Scientology, Chick Corea, and the other RTF members
Christopher J. Currie
*
I've noticed that quite a few archived usenet posts identify the
entire Return To Forever lineup (a jazz-fusion band from the 1970s,
for newcomers) as having been involved with Scientology. Some people,
moreover, continue to identify Stanley Clarke, Al DiMeola and Lenny
White as members of this organization.
Not so, according to some interviews that I've discovered.
Chick Corea, of course, continues to be a leading public face for
Scientology.
I don't know if the late-night infomercials which feature him are
still running or not (it's possible that the group isn't quite the
financial behemoth that it was a few years ago, in which case the ads
may have been pulled.) Regardless, Corea is so thoroughly associated
with the movement that it's difficult to imagine him ever shifting his
theological beliefs elsewhere.
I've now found these quotes from Al DiMeola and Lenny White, from the
time of RTF's fragmentation:
DiMeola: "It's a sore point with Chick and myself because he really
wanted me to become a Scientologist. I told him the time wasn't right
for me to do that because I could be spending my time with what I love
best, which is music, not
Scientology. When I was with the group for two years I saw Chick
spending the majority - like 90% - of his time off the road with
Scientology. It's very time consuming."
White: "Chick *told* me what to say to the press, [...] and I was so
flabbergasted by the fact that Chick actually sat down and told me
what I was supposed to say to the press. He told me to say that it's
not a breakup due to
Scientology and that I was happy going out to do my own thing and the
band (RTF) needed a girl singer. This is what he felt as though I
should say to the press. I even went along with that but what
transpired between that date and now was the ugliest part of the whole
deal. I mean, Chick says that people judge success by money. But it
came down to *money* in this band. He did not want to give Al and me
what we felt we deserved. There was money involved in the Columbia
contract that Chick did not want to give up and we had to go through a
whole legal thingto get that money. There were some unbelievable
things done to me and I trusted the cat. I mean, I love Chick's music
man. I
dig him. There were just some things that happened that were really
funky that I am not going to forget. Ever."
Read the complete article at
http://www.geocities.com/guitalife/jrgig1977.html
At the time of that article, Stanley Clarke was still with Corea in
Scientology. That this is no longer the case was confirmed by DiMeola
in a 1990 interview.
*
Los Angeles Times
Thursday, August 16, 1990
Guitarist Al DiMeola Longs for Return to Forever Days
By: DIRK SUTRO
Fourteen years after the breakup of Return to Forever, guitarist Al
DiMeola still misses being a member of the seminal electric jazz band
led
by Chick Corea. DiMeola, in fact, still harbors hopes of a reunion
with
former band mates Corea, the piano and keyboard player, drummer Lenny
White and bassist Stanley Clarke.
"It was the most ridiculous thing for Chick to ever break up the
group," said DiMeola, who plays the Bacchanal at 8:30 Monday. "I have
expressed this to Chick, and I know Stanley and Lenny feel strongly,
too.
I've met with Chick, and Stanley's met with him. We've tried to talk
sense into him, but I think we have a Scientology problem to deal
with,
possibly due to Stanley leaving Scientology. That doesn't sit very
well
with Chick."
Corea is an acknowledged devotee of the self-improvement movement
founded by the late L. Ron Hubbard. When Clarke gave up Scientology,
Corea broke up the group after the "Romantic Warrior" album.
"We had signed a multimillion-dollar deal with CBS, but Chick decided
to go in a different direction," DiMeola said.
*
[to read the complete article, do a Google Search for "Al DiMeola" and
"Scientology" -- it was posted to the alt.religion.scientology group
in 1996.]
*
So ... it would seem that some jazz-fusion musicians were able to get
away, even post-1976.
Christopher
Guy Berger
> So ... it would seem that some jazz-fusion musicians were able to get
> away, even post-1976.
So Clarke, White, and DiMeola were able to escape from scientology...
but not from making bad music. ;)
Guy
Steven Sullivan
> Corea is an acknowledged devotee of the self-improvement movement
> founded by the late L. Ron Hubbard. When Clarke gave up Scientology,
> Corea broke up the group after the "Romantic Warrior" album.
But they did reform for a tour; I know because I saw a show from
that tour.
> So ... it would seem that some jazz-fusion musicians were able to get
> away, even post-1976.
Jeff Berlin complained circa 1979 that in the mid-70's he
wasn't getting some fusion gigs because he wasn't a
Scientologist. -- -S.
Mivarsh Faz
:I've noticed that quite a few archived usenet posts identify the
:entire Return To Forever lineup (a jazz-fusion band from the 1970s,
:for newcomers) as having been involved with Scientology. Some people,
:moreover, continue to identify Stanley Clarke, Al DiMeola and Lenny
:White as members of this organization.
:
:Not so, according to some interviews that I've discovered.
[snip!]
Yeah, I read part of an interview with Bill Connors that explains
this as a big part of the reason he left the band so early. Apparently
Corea made him fill out a bunch of forms every night and such until he
just decided not to put up with it anymore and quit.
I take it Corea has mellowed about it since then. This definitely
explains why he was reduced to playing with his wife, Stanley Clarke
and any jazz musicians he could find that he had not yet alienated by
the end of the 70's.
Oh, and I finally heard Gayle Moran's solo album. Yikes! It
contains a song dedicated to L. Ron Hubbard and another co-written
(and featuring the piano playing) by his daughter Diana. That's all
you really need to know about it.
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> Christopher J. Currie <8c...@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote:
>
> > Corea is an acknowledged devotee of the self-improvement movement
> > founded by the late L. Ron Hubbard. When Clarke gave up Scientology,
> > Corea broke up the group after the "Romantic Warrior" album.
>
>
> But they did reform for a tour; I know because I saw a show from
> that tour.
>
comes to mind.)
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reforming RTF, but Chick Corea is not interested. Is that right? Any
scientological reasons?
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>Scientology.
>I don't know if the late-night infomercials which feature him are
>still running or not (it's possible that the group isn't quite the
>financial behemoth that it was a few years ago, in which case the ads
>may have been pulled.)
I didn't Chick had done any infomercials for anyone (I've seen Herbie Hancock's
adverts for the Bose stereo system). I imagine they were the ones who were
pumping much of the money into Battlefield Earth, Travolta's turkey of an
attempt at adapting Herr Hubbard's science fiction doggeral to the big screen.
>We've tried to talk
>sense into him, but I think we have a Scientology problem to deal
>with,
>possibly due to Stanley leaving Scientology
I had the understanding that Scientology was kinda like the Mafia. You don't
just leave. I've heard some strange stories about those people, let me put it
that way.
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>> away, even post-1976.
>
> So Clarke, White, and DiMeola were able to escape from scientology...
>but not from making bad music. ;)
Ya know, I've always blamed Scientology for Chick's downward slide during the
80's, with The Electrik Band, etc, but that doesn't take into account the
frequently lousy solo records that Stanley Clarke has recorded (I actually
rather like DiMeola's solo stuff that I've heard, and am not at all familiar
with White's solo records).
Jan Kalin
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> Oh, and I finally heard Gayle Moran's solo album. Yikes! It
>contains a song dedicated to L. Ron Hubbard
Better or worse than the L. Ron Hubbard song by Pierre Moerlen's Gong?
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RTF was a classic case of the sum being much stronger than its parts. I'd
love to see Corea reunite with Di Miola, White & Clarke for an album and
tour. Egos and "who's the boss?" aside, I bet they'd make some fine
music, and shift a bunch of product.
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Which one was that, Henry? I only dad a couple of albums by PM's Gong so
I might have missed it.
Tony Elka
Subramanian <subram...@er6s1.eng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> I was also reading that Al Di Meola, Clarke and White have intentions of
> reforming RTF, but Chick Corea is not interested. Is that right? Any
> scientological reasons?
Maybe Chick is just pussy-whipped?
Tony
Buster Mudd
>
> Corea is an acknowledged devotee of the self-improvement movement
> founded by the late L. Ron Hubbard. When Clarke gave up Scientology,
> Corea broke up the group after the "Romantic Warrior" album.
>
This incorrect chronology conveniently ignores the fact that A)
Stanley Clarke appeared on 2 more RTF albums recorded after the
release of Romantic Warrior; and B) RTF continued to tour (with Rick
Laird on bass) after Clarke left the band.
Christopher J Currie
> Yeah, I read part of an interview with Bill Connors that explains
> this as a big part of the reason he left the band so early. Apparently
> Corea made him fill out a bunch of forms every night and such until he
> just decided not to put up with it anymore and quit.
> I take it Corea has mellowed about it since then. This definitely
> explains why he was reduced to playing with his wife, Stanley Clarke
> and any jazz musicians he could find that he had not yet alienated by
> the end of the 70's.
Who would have been Joe Farrell and, ... and, ... um ...
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
>>Chick Corea, of course, continues to be a leading public face for
>>Scientology.
>>I don't know if the late-night infomercials which feature him are
>>still running or not (it's possible that the group isn't quite the
>>financial behemoth that it was a few years ago, in which case the ads
>>may have been pulled.)
> I didn't Chick had done any infomercials for anyone (I've seen Herbie Hancock's
> adverts for the Bose stereo system).
Scientology used to run a late-night informercial about Dianetics in the
mid-1990s. I've seen it. Corea was definitely featured.
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
>> Corea is an acknowledged devotee of the self-improvement movement
>> founded by the late L. Ron Hubbard. When Clarke gave up Scientology,
>> Corea broke up the group after the "Romantic Warrior" album.
> But they did reform for a tour; I know because I saw a show from
> that tour.
They also reunited for one track on a 1982 Corea solo album (I don't
remember which one).
I guess that Chick isn't completely unreasonable about these matters ...
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
Hey, nobody's perfect.
Christopher
(and some of DiMeola's recent albums have actually been pretty good, I'd
say)
Christopher J Currie
I was a bit suspicious about timeline as such. (Bear in mind that I was
just quoting from an LA times article).
Christopher
TheKobaian
>Better or worse than the L. Ron Hubbard song by Pierre Moerlen's Gong?
The WHAT?!
Moerlen is/was a Hubbardite, as well?
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> They also reunited for one track on a 1982 Corea solo album (I don't
> remember which one).
>
> I guess that Chick isn't completely unreasonable about these matters ...
I assume that most of the other musicians he has played with since then
are not scientologists either.
Guy
Pat Buzby
> I've noticed that quite a few archived usenet posts identify the
> entire Return To Forever lineup (a jazz-fusion band from the 1970s,
> for newcomers) as having been involved with Scientology. Some people,
> moreover, continue to identify Stanley Clarke, Al DiMeola and Lenny
> White as members of this organization.
In the Anthony Braxton bio Forces In Motion, Braxton mentions
that Corea got involved with Scientology while the two of them were
working together in the band Circle (along with Dave Holland and Barry
Altschul), and that all four members checked into it. However, the
others decided not to continue with Scientology, and apparently were
low-profile enough to get away from it without a problem. Braxton
also mentions a correlation between Corea's embrace of Scientology and
his turn towards more commercial music.
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
Pat Buzby
The four of them did a track on Chick's album Touchstone, circa
1983 (the same time as the tour).
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
Guy Berger
>> I take it Corea has mellowed about it since then. This definitely
>>explains why he was reduced to playing with his wife, Stanley Clarke
>>and any jazz musicians he could find that he had not yet alienated by
>>the end of the 70's.
>
> Who would have been Joe Farrell and, ... and, ... um ...
This is a bunch of nonsense. Between 1977 and 1980 Chick appeared on
record with Lionel Hampton, Herbie Hancock, Joe Henderson, Gary Burton,
Dave Holland, Ron Carter, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Higgins and Tony
Williams -- all of which were bigger heavyweights than any member of RtF.
Guy
Christopher J Currie
Well ... many of his younger colleagues weren't scientologists *when they
met him*, is my understanding. There are reports that the organization
looks to him to bring in new recruits from the fusion field.
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
> Christopher J Currie wrote:
>>> I take it Corea has mellowed about it since then. This definitely
>>>explains why he was reduced to playing with his wife, Stanley Clarke
>>>and any jazz musicians he could find that he had not yet alienated by
>>>the end of the 70's.
>>
>> Who would have been Joe Farrell and, ... and, ... um ...
> This is a bunch of nonsense.
It was more of a joke, actually. (Farrell was just about the only other
*recognizable* scientologist in Corea's circle from that period that I
could think of.)
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
... and, if I'm not mistaken, Braxton claims that his *rejection* of
Scientology helped him to pursue more avant-garde fields.
Christopher
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> In the Anthony Braxton bio Forces In Motion, Braxton mentions
> that Corea got involved with Scientology while the two of them were
> working together in the band Circle (along with Dave Holland and Barry
> Altschul), and that all four members checked into it. However, the
> others decided not to continue with Scientology, and apparently were
> low-profile enough to get away from it without a problem.
I doubt the Scientologists would have wanted Braxton. A man with a brain as
complex as his seems to be wouldn't be easily moulded.
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Mivarsh Faz
:> Oh, and I finally heard Gayle Moran's solo album. Yikes! It
:>contains a song dedicated to L. Ron Hubbard
:
:Better or worse than the L. Ron Hubbard song by Pierre Moerlen's Gong?
Hmmm...looks like I haven't missed much by steering clear of the
post-_Shamal_ band.
Anyway, it's kind of an odd album in that it can't decide whether
or not to be a flowery jazz-pop MOR album or a light symphonic prog
album, so it tries to be both at once. I dunno, maybe Renaissance fans
would dig it. It can't be any worse than Diana Hubbard's album.
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TheKobaian
>mid-1990s. I've seen it. Corea was definitely featured.
OK, well, I missed it somehow, but then, I don't watch infomercials. I consider
them to be a plague that's ruined late night television. Remember the good old
days when you could rely on Night Flight, lots of old reruns (CHiPs anyone?)
and plenty of B-movies to keep the insomniacs amongst entertained well into the
twilight of early morning.
TheKobaian
>complex as his seems to be wouldn't be easily moulded.
Yeah, eccentrics and Neil Peart wannabes need not apply! :-)
Tony Elka
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> OK, well, I missed it somehow, but then, I don't watch infomercials. I
> consider
> them to be a plague that's ruined late night television. Remember the good old
> days when you could rely on Night Flight, lots of old reruns (CHiPs anyone?)
> and plenty of B-movies to keep the insomniacs amongst entertained well into
> the
> twilight of early morning.
Time to shell out for cable.
Tony
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>Henry Potts <he...@REMOVETOEMAILbondegezou.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>:> Oh, and I finally heard Gayle Moran's solo album. Yikes! It
>:>contains a song dedicated to L. Ron Hubbard
>:
>:Better or worse than the L. Ron Hubbard song by Pierre Moerlen's Gong?
>
> Hmmm...looks like I haven't missed much by steering clear of the
>post-_Shamal_ band.
It's one of those cases where a band's style changes so utterly that
they really ought to change their name: whilst it's possible to like
both styles, liking one doesn't necessarily mean you'll like the
other.
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TheKobaian
>> OK, well, I missed it somehow, but then, I don't watch infomercials. I
>> consider
>> them to be a plague that's ruined late night television. Remember the good
>old
>> days when you could rely on Night Flight, lots of old reruns (CHiPs
>anyone?)
>> and plenty of B-movies to keep the insomniacs amongst entertained well into
>> the
>> twilight of early morning.
>
>
>
>Time to shell out for cable.
I DO have cable! In case you never noticed, they have infomercials on cable to,
ya know.
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>the bill for wee-hours fodder, though they don't show enough "B" movie
>schlock IMO.
Yeah, that's true. There's lots of good stuff on IFC and the Sundance Channel,
as well. And I frequently catch some good stuff on the Showtime/TMC affilliated
channels that we get.
But I miss the days when almost any given there was at least one Roger Corman
movie on at like 3:00 am or whatever. I also miss when they used to re-air all
those crummy made for TV movies from the 60's and 70's.
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>> Better or worse than the L. Ron Hubbard song by Pierre Moerlen's Gong?
>
>I might have missed it.
"The Road Out" on Pierre Moerlen's Gong's _Breakthrough_ has words from
the poem of the same name by L Ron Hubbard. It's the worst track on a
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Christopher J Currie
>>Scientology used to run a late-night informercial about Dianetics in the
>>mid-1990s. I've seen it. Corea was definitely featured.
> OK, well, I missed it somehow, but then, I don't watch infomercials.
There was a certain "morbid curiosity" value to this particular broadcast.
Christopher
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Tony Elka
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> But I miss the days when almost any given there was at least one Roger Corman
> movie on at like 3:00 am or whatever. I also miss when they used to re-air all
> those crummy made for TV movies from the 60's and 70's.
When I was but a lad, we had something on a local Los Angeles TV
station called The Million Dollar Movie. They showed the same movie,
twice a day, once in the morning, once in the evening, for an entire
seven days.
The Blob, The Spirit of St. Louis, you name it. Wonderful for a
childlike mind that craves repetition.
Tony
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Corman movie on at like 3:00 am or whatever. I also miss when they used to
re-air all those crummy made for TV movies from the 60's and 70's.
<sigh>
sometimes i wonder if i'll ever see The Beast with a Million Eyes, Death Ship,
or Attack of the Mushroom People again :(
i also miss dearly those funky soundtracks of the old '70's shows.
>When I was but a lad, we had something on a local Los Angeles TV
station called The Million Dollar Movie. They showed the same movie,
twice a day, once in the morning, once in the evening, for an entire
seven days.
you'd think a million dollars, back then, would be good for a little more
variety!
sdavmor
Thanks. That's one album I missed...and won't go out of my way to find.
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> RTF was a classic case of the sum being much stronger than its parts. I'd
> love to see Corea reunite with Di Miola, White & Clarke for an album and
> tour. Egos and "who's the boss?" aside, I bet they'd make some fine
> music, and shift a bunch of product.
And we all know it's about shifting as much product as possible.
sdavmor
Indeed it is. Unless one is dead set on having a "day job".
Pat Buzby
> ... and, if I'm not mistaken, Braxton claims that his *rejection* of
> Scientology helped him to pursue more avant-garde fields.
That's stretching a bit - Braxton did say that there was a
connection between Corea's embrace of Scientology and his turn towards
more commercial, "communicative" music, whereas Braxton was not
interested in changing his music in order to "communicate."
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
TheKobaian
>Ship,
>or Attack of the Mushroom People again :(
Well, at least The Movie Channel has been showing the two early 70's two headed
transplant movies, one where Ray Milland plays a rich bigot whose head is
attached to Rosie Grier's body (the scene where he first wakes up after the
transplant is hilarious) and the other I think it's Bruce Dern who attachs the
head of psychopathic killer to the body of simpleton. The latter also boasts
none other than Casey "The Letter U and the numeral 2" Kasem in the cast.
>i also miss dearly those funky soundtracks of the old '70's shows.
Yeah, heavy on wah wah guitar and vibraslap.
I always dug the electronic music scores you heard in some of the B-movies.
You'd hear a lot of stuff that sounded like someone just finding out about
synthesizers (especially modular synths, "hey what's this sequencer thing
do?"). One that comes to mind is a rather dull movie called Shark's Treasure,
which has a couple diving scenes with good electronic music.
And I think it was that one Bradford Dillman flick, where these mutant
cockroaches that start fires are released by an earthquake. Strange flick where
these cockroaches are starting fires all over town. Then Dillman crossbreeds
them with other insects, and creates these super intelligent, flying fire
starting cockroaches. Anyway, i seem to recall that one had some electronic
moments.
Or am I thinking of the one where the guy got turned in a snake by the mad
scientist?
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scientist?
Ssssss.(i think i got the ssspelling right?)
i don't recall the soundtrack but a good flick, yeah.
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> And I think it was that one Bradford Dillman flick, where these mutant
> cockroaches that start fires are released by an earthquake. Strange flick
where
> these cockroaches are starting fires all over town. Then Dillman
crossbreeds
> them with other insects, and creates these super intelligent, flying fire
> starting cockroaches. Anyway, i seem to recall that one had some
electronic
> moments.
>
it a few times. The music was by some guy named Charles Fox, who has a
pretty large list of credits to his name.
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> I always dug the electronic music scores you heard in some of the B-movies.
> You'd hear a lot of stuff that sounded like someone just finding out about
> synthesizers (especially modular synths, "hey what's this sequencer thing
> do?"). One that comes to mind is a rather dull movie called Shark's Treasure,
> which has a couple diving scenes with good electronic music.
One series that made mesmerizing juxtapositions of electronic sound
with image was _In Search Of_, hosted by Leonard Nimoy. Every episode
(all from around 1976, I would guess) would set _Rubycon_ style sounds
against grainy video images of space, radiographs, close-ups of the
sun, fields at twilight, etc. I would love to get all those good parts
from the show onto VCD, but haven't yet managed to have cable during
that time of the year when the History Channel re-airs them, nor do I
know whether they plan to again.
TS
TheKobaian
>scientist?
>
>Ssssss.(i think i got the ssspelling right?)
Yeah, I thought of the title like a microsecond after hitting the send button.
Doesn't the guy get turned into a snake, and then it gets attacked by some
other animal in the lab at the end?
Box0
>>>Or am I thinking of the one where the guy got turned in a snake by the mad
scientist?
>>Ssssss.(i think i got the ssspelling right?)
>Yeah, I thought of the title like a microsecond after hitting the send button.
>Doesn't the guy get turned into a snake, and then it gets attacked by some
other animal in the lab at the end?
hey, far be it from me to want to, uh, spoil the ending... but i'd gander to
say they could have doubled the thrills... & chills had they'd made it a
*man-goose* instead. honk honk
(what's that hisssssing from the balcony???)
TheKobaian
>hey, far be it from me to want to, uh, spoil the ending... but i'd gander to
>say they could have doubled the thrills... & chills had they'd made it a
>*man-goose* instead. honk honk
Once again, about a microsecond after hitting the send button, I realized I
should have included a spoiler warning. Oh well, it's still a very strange and
interesting movie.
Alex Van Starrex
Don't know if I can say much - here's a grab-bag of ideas:
- Chick's still a great musscn, despite his leanings (anyone mention Jimmy
Page's leanings?).
- I had front-row seats to see him in 1983/4, but that's quite another
story.
- I toyed with Scientology for about a half-hour (got as far as the "Free
Personality Test") on the strength of the RTF thing, but heard enough horror
stories about it later to put me off for good.
- I'll also never forget an interview with LRH Jnr in Penthouse magazine
(where he describes himself as a failed abortion, courtesy of Dad's
coathanger).
- I've got some live RTF from 75 (1/2 an LP) and 83 (a CD), and remember
seeing them on "In Concert" - aside from having the usual RTF albums.
- The Elektric Band's output was curiously variable from album to album - a
"best of" would be impossible to compile.
- I've also got the "Inside Out" video - ever see a fusion band mime to
almost a complete album?
- Al DiMeola's first 3 solo albums were great - after which ...massive
downhill slide. Saw him with McLaughlin and DeLucia (and Steve Morse) in
1983.
- Lenny's "Venusian Summer" LP was almost great.
- Clarke's solo work started off well, but turned ridiculously commercial
(though i presume he made a mint from it). I currently think the live
'76-'77 CD is his best solo thing. I also saw him play with Larry Coryell
and Miroslav Vitous in 1984.
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