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Cosi Fan Tutte: good recording??

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Prince Davis

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone could direct me to an excellent recording of
this opera. Is the London recording with Solti conducting the Chamber
Orchestra of Europe any good?

Thanks,

Prince
pri...@leland.stanford.edu


Jeremy Berman

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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In <5dgv8h$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU> pri...@leland.stanford.edu (Prince

Jeremy writes: I don't know the Solti, but I can recommend the classic
1956 Karajan performance on EMI. Apart from having the excellent
Mozartians Leopold Simoneau & Elisabeth Schwarzkopf topping the cast,
Lisa Otto is an absolute scream as Despina.

Daniel F. Tritter

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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If I had only one reason to own the 1956 recording, it would be the
incomparably beautiful Dorabella of Nan Merriman, a great, great artist
who sang little opera, and of whom we have too little recorded legacy.
There was at least one man who shared my view. His name was Arturo
Toscanini.


dft

Tom Moran

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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pri...@leland.stanford.edu writes:

>Hello,

>I was just wondering if anyone could direct me to an excellent
>recording of this opera. Is the London recording with Solti conducting

>the Chamber Orchestra of Europe any good?

I have the Solti, and it's okay -- I don't know that I'd call it
excellent.

If I were to recommend one recording, it would be Colin Davis' on Philips
with Caballe and Baker. Second would be the classic Karajan recording
from the 50s on EMI.

Then the Bohm from the early 60s. Then the Fritz Busch Glyndebourne
recording from the 30s -- but only if you don't mind something that's
transferred off old 78s.

Cosi has been recorded a lot in the last ten years, but aside from the
Solti I'm unfamiliar with those recordings.

Get the Davis.

Tom Moran


ker...@ibm.net

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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In <5dgv8h$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, pri...@leland.stanford.edu (Prince Davis) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I was just wondering if anyone could direct me to an excellent recording of
>this opera. Is the London recording with Solti conducting the Chamber
>Orchestra of Europe any good?

I too am waiting for comments on the new Solti _Cosi_. I kind of like the
Price/Troyanos/Leinsdorf recording on RCA. It has minimal notes, however.

Michael Kerpan
Stone Mountain, GA
ker...@ibm.net

Craig Werner

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Feb 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/9/97
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pri...@leland.stanford.edu (Prince Davis) writes:
>I was just wondering if anyone could direct me to an excellent recording of
>this opera.

For sheer vocal beauty and outstanding Mozart singing, and, for me, a
fine sense of the ironic comedy in the score, the EMI Boehm recording
with Schwartzkopf, Ludwig, Kraus, Tadei is first-rate. If you like your
Mozart fast and furious, this one isn't for you; but for those of us who
hear music slower, and who love wallowing in legato vocal lines, this
recording is fabulous.

Another excellent choice is the Klemperer, which features a remarkable
Margaret Price as Fiordiligi. It also features the slowest "Un aur'
amorosa" I have ever heard, sung by Luigi Alva; and he holds it
together. :-)

Craig Werner <wer...@world.std.com>

Derek Parker

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Feb 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/9/97
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> pri...@leland.stanford.edu (Prince Davis) writes:
> >I was just wondering if anyone could direct me to an excellent recording of
> >this opera.

Hear hear to the Colin Davis recording, with the immortal Baker!
Derek.

WClayTex

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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>Prince--the best Cosi
Bill Replies: the absolute tops: Karajan, Simoneau, Schwarzkopf,
Merriman, Panerai, Bruscantini, 1954 EMICHS 7 69635 2
Bill Clayton

John Soward Bayne

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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Probably not your only Cosi if you can just have
one, but the recording in English from the Met
with (let's see how well my memory is working
on a Monday) Steber, Roberta Peters, Richard
Tucker et al. is fun. With the American accents
and a lively translation you can get the jokes
without knowing Italian.

Viktor A Lundberg

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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I have five versions of the opera (Solti 2, Karajan, Boehm with Casa,
Gardiner and Kuijken). None of these are perfect but probably my
favorite is the Karajan because of the undescribable beauty of the
singing. Schwarzkopf is MUCH better her than on the later Boehm set. The
rest of the cast is also outstanding. Something about the other
versions: For me Solti has the best conducting but I don't like the cast
very much. I only got the Boemh with Lisa della Casa because I'm a huge
fan of her. The rest of the performance is also good without being
outstanding. I got the Gardiner because I bought the whole box of Mozart
operas he made and I don't find this performance really interesting in
vocal terms though I like Gardiner's way with the opera a lot. The
Kuijken is for me the best if you want period style. The really
interesting part in this performance is that he uses a harpsicord not
only in the recitatives but in most of the arias and ensembles as well.
Vocally speaking this is for me with the exeption of the Ferrando the
best cast of the moderns.....

But the Karajan rules supreme and will always be the version I will
return to most often though I might be woth mentioning that Karajan cuts
some of the recitative and Ferrando's second aria and a duet for the two
men in the first act. This set is at midprice(I think) and comes
complete with a libretto so get the Karajan or if you want period style
get the Kuijken.....


Best wishes:

Viktor A Lundberg

Héctor García Salas

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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I wholeheartedly recommend Karl Böhm's with Elizabeth Schwarzkopf
and Alfredo Krauss. I do not if it has been reedited in CD format
since the one I have is on vynil. Also, in video, there is a
version with excellent new singers directed by Hanoncourt which I
have found quite interesting and appealing. Also, I would not
recommend any Peter Sellars version of a Mozart Opera (Cosí,
Giovanni, Nozze).

hgs

--
hgs

Steven Martin

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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Has anyone heard the Colin Davis recording with Janet Baker on the
Phillips label? Would you reccomend it?

Steve M.(NOVA)

Gilles Cazelais

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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In article <5dsuai$k...@clarknet.clark.net>,

Steven Martin <to...@clark.net> wrote:
>Has anyone heard the Colin Davis recording with Janet Baker on the
>Phillips label? Would you reccomend it?
>
I have this recording and I think it is very good. But I have not heard a
lot of recording of Cosi so I can't really compare it to other recording.
Janet Baker is a superb Dorabella in this recording.

--
Gilles Cazelais


Graham Sanders

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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Steven Martin wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard the Colin Davis recording with Janet Baker on the
> Phillips label? Would you reccomend it?
>
> Steve M.(NOVA)


OK, not great. (His Flute is better).
Solti, ferocious, committed. But don't want to hear it too often.
Unbeatable: John Eliot Gardiner......... as with all the later Mozarts.
DG Archiv. Don't delay. Buy today.

WClayTex

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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John his right about the Met's English Cosi. I heard it when it was
originally broadcast but never got a recording. They also did a Boheme,
but English never caught on.
Bill

John Lynch

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Feb 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/15/97
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Many other newsgroups have (FAQ) files that are posted one a month or so
for the benefit of newcomers. It strikes me that "What is a good
recording of Cosi fan tutte?" is the most frequently asked question on
this newsgroup and that the Boehm recording with Schwarzkopf on EMI is
the most frequently recommended. Y'think we should just post this fact
on the first Sunday of each month?
--
John Lynch

jly...@ma.ultranet.com
jly...@fas.harvard.edu

Larisa Migachyov

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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Steven Martin (to...@clark.net) wrote:
: Has anyone heard the Colin Davis recording with Janet Baker on the
: Phillips label? Would you reccomend it?

Yes, definitely. I liked Janet Baker as Dorabella, and I *loved*
Montserrat Caballe as Fiordiligi. It's a great recording.

Larisa

Lorenzo Nencini

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Feb 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/19/97
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In article <199702092...@zetnet.co.uk>, Derek Parker <parke...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Hear hear to the Colin Davis recording, with the immortal Baker!
>Derek.
>

And also the immortal CABALLE'!!!!

"..per pietą ben mio perdona..."


Lore
>

Selig sind

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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I have heard it....not the best recording of the opera...the best I've
heard is conducted by Arnold Oerstman.......it's very quick paced(fast
tempi) and lively...wonderful singing...performed on period
instruments....That's the recording I own....in fact...his recordings of
Figaro, Don Giovanni, and Die Zauberflote are the best...

ELCHNASE

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Feb 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/28/97
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The Cosi recording that one should listen to is the Telarc--that's right,
tacky old Telarc, the label that made Erich Kunzel famous.
It is with that mean old man, Sir Charles McC. with a wonderful cast of
singers.
Give it a listen.
And just ignore the nasty old man conducting. He is a great musical
genius. When he is off the podium we just have to lock him up in a box and
let him out only when the opera house is open.
Elch...@aol.com
Elchnase

Terrymelin

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Mar 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/4/97
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Mackerras' otherwise wonderful recording of Cosi is marred by the
overwrought singing of Jerry Hadley who should keep his hands off Mozart.
Go for the Solti which has a terrific Frank Lopardo or the Bohm which has
the incomparable Alfredo Kraus.

Terry Ellsworth

ker...@ibm.net

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Mar 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/6/97
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Has anyone heard the new recording of _Cosi_ conducted by
Simon Rattle? Any comments?

WClayTex

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Mar 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/17/97
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>>good Cosi?
A splendid one is the Karajan with Schwarzkopf and Simoneau on EMI
Bill Clayton

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