CDNow Wish List sale
laura in space
April 17 is on sale ($2 off) until May 1.
luckily (??) I have a huge wish list. ;-)
rather odd selection - most of the stuff I *really wanted right now* I just
went ahead and bought.
perhaps I could use some assistance from my trusted friends here (and who
might *that* be?) on which items I *really need*. fair amount o jazz; not
really knowing which ones to choose. a few gems in here. and others I
don't remember how they got here.
help me spend more money!! *somewhat* wisely ;-)
laura
Comments Laura's Wish List
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here only because I gave Eve Cassidy Eva By Heart
mine away - NEED these: Eva Cassidy Songbird
bout time: John Coltrane Love Supreme
?? Ry Cooder Jazz
not prog but hey: Cowboy Junkies Miles From Our Home
Cowboy Junkies Trinity Session
any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
new age/world: Deep Forest Boheme
?? Al Dimeola / De Lucia,Paco / Mcloughlin,John
Passion Grace & Fire
a no brainer: Dixie Dregs Freefall
whatever: Doors Strange Days
precursor to Thurs Aft: Brian Eno Ambient 1-Music For Airports
*which* Bela? or ALL?? Bela Fleck Tales From The Acoustic Planet
have Cosmic Hippo Bela Fleck & The Flecktones Left Of Cool
Bela Fleck & The Flecktones Live Art
Bela Fleck & The Flecktones Ufo Tofu
for old times' sake: Fleetwood Mac Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac Then Play On
???? Robert Fripp Exposure
only "need" CC99: Genesis Turn It On Again-Hits
better get this: Kevin Gilbert Thud
more old times sake: Grateful Dead Aoxomoxoa
Grateful Dead Built To Last
what is this?? Joe Henderson Ballads & Blues
is this *really* the best? John Lee Hooker Very Best Of John Lee Hooker
get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
want this: Koyaanisqatsi (Soundtrack) Soundtrack
*blush* Madonna Erotica
gotta have it: Bob Marley & Wailers Live
don't I have this already? Joni Mitchell Clouds
*need* Ltd Ed? why?? Joni Mitchell Both Sides Now (Ltd Ed)
CD Add to Cart $44.99
right Monk to get? Thelonious Monk Vol. 1-Genius Of Modern Music
Thelonious Monk Vol. 2-Genius Of Modern Music
hmmm: Neal Morse Neal Morse
*different* old times: Graham Parker Squeezing Out Sparks/Live Spar
ditto: Police Synchronicity
I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
why?: R.E.M. Green
hmm - maybe: Bonnie Raitt Fundamental
not on a Stones kick these Rolling Stones Beggar's Banquet
days ... Rolling Stones Big Hits (High Tide & Green Gr
Rolling Stones Let It Bleed
Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
*love* his first 2: Seal Human Being
think I need this: Simon & Garfunkel Concert In Central Park
is this where to start? Sun Ra & His Arkestra Space Is The Place
don't know these; heard Talking Heads Remain In Light
great things about em - ? Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues
guess I better get this: Transatlantic Smpte
wtf was I thinking? VA-Dub Gone Crazy Dub Gone Crazy
no idea: VA-Honor Honor-A Benefit For The Honor
(oh; Native American thing)
For the Love of God: Steve Vai Passion & Warfare
AHA!!! at long last! ;-) Van Der Graaf Generator H To He Who Am The
right, steven? Only One
Van Der Graaf Generator Least We Can Do Is
Wave To Eac
who?? Andrew Vasquez Wind River
(oh - more Native Am)
right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body Electric
--
And will I wait forever beside the silent mirror ... ?
Dgasque
writes:
>Comments Laura's Wish List
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>bout time: John Coltrane Love Supreme
it's, uh- supreme. Definite must-buy.
>
>any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
>wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
>
all of these Miles titles are great hard bop albums. Buy!
>?? Al Dimeola / De Lucia,Paco / Mcloughlin,John
> Passion Grace & Fire
>
These trio albums struck me as "beat this lick" albums. Big on fret runs,
short on substance.
>a no brainer: Dixie Dregs Freefall
>
yep.
>precursor to Thurs Aft: Brian Eno Ambient 1-Music For Airports
>
one of his best ambient albums, IMO.
>*which* Bela? or ALL?? Bela Fleck Tales From The Acoustic Planet
>have Cosmic Hippo Bela Fleck & The Flecktones Left Of Cool
> Bela Fleck & The Flecktones Live Art
> Bela Fleck & The Flecktones Ufo Tofu
>
I have the first and last of the above. I prefer his bluegrass stuff more.
>for old times' sake: Fleetwood Mac Mystery To Me
> Fleetwood Mac Then Play On
>
Ah well, to each their own.
>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
>
haven't heard in a while. why not?
>only "need" CC99: Genesis Turn It On Again-Hits
>
again, to each their own.
>better get this: Kevin Gilbert Thud
>
I need a KG CD too. Is this representative of his solo stuff?
>more old times sake: Grateful Dead Aoxomoxoa
> Grateful Dead Built To Last
>
_Aoxomoxoa_ is pretty good psych-edged stuff. Haven't heard the other.
> King Crimson Red
>
Get 2 copies.
>want this: Koyaanisqatsi (Soundtrack) Soundtrack
>
Not much of a Phillip Glass fan myself. A bit minimal for my tastes.
>*blush* Madonna Erotica
>
If you've got to buy one of hers, this is probably the one to get. William
Orbit's production makes this album light years better than anything she's ever
done.
>gotta have it: Bob Marley & Wailers Live
>
Agreed.
>don't I have this already? Joni Mitchell Clouds
>
>*need* Ltd Ed? why?? Joni Mitchell Both Sides Now (Ltd Ed)
> CD Add to Cart $44.99
>
Good stuff, but $44.99?...not for me.
>right Monk to get? Thelonious Monk Vol. 1-Genius Of Modern Music
> Thelonious Monk Vol. 2-Genius Of Modern Music
>
Best of stuff. I'm not so hot about other people picking their "best of's".
Go for the real albums- _Monk's Music_, _Brilliant Corners_, etc.
>ditto: Police Synchronicity
>
I'm more into their first 2...
>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
>
Supurb jazz/rock fusion.
>why?: R.E.M. Green
>
Good question.
>not on a Stones kick these Rolling Stones Beggar's Banquet
>days ... Rolling Stones Big Hits (High Tide & Green Gr
> Rolling Stones Let It Bleed
> Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
>
Any early Stones is worth the money.
>think I need this: Simon & Garfunkel Concert In Central Park
>
not bad.
>is this where to start? Sun Ra & His Arkestra Space Is The Place
>
The soundtrack on Evidence or the one on Rounder (or is it Enja?)
>don't know these; heard Talking Heads Remain In Light
>great things about em - ? Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues
>
_Talking Heads 77_ is the one to get
>no idea: VA-Honor Honor-A Benefit For The Honor
>(oh; Native American thing)
>
uhhh...no comment. Sounds new-agey to me.
>right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body Electric
>
Got _Black Market_ yet?
--
np: Michael Ray and the Cosmic Krewe- Funk if I Know (ex-Arkestra trumpeter
does a Funkadelic/jazz fusion with very good results.)
=dg=
Guy Berger
> bout time: John Coltrane Love Supreme
A must-own.
> any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
> wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
These are all classics of 50s jazz. _Cookin'_ was released last year as a
20 bit remaster so be sure to pick up that version.
> get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
You might as well wait. It's a great album, but save yourself some money
and buy other stuff.
> want this: Koyaanisqatsi (Soundtrack) Soundtrack
Just got this. It's really cool.
> right Monk to get? Thelonious Monk Vol. 1-Genius Of Modern Music
> Thelonious Monk Vol. 2-Genius Of Modern Music
This is really good Monk, but I prefer his stuff on Prestige from the
mid-50s: _Brilliant Corners_, _Monk's Music_.
> is this where to start? Sun Ra & His Arkestra Space Is The Place
No. I'd pick up one of the late 50s reissues on Evidence; or if you're
feeling gutsy, the manic _Atlantis_.
> don't know these; heard Talking Heads Remain In Light
> great things about em - ? Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues
Get 'em.
> right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body Electric
IStBE is a great album but it sounds nothing like HW. If you don't like
dissonant, on-the-edge fusion then I'd get one of their other albums.
Guy
----
gbe...@ucsd.edu
"All your spirit rack abuses come to haunt you back by day
All your byzantine excuses, given time, give you away
Don't be surprised when daylight comes to find that memory prick your thumbs
You'll tell them where we run to hide, I'm already dead, matter of time..."
Noah Samuel Lesgold
> >better get this: Kevin Gilbert Thud
> >
> I need a KG CD too. Is this representative of his solo stuff?
Well, um, aside from _The Shaming of the True_, which is (again) not
available right now, it _is_ his solo stuff. Or, at least, his
non-posthumous solo work. Excellent, intelligent pop, with a healthy
Led Zeppelin influence and hints of Genesis, Yes, and Elton John.
Heartfelt lyrics and powerful writing. Ideally try to get a copy with
the "Kashmir" EP attached, which should run the same amount to get but
was a limited edition (when I got mine from MassMusic it came with
it). If you like it, keep an eye out for the Toy Matinee album (OOP,
but shouldn't be too hard to find), and if you like _that_, pick up
the Giraffe compilation that his estate put out. I rather like the
_Live Thud_ release, but I wouldn't cite it as essential. When
_Shaming..._ is released in a non-limited form (should be within the
next couple months), I'd recommend it to anyone who enjoys his other
work.
Noah
--
Noah Lesgold http://www.cif.rochester.edu/~nlesgold
nles...@cif.rochester.edu | NDBC - Fear the power of the CBL!
"If a lighting person tells you that their lights can't, don't and won't
cause buzzes on amplifiers or the sound system, spit on one, or both, of
their feet and bite your thumb while shouting: "The fig of Spain!"."
-- Robert Fripp
Steven Sullivan
: CDNow has just informed me that everything I had saved to my wish list by
: laura
Get it.. I much prefer this one to the overrated chops-fest 'Friday
Night in San Francisco'
Btw, what is CDNow charging? I see this one for $9.99 in stores. I only
buy from CDnow when there are coupons available, and it looks liek they
are phasing those out.
: precursor to Thurs Aft: Brian Eno Ambient 1-Music For Airports
Get it.
: ???? Robert Fripp Exposure
Fripp remixed this one, I prefer the original LP mix. 'Breathless' is the
best KC tune not played by KC.
: get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
S&BB is better.
: not on a Stones kick these Rolling Stones Beggar's Banquet
: days ... Rolling Stones Big Hits (High Tide & Green Gr
: Rolling Stones Let It Bleed
: Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
Make sure Sticky Fingers is the remaster (by now, the remaster should be
the only one in stock, but you never know).
:
: AHA!!! at long last! ;-) Van Der Graaf Generator H To He Who Am The
: right, steven? Only One
way over the top, in typical VDG fashion. I can only take Hamill seriously
when he's singing other people's words (e.g. the Fripp album)
: right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body Electric
Not chronologically -- that would be 'Mr. Gone' which, as a keyboardist,
you should get anyway. It's mostly Zawinul's show
--
-S.
People say that conversation is a lost art: how often I have wished it
were! - Randall Jarrell, 'Pictures from an Institution'
sdavmor
news:B55M4.1414$D8.1...@grover.nit.gwu.edu...> : perhaps I could use some assistance from my trusted friends here
(and who
> : might *that* be?) on which items I *really need*. fair amount o
jazz; not
> : really knowing which ones to choose. a few gems in here. and
others I
> : don't remember how they got here.
> : help me spend more money!! *somewhat* wisely ;-)
> : laura
> : Comments Laura's Wish List
> : -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Get it.
Yes. If you want something ambient then go to the well-spring.
>
> : ???? Robert Fripp Exposure
>
> Fripp remixed this one, I prefer the original LP mix. 'Breathless' is
the
> best KC tune not played by KC.
Absolutely. It is a killer that screams *I am a Crimson tune*. The
album also has Hamill unleashed on "Disengage", IIRC.
>
> : get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
>
> S&BB is better.
Wait for the remasters. Coming soon.
> : AHA!!! at long last! ;-) Van Der Graaf Generator H To He Who Am
The
> : right, steven? Only One
>
> way over the top, in typical VDG fashion. I can only take Hamill
seriously
> when he's singing other people's words (e.g. the Fripp album)
Over the top! Go over the top, now, Laura!
>
> : right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body
Electric
>
> Not chronologically -- that would be 'Mr. Gone' which, as a
keyboardist,
> you should get anyway. It's mostly Zawinul's show
Keys dudes & dudettes really can't go wrong with WR. I still have all
my vinyls. Great albums that I revisit every year or so. The Zawinul
Project is pretty good too. They get that world-jazz vibe going.
Cheers,
--
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Brief Bio: http://www.jes.com/aboutus.html
Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274
Systems Theory: http://systemstheory.net/
NP: Herbie Hancock "Maiden Voyage" [get this gem too, if they've got it]
Stefan Dill
ld...@world.std.com (laura in space) wrote:
> CDNow has just informed me that everything I had saved to my wish
list by
> April 17 is on sale ($2 off) until May 1.
>
> luckily (??) I have a huge wish list. ;-)
>
> rather odd selection - most of the stuff I *really wanted right now*
I just
> went ahead and bought.
>
> perhaps I could use some assistance from my trusted friends here (and
who
> might *that* be?) on which items I *really need*. fair amount o
jazz; not
> really knowing which ones to choose. a few gems in here. and others
I
> don't remember how they got here.
>
> help me spend more money!! *somewhat* wisely ;-)
>
> laura
Hi Laura, i'd agree with Dgasque's very thorough observations, but ill
throw in a few of my own - nort knowing what you have or dont have
already makes it a bit difficult, but here's some other possibilities
nd random thoughts, in no particular order...
Coltrane, A Love Supreme, a MUST.if you're feeling more brave, add Om
or Ascenscion. the 4 CD set Live In Japan, also worthy.
Miles Davis you mentioned also good solid choices - the mid 60s group
is also worth checking out: ESP, Sorcerer, Plugged Nickel (incredible),
Heard Round The World....I assume you have the proto-fusion stuff
(Bitches Brew, In a Silent Way, Fillmore East, etc)? if not, all of
those are an important link in the chain...
While you're exploring this end of the spectrum, you may also enjoy
Pharoah Sanders' "Karma" (I challenge anyone to remain unhappy while
listening to this one....the ultimate moodlifter album, IMO)and Eric
Dolphy "Out To Lunch". I agree with Dgasque's choices re Monk, and Monk
you should have. while you're at it, consider Mingus: "Mingus Ah Um"
or " Mingus Mingus Mingus..." would be good classic starters.
Oh, another i consider essential: Albert Ayler, "Spiritual Unity".
Close up there with A Love Supreme in my book.
If you want to start looking at the avant side of things, start with
Cecil Taylor "Unit Structures" and then, if you want a bracing dose of
early proletariat acoustic punkjazz assault, try Peter
Broetzmann, "Machine Gun".
Hope this helps...let us know what you get, and what you like....(BTW,
chat room was fun! a great firstever chat room experience for me...)
best,
Stefan
--
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Before you buy.
laura in space
: >Comments Laura's Wish List
: >-------------------------------------------------------------
: >for old times' sake: Fleetwood Mac Mystery To Me
: > Fleetwood Mac Then Play On
: >
: Ah well, to each their own.
ah, but do you understand that this is a *totally different* Fleetwood Mac
from the radio-friendly mega-corporation you are used to?
"Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you
want me to." [Peter Green goes wild]
laura
--
Breathe,
Breathe in the air.
Don't be afraid to care.
Alex Fostiy
his best fusion works, IMHO.
"Imaginary Voyage" is a very good album too but it reflects a change in JLP
musical direction which led him later to play almost every instrument alone
on his next album.
> For the Love of God: Steve Vai Passion & Warfare
Excellent album. You will feel sparks of electricity coming out of your
speakers.
I would also recommend his latest "Ultra Zone" CD, one very serious piece of
work; superb recording quality.
Regards,
Alex
Dgasque
<bea...@xmission.com> writes:
>The Miles cd's are excellent, but if you don't have the later quintet
>recordings with Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, et al, go for those
>first.
Shorter over Coltrane? Isn't that forbidden talk in some areas of Internet?
--
=dg=
Dgasque
writes:
>: >for old times' sake: Fleetwood Mac Mystery To Me
>: > Fleetwood Mac Then Play On
>: >
>: Ah well, to each their own.
>
>ah, but do you understand that this is a *totally different* Fleetwood Mac
>from the radio-friendly mega-corporation you are used to?
>
oh yes...those pre-Nicks years were considerably better. The Mac just never
did a lot for me, though I'll admit that these two are much, much better than
the platinum-selling version of the band.
--
=dg=
Guy Berger
> Thus spake Stefan Dill:
>
> >Coltrane, A Love Supreme, a MUST.if you're feeling more brave, add Om
> >or Ascenscion. the 4 CD set Live In Japan, also worthy.
>
> There's a 2CD set called something like "the major works of John Coltrane"
> which has both versions of Ascension, Om, and a couple other lengthy pieces
> from '65. Still, I'd say go backwards rather than forwards first- Blue Train,
> for instance!
Impulse! is reissuing Ascension, Kulu Se Mama, and several other late Coltrane
albums in early June; at any rate, I'd say that after A Love Supreme you should
pick up Giant Steps & My Favorite Things.
Guy
----
gbe...@ucsd.edu
Josh Kortbein
: In article <44d2gs48sur2ln9sb...@4ax.com>, beatnik
: <bea...@xmission.com> writes:
Perhaps, but the second quintet discs really are something special.
Josh
NP: Mogwai, _Ten Rapid_
--
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http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kortbein/blog/
Stefan Dill
dga...@aol.com (Dgasque) wrote:
> In article <44d2gs48sur2ln9sb...@4ax.com>, beatnik
> <bea...@xmission.com> writes:
>
> >The Miles cd's are excellent, but if you don't have the later quintet
> >recordings with Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, et al, go for those
> >first.
>
> Shorter over Coltrane? Isn't that forbidden talk in some areas of
Internet?
that.
Guy Berger
> >Shorter over Coltrane? Isn't that forbidden talk in some areas of Internet?
>
> I defer to the Miles/Shorter period over Miles/Coltrane mainly because
> of Shorter's role as a more complementary composer to Miles' style,
> not to mention the cohesiveness of the quintet's rhythm section
> (Carter+Hancock+Williams).
Amen. While I love the Miles & Coltrane era (and _Kind of Blue_ is one of my
favorite albums, period) there's something really special about the 2nd Quintet.
Except for the Beatles, it may well have been the greatest musical unit of all
time.
Guy
np Marillion, Afraid of Sunlight
----
gbe...@ucsd.edu
DTohir
>my
>favorite albums, period) there's something really special about the 2nd
>Quintet.
>Except for the Beatles, it may well have been the greatest musical unit of
>all
>time.
Nah, that'd be the Art Ensemble of Chicago.
Dgasque
>
>beatnik wrote:
>
Well akchully, I scribbled...
>> >Shorter over Coltrane? Isn't that forbidden talk in some areas of
>Internet?
>>
>> I defer to the Miles/Shorter period over Miles/Coltrane mainly because
>> of Shorter's role as a more complementary composer to Miles' style,
>> not to mention the cohesiveness of the quintet's rhythm section
>> (Carter+Hancock+Williams).
>
> Amen. While I love the Miles & Coltrane era (and _Kind of Blue_ is one
>of my
>favorite albums, period) there's something really special about the 2nd
>Quintet.
I'm not dissing the 2nd 4tet- I guess because it was the first Miles I heard,
those first 4tet records hold a special place in my heart (break out the
violins.) And yeah, I agree with Stefan- Williams was a huge part of that 2nd
edition.
>Except for the Beatles, it may well have been the greatest musical unit of
>all
>time.
>
Even greater than the Residents?
--
=dg=
Aconitum napellans
>not prog but hey: Cowboy Junkies Miles From Our Home
> Cowboy Junkies Trinity Session
Arghhh! Now I have their narcotic version of "Sweet Jane" stuck in my
head, *again*! Thanks a lot! %-{)>
>
>any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
>wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
>
If I'm not mistaken, these are *very* early Miles. In his "cool jazz"
period, he peaked a little later, with _Kind Of Blue_ and _Sketches Of Spain_.
A couple of later 60's albums worth looking into: _E.S.P._ and _Miles Smiles_.
Later, Miles added electricity, creating what would later be called "fusion",
and turned off a lot of jazz purists in the process. _In A Silent Way_ was the
first of these, and they're all adventurous and excellent: _Bitches Brew_,
_Live Evil_ and the _Tribute To Jack Johnson_ soundtrack are from these, and
most feature a who's who of future fusion stars: John McLaughlin, Chick Corea,
Joe Zawinul, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Cobham, Keith Jarrett, etc. Disillusioned
by the lack of a young black audience for his music, Miles subsequently added a
significant dose of funk to his sound, as well as intriguing experiments with
African and Asian polyrhythms. The result: some of his most adventurous and
intriguing albums: _On The Corner_, _Agharta_ and _Dark Magus_ are some of the
best.
>for old times' sake: Fleetwood Mac Mystery To Me
> Fleetwood Mac Then Play On
>
Two of their best. I think that _Then Play On_, from their amazing
three-guitar period (Spencer/Green/Kirwan), is probably their best album. But
then, any album containing the mind-boggling, two-part version of "Oh Well"
would be worth owning. _Mystery To Me_ is one of the better albums from the Bob
Welch period. My favourite from this period is _Bare Trees_. _Future Games_ is
good too, and _Penguin_ has its moments. _Heroes Are Hard To Find_ is pretty
lame for the most part, though. _Mr. Wonderful_ is another good early album (I
think their great instrumental "Albatross" was tacked onto the CD as a bonus
track, but I may be wrong. I know for sure it's on _English Rose_, a
compilation of their earliest work which also contains the original "Black
Magic Woman). _Kiln House_ is a little "country"-ish for my taste.
>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
>
This is his "pop" project. It's also quite excellent, a lot of odd little
pieces with his trademark "Frippertronics", and vocal contributions from Maggie
and Terre Roche, Peter Hammill, Peter Gabriel and Daryl Hall. Comparable to
solo Gabriel in many ways.
>get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
>
I'd probably wait for the remaster. At least that's what I'm doing with
_Islands_. Will this version have the original cover art?
>*blush* Madonna Erotica
>
If you must indulge with Madonna, at least get _Ray Of Light_. Probably
the album of hers that least makes me want to puke. %-{)>
>don't I have this already? Joni Mitchell Clouds
>
I have a close friend who both enjoy Ms. Mitchell's music a good deal, but
differ greatly on which period was best. He prefers the pre-_Court & Spark_
Joni, whereas I prefer her post-C&S period. I think her early stuff can be a
tad naïve, whereas albums like _The Hissing Of Summer Lawns_ and _Hejira_ are a
good deal more mature. Don't let that stop you from getting _Clouds_. There's
lots of great songs on that one (though I maintain that the best of her early
albums is _Blue_).
>right Monk to get? Thelonious Monk Vol. 1-Genius Of Modern Music
> Thelonious Monk Vol. 2-Genius Of Modern Music
>
I'm no expert on Monk, but what I've heard by him is definitely...unique
(I'm mainly referring to his piano playing).
>*different* old times: Graham Parker Squeezing Out Sparks/Live Spar
>
That's right, they added live bonus tracks to the CD of this, didn't they?
THis certainly was a high point for Parker, IMO.
>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
>
I prefer Mahavishnu Orchestra. This one sounds like Mahavishnu Lite to me.
>not on a Stones kick these Rolling Stones Beggar's Banquet
>days ... Rolling Stones Big Hits (High Tide & Green Gr
> Rolling Stones Let It Bleed
> Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
>
Of these, _BB_ is far and away my favourite.
>don't know these; heard Talking Heads Remain In Light
>great things about em - ? Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues
>
Get _Remain In Light_. I'd recommend _Fear Of Music_ too.
>AHA!!! at long last! ;-) Van Der Graaf Generator H To He Who Am The
>right, steven? Only One
> Van Der Graaf Generator Least We Can Do Is
> Wave To Eac
>
Yeah, both must-buys. I think _Least We Can Do_ was the second VdGG album
I ever bought, and I wasn't disappointed.
>right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body Electric
I think it's one of their high points, yes.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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Daniel Hollis
I haven't heard this one, but their first album is excellent. It's a
fresh sound. (At least to me, it is!)
>precursor to Thurs Aft: Brian Eno Ambient 1-Music For Airports
This is very good, but a little hard to get into. Such a minimalist
piece might not be interesting enough to prog fans in general.
>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
I was surprised when I heard this the first time. It's not at all like
King Crimson. It's similar to the sound-oriented Eno which I am not a
/huge/ fan of, but in and of itself, the album's not bad. It has a very
good version of Peter Gabriel's "Here comes the Flood".
>get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
Get it now.
>why?: R.E.M. Green
I am guilty of picking up _Automatic for the People_, which is nice to
listen too every once in a long while. It's definitely 100% popular
music as opposed to anything Progressive. As such, I find that it grows
away from you rather than grows on you. I'd skip this one.
>don't know these; heard Talking Heads Remain In Light
>great things about em - ? Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues
They're 80's pop that's a little off the beaten path. IIRC, _Stop
Making Sense_ is their most popular album - or it's a compilation. I
really don't know. I'd find a copy to listen to before buying anything.
>wtf was I thinking? VA-Dub Gone Crazy Dub Gone Crazy
Actually, compilations are the best place to find good techno and
ambient dance music. Most musicians in this genre have very little
material, and of their work there's not much of it that's that good.
Dan
Steven Sullivan
: laura in space wrote:
:>not prog but hey: Cowboy Junkies Miles From Our Home
:> Cowboy Junkies Trinity Session
: Arghhh! Now I have their narcotic version of "Sweet Jane" stuck in my
: head, *again*! Thanks a lot! %-{)>
:>
:>any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
:>wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
:> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
:> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
:>
: If I'm not mistaken, these are *very* early Miles. In his "cool jazz"
: period, he peaked a little later, with _Kind Of Blue_ and _Sketches Of Spain_.
: A couple of later 60's albums worth looking into: _E.S.P._ and _Miles Smiles_.
: Later, Miles added electricity, creating what would later be called "fusion",
: and turned off a lot of jazz purists in the process. _In A Silent Way_ was the
: first of these, and they're all adventurous and excellent: _Bitches Brew_,
: _Live Evil_ and the _Tribute To Jack Johnson_ soundtrack are from these, and
: most feature a who's who of future fusion stars: John McLaughlin, Chick Corea,
: Joe Zawinul, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Cobham, Keith Jarrett, etc. Disillusioned
: by the lack of a young black audience for his music, Miles subsequently added a
: significant dose of funk to his sound, as well as intriguing experiments with
: African and Asian polyrhythms. The result: some of his most adventurous and
: intriguing albums: _On The Corner_, _Agharta_ and _Dark Magus_ are some of the
: best.
"Jack Johnson" already had the funk going on.
"LIve/Evil' is another one to get -- a two disc live/studio set.
:>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
:>
: This is his "pop" project. It's also quite excellent, a lot of odd
little : pieces with his trademark "Frippertronics", and vocal
contributions from Maggie : and Terre Roche, Peter Hammill, Peter Gabriel
and Daryl Hall. Comparable to : solo Gabriel in many ways.
The only Roche on that one is Terre. She goes all pyrotechnic on
'Exposure' (lots creepier than P Gabriel's version) and on the duet with
Peter Hammill, but her best moment IMO is on the beautiful 'acoustic'
track, 'Mary'.
:>get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
:>
: I'd probably wait for the remaster. At least that's what I'm doing with
: _Islands_. Will this version have the original cover art?
The Islands remaster has been out for some weeks now. It's a notable
improvement over the 'Definitive Edition'.
:>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
:>
: I prefer Mahavishnu Orchestra. This one sounds like Mahavishnu Lite to
: me.
A keeper for me only because Holdsworth plays on it. The little guitar
duel he has with Daryl Stuermer on that long track about the turtle (ah,
the 70's) is a real 'separating the men from the boys' type of affair.
:>not on a Stones kick these Rolling Stones Beggar's Banquet
:>days ... Rolling Stones Big Hits (High Tide & Green Gr
:> Rolling Stones Let It Bleed
:> Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
:>
: Of these, _BB_ is far and away my favourite.
Laura, I assume you already have 'Exile on Main Street'? If not, that one
is a must-get.
Steven Sullivan
:>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
: I was surprised when I heard this the first time. It's not at all like
: King Crimson.
Some of it is -- notably Breathless and Haaden Two. Fripp has been
recycling riffs from this album ever since.
> It's similar to the sound-oriented Eno which I am not a
: /huge/ fan of, but in and of itself, the album's not bad. It has a very
: good version of Peter Gabriel's "Here comes the Flood".
The best one, IMO -- thought again I prefere the original vocal track
on hte Exposure LP to the remix on the CD.
:>get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
: Get it now.
Just FYI, LAura, when I played you some KC at your request, the
first thing I played was Starless (off Red), which bored you. I'd suggest
you wait, or at least check out Larks Tongues and S&BB first.
Aconitum napellans
>:>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
>:>
>
>: I prefer Mahavishnu Orchestra. This one sounds like Mahavishnu Lite to
>: me.
>
>A keeper for me only because Holdsworth plays on it. The little guitar
>duel he has with Daryl Stuermer on that long track about the turtle (ah,
>the 70's) is a real 'separating the men from the boys' type of affair.
To each his own. I always found Holdsworth to be a poor-man's McLaughlin.
Which, for this album at least, is fitting.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
"Siento que debemos saber para el sueño de quién brillará esta luz
o consagrar una propia estrella" --Alberto Felici
N.P.:"Tristan et Iseult"- S k r y v a n i a
laura in space
: Just FYI, LAura, when I played you some KC at your request, the
: first thing I played was Starless (off Red), which bored you.
it did?!? I don't recall being *bored* by it (??) I remember saying,
"ah - *now* I get it - all those bands that 'sound like Red-era King Crimson'
sound like *this*." (does that sound like "bored"?? I didn't mean it to)
I thought you played me the title track first, and that's what made me say it.
I'd suggest
: you wait, or at least check out Larks Tongues and S&BB first.
well, that's what I've been doing - jumping in the deep end, with a lil help
from my friends! ;-) we "simul-played" Larks in the chat room and I *LIKED*
it!! so have been riding around listening to Larks/Starless tape ... well,
for a while anyway ... now it's back to Yes as usual.
so, I'm getting to *know* these - will eventually get up the courage to *buy*.
laura
--
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Steven Sullivan
: Steven Sullivan wrote:
:>:>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
:>:>
:>
:>: I prefer Mahavishnu Orchestra. This one sounds like Mahavishnu Lite to
:>: me.
:>
:>A keeper for me only because Holdsworth plays on it. The little guitar
:>duel he has with Daryl Stuermer on that long track about the turtle (ah,
:>the 70's) is a real 'separating the men from the boys' type of affair.
: To each his own. I always found Holdsworth to be a poor-man's McLaughlin.
: Which, for this album at least, is fitting.
?? McLaughlin and Holdsworth sounds about as different as fusion
guitarists can be, to me. Each one's style is utterly distinct. If
anyone's the poor man's JM, it's guys like Stuermer, who have the speed
but not the ideas.
Steven Sullivan
: : Just FYI, LAura, when I played you some KC at your request, the
: : first thing I played was Starless (off Red), which bored you.
: it did?!? I don't recall being *bored* by it (??) I remember saying,
: "ah - *now* I get it - all those bands that 'sound like Red-era King Crimson'
: sound like *this*." (does that sound like "bored"?? I didn't mean it to)
Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
certainly did not protest.
: I thought you played me the title track first, and that's what made me say it.
I', pretty sure I played that bit of Starless first. Starless was the
slow song, with mellotron, not the heavy song (Red).
Gamantyo Hendrantoro
>laura in space <ld...@world.std.com> wrote:
>: it did?!? I don't recall being *bored* by it (??) I remember
>: saying, "ah - *now* I get it - all those bands that 'sound like
>: Red-era King Crimson' sound like *this*." (does that sound like
>: "bored"?? I didn't mean it to)
>Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
>certainly did not protest.
Maybe the problem is Laura didn't know what she expected to hear when you
played "Starless" for her. Moreover, by listening to only the first
two minutes into "Starless", she certainly missed the climax-building
instrumental passage in the later half of the song and understandably
didn't protest your stopping it.
Steven Sullivan
: Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> berkata:
:>laura in space <ld...@world.std.com> wrote:
:>: it did?!? I don't recall being *bored* by it (??) I remember
:>: saying, "ah - *now* I get it - all those bands that 'sound like
:>: Red-era King Crimson' sound like *this*." (does that sound like
:>: "bored"?? I didn't mean it to)
:>Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
:>certainly did not protest.
: Maybe the problem is Laura didn't know what she expected to hear when you
: played "Starless" for her.
Well, if you have know what to expect to hear, in order to like a song,
that makes things rather boring.
: Moreover, by listening to only the first
: two minutes into "Starless", she certainly missed the climax-building
: instrumental passage in the later half of the song and understandably
: didn't protest your stopping it.
LOL. Maybe. But maybe it's just not that thrilling a song, on first
listen. Certainly wasn't for me.
@yahoo.com Jim Mooney
<sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote:
>Aconitum napellans <prog...@aol.comGEORYN> wrote:
>: laura in space wrote:
>:>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
>:>
>
>: I prefer Mahavishnu Orchestra. This one sounds like Mahavishnu Lite to
>: me.
>
>A keeper for me only because Holdsworth plays on it. The little guitar
>duel he has with Daryl Stuermer on that long track about the turtle (ah,
>the 70's) is a real 'separating the men from the boys' type of affair.
Holdsworth appears on "Enigmatic Ocean". That and one of Ponty's
mid-80s one-man-band efforts. Stuermer's the only guitarist on
Imaginary Voyage.
Does anyone know, did Holdsworth tour with Ponty in support of
Enigmatic Ocean ?
Jim
@yahoo.com Jim Mooney
wrote:
>> I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
>Can you get "Enigmatic Ocean" and "Cosmic Messenger" instead? These 2 are
>his best fusion works, IMHO.
>"Imaginary Voyage" is a very good album too but it reflects a change in JLP
>musical direction which led him later to play almost every instrument alone
>on his next album.
??? Enigmatic Ocean _is_ the album after Imaginary Voyage. Then
"Cosmic Messenger", "Civilized Evil", "A Taste for Passion" and 1 or 2
more before the mid-80's nadir of JLP's one-man solo albums.
Jim
@yahoo.com Jim Mooney
wrote:
>any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
>wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
I'm far from a Miles expert, but I started with "Kind of Blue" and
"Bitches Brew" and worked my way from there. I don't know these 4
"in'" recordings.
>only "need" CC99: Genesis Turn It On Again-Hits
Only if you have nothing better to do with the money.
>better get this: Kevin Gilbert Thud
Yeah, you'd better.
>get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
At this point, I'd wait for the remaster. Of course, in Fripp's case,
he'll be rerereremastering the catalog until he wears the tapes out.
>gotta have it: Bob Marley & Wailers Live
Gotta have it.
>hmmm: Neal Morse Neal Morse
Poppier than "Day for Night". I have it and rarely listen to it.
>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
You should have this and "Enigmatic Ocean" at a minimum.
>why?: R.E.M. Green
Good question.
>not on a Stones kick these Rolling Stones Beggar's Banquet
>days ... Rolling Stones Big Hits (High Tide & Green Gr
> Rolling Stones Let It Bleed
> Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
Never was a Stones fan.
>guess I better get this: Transatlantic Smpte
Yeah, but skip the Special Limited Edition. The regular one is good
enough; the book and extra disc in the SE aren't worth the money.
Understand, if you're expecting "Close to the Edge 2", you're setting
yourself up for a major disappointment. It's very, very good, but only
about an 8.5 out of 10.
>For the Love of God: Steve Vai Passion & Warfare
Can't you find a Trevor Rabin CD instead ?
>AHA!!! at long last! ;-) Van Der Graaf Generator H To He Who Am The
>right, steven? Only One
Mandatory!! One of the greatest albums I've ever heard. Buy 2 copies
of this; mine is on permanent loan someplace.
Jim
Zero the Hero
>>any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
>>wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
>> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
>> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
> I'm far from a Miles expert, but I started with "Kind of Blue" and
> "Bitches Brew" and worked my way from there. I don't know these 4
> "in'" recordings.
I know 3 of them, all are great 50's bop recordings. These are the
first Quintet's four 1956 Prestige recordings (IIRC, 'Milestones' was also
1956, for Columbia, and is also great). Miles had a true knack for
selecting fanatastic sidemen and making them stars.
Jason
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TOIB
> CDNow has just informed me that everything I had saved to my wish list by
> April 17 is on sale ($2 off) until May 1.
Yup. Three Ruins CDs for $11.99 each or less. Woulda done better
if they still had coupons though :).
> rather odd selection - most of the stuff I *really wanted right now* I just
> went ahead and bought.
That's what my Wish List is like as well. Lots of stuff that I've
been saying "Yeah, I'll get around to it", but I never get around to it.
For some reason I just can't bring myself to bother getting that last
Miriodor album I need, or Univers Zero's _Heresie_, or whatever...
> perhaps I could use some assistance from my trusted friends here (and who
> might *that* be?) on which items I *really need*. fair amount o jazz; not
> really knowing which ones to choose. a few gems in here. and others I
> don't remember how they got here.
I will procrastinate.
> bout time: John Coltrane Love Supreme
Yes, definitely.
> precursor to Thurs Aft: Brian Eno Ambient 1-Music For Airports
The title is *very* appropriate. Don't get it expecting anything
other than background music. Generally a good candidate for
try-before-you-buy, unless you're into ambient music already.
> only "need" CC99: Genesis Turn It On Again-Hits
<chuckle>
> get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
Might as well wait. I sure hope there's pretty packaging!!!!!!!!
> don't I have this already? Joni Mitchell Clouds
> *need* Ltd Ed? why?? Joni Mitchell Both Sides Now (Ltd Ed)
> CD Add to Cart $44.99
I just saw a really pompous article by her in the paper, actually.
Among other pearls of wisdom, apparently nobody white ever made good rock
music, or something.
> hmmm: Neal Morse Neal Morse
Please don't encourage him.
> why?: R.E.M. Green
Cuz early REM is cool? Oh wait, it's not cool to say that anymore,
is it? Oh well, I'll say it anyway. :)
> not on a Stones kick these Rolling Stones Beggar's Banquet
> days ... Rolling Stones Big Hits (High Tide & Green Gr
> Rolling Stones Let It Bleed
> Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
You have a couple of Stones classics in there, although I'd prefer
to wait for an affordable box set that has "everything".
> think I need this: Simon & Garfunkel Concert In Central Park
Hmm.. I think the only S&G song I don't have which I'd like to
have is Dangling Conversation.
> guess I better get this: Transatlantic Smpte
Make them earn it in June .. that's what I'm doing.
> AHA!!! at long last! ;-) Van Der Graaf Generator H To He Who Am The
> right, steven? Only One
> Van Der Graaf Generator Least We Can Do Is
> Wave To Eac
To be honest, I think both of these albums show a band who hadn't
hit their stride yet, and wouldn't do so until _Pawn Hearts_. There's some
nice stuff here, but then again there's also 'Pioneers Over C', 'Killer'
and 'White Hammer'. YMMV.
> right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body Electric
Hopefully it's more interesting.
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laura in space
: Gamantyo Hendrantoro <gama...@sce.carletonRE.MOVEca> berkata:
: : Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> berkata:
: :>laura in space <ld...@world.std.com> menulis: ;-)
: :>: it did?!? I don't recall being *bored* by it (??) I remember
: :>: saying, "ah - *now* I get it - all those bands that 'sound like
: :>: Red-era King Crimson' sound like *this*." (does that sound like
: :>: "bored"?? I didn't mean it to)
: :>Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
: :>certainly did not protest.
oh. OK. if you say so. I would not expect to remember *everything* you
played for me!! ;-) as I recall, I tried to put on S&BB and hit the wrong
button and got Weather Report instead ... which prompted you to play the
*live* WR album which must be 8:30 (right?) ... Jaco-fest!! accompanied
by Sullivan on air-bass ;-)
Sullivan plays ***excellent*** real-bass, for those of you who didn't know.
: : Maybe the problem is Laura didn't know what she expected to hear when you
: : played "Starless" for her.
: Well, if you have know what to expect to hear, in order to like a song,
: that makes things rather boring.
I guess "Red" was more like what I *expected* to hear - from all the "sounds
like Red-era KC" clones ;-)
: : Moreover, by listening to only the first
: : two minutes into "Starless", she certainly missed the climax-building
: : instrumental passage in the later half of the song and understandably
: : didn't protest your stopping it.
: LOL. Maybe. But maybe it's just not that thrilling a song, on first
: listen. Certainly wasn't for me.
I have just gotten a tape of Red and Wake of Poseidon (thank you, Mike!!)
so now I get to hear the whole thing - including the "climax-building" part.
there seems to be an international conspiracy to get me into King Crimson.
not that I'm *complaining*, mind you ;-) !!
laura
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All of this and some of that's the only way to skin the cat.
JCRYIAD
(snip)
Re: Joni Mitchell
> I just saw a really pompous article by her in the paper, actually.
>Among other pearls of wisdom, apparently nobody white ever made good rock
>music, or something.
Or something is the key here.
JCRyiad
"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to
please everyone."
-Bill Cosby
Steven Sullivan
: On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:28:24 GMT, Steven Sullivan
: <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote:
:>Aconitum napellans <prog...@aol.comGEORYN> wrote:
:>: laura in space wrote:
:>:>I think I got this: Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
:>:>
:>
:>: I prefer Mahavishnu Orchestra. This one sounds like Mahavishnu Lite to
:>: me.
:>
:>A keeper for me only because Holdsworth plays on it. The little guitar
:>duel he has with Daryl Stuermer on that long track about the turtle (ah,
:>the 70's) is a real 'separating the men from the boys' type of affair.
: Holdsworth appears on "Enigmatic Ocean". That and one of Ponty's
: mid-80s one-man-band efforts. Stuermer's the only guitarist on
: Imaginary Voyage.
Right , I got the two mixed up. The one I'm referring to is EO.
Guy Berger
> I know 3 of them, all are great 50's bop recordings. These are the
> first Quintet's four 1956 Prestige recordings (IIRC, 'Milestones' was also
> 1956, for Columbia, and is also great). Miles had a true knack for
> selecting fanatastic sidemen and making them stars.
_Milestones_ was recorded in 1958 with an expanded sextet lineup that
included Cannonball Adderley; the recording you may be referring to is _'Round
About Midnight_. It is also great, but I prefer the Prestige stuff.
Guy
np Sonny Rollins, Saxophone Colossus
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All your byzantine excuses, given time, give you away
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Bradley Evans
TOIB writes:
>laura in awakens Beta 14 OK:
>> CDNow has just informed me that everything I had saved to my wish list by
>> April 17 is on sale ($2 off) until May 1.
>
> Yup. Three Ruins CDs for $11.99 each or less. Woulda done better
>if they still had coupons though :).
Their few remaining coupons aren't compatible with the Wish List sale. I
tried already :(.
-Brad
NP: Aphex Twin _Richard D James Album_
Daniel Hollis
Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote:
>Daniel Hollis <hol...@math.umn.edu> wrote:
>
>:>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
>
>: I was surprised when I heard this the first time. It's not at all like
>: King Crimson.
>
>
>Some of it is -- notably Breathless and Haaden Two. Fripp has been
>recycling riffs from this album ever since.
Ah, yes, I can hear it now that you point it out. I generally pick up on
mood and style rather than the musician's technical playing, so I easily
miss these sorts of things.
>:>get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
>
>: Get it now.
>
>Just FYI, LAura, when I played you some KC at your request, the
>first thing I played was Starless (off Red), which bored you. I'd suggest
>you wait, or at least check out Larks Tongues and S&BB first.
Okay then I will change my recommendation and say wait on this one. If
Laura's already going to be buying a lot of albums, waiting probably would
be best.
I actually found Larks Tongues to be the hardest to get into myself, but
still worth the effort. The title track especially. The album that sold
me on KC was S&BB. The second side especially. I'd say listen to these
when you can, pick up the one you like the most, and it will grow on you.
Then you're really want the other 2 albums.
Dan
Zero the Hero
> _Milestones_ was recorded in 1958 with an expanded sextet lineup that
> included Cannonball Adderley; the recording you may be referring to is _'Round
> About Midnight_. It is also great, but I prefer the Prestige stuff.
<checks> Damn, you're right of course. Milestones was '58.
Haven't heard 'Round About Midnight in years. Need to fill that hole in
my collection...
Steven Sullivan
: In article <%elN4.1606$D8.1...@grover.nit.gwu.edu> sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote...
:> Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
:> certainly did not protest.
: I trust you've played it all by now!
Once or twice, yeah. (<--joke.)
laura in space
: In article <%elN4.1606$D8.1...@grover.nit.gwu.edu> sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote...
: > Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
: > certainly did not protest.
: I trust you've played it all by now!
gaah! workin on it ... just got your tape *yesterday* & Wake of Poseidon is
now playing in the car - I am falling in love with it!! (so far) ...
OK, *so far* - 1st side only - I'd say Wake is my *fave* KC!!! *wow*!
just plain *gorgeous* music - OK, so I'm a sucker for Big Mellotron Washes
;-) and lovely acoustic guitar ... and I think I'm falling in love with
John Wetton - beautiful voice, just give him some *decent lyrics* to sing!!
which so far I think Wake fits the bill - suitably "mythic" ... all this on
first listen, mind you ... and ohhh, those bass lines ... this album could
definitely get me "in the mood" (is that what you're getting at, Mike?? ;-) )
of course I am keeping in the back of my mind, "sooner or later this is
bound to turn EEeeeville..." since you warned me not to play "Devil's Triangle"
for elderly relatives (unless I want to see an inheritance forthwith ;-) )
in this current project to fill the gaping Crimson-shaped hole (?!) in my
musical knowledge, with a bit of international assistance ...
my initial responses (or re-responses) to the King Crimson albums I've heard
so far:
Starless and Bible Black: well, maybe if I *reeeeally* work on it I can
get over my early trauma and learn to get into this one ... (getting there)
don't think I will ever be able to listen to "cigarettes, ice cream" without
cringing though. doesn't get the album off to a good start. I like Fracture!
big "stomping" melody, even if it is an "assault" (according to Sullivan).
Larks' Tongues in Aspic: hey, to my amazement, I kinda *like* this!! even
the eeeville parts! with a lil help from my friends ;-)
Red: OK, so that's what "sounds like King Crimson" sounds like. (title track)
In the Court...: OK, so it's a "classic" (yawn) ... have title track on my
"Mythic Songs" tape. rest of it I don't even remember so can probly do
without.
Wake...: first one that's gotten an unabashed, "Hey, I *LOVE* this!!" on
first listen! stay tuned later today after I've heard "Devil's Triangle" ;-)
well there you have it ... my Crimson indoctrination, as it happens!
laura
p.s. oh yeah, Lizard - the only KC album I *own* (!) still weirded out by
Jon Anderson singing "stake a lizard by the throat" (!!) so haven't listened
to it more than a couple o times.
OK, it's settled - to get the remasters. ;-)
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: Jim Mooney <jt_mooneyREMOVE @yahoo.com> spluttered:
: >>any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
: >>wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
: >> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
: >> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
: > I'm far from a Miles expert, but I started with "Kind of Blue" and
: > "Bitches Brew" and worked my way from there. I don't know these 4
: > "in'" recordings.
: I know 3 of them, all are great 50's bop recordings. These are the
: first Quintet's four 1956 Prestige recordings (IIRC, 'Milestones' was also
: 1956, for Columbia, and is also great). Miles had a true knack for
: selecting fanatastic sidemen and making them stars.
OK Jason, which *one* do I get? ;-)
turns out "Cookin'" is not the remaster if that matters.
laura
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laura in space
: Mike Dickson <mike@blackcat..demon..co..uk> wrote:
: : In article <%elN4.1606$D8.1...@grover.nit.gwu.edu> sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote...
: :> Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
: :> certainly did not protest.
: : I trust you've played it all by now!
: Once or twice, yeah. (<--joke.)
umm - Steve, I think Mike was talkin to me. ;-)
laura
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Zero the Hero
> OK Jason, which *one* do I get? ;-)
I dunno, any of them will do for starters, I guess.
I will second the recommendation for Kind of Blue, though. You need to
get that, sooner not later.
Jason
NP: Bondage Fruit IV
Noah Samuel Lesgold
> just plain *gorgeous* music - OK, so I'm a sucker for Big Mellotron Washes
> ;-) and lovely acoustic guitar ... and I think I'm falling in love with
> John Wetton - beautiful voice, just give him some *decent lyrics* to sing!!
I hate to tell you, but on _In the Wake of Poseidon_, the primary
singer was Greg Lake (who could be a pretty decent singer at times,
before he stopped caring). I don't recall if he sings on all the
tracks, or just most of them, as I've never actually heard the album,
apart from tracks on the _Frame by Frame_ box set.
As for Wetton, the only King Crimson material he sings on is the
Larks'/Starless/Red 72-74 period, and also, of course, collected on
_The Night Watch_ and _Great Deceiver_. You may also be interested in
Steve Hackett's _Tokyo Tapes_ album, which is a recording of a
one-shot gig in Tokyo featuring a band made up of Hackett, John Wetton
on vox/bass, Ian Mcdonald, Weather Report's Chester Thompson on drums,
and frequent Hackett band member Julian Colbeck on keys. The material
is mostly Hackett solo work and Hackett-period Genesis, along with a
couple Wetton songs and truly excellent versions of "In the Court of
the Crimson King" and "I Talk to the Wind". Wetton's voice suits all
the material remarkably well (I was particularly surprised by his take
on Gabriel's vocal parts for the Genesis material), and the album is
quite inexpensive for a 2cd set (about $14.00 from CDnow). You'd
probably enjoy it a lot.
> which so far I think Wake fits the bill - suitably "mythic" ... all this on
> first listen, mind you ... and ohhh, those bass lines ... this album could
> definitely get me "in the mood" (is that what you're getting at, Mike?? ;-) )
As above, Lake does most/all of the bass work on _Poseidon_, I believe.
> Starless and Bible Black: well, maybe if I *reeeeally* work on it I can
> get over my early trauma and learn to get into this one ... (getting there)
> don't think I will ever be able to listen to "cigarettes, ice cream" without
> cringing though. doesn't get the album off to a good start. I like
> Fracture!
> big "stomping" melody, even if it is an "assault" (according to
> Sullivan).
Well, I've never really gotten into this one; altho I love all the
vocal tracks, most of the instrumentals leave me unmoved. I've only
listened to it a few times though, since I've only borrowed, never owned.
> Larks' Tongues in Aspic: hey, to my amazement, I kinda *like* this!! even
> the eeeville parts! with a lil help from my friends ;-)
Larks' Tongues is awesome. Possibly my favorite crim, although I'm
also very fond of _Discipline_.
> Red: OK, so that's what "sounds like King Crimson" sounds
> like. (title track)
More or less. A fine album which I've somehow never managed to
actually own. Something I'll probably pick up when the new remaster
comes out.
> In the Court...: OK, so it's a "classic" (yawn) ... have title track on my
> "Mythic Songs" tape. rest of it I don't even remember so can probly do
> without.
*chuckle* Well, you might want to give it another listen. I'm weird,
though, in that I actually like "Moonchild". It has lots of mellotron
washes, Lake bass lines and vox, and really is pretty much the same
formula as _In the Wake..._ (see recent thread).
Noah
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Noah Samuel Lesgold <nles...@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> wrote:
> ld...@world.std.com (laura in space) writes:
>
> > just plain *gorgeous* music - OK, so I'm a sucker for Big Mellotron
Washes
> > ;-) and lovely acoustic guitar ... and I think I'm falling in love
with
> > John Wetton - beautiful voice, just give him some *decent lyrics* to
sing!!
>
> I hate to tell you, but on _In the Wake of Poseidon_, the primary
> singer was Greg Lake (who could be a pretty decent singer at times,
> before he stopped caring). I don't recall if he sings on all the
> tracks, or just most of them, as I've never actually heard the album,
> apart from tracks on the _Frame by Frame_ box set.
Apart from 'Cadence And Cascade' - which was sung by Gordon Haskell, who
sung on "Lizard", all vox on that album are Lake. Some of the bass,
however, is Pete Giles.
>
> As for Wetton... You may also be interested in
> Steve Hackett's _Tokyo Tapes_ album, which is a recording of a
> one-shot gig in Tokyo
several-shot, actually. They did a little mini-tour, because his
Japanese record company *cared* about the album.
featuring a band made up of Hackett, John Wetton
> on vox/bass, Ian Mcdonald, ->Weather Report's<- Chester Thompson
and Genesis!!! and Zappa!!! and other people.
> and frequent Hackett band member Julian Colbeck on keys.
who was also a member of the ABWH/Union cast of thousands.
The material
> is mostly Hackett solo work and Hackett-period Genesis, along with a
> couple Wetton songs and truly excellent versions of "In the Court of
> the Crimson King" and "I Talk to the Wind".
"I Talk To The Wind" is actually sung by Ian Macdonald. Not bad.
> > which so far I think Wake fits the bill - suitably "mythic" ... all
this on
> > first listen, mind you ... and ohhh, those bass lines ... this
album could
> > definitely get me "in the mood" (is that what you're getting at,
Mike?? ;-) )
>
> As above, Lake does most/all of the bass work on _Poseidon_, I
believe.
As I said - some Lake, some Giles. Cat Food I know is Lake on vox and
Giles on bass.
> > Starless and Bible Black: well, maybe if I *reeeeally* work on it I
can
> > get over my early trauma and learn to get into this one ...
> Well, I've never really gotten into this one; altho I love all the
> vocal tracks, most of the instrumentals leave me unmoved. I've only
> listened to it a few times though, since I've only borrowed, never
owned.
Well, it's not Larks' Tongues, but almost. Own. You'll like.
:)
Adam
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Before you buy.
Zero the Hero
> I hate to tell you, but on _In the Wake of Poseidon_, the primary
> singer was Greg Lake (who could be a pretty decent singer at times,
> before he stopped caring). I don't recall if he sings on all the
> tracks, or just most of them, as I've never actually heard the album,
> apart from tracks on the _Frame by Frame_ box set.
Lake sings all tracks (that have vocals) except 'Cadence and Cascade',
which is by Gordon Haskell (the Lizard guy). (IIRC, 'CaC' was overdubbed
by Belew on the FbF box.)
> Steve Hackett's _Tokyo Tapes_ album, which is a recording of a
> one-shot gig in Tokyo featuring a band made up of Hackett, John Wetton
> on vox/bass, Ian Mcdonald, Weather Report's Chester Thompson on drums,
Why do I always see Chester Thompson referred to as ex-Weather Report? He
was on just one WR album, but several Zappa albums, which seems a stronger
'prog' connection to me...
> As above, Lake does most/all of the bass work on _Poseidon_, I believe.
Nope. That's Peter Giles.
[re: ITCotCK]
> *chuckle* Well, you might want to give it another listen. I'm weird,
> though, in that I actually like "Moonchild". It has lots of mellotron
> washes, Lake bass lines and vox, and really is pretty much the same
> formula as _In the Wake..._ (see recent thread).
That's just side *one*, dammit! :-)
Jason
Angus Rodgers
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> In article <FtDnw...@world.std.com>, ld...@world.std.com
> (laura in space) writes:
>
> >Comments Laura's Wish List
> >[...]
> >don't know these; heard Talking Heads Remain In Light
> >great things about em - ? Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues
> >
> _Talking Heads 77_ is the one to get
Yes, it's good, but get Remain In Light too, you won't be disappointed.
Don't know Speaking in Tongues. Didn't like Little Creatures or Naked.
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Zero the Hero
>> (laura in space) writes:
>>
>> >don't know these; heard Talking Heads Remain In Light
>> >great things about em - ? Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues
> Yes, it's good, but get Remain In Light too, you won't be disappointed.
> Don't know Speaking in Tongues. Didn't like Little Creatures or Naked.
_Remain in Light_ features some of Belew's best guitar soloing (especially
on 'The Great Curve'), and is a great album anyway. Get it now. If you
like that, turn back around and get _Speaking in Tongues_ also, and after
*that*, the live CD _Stop Making Sense_.
I've never liked little creatures naked.
Noah Samuel Lesgold
> laura in space (ld...@world.std.com) wrote:
>
> : just plain *gorgeous* music - OK, so I'm a sucker for Big Mellotron Washes
> : ;-) and lovely acoustic guitar ... and I think I'm falling in love with
> : John Wetton - beautiful voice, just give him some *decent lyrics* to sing!!
>
> *ooops* - I seem to have accidentally fallen in love with Greg Lake! :-/
> oh well, stranger things have happened.
Just try to avoid catching a glimpse of how _he_ turned out... (and
you thought Squire was bad...)
Noah
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> In article <FtDnw...@world.std.com>,
> laura in space <ld...@world.std.com> wrote:
> >why?: R.E.M. Green
>
> I am guilty of picking up _Automatic for the People_, which is
> nice to listen too every once in a long while. It's definitely
> 100% popular music as opposed to anything Progressive. As such,
> I find that it grows away from you rather than grows on you.
> I'd skip this one.
Their albums vary a lot. I recently bought AftP too, and am
disappointed, so far. But Out of Time is great, as is their
'best of' compilation. Document and Life's Rich Pageant are
both good, but haven't grabbed me like Out of Time. I still
have to catch up on this band, and haven't heard Green. Not
a lot of use, then! :)
I agree, REM aren't at all 'prog'; but still I have a feeling
that there's a lot of good music which is likely to appeal to
prog fans, and REM belong to that ill-defined category.
Angus Rodgers
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> Comments Laura's Wish List
> AHA!!! at long last! ;-) Van Der Graaf Generator H To He Who Am The
> right, steven? Only One
> Van Der Graaf Generator Least We Can Do Is
> Wave To Eac
Not the two VdGG albums I'd pick. YMMV, but I found TLWCDIWTEO
boring (and gave it away), whereas HtHWatOO is definitely worth
getting: but still not a patch on Pawn Hearts. I'd even prefer
their later Still Life or Godbluff; or even Peter Hammill's solo
album The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage, which has 'A Louse
is Not a Home', a great VdGG track in all but name. (OT: has
anyone got any recommendations for other PH solo albums? I love
In Camera, and Nadir's Big Chance, but wasn't very taken with
either Fool's Mate, or Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night, or
'enter k'. I haven't kept up with his career --- or much else
in music! --- since the end of the Seventies.)
laura in space
: just plain *gorgeous* music - OK, so I'm a sucker for Big Mellotron Washes
: ;-) and lovely acoustic guitar ... and I think I'm falling in love with
: John Wetton - beautiful voice, just give him some *decent lyrics* to sing!!
*ooops* - I seem to have accidentally fallen in love with Greg Lake! :-/
oh well, stranger things have happened.
: Wake...: first one that's gotten an unabashed, "Hey, I *LOVE* this!!" on
: first listen! stay tuned later today after I've heard "Devil's Triangle" ;-)
*hah*! well, this turned out to be a fairly hilarious episode:
my roommate (the hot young German one) asked for a ride to class at Harvard,
since the weather was *horrible* - *snowing* in almost-May?! somebody get me
outahere!!
on the way to the car I warned her:
"you are in for an auditorily traumatic experience."
[the other day I subjected her to Wurm full-blast]
and explained that this album comes with a warning not to play it for
elderly relatives.
she said, "how about young roommates?"
I replied, "if you think Thinking Plague is cool (!) I think you can handle
King Crimson."
so I cranked up the car and the volume, and this spooky rhythm starts ...
she said it reminded her of Ravel's Bolero (!) with the motif inverted
(goes down where Bolero goes up) - interesting observation. then it
started to build and build and then went Ka-Blaam!! and threw me back
against my seat - hands off the wheel (!) "very dramatic," sez roomie.
by the time we'd gotten to the Square we were clearly in the kill-yer-grandma
part, since she was yelling, "BYE! THANKS FOR THE RIDE!!"
umm, I *like* it!! could maybe even love it?? puts me in a completely
*different* mood ... ! ;-)
: well there you have it ... my Crimson indoctrination, as it happens!
and my roomie's as well!
laura
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laura in space
: > OK Jason, which *one* do I get? ;-)
: I dunno, any of them will do for starters, I guess.
: I will second the recommendation for Kind of Blue, though. You need to
: get that, sooner not later.
already have it and love it. likewise In a Silent Way - didn't realize that
was "proto-fusion." also have Sketches of Spain. so this is much *earlier*
Miles I'm looking at here.
laura
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laura in space
: Laura, I assume you already have 'Exile on Main Street'? If not, that one
: is a must-get.
*OH YES*. Exile is *by far* my fave Stones album. only one that hangs
together as an *album* for me; guess I mostly know the Stones through
"Hot Rocks" etc. so I think of 'em as mostly a collection of great *songs*.
maybe time to get some of the earlier full-albums, to remedy that? have
Beggars Banquet, it turns out. maybe that's enough for now.
laura
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laura in space
: laura in space <ld...@world.std.com> wrote:
: >precursor to Thurs Aft: Brian Eno Ambient 1-Music For Airports
: This is very good, but a little hard to get into. Such a minimalist
: piece might not be interesting enough to prog fans in general.
hey, if I don't think *Thursday Afternoon* is boring, I think I can handle
Airports!
laura
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: Hal Holbrook wrote:
: > Thus spake Stefan Dill:
: >
: > >Coltrane, A Love Supreme, a MUST.
well, if there's one clear consensus arising from all of your *GREAT*
recommendations (thanks, guys!!) it's that I ***MUST*** get A Love Supreme.
but I knew that. ;-)
if you're feeling more brave, add Om
: > >or Ascenscion. the 4 CD set Live In Japan, also worthy.
: >
: > There's a 2CD set called something like "the major works of John Coltrane"
: > which has both versions of Ascension, Om, and a couple other lengthy pieces
: > from '65. Still, I'd say go backwards rather than forwards first- Blue Train,
: > for instance!
: Impulse! is reissuing Ascension, Kulu Se Mama, and several other late Coltrane
: albums in early June; at any rate, I'd say that after A Love Supreme you should
: pick up Giant Steps & My Favorite Things.
well, OK. eventually. ;-)
Coltrane I already have:
on CD:
The Gentle Side of ...
Paris Concert
Complete Africa Brass Sessions (!!)
vinyl:
Africa Brass - wore holes in this one in college - especially for the
transcendent version of "Greensleeves" ... as my friend who turned me onto it
said, "that he could turn *that song* into the last word on being black ..."
also: "this music was meant to be listened to *in the dark*." yep!!
Monk/Trane - gorgeous! heartbreakingly beautiful rendition of "Ruby My Dear."
wanted both of those on CD; couldn't find 'em. don't like the "Complete"
Africa Brass as much; too many "alternate takes" spoil the mood!!
never listen to vinyl any more. (bumpy floor = scratched records). :-(
don't really know the CDs I have that well; feel like others might be better
to get into - Giant Steps f'rinstance. *later*!!
laura
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Steven Sullivan
: : In article <%elN4.1606$D8.1...@grover.nit.gwu.edu> sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote...
: : > Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
: : > certainly did not protest.
: : I trust you've played it all by now!
: gaah! workin on it ... just got your tape *yesterday* & Wake of Poseidon is
: now playing in the car - I am falling in love with it!! (so far) ...
: OK, *so far* - 1st side only - I'd say Wake is my *fave* KC!!! *wow*!
: just plain *gorgeous* music - OK, so I'm a sucker for Big Mellotron Washes
: ;-) and lovely acoustic guitar ... and I think I'm falling in love with
: John Wetton - beautiful voice, just give him some *decent lyrics* to sing!!
: which so far I think Wake fits the bill - suitably "mythic" ... all this on
: first listen, mind you ... and ohhh, those bass lines ... this album could
: definitely get me "in the mood" (is that what you're getting at, Mike?? ;-) )
Except..Wetton's not on Wake. Greg Lake's the singer on most of that one.
Steven Sullivan
: : Mike Dickson <mike@blackcat..demon..co..uk> wrote:
: : : In article <%elN4.1606$D8.1...@grover.nit.gwu.edu> sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote...
: : :> Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
: : :> certainly did not protest.
: : : I trust you've played it all by now!
: : Once or twice, yeah. (<--joke.)
: umm - Steve, I think Mike was talkin to me. ;-)
Doesn't look that way to me. I figured he was making a funny. Mike?
Steven Sullivan
: Thus spake Aconitum napellans:
:>>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
:>>
:> This is his "pop" project. It's also quite excellent, a lot of odd little
:>pieces with his trademark "Frippertronics", and vocal contributions from Maggie
:>and Terre Roche, Peter Hammill, Peter Gabriel and Daryl Hall. Comparable to
:>solo Gabriel in many ways.
: But also keep in mind this is ROBERT FRIPP, whose idea of "pop" is presumably
: stuff with actual discernable melodies to them instead of ambient soundscapes.
: So we have stuff like "Breathless" and "Disengage", who would be considered
: pop by, well, nobody on earth, I'd reckon.
Fripp's idea of pop is probably more like the League of
Gentlemen.
Steven Sullivan
: Thus spake Steven Sullivan:
:>Daniel Hollis <hol...@math.umn.edu> wrote:
:>
:>:>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
:>
:>: I was surprised when I heard this the first time. It's not at all like
:>: King Crimson.
:>
:>Some of it is -- notably Breathless and Haaden Two. Fripp has been
:>recycling riffs from this album ever since.
: "Matte Kudasai" is almost a straight rip from this album's "Mary", mercifully
: absent Daryl Hall (of the three singers on this album, Hall is by far the
: worst).
1) Hall doesn't sing on Mary
2) MK's bassline is more a rip from 'Chicago', which is sung by Peter
Hammill
3) Hall is brilliant on 'North Star', though again, the LP take is better
than the CD one (ou can now hear it as a bonus track on 'Sacred Songs'
4) THe main riff of 'Disengage' has been recycled into 'Vrooom'.
:>The best one, IMO -- thought again I prefere the original vocal track
:>on hte Exposure LP to the remix on the CD.
: Yes, the LP version of Exposure is superior in my book too, also for
: "Disengage", which is that much rawer, but the CD's not TERRIBLE the way, say,
: the remix of "We're Only In It For the Money" was.
Agreed-- Disengage loses some power but gains some length. The one that
really suffers badly, IMO is Breathless, where Fripp mixed his own
Frippertronics way down on the CD.
Steven Sullivan
: : just plain *gorgeous* music - OK, so I'm a sucker for Big Mellotron Washes
: : ;-) and lovely acoustic guitar ... and I think I'm falling in love with
: : John Wetton - beautiful voice, just give him some *decent lyrics* to sing!!
: *ooops* - I seem to have accidentally fallen in love with Greg Lake! :-/
: oh well, stranger things have happened.
It've very easy to cure that condition: play 'Lend Your Love to Me
Tonight' from ELP's Works I.
Aconitum napellans
>>>???? Robert Fripp Exposure
>>>
>> This is his "pop" project. It's also quite excellent, a lot of odd
>little
>>pieces with his trademark "Frippertronics", and vocal contributions from
>Maggie
>>and Terre Roche, Peter Hammill, Peter Gabriel and Daryl Hall. Comparable to
>>solo Gabriel in many ways.
>
>But also keep in mind this is ROBERT FRIPP, whose idea of "pop" is presumably
>stuff with actual discernable melodies to them instead of ambient
>soundscapes.
>So we have stuff like "Breathless" and "Disengage", who would be considered
>pop by, well, nobody on earth, I'd reckon.
That's why "pop" was in quotation marks. Not actual pop, but Fripp's
personal variation thereof.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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> p.s. oh yeah, Lizard - the only KC album I *own* (!) still
> weirded out by Jon Anderson singing "stake a lizard by the
> throat" (!!)
(Can't listen to it now, my hi-fi's broke, but:) doesn't
he then go on to sing "his kiosk and his black worm seed" ...
no, just checked the LP (I just *love* Island LP covers),
and he sings that bit earlier.
And he didn't even *write* the stuff, for once, even though
I'd say we're squarely in "shining flying purple wolfhound"
territory here! I wonder if he and Pete Sinfield used to
have conversations like that? :)
> so haven't listened to it more than a couple o times.
Definitely worth more than 2 listens!! It's one of those albums
that fills up the world when you listen to it. Uh, don't know if
that makes sense. Does to me.
laura in space
: laura in space <ld...@world.std.com> wrote:
: : Steven Sullivan (sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) wrote:
: : : Mike Dickson <mike@blackcat..demon..co..uk> wrote:
: : : : In article <%elN4.1606$D8.1...@grover.nit.gwu.edu> sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote...
: : : :> Actually, I stopped 'Starless' about two minutes into it, and you
: : : :> certainly did not protest.
: : : : I trust you've played it all by now!
: : : Once or twice, yeah. (<--joke.)
: : umm - Steve, I think Mike was talkin to me. ;-)
: Doesn't look that way to me. I figured he was making a funny. Mike?
oh - *duh*. Mike has been known to do that.
laura
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laura in space
: : *ooops* - I seem to have accidentally fallen in love with Greg Lake! :-/
: : oh well, stranger things have happened.
: It've very easy to cure that condition: play 'Lend Your Love to Me
: Tonight' from ELP's Works I.
hmm - I saw that concert, back in '7<whatever>. cured me of *ever* liking
ELP *at all*.
laura
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L. Perez
> John Coltrane Love Supreme
>any Miles experts Miles Davis Workin
>wanna help me out here? Miles Davis Cookin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Relaxin'
> Miles Davis Quintet Steamin' With
All these are w/o electric instruments just FYI they are NOT Fusion
>Al Dimeola / De Lucia,Paco / Mcloughlin,John
> Passion Grace & Fire
> Dixie Dregs Freefall
>Fleetwood Mac Mystery To Me
better than TPO
> Robert Fripp Exposure
Not bad BUT not Crimso
>Police Synchronicity
'Ghost in the Machine' is better IMO
> Jean-Luc Ponty Imaginary Voyage
All of Ponty's albums from 1975 - 1985 are must haves
>R.E.M. Green
or Document No. 5 are their best
>Sun Ra & His Arkestra Space Is The Place
I saw SunRa and had a couple of albums...he's WAAAAY OUT there
>Talking Heads Remain In Light
Their very best IMO; some of Belew's best guitar work and Bernie Worrell's Keys
too!!!
>Steve Vai Passion & Warfare
His best
>right WR to get after HW? Weather Report I Sing The Body Electric
Good as any of the eary albums; they're all exellent.
L. Perez
"Let a rotten saying not proceed from your mouth, but whatever saying is good
for building up as the need may be..."-YHWH
Henry Potts
>Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote[...]
>> : get now, or wait for remaster? King Crimson Red
>>
>> S&BB is better.
>
>Wait for the remasters. Coming soon. [...]
Some of Fripp's previous remastering choices have been questionable.
There's nothing sonically wrong with _Red_, so I'd be happy to recommend
the current version (although Steve's point holds). It will be
interesting to hear what Fripp does with the album, but I don't see any
reason to assume he'll make it better.
--
Henry
laura in space
Eva Cassidy: Songbird
John Coltrane: Love Supreme
Miles Davis: Cookin'
Dixie Dregs: Freefall
Brian Eno: Ambient 1-Music For Airports
Bela Fleck: Tales From The Acoustic Planet
Fleetwood Mac: Then Play On
Kevin Gilbert: Thud
Bob Marley & Wailers: Live
Joni Mitchell: Clouds
Van Der Graaf Generator: Least We Can Do Is Wave To Eac
Van Der Graaf Generator: H To He Who Am The Only One
many thanks for all your help.
laura
--
Master of Time, setting sail over all our lands ...
Henry Potts
>> _Tokyo Tapes_ album, which is a recording of a one-shot gig in Tokyo
>> a band made up of Hackett, John Wetton on vox/bass,
>> and frequent Hackett band member Julian Colbeck on keys.
>
>who was also a member of the ABWH/Union cast of thousands.
Colbeck toured as second keyboardist with ABWH, but wasn't on any studio
material -- Matt Clifford was the other keyboardist on _ABWH_ and every
session musician in California plays on _Union_, but not Colbeck.
--
Henry
Henry Potts
>he...@bondegezou.demon.co.ukREMOVETOEMAIL wrote
>> It will be interesting to hear what Fripp does with the album, but I
>> don't see any reason to assume he'll make it better.
>
>re-releases of the first four King Crimson albums?
They perhaps had more sonic problems in the first place? Otherwise, I
refer you to comments in this thread concerning what Fripp did to
_Exposure_ for the downside to his 'remastering'.
--
Henry
sdavmor
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> In article <RWcVKIAN...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk>
he...@bondegezou.demon.co.ukREMOVETOEMAIL wrote...
>
> > It will be interesting to hear what Fripp does with the album, but I
> > don't see any reason to assume he'll make it better.
>
> You mean aside from the stunning job that has been done with the 24 bit
> re-releases of the first four King Crimson albums?
>
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Amen to that, Brother, though the Wetton/Bruford period albums already
sounded better to me than the earlier ones did, so the difference this
time out might be less. But if they have the same kind of super packaging
as the 4 recent remasters, then they'll be on the must get list.
--
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