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Z

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:32:55 AM11/10/09
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That drum beat that opens up harpua is just sick. Can any drummer
explain what it is (time-signature, etc) something like 6/4?

Z

Scrappy

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:02:46 AM11/10/09
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It's in 7. Very rare for a rock tune. Also, if you listen to the
version on 12-6-96 with Larry and Les from Primus, you'll notice it
sounds different, since they play it in 4.

SteveO

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:13:11 PM11/10/09
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> It's in 7. Very rare for a rock tune.

Guyute is mostly in 7/4, as is much of Estimated Prophet. Not
doubting the rarity, just pointing out a few others.

A good tune in an odd time is hardly detectable through casual
listening. Dave Brubeck? Those are tunes for people that can't play
in odd times. . .

Check out some Zappa scores. An eye-opening score is Stravinsky's
Four Etudes for Orchestra, specifically Madrid (fourth etude). Every
few bars the time changes. Casual listening, you'd never know, but
read the score and re-evaluate life.

-Steve O.

DaManfred Mann

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:35:52 PM11/10/09
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Well done Steve, I'm pulling that out for a spin now. Thanks.

Dave

SteveO

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:21:46 PM11/11/09
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> Well done Steve, I'm pulling that out for a spin now.  Thanks.
>
> Dave

Which one!?!

phreeeeeeek

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:48:13 PM11/12/09
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I love interesting time signatures. Pink Floyd Money is 7/4. Phish has
several songs with unusual timing. The behemoth is YEM - it has so
many time signatures it's just nuts. 3/4, 4/4, 7/4... there's a few
parts where I don't even know what the time signature would be called
(like around 4:30 on junta... in relation to the rest of the song it's
7/16, but in all my years of reading music, I've never seen that. So
maybe it would be notated as 7/8 with twice the tempo???).

A few others I can mention - Every fourth measure in the SOAM jam is
9/8. Piper is a typical 4/4, but different because the heavy downbeats
are every 3 measures. Faht bounces around between 4/4 to 3/4 and
something else I can't figure out. What about Loving Cup? gimee one
drink - do we say that's a throw-in 1/4 or is it a 5/4? Does
Lengthwise have a time signature?

In the 99 albums mashup video that was played at 8, they added an
extra beat to Rush's Tom Sawyer (that part of the song is in 7/8) so
that it would fit with the 4/4 mix (http://vimeo.com/7355745).

RobUK

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Nov 15, 2009, 12:12:20 PM11/15/09
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If you like a bit of extreme music and odd time signatures and
shifting tempos try Dillinger Escape Plan, Meshuggah, Protest The Hero
to name but 3. Especially Meshuggah.

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