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Liesl Taylor

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Mar 20, 2001, 4:59:30 AM3/20/01
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am looking for information
on the role of the two Bridesmaids in Figaro, is this just a fancy name for
singing in a chorus, or is the some sort of ensemble work (duet, trio,
something like that) I haven't been able to get my hands on a copy of the
score, that's all, and was hoping that somebody could help me out.

Thanx
Liesl


orphee

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Mar 20, 2001, 7:14:45 AM3/20/01
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In article <3ab7...@news.connect.usq.edu.au>, "Liesl says...


Dear Liesl,

in the finale of the 3rd act of NOZZE DI FIGARO the two girls are singing
together (mostly in thirds). It's about 45 bars of music.

Orphee

Jon Davis

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Mar 20, 2001, 8:42:24 AM3/20/01
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>I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am looking for information
>on the role of the two Bridesmaids in Figaro, is this just a fancy name for
>singing in a chorus,

In the score they are simply referred to as "Peasant Girls", and the roles are
usually taken by members of the chorus. In the old Leinsdorf RCA recording,
these roles were actually sung by Roberta Peters and Rosalind Elias, but they
were billed as "Elysia Field and Appassionata Schultz".


Jon Davis
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David7Gable

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Mar 20, 2001, 8:59:36 AM3/20/01
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> In the old Leinsdorf RCA recording,
>these roles were actually sung by Roberta Peters and Rosalind Elias, but they
>were billed as "Elysia Field and Appassionata Schultz".

Cute. In Solti's recording of Schoenberg's Moses und Aron, the uncredited
voice that cries "Moses steigt vom Berg herab!" (Moses is coming down from the
mountain!) is none other than Georg Solti's.

-david gable

Matthew B. Tepper

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Mar 20, 2001, 1:33:36 PM3/20/01
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david...@aol.com (David7Gable) wrote in
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I have a set of Argo cassettes of a 1984 dramatization of "Dracula" in
which some of the smaller speaking roles are taken by Antal Dorati and
Vladimir Ashkenazy.

Haven't there been some "cute" attributions of the role of Nightwatchman in
_Meistersinger_?

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Liesl Taylor

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Mar 20, 2001, 6:06:21 PM3/20/01
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Thankyou for all your help, my university is doing this production in
English. I auditioned for the role of Barbarina, but was given the role of
Bridesmaid, as they felt that my voice was to dark to pull off the voice of
a 14/15 year old. Thus, the part was given to a second year singer, instead
of me (third year singer). Thanx for all your help everybody, now, I know
what to try and look for.

Cheers

Liesl


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MD

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Mar 20, 2001, 11:07:50 PM3/20/01
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I know the liner notes of that recording invite the listeners to "guess" who the singers are.  Do you have actual knowlege that Peters and Elias are the singers in question?  To me, they sound like Leontyne Price (who was recording Don Giovanni right at about that time with Leinsdorff) and Schwarzkopf (or de los Angeles).  Since they're intent on disguising their voices, it's difficult to tell.
What is your actual knowlege of the identities of the ladies involved?  This is not a hostile post... I really do want to know the information.

thanks,
MD

Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:14:47 AM3/21/01
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"Bridesmaids"? Are you sure you have the right opera? If
so, my guess would be yes, it's just a fancy name for a
couple of solo lines in the chorus. (But if they're willing
to pay you, don't knock it!)

Helmut Fischer

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Mar 21, 2001, 4:24:02 AM3/21/01
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Dear Liesl,

in a way you're lucky that you got the role of the peasant girl at all,
because in most productions the soprano line of this duet is sung by the
singer of Barbarina herself, and the second voice sometimes (but less often)
by Cherubino - like in Salzburg by Susan Graham.
While it certainly is not a star part it might give you satisfaction that
even Felicity Palmer and Kiri Te Kanawa have sung it!

Helmut


Jon Davis

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Mar 21, 2001, 8:41:39 AM3/21/01
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>I know the liner notes of that recording invite the listeners to "guess"
>who the singers are. Do you have actual knowlege that Peters and Elias
>are the singers in question?

I don't have the actual review in front of me, but at the time the recording
was released at least one of the reviews stated the real identities of two
singers. It's been a matter of common knowledge among opera buffs ever since.
You might check out old issues of Saturday Review or High Fidelity to find the
actual source.

I also seem to remember an interview with Roberta Peters (Met intermission
feature?) in which she stated that this was the case.

Liesl Taylor

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Mar 22, 2001, 1:50:28 AM3/22/01
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No offence, but if you'd bothered reading any of the posts correctly you
would have noticed that I said we were doing it in English, You would also
have noticed in my second posting that I am doing it through university. My
uni is the only one in Australia which does one large show of opera scenes,
and one full scale opera every single year, so if I'm a student, you would
have guessed the fact that students do not get paid.

Do I have the right opera? bah, of course I have the right opera, I'm not an
opera major for nothing! I just used the name that was given to me I now
have been informed that the role is that of Peasant girls, however in
English scores they are called Bridesmaids.

Liesl
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Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)

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Mar 24, 2001, 12:28:58 AM3/24/01
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Why so hostile, Liesl? I don't think my reply was anything
to occasion such a response! Plenty of very fine singers
have had their start singing in a professional chorus -
Marilyn Horne, for one - so I wasn't putting you down. You
asked if the "role" of bridesmaid was just a "fancy name for
singing in a chorus", and I replied that it was, more or
less. Not being clairvoyant, how was I to know you were a
student? You may have mentioned it in subsequent posts, but
not in the initial one. I replied to your FIRST post, BTW -
I had not yet read any of the replies or your other posts.
You didn't mention the language in your first post, but even
if you had, what gives you the idea that performing in
English means a student production? (ENO does EVERYTHING in
English, or used to, and they are far from "students"!)
Also, I have known of cases where students DID "get paid" -
generally for singing some necessary but minor role (like
the birdesmaids in question) because they had the ability,
and no one volunteered. (Are you opposed to being paid for
something you do well?)
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