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What happened to Wayne Newton's voice?

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Doc

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Jun 6, 2004, 10:54:34 AM6/6/04
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Wayne Newton used to have this crystal clear tenor but some time
between "Daddy Don't You Walk So Fast" and now, something happened to
it. Now he sounds like Harvey Firestein without the gay/Jewish twang.

I'm guessing he intentionally did something to "masculinize" his
voice, no doubt sick of being the brunt of jokes for years?
Unfortunately he destroyed a once fine vocal instrument in the
process. Kind of the opposite of Michael Jackson who apparently took
steps to prevent his voice from maturing.

Anyone know any details?

OmbraRecds

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Jun 6, 2004, 12:48:01 PM6/6/04
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>Wayne Newton used to have this crystal clear tenor but some time
>between "Daddy Don't You Walk So Fast" and now, something happened to
>it

>Unfortunately he destroyed a once fine vocal instrument.

Ever hear of the passing of years? How old is this dude (dudette) anyway? It
has beeen reported to me that Wayne was once a Wynona. Get my drift? This is
the story: Wayne was once a woman, reportedly a lesbian, who had a penile
imnplant and the whole works. Dyed black hair, silly little mustache, and some
deepening of the voice. From lezzy to lounge lizard in just a few months. The
results were and are terrifying. Velvet jackets, too much hair gel, and musical
mush with which to thrill his legion of polyester packaged, unfulfilled
lard-assed fans. Truly an American icon and a tribute to bad taste.

Rona Bare-Itt


Leonard Tillman

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Jun 6, 2004, 3:17:02 PM6/6/04
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>From lezzy to lounge lizard in just a few
> months..

Ah, sounds like a tentative title for the Chukey T. Boleman Story.

>The results were and are terrifying.

Funnier than fierce, really.

> Velvet jackets, too much hair gel,

Yet, not enough hair. Nor a brain beneath.

Oh, sorry - forgot about the hairs up its nose!

Leonard Tillman  

Doc

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Jun 6, 2004, 5:18:31 PM6/6/04
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"OmbraRecds" <ombra...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Ever hear of the passing of years? How old is this dude (dudette) anyway?

According to IMDB he's 62. His voice has been this way for a good 20 years
or more.

> It
> has beeen reported to me that Wayne was once a Wynona. Get my drift?

It's also "been reported" that Elvis works at K-Mart. Unless you're prepared
to provide anything remotely resembling credible source details, it's
National Enquirer level nonsense.

> This is
> the story: Wayne was once a woman, reportedly a lesbian, who had a penile
> imnplant and the whole works. Dyed black hair, silly little mustache, and
some
> deepening of the voice. From lezzy to lounge lizard in just a few months.

Except that it doesn't allow for the minor detail of a lengthy recording
career since the 50's starting as one of the "Newton Brothers" before his
current Vegas incarnation. I saw him on an old Lucy Show from the early
60's. He made a quip about his voice, but he was certainly male in
appearance, no 'stache or dyed black hair, hair plugs, velvet jackets or
1000 watt caps at that time.


Shahrdad

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Jun 6, 2004, 6:03:03 PM6/6/04
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"Doc" <docsa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Each time I hear young Wayne, I think it's Brenda Lee!!


Premiereopera

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Jun 6, 2004, 7:09:55 PM6/6/04
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>Each time I hear young Wayne, I think it's Brenda Lee!!

And evey time i hear Brenda Lee, I think it's Wayne Newton!

Ed

Leonard Tillman

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Jun 6, 2004, 8:51:55 PM6/6/04
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From: premie...@aol.com (Premiereopera)

Neil Sedaka's another of the type.

>Ed

Leonard Tillman  

OmbraRecds

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Jun 6, 2004, 9:33:45 PM6/6/04
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>>Each time I hear young Wayne, I think it's
>> Brenda Lee!!
>
>>And evey time i hear Brenda Lee, I think it's
>> Wayne Newton!

>Neil Sedaka's another of the type.
>
>>Ed
>

Hardly. Brenda Lee had and still has a phenomenal voice. She has sold an
incredible number of recordings, and does not belong with the likes of Sedaka
and Wayne Neuter!

Johnny Cashbox

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Jun 6, 2004, 11:50:20 PM6/6/04
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Doc wrote:

Who is "Wayne Newton"? Which opera companies has he sung with?

Doc

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Jun 7, 2004, 12:41:42 AM6/7/04
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Who is "Wayne Newton"? Which opera companies has he sung with?

He appears regularly at the Stardust Opera House


Bushwhacker

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Jun 7, 2004, 2:49:47 AM6/7/04
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Shahrdad wrote:


Except that she's much better.

Leonard Tillman

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Jun 7, 2004, 2:58:04 AM6/7/04
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>Who is "Wayne Newton"?

An indirect descendant of "Isaac", and a third cousin - 17 times removed
- of "Fig". They don't speak to one another too often....something about
a feud regarding their respective seating arrangments at a local
Hootenanny.

Leonard Tillman  

Steven Bornfeld

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Jun 7, 2004, 8:47:09 AM6/7/04
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Evelyn--

Strange enough seeing your name turn up in sci.med, where I'm reading
this. Just noted the cross-post.
But seeing your name on a post about Wayne Newton is beyond the pale!

Steve

>

Drakejake

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Jun 7, 2004, 9:30:36 AM6/7/04
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Wayne Newton never had much of a voice and never was much of a singer (although
he can play a number of instruments). His career in Las Vegas and his enormous
earnings as a performer are some of the enigmas of the universe. Michael
Jackson is another extremely successful singer who never had a voice. Elvis,
Tom Jones, Glenn Campbell, and other popular singers, on the other hand,
had/have fine natural instruments.

Jake Drake

Doc

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Jun 7, 2004, 2:07:21 PM6/7/04
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drak...@aol.com (Drakejake) wrote in message news:<20040607093036...@mb-m24.aol.com>...

Why how wrong you are, Newton had a fine voice, if a somewhat unusual
timbre for a male. Michael Jackson had a powerful, vibrant voice that
was oddly more manly at 10 than it is now.

I agree with you on the others, though seems odd that you like Tom
Jones etc. and not early Newton and early Jackson.

OmbraRecds

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Jun 7, 2004, 3:54:53 PM6/7/04
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>I agree with you on the others, though seems odd that you like Tom
>Jones etc. and not early Newton and early Jackson

That's not odd at all. Jones had a very powerful, natural baritone that has
survived the years and only gotten better. Neithe Newton or Jackson were ever
natural singers, but the result of studio boosting. Seen them all in person and
the only one who could really sing was Jones.

PCB

CHSIII

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Jun 7, 2004, 5:04:07 PM6/7/04
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> That's not odd at all. Jones had a very powerful, natural baritone that
has
> survived the years and only gotten better.

A baritone capable of an easy High B-flat, and on occasion notes as far up
as High D!


Doc

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Jun 7, 2004, 5:33:05 PM6/7/04
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"OmbraRecds" <ombra...@aol.com> wrote in message
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You say that as if power were the only factor. Pitch, control, musicality
are all important factors as well. No microphone will impart those qualities
to your voice. There was no such thing as "pitch fixing" in the heyday of
Newton's recording career or in Jackson's early career. Johnny Mathis wasn't
a particularly powerful singer either but once upon a time had a superb
voice.

All of them use mics when performing, and when recording, so they're all
processed in the studio to some extent.

And exactly when did you see Newton live? In the "old days" or after he
apparently intentionally trashed his vocal cords?


Andrew @ Rockface

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Jun 9, 2004, 10:08:44 AM6/9/04
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Sure you don't mean Wayne (later Jayne) County of Electric Chairs fame ;)

http://www.jaynecounty.com/

> Rona Bare-Itt

--
Andrew @ Rockface
np: Diana Krall - On The Sunny Side Of The Street
www.rockface-records.co.uk


Alton

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Jun 9, 2004, 10:43:09 AM6/9/04
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"Andrew @ Rockface" <and...@rockface-records.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Sure you don't mean Wayne (later Jayne) County of Electric Chairs fame ;)

Damn...only thing nastier than a tv/ts/drag queen is an over the hill
tv/ts/drag queen.


ianco...@dodo.com.au

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Jan 3, 2017, 10:06:09 AM1/3/17
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2016/17: Been following Wayne for some months now. Watched every video on YouTube I could find. He always comes across as a very humble man but this seems to clash with his opulent lifestyle. But I guess when you've worked as hard as he has for all those years you've earned the right to flaunt it. When he speaks, he does so with a humble heart.

The sad part is watching his videos after he turned 60 or around that time. Clearly his voice was starting to deteriorate, probably from years of relentless performing and/or perhaps from the many anesthetics and other junk pumped into him while under the knife for the many face-lifts, denture work and other things we don't know about. These things catch up on us eventually as our delicate bodies were never meant for alterations of this nature.

Like Gerry Lewis, you wonder what drives Wayne, as entertaining seems to be an addiction that entertainers can't get enough of. I watched Judy Garland's last live performance on tv. Very sad indeed. Clearly a woman racked with physical and emotional pain from years of smoking, alcohol and drug addiction, surviving solely on the accolades of the audience. Was a very sad site to watch her spent body perform, though I must say, she still had the voice.

As the review above states, if Wayne simply came out and told us that his voice is worn out, I think we would be more accepting of his fate, rather than attempting to perform the way he does now and seemingly pretend that he's still got it - which clearly he hasn't.

For those of us lucky enough to have a trade which we dearly love, retirement is usually the last thing on our mind. However, Wayne would have done himself a favor if he retired 10 years ago, leaving us with the memories of the Wayne we new, rather than the Wayne we are seeing now.

rob.t...@gmail.com

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Mar 16, 2018, 6:38:23 PM3/16/18
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I too, have been wondering why he lost his vocal ability at a very young age. If you listen to some of his interview , even his speaking voice is shaky. In his day, he was a joy to listen to.

asco...@gmail.com

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Feb 4, 2019, 9:39:34 PM2/4/19
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Wayne Newton is and always will be Mr. Las Vegas. After years of singing his heart out, because of entertaining so many people, his voice is just strained out. He is and always will be regarded as the best gentleman ever. Thank you Wayne for your dedication to your fans!

ussdix...@gmail.com

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Jan 6, 2020, 8:59:25 PM1/6/20
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GTFOH! The guy has been a guy since birth. You know what lowering his range did not hurt his career at all. I mean, he lowered his voice and became the highest paid entertainer in Vegas!
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