HORDE 96 lineup
Bethie SUNY
Black Crowes there made the festival for me. I do agree that having
bands that are very newly commercial, on the tour is bothersome,
Especially when they have their own tour. As a native of Rochester NY, I
have seen rusted root since they were a little band that attracted a
small crowd to the local bars. Now they are on MTV. The first year they
were on the HORDE it was exciting, but if they were on it now I wouldn't
want to go. (except for the fact that I normally would pay $22 for a
ticket now to see them alone, and a ticket for $20 to see 5/6 bands play
(one of them being rusted root) is definitely worth it).
I am wondering about the festival in Binghamton. I attend
Binghamton University and am stuck here this summer. When and where is
this festival?
thanks
Beth
On 8 Mar 1996, Allan Abrams wrote:
> phish...@aol.com (PhishrmanP) wrote:
>
> |Whatever happened to the whole purpose of HORDE? The purpose was to
> |expose the listners to new and upcoming music. "Blues Traveller, Dave
> |Matthews Band, Rusted Root, Lenny Kravitz and Natalie Merchant." These
> |are all very reputable acts. I hope this is not the final lineup for >the
> |tour because it has been becoming *way* too comercial letely. HORDE
> |should be a springboard for acts. Once a band reaches a popularity >like
> |DMB has they should move away from HORDE. I can understand BT being on >it
> |because it's their show, but why DMB again. Don't get me wrong, I love
> |DMB, but this will be their 3rd year on the tour! What HORDE should be >is
> |a headliner with all the upcoming acts like Yolk, Ominous Seapods, >moe.,
> |and other similar acts. They're the ones that need the exposure and
> |exposure is the whole purpose of HORDE. Comments? Peace.
> | -Pete
>
> I have been thinking the same thing and agree with you 100%. However, last
> year the Allmans headlined. They're a huge, well known act. And guess who I
> heard is headlining Lollapalooza this year? Metallica! Can't get much more
> commerical than that. If you ask me, I'd rather see Metallica than any of
> the above HORDE bands. And you notice something all this year's bands have
> in common. They're all MTV darlings. Both the HORDE and Lollapalooza have
> turned into mainstream events. It's no big deal. That's the music business.
> Phish are now superstars, so anything is possible and you should not be
> surprised by this turn of events. I can handle it. Because, there are
> plenty of smaller festivals springing up across the country. Someone
> recently posted about a good one in North Carolina. I think it was called
> the Home Grown Music Festival or something. Anyways, as we get deeper into
> Spring, you will hear about many smaller festivals with camping and lots of
> young bands. Also, go to some bluegrass festivals. These are always a HUGE
> party similar to Woodstock. I go to one called the Rooney Festival near
> Binghamton every year. This is the best party I have ever seen in my life.
> It is craaaazy. Drinking, drugs, rowdiness, fireworks, sex and all that
> other good stuff are ENCOURAGED from the stage. They want you to go nuts.
> Last year they had Leftover Salmon and Hypnotic Clambake to name a few. One
> year they had Vassar Clemins from Garcia's Old and In the Way.
>
> In my opinion this looks like the most boring HORDE ever. Without getting
> into details, I really don't care for ANY of these bands. Well, I do like
> Yolk, moe., and the Seapods. But they're not on the HORDE tour. Actually,
> they usually use the second stage for upcoming acts like these. These young
> bands are always on tour, playing bars and clubs around the country. We
> don't need to see them at HORDE. Just go see them at the bars. And, many of
> these will participate in the smaller festivals anyway.
>
> proudly not going to this year's HORDE,
> AJ
>
>
>
Mark Choh
SUNY <bd2...@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu> wrote:
> I have attended HORDE for the past two years. I must say having the
> Black Crowes there made the festival for me. I do agree that having
> bands that are very newly commercial, on the tour is bothersome,
> Especially when they have their own tour. As a native of Rochester NY, I
> have seen rusted root since they were a little band that attracted a
> small crowd to the local bars. Now they are on MTV. The first year they
> were on the HORDE it was exciting, but if they were on it now I wouldn't
> want to go. (except for the fact that I normally would pay $22 for a
> ticket now to see them alone, and a ticket for $20 to see 5/6 bands play
> (one of them being rusted root) is definitely worth it).
> I am wondering about the festival in Binghamton. I attend
> Binghamton University and am stuck here this summer. When and where is
> this festival?
> thanks
> Beth
>
I'm not to going to blow off seeing a good band just because they've
become big. If you enjoy hearing Rusted Root, then don't not go just
because they're "newly commercial." It's about the music, not how much it
sells or not. Granted, the scene won't be as cozy as it may have been
back when they were played at small clubs and bars. But still, they're a
great band, so go see them.
I think the purpose of HORDE is to expose listeners to different kinds of
music, not just necessarily new and upcoming. What are the chances of a
Natalie Merchant fan going to see a Lenny Kravitz concert? or a Kravitz
fan going to see Rusted Root? They're very different types of music.
Same with Lollapalooza. I saw the show two years ago and it was great. It
was the first time I heard George Clinton and P-Funk, and believe me, I'm
a huge Parliament fan now. It's not that Parliament was up and coming, I
just hadn't had the chance to see them.
Louis Nagel
Choh) wrote:
)>I think the purpose of HORDE is to expose listeners to different
)>kinds of music, not just necessarily new and upcoming. What are the
)>chances of a Natalie Merchant fan going to see a Lenny Kravitz
)>concert? or a Kravitz fan going to see Rusted Root? They're very
)>different types of music. Same with Lollapalooza. I saw the show two
)>years ago and it was great. It was the first time I heard George
)>Clinton and P-Funk, and believe me, I'm a huge Parliament fan now.
)>It's not that Parliament was up and coming, I just hadn't had the
)>chance to see them.
actually if you visit a local record store, you can walk down on aisle
and pick up a Natalie Merchant CD, then sidestep, sidestep, and
there's a Lenny Kravitz CD. My point being: the HORDE (ready for the
cliche'?) "back in the old days" was a festival for lesser known
bands, bands without recording contracts. Although the bands were not
the same, they were all from the same genre (WSP, BT, Phish, etc).
While Moe. and the Omnious Seapods are still "out of the mainstream"
or un-MTVed bands, the most recent HORDE tours are just another forum
for well-known artists these days. oh well, as long as people have
fun at them....
Louis
Jon Ingram
for years. Im just not looking foward to the crowd this horde is gonna
attract. Id like to see god street wine and maybe splintered sunlight
included instead of kravitz and merchant-oh well any rumored tour dates
for horde yet?-Jon
Budke
>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:06:18 -0500, mc...@emerald.tufts.edu (Mark
> Choh) wrote:
>
> actually if you visit a local record store, you can walk down on aisle
> and pick up a Natalie Merchant CD, then sidestep, sidestep, and
> there's a Lenny Kravitz CD. My point being: the HORDE (ready for the
> cliche'?) "back in the old days" was a festival for lesser known
> bands, bands without recording contracts. Although the bands were not
> the same, they were all from the same genre (WSP, BT, Phish, etc).
Well, why not check a few facts. All of the bands on HORDE I had
contracts. The ability to find them in a store may not have been as
much of a piece of cake as it is now, the Docs were on Epic (I think)
BT on A&M, Phish on Elektra, Panic and ARU on Capricorn the
next year it was largely the same as far as signed goes.
[hell I'm impressed I remember which label they were all on]
With the addition of the Sample and BHT (two groups I personally could
do without ever seeing again) there were two groups that were getting
plenty of college and alternative (before it was as mainstream) radio in
atleast the east coast. That tour lost money, so they put some bigger
names on it the next year with the Allmans (they had to put on a big
name or promoters wouldn't book the show) Now they have BT who could be
the big name, but why not add another as insurance. Lenny Kravitz is
not playing huge halls anymore. He was just at Roseland and I don't
believe it sold out. He's probably trying to give his career a push
again. Merchant is only on for a few shows as is the DMB.
Now we have Root (who I place in the same boat as the Samples and BHT)
and one more band on the main stage and 4 on the 2nd stage assuming the
same format. Other than my personal choice of bands, I don't see how
this differs much from the past two years.
Care to explain.
Steffen Keating
about $$$. They want people to come.(And they will)
Media sucks, Eh?
gordon sharpless
Natalie Merchant in a taper friendly environment... this should be
interesting.