Sunshine Daydream Grand Reopening Sale!
Atl Bob
Atl Bob
Jeff Zapko
He openly insults Phish fans on their own newsgroup, and then has the nerve to
continue spamming that same group. What a fucking joke you are, SD.
Jeff
Sunshine Daydream 847-299-2622
minded then my comments were not directed to you.(however....)
i have a lot of friends who like phish and i do not think they r simple minded.
in fact , they get a kick out of all the banter between our shop and phans on
the net.
not everyone shares your righteous thoughts about tix or boots and not
everyone thinks they have been deputized by phish to be the phish police..
BTW we do not sell boots at all period. we have not sold boot cd's in a couple
of years and WE NEVER sold tapes. we always had a FREE taping library.
the boot thing is getting kind of old. nothing new for you to slam me on??? you
know, i once stole candy from a store when i was like 8 or 9. r u gonna diss me
on that too? (Oh no!, you are a phish deputy not a candy store cop.
tickets? yes we have sold tix before and we will in the future. so what? if and
when phish comes back, we will have choice seats for sale. and we will probably
have a free raffle for a pair in our store too. tickets is just another
buisness that is based on the laws of supply and demand. i have debated this
before and am tired of it. if you dont like me selling tix, then don't buy them
from me.
many of my store customers are also tix customers of mine. some of my store
customers have supplied me with tix that i sell. they make some money , i make
some money, its all good.
SPAM? this is not some get rich scheme or sex ad. some people who read this ng,
might actually be interested in a deadhead shop in there area that carries cd's
by their favorite bands and clotes and stuff. especially since there are not
too many of us left.
have u ever even been in my shop???
have a nice day.
Sunshine Daydream - 2027 E. Euclid Ave. Mt. Prospect, IL - 847-299-2622
www.sunshinedaydreamshop.com
purveyors of candles,CD's,hemp products,
jewelry,incense,posters,stickers,t-shirts, tobacco accessories, & other kind
trippy things.
Jeff Zapko
declare that you would never sell Phish merchandise again after you were forced
to shut down your taping library?
Yeah, you did. Guess you were too cowardly to stick by your words.
You tool. Everyone here, and at the SCI ng knows who you are and knows that you
are a jerk. Keep trying to stick up for yourself, and I'm sure you will fool
one or two people. There is not a single other person that pops into this group
so infrequently, and yet still manages to be remembered as such a jackass by so
many people.
Jeff
Jeff Zapko
.
<<<<You want me to say it, I will. "I AM SCALPING PHISH TIX". I am
not the least bit worried. I will also be scalping Phish tix for their fall
tour too. I dont like Phish, nor what they are all about or how they represent
themselves, so I have no qualms about SCALPING PHISH TIX. My store is not a
phish head store, so if i anger a few phishheads, then oh well, thats the cost
of doing business.>>>>
There is so so so much more, but really, isn't this enough to get a good idea
of this guy's character?
Jeff
xlucasx
news:20020401152911...@mb-mv.aol.com:
> SPAM? this is not some get rich scheme or sex ad. some people who read
> this ng, might actually be interested in a deadhead shop in there area
> that carries cd's by their favorite bands and clotes and stuff.
finally, a place where i can buy clotes. my search is over! ;^)
xlucasx
Sunshine Daydream 847-299-2622
time and you spend it on line, waiting forme to post, dissing on me, digging
up quotes, etc. etc.
i spend my time on the computer cause it helps me make a living.
whats your excuse???
xlucasx
ignoring any moral judgments, you must be the single worst businessperson
i have ever seen in my life. how do you stay in business? oh yeah, by
ripping people off...my bad.
xlucasx
Jeff Zapko
It's B&P day, and I am on here responding to the roughly 15 people I have taken
on today.
Is that good enough for you?
Jeff
xlucasx
news:20020401183018...@mb-fq.aol.com:
helping people get shows without expecting to make a profit off of it? i
doubt he's down with that.
xlucasx
Sunshine Daydream
HELPING PEOPLE OUT.
HUH?
Sunshine Daydream
2027 E. Euclid Ave.
Mt. Prospect, IL 60056
847-299-2622
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BoMaGoSh Yndit
sender?" It got all his other spew. I like that "grand reopening"
business -- ran the first one into the ground, did you, scumbag?
Dee_Snuts
possible off tickets, that's WHAT YOU DO, so DONT SAY "this isn't some
get rich scheme". I can pretty much guarantee that you make a larger
profit margin selling tickets (if not phish right not, then umph's, or
bisco, or whatever you hear is a cool band now) than selling candles
and patchouli and stickers & t-shirts.
I called one time during phish tour to just speak to someone, and
asked why i should buy tickets from you instead of just finding
someone on RMP who had extras, or even go thru a ticket broker. You
(or whomever i spoke to) were a rude fuckwad who couldn't explain
anythign other than ask whay i cared. I have bought tickets thru a
broker for a LOT less money than you wanted.
Selling tickets for bonnaroo yet? I bet you won't sell them for less
than $200 + a $14.50 "Convenience charge". Sunshine Daydream....i
daydream of the day when you stop this ridiculous practice, no matter
how legal you say it is.
BTW, how much are you selling the new Trey CD for? I wouldn't be
surprised if you were selling the advanced/promo/napster copies
available on the internet, you inconsiderate nutsack.
sunsh...@aol.com (Sunshine Daydream 847-299-2622) wrote in message news:<20020401152911...@mb-mv.aol.com>...
Dee_Snuts
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Sunshine Daydream 847-299-2622
away (thats FREE, no charge for you simple minds) a Trey promo sampler CD and
we may be giving away a free poster with each new Trey CD.
thats what we are doing with the new trey CD.
as for bonnaroo....great sounding fest and i am sure i will enjoy it when i go,
but i really have no interest in selling those tix. the face is too high.
have a nice day
Sunshine Daydream 847-299-2622
xlucasx
> I think we will be charging $13.99 for the new Trey CD. We will also
> be giving away (thats FREE, no charge for you simple minds) a Trey
> promo sampler CD and we may be giving away a free poster with each new
> Trey CD.
>
> thats what we are doing with the new trey CD.
ooooh. you're giving away the promo shit that the record company or
distributor gave to you for free? wow, such a kind heart!
i killfiled you already and it seems to have not worked, so...
PLONK!
off you go, with all the other fucking spammers!
xlucasx
sbboy14
read this ng,
might actually be interested in a deadhead shop in there area that
carries cd's
by their favorite bands and clotes and stuff. especially since there
are not
too many of us left.
>>have u ever even been in my shop???
I do not see how your posts help you make a living. I live within ten
miles of your store and have never been there BECAUSE of your posts to
RMP. Whether or not you've got a cool store and are really a nice guy
once people get to know you really doesn't matter when you come off as
a jerk in your posts.
I don't doubt that you have plenty of loyal customers; I just doubt
that you are getting them for posting on RMP. Also, the vast majority
of RMP and any other NGs you post to don't live in the Chicagoland
area. Why don't you just stick to your spots on XRT's GD hour?
People can't tell what an ass you are on those commercials and you can
take advantage of a much more direct marketing campaign. (sure NGs
are free but, as I stated earlier, I think you might be doing more
harm than good for your business).
>>i can't help but roll on the floor and laugh my ass off. you have
so much free
time and you spend it on line, waiting forme to post, dissing on me,
digging
up quotes, etc. etc.
>>i spend my time on the computer cause it helps me make a living.
>>whats your excuse???
I noticed a post regarding the sale of the 2000 summer tour on CD.
Since this post was made on 4/1, I'm thinking that it might be a joke.
This, of course, is coming after you flamed somebody from RMP for
wasting time online dissing you while you post in order to promote
your business. How is an April Fool's post about selling live CDs
going to promote your business??? (Especially with your current
reputation on RMP?)
Then again, maybe the summer 2000 CD thing wasn't a joke, in which
case your credibility as a businessman goes even further down the
tubes.
Either way, I think my main objective of this post rings true: you
are hurting your business more than helping it by posting to NGs.
Even if you do it just to ruffle the feathers of the non-Chicago folks
on RMP (people who wouldn't be going to your store anyway) I really
do think you're losing potential customers along the way. Peace :)
Jason
PS You can save the “I don’t need your advice on how to
run my business” replies, but if you have anything else to say
to me I’d more than happy to listen/read. Thanks!
Yitt
Why are so many of you folks so worried about what OTHER people do?
You and I may not buy tickets from brokers, but who cares if someone
ELSE does?
These same types of debates occur all the time in the Phish poster
community. Apparently lots of people out there think there is
something fundamentally wrong with making money. That's fine - we're
all entitled to our opinions - but let's examine the "anti-capitalist
Phish fan" phenomenon a little more closely in light of the practices
of a certain band called... Phish.
First - no doubt Phish makes MILLIONS of dollars annually through
ticket sales and merchandise on Dry Goods. I trust we can all accept
as a given that the Phish organization itself is a profit-driven
capitalistic enterprise. The band members themselves apparently have
no problem making money, nor with the concept of making money.
Fine, you say. "They're Phish - THEY are entitled to make money off
Phish, but this Sunshine Daydream guy is not." Fair enough. But...
what if it turned out that Phish employed unethical business practices
while the Sunshine Daydream guy is an honest businessman? What then?
(Disclaimer - I don't know the Sunshine Daydream guy - I see him as
just the latest example of the "evil greedy capitalist" being attacked
by the self-proclaimed Phish Police).
Let us consider Phish's business practices. If you think inflating
prices is "wrong," then how can the $150 ticket price for Big Cypress
be justified? Trust me when I say that Big Cypress was not a
break-even proposition for the band.
Next - a subject that gets me ALL fired up - the way Phish handles its
posters. I give you the following two examples: 1) Trey Winter Tour
2001 posters, and 2) Live Phish 1-6 Pollock posters.
1) Two "limited edition" posters were sold for Trey's winter tour -
purple and green. They cost $30 each at the shows - the same price as
they charged for Jim Pollock's hand-pulled linoleum block prints at
various previous Phish shows (posters which now sell for hundreds of
dollars thanks to "evil capitalists"). The Trey posters were not
hand-pulled, though - they were letter-press. Each poster was marked
"Edition of 750". Thus, there were 1500 total prints, right? (750
purple, 750 green).
Wrong.
See, as soon as they ran out of prints, Phish just decided to print
ANOTHER 1500 posters and sell them with the marking "2nd Edition of
750". (Whether this was all set up in advance is conspiracy theory
fodder, and beyond the scope of this post).
2) Next example - Phish prints 1000 "limited edition" Live Phish Vol.
1-6 Pollock prints (though again these are mass-produced prints - not
the linoleum block prints Pollock is famous for). They sell for $35
each through Dry Goods. They sell out within a week. NO PROBLEM!!
They simply print 1000 more and call it another "Second Edition"!!!
Now... someone please attempt to explain to me how the two posters
described above can be described as anything other than a RIP OFF, by
the band Phish, of their own best fans. The band (through its
merchandising organization) simply LIED to all of us about these
posters for the sole purpose of making as much money as possible. How
many people would have paid $35 for a $5 poster if it was not a
limited edition?
Now back around to my point... If it does not offend me that Phish is
capitalistic, why should it offend me that anyone else is
capitalistic? I am personally MUCH more offended about Phish ripping
people off than I am about random dudes around the nation ripping
people off. At least if some guy is trying to sell me a ticket at a
ridiculous price, I always have the wonderful option of NOT BUYING IT.
As long as the Sunshine Daydream guy tells people the TRUTH in all
his business dealings, I'd say he's doing quite a bit better than our
favorite band.
Yitt
Cleeetus Gazebo
Phish is selling their own intellectual property. SSD & others are not.
xlucasx
news:9369e24a.02040...@posting.google.com:
> I'll just briefly interrupt this hate-fest to ask a simple question:
>
> Why are so many of you folks so worried about what OTHER people do?
i worry about what other people do when it can infringe on my ability to
do what i want to do (i.e. tape shows and trade tapes of shows, have an
opportunity to get decent tickets without scalpers hording them).
> You and I may not buy tickets from brokers, but who cares if someone
> ELSE does?
because more support for scalpers (i call em as i see em) means that
scalpers will continue to prey on the live scene by hording tickets, thus
leading to quicker sellouts and more people having to resort to a
scalper. think of it this way: if one scalper buys a ticket for a show
for the purpose of reselling it, and one person gets shut out because the
show just sold out, they have to go to the scalper and pay his premium to
get that ticket. if the scalper hadn't bought that ticket, the person
would have gotten the last ticket available, and would only be
complaining about paying ticketmaster charges.
> These same types of debates occur all the time in the Phish poster
> community. Apparently lots of people out there think there is
> something fundamentally wrong with making money. That's fine - we're
> all entitled to our opinions - but let's examine the "anti-capitalist
> Phish fan" phenomenon a little more closely in light of the practices
> of a certain band called... Phish.
>
> First - no doubt Phish makes MILLIONS of dollars annually through
> ticket sales and merchandise on Dry Goods.
i don't think phish is making as much now on ticket sales as they were
when phish was touring. sure, trey is bringing in money, but that's it
(i don't think vida blue is making enough to cause much stir).
> I trust we can all accept
> as a given that the Phish organization itself is a profit-driven
> capitalistic enterprise. The band members themselves apparently have
> no problem making money, nor with the concept of making money.
not entirely true. if all they cared about was profit, they would not
have hired their friends and fans to work for them. they would have
gotten the slick business types who would make them the most money
possible. instead, they hire their friends and fans. (this is not to
say that the people working for phish are incompetent.)
> Fine, you say. "They're Phish - THEY are entitled to make money off
> Phish, but this Sunshine Daydream guy is not." Fair enough. But...
> what if it turned out that Phish employed unethical business practices
> while the Sunshine Daydream guy is an honest businessman? What then?
well, that isn't the case, so why argue about it? (i get more than
enough hypotheticals in law school, thank you.) as far as i can tell,
the tool at sunshine daydream is being unethical, and phish is the honest
businessman. and let's remember, ethics are subjective.
> (Disclaimer - I don't know the Sunshine Daydream guy - I see him as
> just the latest example of the "evil greedy capitalist" being attacked
> by the self-proclaimed Phish Police).
he's not being attacked simply because he wants to make money. he's
being attacked because of how he chooses to go about doing it. do i
think making money, in and of itself, is wrong? absolutely not. do i
think that making money by ripping people off (scalping) is wrong?
maybe.
>
> Let us consider Phish's business practices. If you think inflating
> prices is "wrong," then how can the $150 ticket price for Big Cypress
> be justified? Trust me when I say that Big Cypress was not a
> break-even proposition for the band.
what are you basing this on? do you have any credible data/facts to back
this up? think of the logistics of doing what phish did. they had to
construct roads, contract for water supply, porta-potties, crews. they
had to lease the land from the tribe. i'm sure they had to buy permits
from the state and/or county. did phish make money off of big cypress?
i'd honestly be surprised if they even made a small amount of profit off
of it. also, let's look at the ticket price from a subjective
perspective: was the ticket worth $150 to me? abso-fuckin-lutely. would
i have paid more through a scalper? no. would i have paid more through
phish? yes.
>
> Next - a subject that gets me ALL fired up - the way Phish handles its
> posters. I give you the following two examples: 1) Trey Winter Tour
> 2001 posters, and 2) Live Phish 1-6 Pollock posters.
>
> 1) Two "limited edition" posters were sold for Trey's winter tour -
> purple and green. They cost $30 each at the shows - the same price as
> they charged for Jim Pollock's hand-pulled linoleum block prints at
> various previous Phish shows (posters which now sell for hundreds of
> dollars thanks to "evil capitalists"). The Trey posters were not
> hand-pulled, though - they were letter-press. Each poster was marked
> "Edition of 750". Thus, there were 1500 total prints, right? (750
> purple, 750 green).
>
> Wrong.
>
> See, as soon as they ran out of prints, Phish just decided to print
> ANOTHER 1500 posters and sell them with the marking "2nd Edition of
> 750". (Whether this was all set up in advance is conspiracy theory
> fodder, and beyond the scope of this post).
but that doesn't change the fact that the first edition is still the
first edition. it's like a book: subsequent editions may be published,
and they may be identical to the first edition, but it's the first
edition that is the most valuable.
printing a second edition does not change the fact that the first edition
prints will always be the *first addition*.
>
> 2) Next example - Phish prints 1000 "limited edition" Live Phish Vol.
> 1-6 Pollock prints (though again these are mass-produced prints - not
> the linoleum block prints Pollock is famous for).
so maybe jim pollock doesn't want to hand-print thousands of phish
posters for the rest of his life. maybe he'd rather work on other
products? it's not like they're passing off the mass-produced prints as
hand-prints.
> They sell for $35
> each through Dry Goods. They sell out within a week. NO PROBLEM!!
> They simply print 1000 more and call it another "Second Edition"!!!
and? again, this doesn't change the fact that the first edition will
always be the first edition, and the second addition will always be the
second addition.
>
> Now... someone please attempt to explain to me how the two posters
> described above can be described as anything other than a RIP OFF, by
> the band Phish, of their own best fans.
i don't think it's a ripoff. see the above discussion. also, aren't
most people buying the posters because they like to look at them? if so,
who gives a fuck if the poster was one of 5 or one of 100,000?
> The band (through its
> merchandising organization) simply LIED to all of us about these
> posters for the sole purpose of making as much money as possible. How
> many people would have paid $35 for a $5 poster if it was not a
> limited edition?
why is it only worth $5, as you imply? do you take into account the fact
that there are people who buy these posters for their aesthetic value,
and not just as an investment? to them the poster might be worth $35 no
matter how many were printed.
>
> Now back around to my point... If it does not offend me that Phish is
> capitalistic, why should it offend me that anyone else is
> capitalistic?
being capitalistic does not automatically mean being immoral.
> I am personally MUCH more offended about Phish ripping
> people off than I am about random dudes around the nation ripping
> people off. At least if some guy is trying to sell me a ticket at a
> ridiculous price, I always have the wonderful option of NOT BUYING IT.
but what if that's the only source for the ticket? then your options are
to buy it or to not go to the event. that's not very fair, now is it?
> As long as the Sunshine Daydream guy tells people the TRUTH in all
> his business dealings, I'd say he's doing quite a bit better than our
> favorite band.
whether either of them tells the truth *all the time* could be debated
all day. let's not forget one of the main reason people here dislike the
sunshine dildo: he spams the ng and insults us. at least phish isn't
insulting me.
xlucasx
BoMaGoSh Yndit
> Now back around to my point... If it does not offend me that Phish is
> capitalistic, why should it offend me that anyone else is
> capitalistic? I am personally MUCH more offended about Phish ripping
> people off than I am about random dudes around the nation ripping
> people off. At least if some guy is trying to sell me a ticket at a
> ridiculous price, I always have the wonderful option of NOT BUYING IT.
> As long as the Sunshine Daydream guy tells people the TRUTH in all
> his business dealings, I'd say he's doing quite a bit better than our
> favorite band.
>
So why don't you stop buying phish posters? Are you buying these as
an investment? If so, I think you'll find that there are a lot of
better places to put your money. I personally have never bought a
phish poster, mainly because the thing I like about Phish is the
music, not the poster art. It's hard for me to believe that Phish is
being accused of ripping off their fans because they decide to print
another edition of a $35 poster -- especially since, as you mentioned,
it's not being produced as an art print. How many people buy these
posters just because they're "limited editions?" And of course,
Cleeetus is right -- the Scumslime guy makes his living as a
non-creative parasite, while Phish is actually creating art and music
and beauty.
I'd say that you should definitely STOP listening to Phish because
they've ripped you off, dude -- it's time for you to find a band that
when they say they're doing a limited edition print they really mean
it!!
Yitt
> > prices is "wrong," then how can the $150 ticket price for Big Cypress
> > be justified? Trust me when I say that Big Cypress was not a
> > break-even proposition for the band.
>
> what are you basing this on? do you have any credible data/facts to back
> this up? think of the logistics of doing what phish did. they had to
> construct roads, contract for water supply, porta-potties, crews. they
> had to lease the land from the tribe. i'm sure they had to buy permits
> from the state and/or county. did phish make money off of big cypress?
> i'd honestly be surprised if they even made a small amount of profit off
> of it.
The rest of your post is sensible and well thought-out. Perhaps I can
persuade you that the portion quoted above is not realistic.
Up-front, I admit I do not have access to Phish's books, nor have I
seen a list of their expenses from Big Cypress. However, let us
consider these numbers... 70,000 tickets (I think a conservative
estimate) at $150 per ticket equals $10.5 million dollars. Even if we
assume all the items you listed above cost $1 million each (which I
think it wildly excessive, especially for porta-potties), it only adds
up to $6 million. We're also not including Phish's profit from
merchandise, which continues to this day.
Hey - I admit I'm just guessing about Big Cypress. I assume you're
guessing, too. My guess is that they made at LEAST several million
dollars on the deal, possibly more than $10 million. I understand
your guess is different. Fair enough. :)
> > See, as soon as they ran out of prints, Phish just decided to print
> > ANOTHER 1500 posters and sell them with the marking "2nd Edition of
> > 750". (Whether this was all set up in advance is conspiracy theory
> > fodder, and beyond the scope of this post).
>
> but that doesn't change the fact that the first edition is still the
> first edition. it's like a book: subsequent editions may be published,
> and they may be identical to the first edition, but it's the first
> edition that is the most valuable.
Well, that's the argument. My problem with this has nothing to do
with the subsequent value of the poster. My problem has to do with
the PRICE charged by Phish for a "limited edition" that really isn't a
limited edition. Imagine you bought a Ferrari for $100,000 but later
found out it was really just a Pontiac Fiero with fiberglass ground
effects, worth about $25,000. Further imagine that when you
complained to the seller, he just responded, "Hey, it's still
valuable." Buyer and seller can agree on a "fair" price only when the
buyer has accurate information about what he's buying. If you haven't
already, you will learn all about corporate financial reporting
requirements in law school. Same deal - if you don't misrepresent
what you're selling, I can fairly decide whether I like your price.
(Another poster in this thread asks whether I buy posters as an
investment - the answer is no. He also implied that it is impossible
to enjoy Phish's music AND poster art. I disagree. He suggested I
stop listening to Phish. I decline.)
> i don't think it's a ripoff. see the above discussion. also, aren't
> most people buying the posters because they like to look at them? if so,
> who gives a fuck if the poster was one of 5 or one of 100,000?
I'll tell who gives a fuck. Phish does! Why? Because they can
charge $35 for a limited edition Pollock and sell out while charging
$3 for Clifford Ball "Clown" poster and sitting on stacks of them.
If they don't want to make limited editions - fine - don't make
limited editions. Just PLEASE don't call something a limited edition
when it's not. Both Phish and you have constructed elaborate
justifications of their shady poster practices (you forgot the "second
editions let more people enjoy the art" argument), which baffles me
because I see it as a simple matter of telling the truth versus
telling a lie.
> why is it only worth $5, as you imply? do you take into account the fact
> that there are people who buy these posters for their aesthetic value,
> and not just as an investment? to them the poster might be worth $35 no
> matter how many were printed.
"Might" is the operative word in your last sentence. That's the whole
point - people should be able to DECIDE how much the poster is worth
based on knowing TRUTHFUL information about it.
I think you and others have made excellent points. As you might
imagine, the "fake limited editions" issue is just something that gets
me riled up (riled up enough to register and post in this thread). I
don't know anything about the Sunshine Daydream dude, and maybe he's a
tool. But I've seen here, and in many other contexts, Phish fans
dogging on someone for having the audacity to make profits. I
apologize if this thread was not the appropriate place to make my
point.
In my mind, concert tickets are very similar to limited edition
posters. They exist in a finite supply greatly exceeded by the
demand. You talk about people who are "shut out" of shows because of
ticket brokers - but what about the people who GET IN to shows because
of ticket brokers? Are those people less "deserving"? I know a lot
of people think so, but I disagree.
dig under rocks
"Yitt" <sjd...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Phishbill
it seems to only draw criticism from phans and derisive, sneering comments from
SD in return. This somehow promotes your business?! The overriding vibe that
seems to permeate your posts seems to be: "I like the Dead/Phish sucks/I like
making money off both even if i cross a line now and then/Especially if i'm
making money off Phish and their snot-nosed followers"..etc. I mean, come on,
that whole Waldo thing with u posting up for them had nothing to do with free
expression and everything to do with profit motive, only i don't remember
anybody being really straight up about THAT. I guess it was a path of lesser
resistance to try and recruit some poor mindless fucktards with too much time
on their hands to march around Burlington waving idiotic signs around as free
publicity and business promo under the guise of free expression. As far as
Phish's "scorched earth" legal strategy, that was almost as idiotic. But 2
wrongs never make a right, and as i said then it isn't like it was about some
kid selling a few shirts on lot to defray the expenses of following the band he
or she loves around on tour. Fans of Phish and the Dead alike are too
intelligent not to pick up on something like this..so do what u do, be what u
are..but don't piss down someone's back and tell em it's raining. Flame away, i
fully expect it based on all your responses to other posts here.
bill
"They were all standing up waving their hands," Taylor said."It was like they
were all dancing at the same time. They were dressed in '60s-style clothes.
They called each other 'dude' and 'man'."