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Rick Giuly

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Jan 19, 2004, 12:38:46 AM1/19/04
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In Tomb Raider 2 Cradle of Life. There's a scene where Lara is practicing
fighting a guy with a pole. A pretty opera plays in the background as the
scene is opening. What is the name of the opera? I've been trying to figure
out the name of the opera for more than a year when I heard it on public TV
on a nature show.

-Rick


Mark D Lew

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Jan 19, 2004, 2:06:54 AM1/19/04
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In article <bufptc$km4$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>, Rick Giuly
<rgi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'm guessing that few if any in this forum have heard "Tomb Raider 2
Cradle of Life". (Me, I'm not even sure what it is. A movie?) You'd
probably have better luck asking about the nature show.

In any case, if you want someone to identify the tune, you'll have to
give us better hints than that. What does it sound like? People here
can identify just about any opera excerpt that has been recorded, but
we can't read your mind.

mdl

Capa0848

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Jan 19, 2004, 8:04:21 AM1/19/04
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>Subject: Re: Name of opera in tomb raider2
>From: Mark D Lew mark...@earthlink.net
>Date: 1/18/2004 11:06 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <180120042306522378%mark...@earthlink.net>

>
>In article <bufptc$km4$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>, Rick Giuly
><rgi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> In Tomb Raider 2 Cradle of Life. There's a scene where Lara is practicing
>> fighting a guy with a pole. A pretty opera plays in the background as the
>> scene is opening. What is the name of the opera? I've been trying to figure
>> out the name of the opera for more than a year when I heard it on public TV
>> on a nature show.
>
>I'm guessing that few if any in this forum have heard "Tomb Raider 2
>Cradle of Life". (Me, I'm not even sure what it is. A movie?)

Angelina Jolie plays Lara Kroft, the voluptuous heir to the mantle of Indiana
Jones (an archaeological type in Raiders of the Lost Ark). A female James Bond
type.

The character of Lara grew out a video game popular, for obvious reasons (sex
and violence) with teenage boys.

Have not seen TR II; but TR I was a cinematic classic -- as long as you turned
the sound off. Ms Jolie has excellent, um, cinematography.

Pat

>


"Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe"

H G Wells "The Outline of History"

comes...@hotmail.com

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Jan 19, 2004, 10:21:02 AM1/19/04
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Rick, I haven't seen the film, but the soundtrack does list one opera
excerpt: The Flower Duet from the opera LAKME, by Delibes.
I don't know why I just didn't assume that was the right answer, without
botherig to loo it up: That is ID question # 1 here. There is
just*something* about that piece that turns on even non-opera lovers
more than just about anything I can think of. It seems to be used in any
number of movies, tv shows, etc., even comercials, and people are always
wanting to now what it is. It *is* lovely, but there's a lot of even
better music in Lakme, and in other operas. Explore a bit: you may
become delightfully hooked!

Best,
~ Roger

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Jan 19, 2004, 11:09:41 AM1/19/04
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Mark D Lew wrote:
>
> In article <bufptc$km4$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>, Rick Giuly
> <rgi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In Tomb Raider 2 Cradle of Life. There's a scene where Lara is practicing
> > fighting a guy with a pole. A pretty opera plays in the background as the
> > scene is opening. What is the name of the opera? I've been trying to figure
> > out the name of the opera for more than a year when I heard it on public TV
> > on a nature show.
>
> I'm guessing that few if any in this forum have heard "Tomb Raider 2
> Cradle of Life". (Me, I'm not even sure what it is. A movie?) You'd
> probably have better luck asking about the nature show.
>

Gee, Mark, I though *I* wasn't much up on current movies, but the "Tomb
Raider" series involves a sort of female Indiana Jones, and it's hard to
escape their "trailers" on TV, whenever there's a new one released!
(Although I've not seen any of them, yet - they haven't quite made it to
late-night TV.)

A Tsar Is Born

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Jan 19, 2004, 1:26:56 PM1/19/04
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It's become the Pachelbel Canon of non-opera-loving auditors. Inescapable
ever since those Brit Air commercials. Those of us who loved it since we
first heard the opera (and no, there isn't a lot of better music in Lakme)
are inclined to be peeved.

Hans Lick


Rick Giuly

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Jan 19, 2004, 11:49:39 PM1/19/04
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(1) thanks, that is it
(2) i watched tomb raider because my psychologist told me i didn't have
enough mainstream knowledge to hold a conversation with a normal person, not
because i thought it would be good
(3) i'm aware of the fact that there's lots of nice opera music.
(4) (to Mark) the nature show wasn't specific enough to pinpoint the song,
all i know is that a baby lame giraffe was dying because it couldn't reach
it's mothers teats and the song was playing

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Jan 19, 2004, 11:58:10 PM1/19/04
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<<no, there isn't a lot of better music [than the Flower Duet] in
Lakme>>

Bravo, Hans! Gracefully and endearingly put!
I do wish, though, that if your handing out fiats, it would be the 4
wheeled kind.

~ Roger

Mark D Lew

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Jan 20, 2004, 2:27:36 AM1/20/04
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In article <400C0145...@earthlink.net>, Divamanque
<evgmso...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Gee, Mark, I though *I* wasn't much up on current movies, but the "Tomb
> Raider" series involves a sort of female Indiana Jones, and it's hard to
> escape their "trailers" on TV, whenever there's a new one released!

I watch a lot of TV, and I've somehow managed to escape the trailers.
Of course, about 50% of what I watch is C-Span, and most of the rest is
shows that I tape to watch later, fast-forwarding through the
commercials.

I had heard of the Tomb Raider video-game, but I wasn't sure whether it
had been turned into a movie, a TV show, a cartoon, or what.

Several people have mentioned the Indiana Jones connection. Is there
an actual plotline that connects the fictional Ms Croft to the
fictional Mr Jones, or is this just a commentary on genre similarity
with no actual connection in the story.

mdl

Mark D Lew

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Jan 20, 2004, 2:30:33 AM1/20/04
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In article <QjVOb.4044$Wm4....@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>, A Tsar Is Born
<Atsarisb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's become the Pachelbel Canon of non-opera-loving auditors. Inescapable
> ever since those Brit Air commercials. Those of us who loved it since we
> first heard the opera (and no, there isn't a lot of better music in Lakme)
> are inclined to be peeved.

My first encounter with the duet was in the arty film "I've Heard the
Mermaids Singing", which I think was some time around 1988. At the
time, I knew of Lakmé by name, but I hadn't heard any of the music.

I don't think the piece was nearly such a hit then. It's rise to
celebrity is definitely a phenomenon of the past 10 or 20 years.

I think I'd have to agree that it's the best piece in the show, but I'm
also very fond of the tenor-soprano duet, the second tenor aria (*not*
"Fantaisie"), the bell song, and the lullaby.

mdl

Evi

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Jan 20, 2004, 4:01:40 AM1/20/04
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Hiya Rick, I've seen an excerpt of TR2 and can't wait for my nephew to get
it so that I can 'baby sit' while he watches it :)

If you want to see if it is the right one then listen to Track 9 at
http://uk.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2674778

Let us know if we are correct.
Evi

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comes...@hotmail.com

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Jan 20, 2004, 9:38:15 AM1/20/04
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Rick Giuly wrote:
<...my psychologist told me I didn't have enough mainstream knowledge to
hold a conversation with a normal person...>>

Well, Rick, you seem to be doing very well here!
Of course, by no stretch of the imagination could this forum be said to
be comprised of normal people ;-)!

Cheers,
Roger

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Jan 20, 2004, 11:41:00 AM1/20/04
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Rick Giuly wrote:
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> (4) (to Mark) the nature show wasn't specific enough to pinpoint the song,
> all i know is that a baby lame giraffe was dying because it couldn't reach
> it's mothers teats and the song was playing

What a weird place for the flower duet from Lakme!!!! (Obviously
whoever scored the TV show hadn't the least idea of the operatic context
of the music.) But of course, there's a car commercial that uses "Vesti
la giuba" from Pagliacci in a totally inappropriate context, too, so I
don't know why I'm surprised.

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Jan 20, 2004, 11:43:28 AM1/20/04
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Mark D Lew wrote:
>
>
> Several people have mentioned the Indiana Jones connection. Is there
> an actual plotline that connects the fictional Ms Croft to the
> fictional Mr Jones, or is this just a commentary on genre similarity
> with no actual connection in the story.

In the case of my comment, I refer merely to the genre - I've not seen
any of the "Tomb Raider" films, but it's clear from the trailers that
they belong in the same ballpark.

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