Who sings Chalkdust on Picture of Nectar?
TheBiscut
Unable to choose a tape to listen to last night, I put on A Picture Of
Nectar. When it got to Chalk Dust Torture, I didn't at all recognize the
voice singing. It's definately not Trey or Page or Fish, but it could be
Mike. I'm not sure I've ever heard Mike sing lead on a song.
Peace,
TheBiscut
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Matthew Grillo
TheBiscut (oso...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Unable to choose a tape to listen to last night, I put on A Picture Of
: voice singing. It's definately not Trey or Page or Fish, but it could be
As the legend goes the vocals on the Nectar "Chalkdust" are Trey's. The reason
that you do not recognise his voice is due to the tank of Nitrous Oxide he is
inhaling in the studio. I'm serious. I don't know that this is a fact, but it
is and has been the official explanation around these parts for four years. If
you go back and listen to it you will agree that it sounds like Trey's voice
but deeper. It is *NOT* the Dude of Life.
: Mike. I'm not sure I've ever heard Mike sing lead on a song.
You've never heard Mike sing a lead?
MATT
Joshua N Shear
TheBiscut (oso...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Unable to choose a tape to listen to last night, I put on A Picture Of
: Nectar. When it got to Chalk Dust Torture, I didn't at all recognize the
: voice singing. It's definately not Trey or Page or Fish, but it could be
: Peace,
: TheBiscut
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: *"The wonderful thing about tiggers
: *Is tiggers are wonderful things
: *Their tops are mado outta rubber
: *their bottoms are bade out of springs!
: *They're bouncy, ouncy, flouncy, pouncy
: *fun fun fun fun fun,
: *But the most wonderful thing about tiggers
: *is I'm the only one.
: *I'm.... the only one!"
: *-Tigger
: *******************************************
I like the sig file...
Last time I saw a live Chalkdust, Page sang it. It could
be him on the album. As for not having heard Mike sing a leade, try
Mike's Groove or some takes of Sleeping Monkey.
josh
Ryan P. Sullivan
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>Unable to choose a tape to listen to last night, I put on A Picture Of
>Nectar. When it got to Chalk Dust Torture, I didn't at all recognize the
>voice singing. It's definately not Trey or Page or Fish, but it could be
>Mike. I'm not sure I've ever heard Mike sing lead on a song.
It's definitely Trey, but with some type of voice alternator.
Ryan
Andrew T Croke
In article <31800B...@ix.netcom.com>,
TheBiscut <oso...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Unable to choose a tape to listen to last night, I put on A Picture Of
>Nectar. When it got to Chalk Dust Torture, I didn't at all recognize the
>voice singing. It's definately not Trey or Page or Fish, but it could be
>Mike. I'm not sure I've ever heard Mike sing lead on a song.
Yes!
It's the return of my second favorite thread of all time, after
"Fishman's Penis."
Drew
(the "It's like Deja Vu all over again" penis)
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"I think Drew is the LAMEST of all the regulars. He doesn't know jack shit
about Phish. At least, he doesn't post anything good. . . .I can't stand
him. He's an immature babbling idiot. All he used to do is make fun of
other netters." -AJ, in a particularly mature post (cut for 4 lines)
David Klein
it sounds to me like trey's voice through a megaphone.
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Mike Weitman
Jorge_C...@brown.edu (Jorge_Casimiro) wrote:
>Trey always sings Chalkdust. That is him on the album, but I think they
>fucked with his voice somehow (like Page on Lawn Boy).
Lawn Boy(the song) was slowed down, for some? reason, on the album Lawn
Boy, That is why Page's voice sounds funny. I also noticed the
strangeness of Trey's voice on Chalkdust, and cannot quite explain it.
It sounds like it's been slowed down, and it is definitely Trey's voice.
But, if they slowed down his voice, how come they didn't slow down the
rest of the song, because then it would change key, and the song is in
the same key live as in the studio. Yes, I know, that's possible to do
in the studio, but why? The nitrous theory sounds pretty good to me,
whether you want to admit or not. But, hey, it's only a rumor...
Mike
mwei...@bu.edu
Jorge_Casimiro
RBrennan
O.K., here goes my explanation:
How many of you people remember the Police video "Wrapped Around Your
Finger"? If you recall, the band was "singing" and moving in perfect slow
motion time to the correctly timed song.
Here's a little studio recording tip:
Imagine recording the instrumental tracks for Chalkdust at the proper
speed. Now the studio engineer simply speeds up the pitch of the
instrumental tracks on playback while Trey records a hyper-fast vocal to
the fast instrumental playback. Then, the studio engineer slows down
Trey's hyper-fast vocal track to match the correct speed of the song and
PRESTO, we have the instrumentation at the proper speed and a rather deep
sounding Trey vocal. I'm really surprised this recording trick would
cause such confusion.
-RB
Steve
At the National Guitar Summer Workshop in July 1993, I had the good
fortune to be in a group of people asking Trey questions. Someone asked
him the question you've been wondering about (who was it singing
Chalkdust Torture on Picture of Nectar), and he said it was he. He said
(now, this could be a joke, but I don't think so) that he had just woken
up and sort of stumbled into the studio and sang it, and it just
came out like it is on the album. (Anyone who thinks that's not feasible
should realize that it is not at all difficult to make your voice sound
deeper or more gravelly, especially when you're half asleep - I know my
voice sounds almost completely different just before I go to sleep and
just after I wake up). Hope that helps...
Sattelite9
just an added note to JB (I think that's who put the last post on) and his
right on explanation of the voice "mystery". You don't have to go back as
far as that Police video for an example of the concept. At least 25% of
all videos made use some sort of reduced/increased speed playback for that
effect. You just don't know it, but you do notice something "cool" going
on, which is, of course, the idea behind using it in the first place.
I remember when the single first came out and how shocked everyone I knew
was at the voice style decision. It might be informative for you to
listen to some interviews from the period between the single's release and
the albulm's release (or I may actually be remembering wrong and they may
have come out together, but I am almost positive not) to hear Trey's
official take on all this.
I just have to also add a note about everyone that said they didn't know
any songs Mike sang lead that obviously they had a complete brain shutdown
when they wrote that. I feel bad for them, maybe they were the one using
the nitrous tank too much.
And who thought Page sang chalkdust!? Page is the one behind the
keyboard, Trey is the one on the guitar. Got it?
James F. Ruberto
Try this (if you have the means) Play the song back sped up a hair
(about 1 1/2 steps). Trey's voice sounds completely normal, while
the rest of the band sounds like the chipmunks. Sounds like the
vocal track was recorded with the tape "pitched up" so when it is
played back at normal speed, you get the slow, deeper quality that
is on the album. But maybe Trey just woke up.
Jim
PVP9847
when we recorded trey's vocal for chalkdust we sped the multitrack tape up
a bunch so when played back at regular speed his voice is much lower and
deeper - we also recorded it through page's leslie cabinet - a rotating
speaker that gives it a kinda fast swirly sound - and mixed that in with
the "straight" microphone - i also put some weird pitch shifted repeating
effect on his vocal
and there you have it
was a great experience workin with them on nectar and rift - had a lotta
fun - especially nectar
Adam Schneider
| Last time I saw a live Chalkdust, Page sang it. It could
|be him on the album. As for not having heard Mike sing a leade, try
|Mike's Groove or some takes of Sleeping Monkey.
|
| josh
What???? Page singing Chalkdust??? Mike singing Sleeping Monkey????
When??? Where??? How??? Who??? Trey sings Chalkdust on the CD. His
voice is electronically altered. I never really found it hard to tell who
sings it, it's charcteristically Trey, just the pitch is changed.
Now let's lighten things up with some phishy trivia...
Who is The Dude of Life?
a) Tom Marshall
b) Jim Pollock
c) A guy shorter than Tom Marshall, but looks like Steve Pollak
d) A mystery to all
e) none of the above
f) a wild and crazy dude
WATSIYEM?
Band vs. Crew? Who won?
Who is she?
I'm bored,
Adam Schneider
jamie lutch
Adam Schneider <SCHN...@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu> wrote:
>| Last time I saw a live Chalkdust, Page sang it.
what kind of drugs were you on, and where can I get some??
Dave Powell
>Who is The Dude of Life?
>a) Tom Marshall
>b) Jim Pollock
>c) A guy shorter than Tom Marshall, but looks like Steve Pollak
>d) A mystery to all
>e) none of the above
>f) a wild and crazy dude
e) - none of the above. The Dude of Life, as has been patiently
explained to me, by Trey, is actually Mike's half brother, Danny
Bonaducci (no relation).
>WATSIYEM?
The funny thing about this is that the question is actually its own
answer. That is what they are saying.
>Who is she?
Bobbi Flekman - she's with the record company.
BAUER, ALAN
Somebody wrote in and said they heard Trey at the Guitar Summer
Workshop say he fell out of bed and went and recorded it. Obviously
a man of humor, Trey. People are generally aware that Trey is a big
Zappahead. Most Zappahead's know that, even as early as '65 Zappa
CONSTANTLY fucked around with tape speed to get different sounds from
his voice, others voices' and instrumental sounds. This is what Trey
did on Chalkdust. You speed the song up slightly and record the
vocal track singing at that speed. Then, you slow both (song and
vocal) tracks down at the same momentum to where the song is at
original tempo and *voila* instant "new voice"! Pretty neat.
-Zappafreak.
scott burrows
Doesn't it seem logical that Trey could just be singing with a deep
voice? I highly doubt that they came up with some elaborate studio
effect to make this song... listen to it again.
Scott
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Chris Wicklein
jamie lutch (jlu...@garnet.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: Adam Schneider <SCHN...@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu> wrote:
: >| Last time I saw a live Chalkdust, Page sang it.
This is an often confused point. In truth, the studio Chalkdust
is sung by Yert (Trey's evil twin with the deep voice) who to this day is
still locked up at White Crow Studios, leaving Trey to sing Chalkdust
during shows. I'm sure this is in the FAQ (which is available at
ftp://www.phish.net I believe.)
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