4a433...@alpha.news.global.net.uk>,
loz...@garbage.bigfoot.com (Loznik) writes:

>On 01 Aug 1999 09:33:12 GMT, dga...@aol.com (Dgasque) suggested:
>
>>In article <37a36cb8...@alpha.news.global.net.uk>,
>>loz...@garbage.bigfoot.com (Loznik) writes:
>>
>>>Now I have "The Bridge", by Gary Lloyd and Iain Banks. Top that :-)
>>
>>Okay- I have _The Bridge_ by Thomas Leer and Robert Rental_ .
>>
>>=dg=
>
>Touché ;-)

I've never heard the one by Lloyd and Banks, to be honest. It very well may
dust the grooves off the other AFAIK. ;-)

spinning: OST: Stalker- A. Artemyev (this film is back in print again-
domestically (Fox Films), so i've heard. Anybody here seen it? The plot
spounds fascinating...)

=dg=

Prog Czar

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>> AKSAK MABOUL "Onze Danses Pour Combattre le Migraine" BELG Crammed
>I have this one. Didn't know it was rare.
On VINYL it is scarce..

>I see people recommending this band a lot, but I though Onze Danses...
sounded >rather feeble, if enjoyably quirky in parts.

If that's not your bag, I can see that. Personally I have things r.m.p.ers
like and I avoid!!

> Is Pour L'ame des Bandits any different or better?

Ohhh, maybe 33 1/3 times better if you thought the first was too soft.
Those bandits include FRED FRITH & CHRIS CUTLER, hence it is HEAVIER by far
and simply an all-out space masterpiece, really, no joke!! Get it, no
chance of disappointment if you like heavy prog that delves into the RIO
territory in a hardcore way! Jamming. ..and did I say heavy yet? It also
has an incredible time-lapsing flow.
Now you made me want to listen to it again...`

>
>
>Johan

Johan Lif

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Prog Czar <cz...@telerama.com> wrote:

> >> AKSAK MABOUL "Onze Danses Pour Combattre le Migraine" BELG Crammed
> >I have this one. Didn't know it was rare.
> On VINYL it is scarce..

Lucky me then. I have it on vinyl.

> > Is Pour L'ame des Bandits any different or better?
> Ohhh, maybe 33 1/3 times better if you thought the first was too soft.

Thanks for the recommendation; I'll try to get hold of it!


Johan

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