Corelli´s lisping Romeo
Jan Arell
I have just listened through, for the first time, Gounod愀 ROMEO et
JULIETTE in the EMI recording with Corelli and Freni under Lombard.
Beautiful music, just beautiful.
B U T: I don愒 think I will ever listen to that recording again. Hearing
Franco Corelli愀 lousy diction and, worse, his lisp is as embarrasing as
watching a figure-skater falling over and over again.
I have one other recording with Corelli, the second Callas NORMA, and I
can愒 remember having heard the same lisp there.
Was this something that developed late in his career? Or couldn愒 he get
any other appointments with his dentist than between takes?
And which recording should I get instead?
Jan Arell
Hsuande
Michael Black
Hsuande wrote:
There's only one recording to have, and that's the 1947 Met broadcast
with Jussi and Sayao.
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f...@corelli.com
On Fri, 11 Jul 97 19:14:57 EST, jan....@gp.se (Jan Arell) wrote:
>snip
>
>Jan Arell
Only two recordings featuring Corelli, Jan?
Shame on you.
I don't hear a 'lisp' on this recording, but it must be kept in mind
that French was not Franco's native tongue. His Don Jose is wonderful
- Carmen in French, though I do have a live version when he sings it
in Italian.
Even Bjorling liked to sing in his own tongue.
paolo
Michael Black wrote:
>
> There's only one recording to have, and that's the 1947 Met broadcast
> with Jussi and Sayao.
>
There's more than one recording to have. I have a performance with a
younger Richard Leech and Faith Esham, that is delicious!
Paolo.
MykahllC
>I have just listened through, for the first time, Gounod愀 ROMEO et
>JULIETTE in the EMI recording with Corelli and Freni under Lombard.
>Beautiful music, just beautiful.
>B U T: I don愒 think I will ever listen to that recording again. Hearing
>Franco Corelli愀 lousy diction and, worse, his lisp is as embarrasing as
>watching a figure-skater falling over and over again.
>I have one other recording with Corelli, the second Callas NORMA, and I
>can愒 remember having heard the same lisp there.
>Was this something that developed late in his career? Or couldn愒 he get
>any other appointments with his dentist than between takes?
I have a recording of Correli singing 'Recondita armonia' with Orchestra
dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any other
singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
impediments?
Michael Craig
myka...@aol.com
Michael Craig USDA Zone 7, Washington D.C.
Email: Myka...@aol.com
Ed Boxer
In article <19970714062...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
myka...@aol.com (MykahllC) writes:
>I have a recording of Correli singing 'Recondita armonia' with Orchestra
>dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
>Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any
other
>singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
>impediments?
>
>Michael Craig
>myka...@aol.com
Ghiaurov - had, and still has, a great career. His lisp is present in
almost every recording.
Ed "Boxer" Jones
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J L
On 14 Jul 1997 06:25:51 GMT, myka...@aol.com (MykahllC) wrote:
>I have a recording of Correli singing 'Recondita armonia' with Orchestra
>dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
>Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any other
>singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
>impediments?
>
>Michael Craig
>myka...@aol.com
>
>
>Michael Craig USDA Zone 7, Washington D.C.
>Email: Myka...@aol.com
The best Corelli lisp MUST be his magnificent
CELESTE AIDA on his complete recording with Birgit Nillson,
but who the hell cares???
There is no-one alive today who can vocalise that aria more perfectly
He is equal to all Verdi's demands, listen to the magnificent
diminuendo on the final Bflat.
Speech impedements shouldn't detract from otherwise vocally and
dramaticaly magnificent performances.
Sylvia Sass can't say a proper R
Ewa Poddles lisps
Vesselina Kasarova lisps too
JKrauss
On 14 Jul 1997 06:25:51 GMT, myka...@aol.com (MykahllC) wrote:
>I have a recording of Correli singing 'Recondita armonia' with Orchestra
>dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
>Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any
other
>singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
>impediments?
>
>Michael Craig
>myka...@aol.com
Bergonzi--he doesn't lisp exactly, but he pronounces the "s" sound as "sh"
(i.e. celeshte aida)
James Krauss
jkr...@aol.com
g.f.
In article <19970714062...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
MykahllC <myka...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>I have a recording of Correli singing 'Recondita armonia' with Orchestra
>dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
>Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any other
>singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
>impediments?
>
Sass had a lisp that would put Corelli to shame. I'm sort of fond
of her Elvira, but it sounds like Sylvester the Cat when she starts
singing, "In quali ekTHeTHi, o numi!" I imagine there are plenty
more. Corelli's never bothered me. With that voice, who cares.
I guess you could say that one of the great voices of the century
was marred by a speech impediment...namely occasional failure to
produce any consonants whatsoever. But again, if you're Dame Joan,
most people won't suggest you see a speech therapist :)
il Doge
JKrauss wrote:
>
> On 14 Jul 1997 06:25:51 GMT, myka...@aol.com (MykahllC) wrote:
>
> >I have a recording of Correli singing 'Recondita armonia' with Orchestra
> >dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
> >Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any
> other
> >singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
> >impediments?
> >
> >myka...@aol.com
>
> Bergonzi--he doesn't lisp exactly, but he pronounces the "s" sound as "sh"
> (i.e. celeshte aida)
>
> James Krauss
> jkr...@aol.com
--
In some of the Italian "dialects" the impure 's' (that is,
's' followed by another consonant) is indeed pronounced this
way. This is not necessarily indicative of a lisp. The
Neapolitan song Marechiare begins "Quanno sponta la luna..."
and sponta is correctly pronounced (in Neapolitan dialect)
as "shponta."
mdc...@ix.netcom.com
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:02:26 -0400, il Doge <ad...@fiorito.asil>
wrote:
Some years ago I was present when Mr. Correli was debating the use of
this very "dialect" with the Italian wife of a famous Met basso...I
believe this lisp is intentional......
MDC
Mitchell Kaufman
Ed Boxer <edb...@aol.com> wrote:
> In article <19970714062...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
> myka...@aol.com (MykahllC) writes:
>
> >I have a recording of Correli singing 'Recondita armonia' with Orchestra
> >dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
> >Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any
> other
> >singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
> >impediments?
> >
> >Michael Craig
> >myka...@aol.com
>
> Ghiaurov - had, and still has, a great career. His lisp is present in
> almost every recording.
> Ed "Boxer" Jones
And di Stefano whistles his S's. Of course, this could have been a
dental impediment rather than a speech impediment. ;-)
--
Mitchell Kaufman
jh...@idt.net
Claud H. Shirley III
mdc...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:02:26 -0400, il Doge <ad...@fiorito.asil>
> wrote:
>
> >JKrauss wrote:
> >>
> >> On 14 Jul 1997 06:25:51 GMT, myka...@aol.com (MykahllC) wrote:
> >>
> >> >dell'Accademia di Santa Cecilia, Roma conducted by Lorin Maazel on a
> >> >Golden Opera Gala, and his lisp is quite distracting. Are there any
> >> other
> >> >singers who've had a successful career in spite of their speech
> >> >impediments?
> >> >
> >> >Michael Craig
> >> >myka...@aol.com
> >>
> >> (i.e. celeshte aida)
> >>
> >> James Krauss
> >> jkr...@aol.com
> >
> >--
> >
> >In some of the Italian "dialects" the impure 's' (that is,
> >'s' followed by another consonant) is indeed pronounced this
> >way. This is not necessarily indicative of a lisp. The
> >Neapolitan song Marechiare begins "Quanno sponta la luna..."
> >and sponta is correctly pronounced (in Neapolitan dialect)
> >as "shponta."
>
> Some years ago I was present when Mr. Correli was debating the use of
> this very "dialect" with the Italian wife of a famous Met basso...I
> believe this lisp is intentional......
> MDC
I believe you are right.
J L
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:25:36 -0400, "Claud H. Shirley III"
<chsiii@negia.
>> >
>> >In some of the Italian "dialects" the impure 's' (that is,
>> >'s' followed by another consonant) is indeed pronounced this
>> >way. This is not necessarily indicative of a lisp. The
>> >Neapolitan song Marechiare begins "Quanno sponta la luna..."
>> >and sponta is correctly pronounced (in Neapolitan dialect)
>> >as "shponta."
>>
>> Some years ago I was present when Mr. Correli was debating the use of
>> this very "dialect" with the Italian wife of a famous Met basso...I
>> believe this lisp is intentional......
>> MDC
>
>I believe you are right.
I beg to differ.
The recitative leading into CELESTE AIDA reads:
"Se quel guerrier
Io fossi! se il mio sogno
Si avverasse!............"
Corelli lisps deliciously thruought this aria!
JL
il Doge
After reading this, I played my recording of Corelli/Nillson
Aida and was shocked to hear it. I had never noticed it
before and I've listened to a LOT of Corelli recordings.
I have never heard Corelli live. Is this "lisp" audible in
the house?
--
Dal
jfu...@unix.asb.com
thpeak for yourthelf
In article <33cbfdcf...@news.idt.net>, f...@corelli.com wrote:
> snip
>
> listen to Tom Brokaw sometime, or Art Buchwald, or yourselves for that
> matter on a tape recording or camcorder. . .
>
> guess what, we all lisp!!!
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