Arias addressed to inanimate objects?
A. Brain
but after last night's "Boheme" and hearing Colline's
aria sung to his coat, I started thinking about other
arias addressed to objects. Here's a start:
"Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
"Zauberfloete"--Tamino's aria "Dies Bildnis" sung to a picture
of Pamina.
"Hoffman"--Dappertuto's aria "Scintille Diamant"
These three at least I can picture only as being
sung directly while the singer is gazing at the object,
as in Boheme. And there are probably countless
others.
"Fidelio"--Rocco's aria to Money? It's just about
money, not addressed to money.
Leporello's "catalogue aria" is not really addressed
to the list.
Oh well, just a thought on what is a diversion from the
usual aria addressed to a loved one.
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Mark D Lew
Brain" <abr...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote:
> "Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
Sorry to nitpick, but a tree is not an inanimate object.
> These three at least I can picture only as being
> sung directly while the singer is gazing at the object,
> as in Boheme. And there are probably countless
> others.
> "Zauberfloete"--Tamino's aria "Dies Bildnis" sung to a picture
> of Pamina.
Not really an aria, but Tamino sings quite a bit to his flute as well.
> "Hoffman"--Dappertuto's aria "Scintille Diamant"
> These three at least I can picture only as being
> sung directly while the singer is gazing at the object,
> as in Boheme. And there are probably countless
> others.
Well, I don't know about "countless", but...
Wolfram in Tannhäuser sings to the evening star. (I once saw this
misspelled as "O du mein holder Abendstein", which I thought very funny.)
Laura in Gioconda also sings to a star, in "Stella di marinar".
Gounod's Roméo sings to the sun, and Dvorak's Rusalka sings to the moon.
Hamlet's aria is probably not the only drinking song addressed directly to wine.
Siebel in Faust sings to a bunch of flowers he plans to give. Anna does
likewise in Le Villi.
"Eri tu" is sung to a picture of the king, but I'm not sure if that really
counts, since he's speaking as if he's addressing the actual person.
Gounod's Sapho, prior to leaping off a cliff, addresses her lyre, though
she's just being poetic.
The bulk of Valentin's aria is directed at God, but he gets started by
talking to his medallion.
I'm not certain, but I think maybe Dinorah is singing to her shadow in
"Ombre légčre"
Is that aria from Oberon actually addressed to the ocean? I don't know. The
Dutchman also addresses the ocean directly. Is Jeanne d'Arc really
addressing the forest in "Adieu, foręts"?
> Leporello's "catalogue aria" is not really addressed
> to the list.
I believe Leporello is talking to Donna Elvira. She is the "Madamina".
Of course there is always the question of whether certain singers on stage
themselves qualify as "inanimate" objects. "Leb' wohl", for instance, might
be addressed to an inanimate Brünnhilde.
mdl
Mitchell Kaufman
> OK, this sounds like a "Texaco Opera Quiz" question,
> but after last night's "Boheme" and hearing Colline's
> aria sung to his coat, I started thinking about other
> arias addressed to objects. Here's a start:
>
> "Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
>
> "Zauberfloete"--Tamino's aria "Dies Bildnis" sung to a picture
> of Pamina.
"Salome" -- Final scene, sung to a head.
MK
HenryFogel
>From: "Mitchell Kaufman" forg...@iaint.disclosinit
>Date: 11/9/2002 8:45 AM Central Standard Time
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"Adieu notre petite table" from Manon.
"Addio fiorito asil" from Butterfly.
"Vecchia zimarra" from Boheme.
I think that this list is probably a very long one.
Henry Fogel
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Leonard Tillman
"Viva il vino spumeggiante" (though it does sparkle and shimmer..)
LT
"A person who's polite to you, but nasty to the waitress, is not a
polite person"
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Leonard Tillman
MDL wrote:
>Sorry to nitpick, but a tree is not an inanimate
> object.
Ok, a tree is "organic", but isn't it "inanimate", at least
externally, and to the naked eye?
And as part of the "still life" category, not qualifying as "animate"?
Leonard Tillman
Mike Richter
Why go so far afield?
Vecchia zimarra
A te l'estremo iddio
The bass has no hope of getting the girl, so he makes do with what he
has.
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Mark D Lew wrote:
>
> In article <gs3z9.1549$W52.107...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, "A.
> Brain" <abr...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote:
>
> > "Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
>
> Sorry to nitpick, but a tree is not an inanimate object.
>
But it isn't exactly peripatetic, either! (When did you
last see one walking about?)
Leonard Tillman
>Leonard Tillman wrote:
"Paul Robeson's "Mountain song" in the film
"King Solomon's Mines".
LT "
"A person who's polite to you, but nasty to the waitress, is not a
polite person"
---------------------------------
>Why go so far afield?
Why *not* "play the field"?
>Vecchia zimarra
>A te l'estremo iddio
Actually my first choice, when noticing this thread.
(Someone else had posted it, though..)
>The bass has no hope of getting the girl, so he
> makes do with what he has.
>Mike
His luck, when cast as Don Giovanni, is but a temporary improvement.
LT
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> Brain" <abr...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote:
>
>> "Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
>
> Sorry to nitpick, but a tree is not an inanimate object.
Well, it is if it's a prop!
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application of the word
Also, animated means at its root: Having a soul
A tree of course has no soul, if one belives in things like souls
If, however, you are an animist and believe that everything in the universe
has a soul, then of course, trees have souls and this whole thread is pretty
funny, you silly gooses
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> understood in the common, vernacular
> application of the word
>Also, animated means at its root: Having a
> soul
>A tree of course has no soul, if one belives in
> things like souls
>If, however, you are an animist and believe
> that everything in the universe has a soul,
> then of course, trees have souls and this
> whole thread is pretty funny, you silly gooses
That's "geese". As to "silly" -- "semantically interested" would be
the preferred - and better - description.
(And this group contains more than one "quacker", but not many
"honkers")
The common, vernacular applications of words matter (in practice) more
than their root-meanings, interesting though the latter are, --
regarding contemporary communications and intents therein. Some of us
tend to consider "animate", and "animation" as relating to perceptible
motion.
Of course trees do have a life-force, are biological, no less than
ourselves, - and *could* be said to have what we call a soul. At least,
no one has conclusively and indubitably proven otherwise, though it's
not likely possessing a *degree* of consciousness beyond that needed to
exist for its allotted time. Though to waste and needlessly damage a
tree, or any living being is shameful at best.
And if any trees, from the bonsai to the mightiest oaks and
redwoods, etc., in the reading audience have been offended by the
cheap, coarse sort of levity shown here, today, -- please accept my (and
I'm sure the other guilty parties will concur) heartfelt apologies.
Leonard Tillman
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Mangi il vostro cuore verso l'esterno, Morgelleh! (With earlaps,
Morgelleh!)"
Con Gusto,
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follow, but they weren't paid by Il Knowo Cheapo, and quickly fled the
auditorium....In a huff..)
Mark D Lew
tapef...@webtv.net (Leonard Tillman) wrote:
> Ok, a tree is "organic", but isn't it "inanimate", at least
> externally, and to the naked eye?
>
> And as part of the "still life" category, not qualifying as "animate"?
Hmm. I was thinking that the definition of inanimate is "not alive", not
"not moving".
Looking in my dictionary, I see that both definitions are listed.
According to definition 1a ("not endowed with life or spirit") the tree is
not an inanimate object. According to definition 1b ("lacking
consciousness or power of motion") the tree is an inanimate object. So I
guess we're both right.
According to definition 2 ("not animated or lively"), Jane Eaglen is an
inanimate object.
--
In article <bh7rsug38sok1asj2...@4ax.com>, harris
mor...@aol.com wrote:
> of course don't forget Tillman's aria to his set of benwa balls... "O
> cari balle di metallo chi mi piaciano tutte la notte..."
Benwa? Isn't he the fellow who admits to an encounter with "una quercia"?
I wonder if she was inanimate.
mdl
mdl
Capa0848
>From: "A. Brain" abr...@NOSPAMatt.net
>Date: 11/09/2002 12:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <gs3z9.1549$W52.107...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>
>
>OK, this sounds like a "Texaco Opera Quiz" question,
>but after last night's "Boheme" and hearing Colline's
>aria sung to his coat, I started thinking about other
>arias addressed to objects. Here's a start:
Does Macbeth sing to his dagger in the opera, as he does in the play "Is this a
dagger I see before me?"
"Rheingold! Rheingold!
Leuchtende lust!
"Di Quella Pira"
"Stride la vampa"
There are lots of nostalgic/geographic arias, too,
"La Provenza del mar"
"Ai nostri monti"
"O Paradis"
And invocations to the weather/day/night/cosmos/stars
"Tacea la notte placida"
The hymn to the sun in Iris
The Song to the Moon in Russalka
Everyone did very well with that one; how about arias sung "by" inanimate
objects.
"Chere enfant" - sung by the painting of Antonia's mother in Hoffman would seem
to qualify. Any others?
Pat
Karen Mercedes
> aria sung to his coat, I started thinking about other
> arias addressed to objects. Here's a start:
>
> "Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
A tree is only inanimate if it's dead. :) But, interestingly, this isn't
the only Handel aria addressed to a tree. There's also "Verdi allori" in
his opera ORLANDO, which Medoro sings to a laurel tree after carving his
sweetheart's initials into its trunk.
> "Zauberfloete"--Tamino's aria "Dies Bildnis" sung to a picture
> of Pamina.
>
> "Hoffman"--Dappertuto's aria "Scintille Diamant"
MANON - Adieu, notre petite table (to a table)
ADRIANA LECOUVREUR - Poveri fiori (to a bouquet of poisoned violets)
TOSCA - Recondita armonia (to his painting)
FAUST - Faites-lui mes aveux (to flowers he has picked)
HAMLET - O vin, dissipe la tristesse (to a glass - or bottle - of wine)
HERODIADE - Astres etincelants (to the stars)
H.M.S PINAFORE - Fair moon, to thee I sing (to the moon)
LA BOHEME - Vecchia zimarra (to an overcoat)
ZOLOTOY PYETUSHOK (LE COQ D'OR) - Hymn to the Sun (to the sun)
RUSALKA - Mesiku na nebi hlubokem (to the moon)
SIEGFRIED - Nothung! Nothung! (to a sword)
TANNHAEUSER - O du mein holder Abendstern (to a star)
Karen Mercedes
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Leonard Tillman
>Leonard Tillman wrote:
" Ok, a tree is "organic", but isn't it
"inanimate", at least externally, and to the naked eye?
And as part of the "still life" category, not qualifying as "animate"? "
-----------------
>Hmm. I was thinking that the definition of
> inanimate is "not alive", not "not moving".
>Looking in my dictionary, I see that both
> definitions are listed.
>According to definition
> 1a ("not endowed with life or spirit") the tree is
> not an inanimate object. According to
> definition
>1b ("lacking consciousness or
> power of motion") the tree is an inanimate
> object. So I guess we're both right.
That is so.
>According to definition 2 ("not animated or
> lively"), Jane Eaglen is an
>inanimate object.
Her husband totally disagrees. But I saw a rock star on tv recently
- a dull teen, singing a dull tune, in a dull tone. I love consistency.
She was as *inanimate* an object as we need consider qualified.
LT
--
>harris mor...@aol.com wrote:
>of course don't forget Tillman's aria to his set
> of benwa balls...
> "O
>cari balle di metallo chi mi piaciano tutte la
> notte..."
----------------
>Benwa? Isn't he the fellow who admits to an
> encounter with "una quercia"? I wonder if she
> was inanimate.
>mdl
Morganowitall was unable to elaborate, due to a sudden and severe
personal-care emergency, result from the consumption of a bad burrito.
(I'll spare the details..)
-- So in his stead, I'll provide the sorely neglected explanation:
Benwa's...er...Benoit's spherical items here in reference, were the work
of "una quercia" (sturdy, but amiably animate) -- *Matzo Balls*.....made
by her own tender and loving extremities. (Not to be confused with the
'65 movie release, "Thunderball" -- great title-song, btw.)
Mike Richter
>
> From: mric...@cpl.net (Mike Richter)
> >Vecchia zimarra
> >A te l'estremo addio
>
> Actually my first choice, when noticing this thread.
> (Someone else had posted it, though..)
I've seen no other mention of "A te l'estremo addio".
Lis K. Froding
>
> I've seen some singers who seem to be inanimate objects on stage.
In particular in the role of the Commendatore ;-)))
Lis
Mark D Lew
(Capa0848) wrote:
> Does Macbeth sing to his dagger in the opera, as he does in the play "Is
this a
> dagger I see before me?"
>
> "Rheingold! Rheingold!
> Leuchtende lust!
>
> "Di Quella Pira"
> "Stride la vampa"
Am I missing something here? The question was about arias sung TO
inanimate objects, not about them. Manrico does not sing to the pyre, nor
does Azucena sing to the flames. Same goes for your nostalgic arias about
places.
> "Chere enfant" - sung by the painting of Antonia's mother in Hoffman
would seem
> to qualify. Any others?
How's yer mug?
mdl
Mark D Lew
tapef...@webtv.net (Leonard Tillman) wrote:
> Her husband totally disagrees. But I saw a rock star on tv recently
> - a dull teen, singing a dull tune, in a dull tone. I love consistency.
Did she have a dull tan?
mdl
Leonard Tillman
inhabitants, but *the city* as "inanimate" ?)
Leonard Tillman
><2625-3DC...@storefull-2272.public.
" Her husband totally disagrees.
But I saw a rock star on tv recently
- a dull teen, singing a dull tune, in a dull tone.
I love consistency. "
>Did she have a dull tan?
Her tan was as fallow as her song was shallow.
>mdl
Leonard Tillman
>Leonard Tillman wrote:
>From: mric...@cpl.net (Mike Richter)
>Vecchia zimarra
>A te l'estremo addio
" Actually my first choice, when noticing this thread.
(Someone else had posted it, though..)"
>I've seen no other mention of "A te l'estremo
> addio".
>Mike
--------------------------
Neither have I, but isn't it more familiarly called "Il lacerato
spirito", and thusly ineligible for this topic, -- as a person's spirit,
whether lacerated or well, is *alive* (and conscious) in some sense*?
(*Note thread's debates regarding "trees" )
But the first of the arias you mentioned, also my *intended* "first
choice" ("Vecchia zimarra"), though unnamed, was this thread's
"inspiration" - and referenced at its very beginning (first paragraph)
:
LT
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From: abr...@NOSPAMatt.net (A. Brain)
OK, this sounds like a "Texaco Opera Quiz" question, but after last
night's "Boheme" and hearing Colline's aria sung to his coat, I started
thinking about other arias addressed to objects.
Here's a start:
"Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
"Zauberfloete"--Tamino's aria "Dies Bildnis" sung to a picture of
Pamina.
"Hoffman"--Dappertuto's aria "Scintille Diamant"
These three at least I can picture only as being sung directly while the
singer is gazing at the object, as in Boheme. And there are probably
countless others.
"Fidelio"--Rocco's aria to Money? It's just about money, not addressed
to money.
Leporello's "catalogue aria" is not really addressed to the list.
Oh well, just a thought on what is a diversion from the usual aria
addressed to a loved one.
--
A. Brain
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> But that reminds me: in Ludvig Holberg's utopic novel "Niels Klim's
> subterraneous voyage" there is a country where tree-people live.
> (There is another country where people live who have the form of a
> double-bass with a bow in their hand. When they have committed a crime,
> their bouw is taken away from them for a certain time.)
>
And so they are condemned to play pizzicato?
Capa0848
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>
>In article <20021109210559...@mb-fr.aol.com>, capa...@aol.com
>(Capa0848) wrote:
>
>> Does Macbeth sing to his dagger in the opera, as he does in the play "Is
>this a
>> dagger I see before me?"
>>
>> "Rheingold! Rheingold!
>> Leuchtende lust!
>>
>> "Di Quella Pira"
>> "Stride la vampa"
>
>Am I missing something here? The question was about arias sung TO
>inanimate objects, not about them. Manrico does not sing to the pyre, nor
>does Azucena sing to the flames. Same goes for your nostalgic arias about
>places.
>
I see your point. I guess I was thinking in terms of arias in which the
character was visualizing an object or a place (whether present or not) and it
was that visualization which was prompted the aria. That's not quite the same
thing as singing "to' the object.
{Re arias sung *by* inanimate objects...
>> "Chere enfant" - sung by the painting of Antonia's mother in Hoffman would
seem
>> to qualify. Any others?
>
>How's yer mug?
>
I don't know what that means.
Pat
Bog McBog O'Boggable
Eri tu sung by Renato from "Ballo"
La fleur que tu m'avais jetee sung by Don Jose
Would Dinorah's "Shadow Song" count as being sung to an inanimate object?
Bog McBog O'Boggable
In the event that he does see this, I'll do the honours for him...
ass licker/kisser (I don't want to get a donkey's fur all over my mouth)
butt f***er (I've never had sex with a gun in my life)
cock sucker (A funny way to consume poultry)
go f*** Handelfag (Why? Has he started selling his own cigaretttes?)
diahorrea eater (Definitely not true. I don't like Indian cookery)
c**t hater (Well, it takes one to know one)
w***er (I can. That's why he's jealous)
Matthew B. Tepper
to be typed in news:20021109210559...@mb-fr.aol.com:
> Everyone did very well with that one; how about arias sung "by"
> inanimate objects.
>
> "Chere enfant" - sung by the painting of Antonia's mother in Hoffman
> would seem to qualify. Any others?
How about the entire role of the Omniscient Mussel or whatever that
singing clam (don't say it!) in R. Strauss' _Die Ægyptische Helena_?
HenryFogel
>Date: 11/10/2002 11:28 AM Central Standard Time
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>
>capa...@aol.com (Capa0848) appears to have caused the following letters
>to be typed in news:20021109210559...@mb-fr.aol.com:
>
>> Everyone did very well with that one; how about arias sung "by"
>> inanimate objects.
>>
>> "Chere enfant" - sung by the painting of Antonia's mother in Hoffman
>> would seem to qualify. Any others?
>
>How about the entire role of the Omniscient Mussel or whatever that
>singing clam (don't say it!) in R. Strauss' _Die Ægyptische Helena_?
>
The Toys in Ravel's "L'enfants et les sortileges".
Henry Fogel
Larry Rinkel
> "Larry Rinkel" <LRi...@optonline.nete> wrote in
> news:xQtz9.29206$XG3....@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
> to talk, but that playing on the strings is their way of
> communication. Of course the whole thing is kind of a joke. But
> inside the story, taking away the bow is considered a severe
> punishment, taking it away for the rest of their life is considered
> equivalent to capital punishment (!).
> Holberg apparently didn't think about pizzicato (or borrowing or
> buying another bow), but just think how your day would be, if you
> were forced Tango-Oscar Sierra-Papa-Echo-Lima-Lima Echo-Victor-Echo-
> Romeo-Yankee Whiskey-Oscar-Romeo-Delta.
> See what I mean ;-) ?
>
Sounds like a typical day chez moi. . . .
Elisa
>Also, Cavardossi sings to a picture of Tosca in Recondita armonia.
Since no one's nitpicked this so far: you didn't mean it was a picture of
Tosca, but the blonde, blue-eyed Attavanti. Does she ever appear in the staging
of Tosca, praying at the chapel, and then slipping out? I'd imagine that most
Toscas would prefer to be the only female on stage, the entire evening.
--
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dtritter
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Dan
townsfolk. 'Beviam'
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> "Viva il vino spumeggiante" (though it does sparkle and shimmer..)
Mark D Lew
(Capa0848) wrote:
> >How's yer mug?
> >
> I don't know what that means.
That's the first line sung by the teapot in "L'Enfant et les sortilèges".
The libretto is in French, but since the teapot is Wedgwood he speaks in
English. His text is, evidently, a Francophone's idea of what English
sounds like. The words are mostly grammatical, but they don't really make
sense, except maybe in a surreal sort of way.
mdl
Mark D Lew
bog_mcbog_o...@yahoo.co.uk (Bog McBog O'Boggable) wrote:
> La fleur que tu m'avais jetee sung by Don Jose
La fleur que WHO m'avais jetée?
What the heck kind of crazy Carmen productions have you folks been
watching? In a normal production, José sings this aria to Carmen.
mdl
Margaret Mikulska
Mark D Lew wrote:
> > "Zauberfloete"--Tamino's aria "Dies Bildnis" sung to a picture
> > of Pamina.
>
> Not really an aria, but Tamino sings quite a bit to his flute as well.
It's a full-fledged aria. What are you missing?
-Margaret
--
mikulska at silvertone dot princeton dot edu
Margaret Mikulska
"A. Brain" wrote:
>
> OK, this sounds like a "Texaco Opera Quiz" question,
> but after last night's "Boheme" and hearing Colline's
> aria sung to his coat, I started thinking about other
> arias addressed to objects. Here's a start:
Faust: "Salut, demeure chaste et pure".
Margaret Mikulska
"Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> Mark D Lew wrote:
>
> "A. Brain" <abr...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Xerxes"--"Ombra mai fu", sung to a tree.
> >
>
> But it isn't exactly peripatetic, either! (When did you
> last see one walking about?)
Any production of Macbeth should have plenty of them walking.
Leonard Tillman
>But Turridu is not singing to the wine, but
> singing to the company of townsfolk. 'Beviam'
>Dan
Note subject-title changing "to" to "about".
Of course, had Alfio not interrupted the proceedings, and Turiddu had
consumed enough vino -- he very well *might* have been singing *to* it..
Wine's been known to have stranger effects.
LT
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Margaret Mikulska
"A. Brain" wrote:
> >
> > OK, this sounds like a "Texaco Opera Quiz" question,
> > but after last night's "Boheme" and hearing Colline's
> > aria sung to his coat, I started thinking about other
> > arias addressed to objects. Here's a start:
> [...]
Two more architectural numbers:
Elisabeth: "Dich, teure Halle, grüss' ich wieder".
In Moniuszko's "The Haunted Manor" there is a breathtakingly beatiful
trio sung by two brothers and their servant addressed to the house in
which they were born and brought up. Extremely lyrical.
Margaret Mikulska
Mitchell Kaufman wrote:
> "Salome" -- Final scene, sung to a head.
The ultimate inanimate, in this context.
-MM
Capa0848
>Message-id: <markdlew-ya0240800...@news.earthlink.net>
>
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Thanks; I've listened to that opera once or twice, but obviously not carefully
enough.
Pat
David P Chabot
> >
> I don't know what that means.
>That's the first line sung by the teapot in "L'Enfant et les sortilèges".
>The libretto is in French, but since the teapot is Wedgwood he speaks in
>English. His text is, evidently, a Francophone's idea of what English
>sounds like. The words are mostly grammatical, but they don't really make
>sense, except maybe in a surreal sort of way.
>mdl
Also the chair and the grandfather clock and the fire in the fireplace...
does the wallpaper count?
Peace...Dave www.Shemakhan.com
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before
breakfast."
Through the Looking-Glass Lewis Carroll
Bog McBog O'Boggable
OTHER than Carmen. I think I've seen this aria addressed to carmen
ONCE.
Christopher Green
[snip]
> Everyone did very well with that one; how about arias sung "by" inanimate
> objects.
>
> "Chere enfant" - sung by the painting of Antonia's mother in Hoffman would seem
> to qualify. Any others?
>
Not quite an opera, but there's the flute that sings "O Spielmann,
lieber Spielmann mein" in Das Klagende Lied.
--
Chris Green
Leonard Tillman
>mark...@earthlink.net (Mark D Lew) wrote
>McBog O'Boggable wrote:
>La fleur que tu m'avais jetee sung by Don
> Jose
----------------
>La fleur que WHO m'avais jetée?
>What the heck kind of crazy Carmen
> productions have you folks been watching?
>In a normal production, José sings this
>aria to Carmen.
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>I've seen Don Jose sing this TO the flower, to
>the floor, to anything OTHER than Carmen. I
> think I've seen this aria addressed to carmen
> ONCE.
Any bets that "normal productions" will soon be history?
Perhaps we'll be seeing "flowers" facing upwards and singing right
back (in a superior voice to Carmen's) at a very bewildered Jose..
Leonard Tillman
LT (Withholding suggestions)
HenryFogel
Henry Fogel
Valfer
statua gentilissima" from Don Giovanni would be in the same class,
except that it is not an aria, and the statue is not inanimate.
Siegfried sings two big numbers, the first to his hammer, and then to
his sword (or is it the other way around?) This makes him appear
headstrong and cocksure (or is it the other way around?)
Valfer
capa...@aol.com (Capa0848) wrote in message news:<20021109210559...@mb-fr.aol.com>...
> >Subject: Arias addressed to inanimate objects?
> >From: "A. Brain" abr...@NOSPAMatt.net
> >Date: 11/09/2002 12:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <gs3z9.1549$W52.107...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>
> >
> >OK, this sounds like a "Texaco Opera Quiz" question,
> >but after last night's "Boheme" and hearing Colline's
> >aria sung to his coat, I started thinking about other
> >arias addressed to objects. Here's a start:
>
> Does Macbeth sing to his dagger in the opera, as he does in the play "Is this a
> dagger I see before me?"
>
> "Rheingold! Rheingold!
> Leuchtende lust!
>
> "Di Quella Pira"
> "Stride la vampa"
>
> There are lots of nostalgic/geographic arias, too,
>
> "La Provenza del mar"
> "Ai nostri monti"
> "O Paradis"
>
> And invocations to the weather/day/night/cosmos/stars
>
> "Tacea la notte placida"
> The hymn to the sun in Iris
> The Song to the Moon in Russalka
Pat Finley
>
> Siegfried sings two big numbers, the first to his hammer, and then to
> his sword (or is it the other way around?) This makes him appear
> headstrong and cocksure (or is it the other way around?)
>
> Valfer
>
> > Pat
That's nothing. (Nothung? not-hung?) A lot of us have been in
Siegmund's, uh, shoes, singing "Wo ist mein schwert?"
And that putz Wotan* thought *he* had angst.
*I hope I didn't offend any adherents of the old Norse/Germanic
religion. I wouldn't want anyone to get Thor over a silly joke.
Pat
Leonard Tillman
> his hammer, and then to his sword (or is it the
> other way around?) This makes him appear
> headstrong and cocksure (or is it the other
> way around?)
>Valfer
>That's nothing. (Nothung? not-hung?)
The latter would be a certain Knowitnot, -- until we arrange the tree
and noose..
>A lot of us have been in Siegmund's, uh,
> shoes, singing "Wo ist mein schwert?"
>And that putz Wotan* thought *he* had angst.
>*I hope I didn't offend any adherents of the old
> Norse/Germanic religion. I wouldn't want
> anyone to get Thor over a silly joke.
>Pat
Thilly? -- Nothung at all to get Thor *about*!
I believe Georges Thill did record Wagner excerpts, but *thmoother*
than most are accustomed to hearing in this fach.
tonybabony11
> capa...@aol.com (Capa0848) appears to have caused the following letters
> to be typed in news:20021109210559...@mb-fr.aol.com:
>
> > Everyone did very well with that one; how about arias sung "by"
> > inanimate objects.
> >
> > "Chere enfant" - sung by the painting of Antonia's mother in Hoffman
> > would seem to qualify. Any others?
>
> How about the entire role of the Omniscient Mussel or whatever that
> singing clam (don't say it!) in R. Strauss' _Die Ægyptische Helena_?
The singing mussel may be stationary, but is it inanimate? Wouldn't
it wave its fronds or something?
How about a severed head, which sings an aria in Russlan and Ludmila?
The Giant's Head is sung by a chorus, for the impressive tone color,
but I think it qualifies as an aria as it represents an individual.
By the way, if these objects sing, how can they be inanimate?
Yours in anxious pedantry
Tony
Karen Mercedes
SORTILEGES, including an armchair, a clock, a teapot, a cup, and the
figures in the wallpaper.
In DON GIOVANNI, of course, there is the statue of the Commendatore which
sings in the final scene.
There is also the mechanical doll Olympia in LES CONTES D'HOFFMANN - yes,
she moves (through mechanisation), but she is not alive, and thus not
really "animate".
If you mean "inanimate" in the "not alive" sense, there are several ghosts
in opera, including that of Hamlet's father (Thomas: HAMLET), and those
of Cassandre, Chorebe, Hector, and Priam in LES TROYENS, plus the Happy
Shade in ORFEO ED EURIDICE.
There's also the voice on the recording (created by Mabel Mercer in the
original production) in Menotti's THE CONSUL.
Karen Mercedes
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Zoraida di Granata.
"Poveri fiori" also sung to flowers, by Adriana in Adriana Lecouvreur
Matthew B. Tepper
Mimarobe, who tends to the titled ship's computer. It's been a while since
I actually listened to this opera (some of it is brilliant and inspired,
but large parts of it strike me as 1950s modernist kitsch), but doesn't he
actually address the computer every now and then?
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Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)
"Matthew B. Tepper" wrote:
>
> In Karl-Birger Blomdahl's _Aniara_, there is a character called the
> Mimarobe, who tends to the titled ship's computer. It's been a while since
> I actually listened to this opera (some of it is brilliant and inspired,
> but large parts of it strike me as 1950s modernist kitsch), but doesn't he
> actually address the computer every now and then?
Probably - don't you? I think most of us do - often with
profanity. (And I'm not at all convinced that computers
count as "inanimate objects" - they often seem to have wills
of their own!)(;-D}
Rafael Bocanegra
> How about Cheyl Studer singing a love aria to our friend Pineiro?
>
> In the event that he does see this, I'll do the honours for him...
>
> ass licker/kisser (I don't want to get a donkey's fur all over my mouth)
> butt f***er (I've never had sex with a gun in my life)
> cock sucker (A funny way to consume poultry)
> go f*** Handelfag (Why? Has he started selling his own cigaretttes?)
> diahorrea eater (Definitely not true. I don't like Indian cookery)
> c**t hater (Well, it takes one to know one)
> w***er (I can. That's why he's jealous)
fag
Mark D Lew
miku...@silvertone.princeton.edu wrote:
> It's a full-fledged aria. What are you missing?
In a numbers opera like Flute, I tend to think of a piece as an aria only
if it is labeled as such in the score. Tamino's flute song is part of the
act one finale. There is no complete break in the music either before or
after this piece, as there is with the other arias in the opera.
mdl
(Does Papageno have a full-fledged costume?)
Mark D Lew
Chabot" <dpch...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Also the chair and the grandfather clock and the fire in the fireplace...
> does the wallpaper count?
Well, the characters in the wallpaper are a chorus, so they surely don't
sing an aria. Come to think of it, I don't think the teapot or the chairs
do either. The fire does, and I think perhaps the clock does, too.
mdl
Mark D Lew
pfi...@mhfence.com (Pat Finley) wrote:
> That's nothing. (Nothung? not-hung?) A lot of us have been in
> Siegmund's, uh, shoes, singing "Wo ist mein schwert?"
I have been assured that "not-hung", while less than ideal, is not as much
of a shortcoming as "no-tongue".
mdl
I box you, sir!
Mermaid Legs
though you can have a mug of beer too. In 1920s (approx.) slang, it also
meant the human face, particularly one of coarse appearance (think Edward G.
Robinson), and was part of gangster slang. Thus a "mug shot" is a photograph
of the human face, and the term is still in use by police and newspaper
workers. "Mugging" means making a grimace (twisting your "mug" into a
grimace). . "Mugged" means being robbed at gunpoint, and it's anybody's
guess at the origin of that usage (perhaps the robber originally seized his
victim by throwing an arm across his face?). In Ravel's opera, the teapot,
an uncouth Black Wedgwood who apparently is from the world of boxing, asks
the teacup (which is china and therefore looks Chinese) "How's your mug?"
and then proceeds to sing a few lines in Colette's clever mix of British and
American slang phrases, none of them at all accurate. The china cup responds
in fake Chinese (the name of Sessue Hayakawa, the famous Chinese actor who
in his later years appeared in "The Bridge Over the River Kwai," comes into
play here!) Maybe somebody who speaks Chinese can comment further on these
lines. What a delicious, subtle little opera this is, a gem from beginning
to end.
Mermaid Legs
continues to sing anyway.
Mark D Lew
<sharp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Mugged" means being robbed at gunpoint, and it's anybody's
> guess at the origin of that usage (perhaps the robber originally seized his
> victim by throwing an arm across his face?)
Merriam Webster suggests essentially that. There is record of "mug" as a
transitive verb meaning to hit someone in the face.
Even today, the term does not necessarily imply a gun. One can be mugged
at knifepoint, for instance.
mdl
Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)
Mermaid Legs wrote:
>
The china cup responds
> in fake Chinese (the name of Sessue Hayakawa, the famous Chinese actor who
> in his later years appeared in "The Bridge Over the River Kwai," comes into
> play here!)
Uh... you may be right about the lyrics, but Hayakawa is/was
Japanese, not Chinese - there are quite obvious differences
in names and the languages spoken by the two nationalities.
(It's true that during WW2, a great many Chinese-American
actors got jobs playing Japanese in American movies, but
they don't really look Japanese, and even quite a few
Americans can tell the difference - at least those of us on
the West coast, who have known both.)
David P Chabot
was aiming for "oriental" in using the language she chosen to use.
David Baker
> objects.
>
>
ANY BASS SINGING??
dtritter
believe, a naturalized american.
dft
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Jon Wright
> The Giant's Head is sung by a chorus, for the impressive tone color,
> but I think it qualifies as an aria as it represents an individual.
>
> By the way, if these objects sing, how can they be inanimate?
>
A good question. Another severed head that sings, in this case held by
its own body, is that of the Green Knight in Birtwistle's Gawain.
Tomlinson has since recovered, I believe.
Jon Wright, London