Basso
eldreds
recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to famous Bass
masters? I know and appreciate Pinza and, more recently Ramey, but what are
some others you would recommend that I listen to? I appreciate your
recommendations.
Martin E
PK
Depends on the linguistic domain you want to explore. Pinza is certainly
the greatest Italian basso, with Tancredi Pasero as very close second
(and Nazzareno de Angelis isn't bad either). But you definitely have to
discover what is probably the greatest basso voice ever (and a giant of
an artist) : the Ukrainian/Jewish/Russian (let's not go into this) Mark
Reizen. In the same, "Slavic" domain, Shaliapin is, of course, a must,
so is Alexander Kipnis (there are many more).
PK
Lars Henriksson
Ghiaurov.
José van Dam and Ghiaurov's countryman Nicola Ghiuselev are excellent also -
although they do not have either the beauty of voice or power to match
Ghiaurov.
Greetings from another basso,
--
Lars Henriksson, Sweden
opera singer, pianist
la...@hotmail.com
PK <pro...@cybercable.fr> skrev i
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PK
>
> By far the best bass ever in my mind is the bulgarian singer Nicolai
> Ghiaurov.
>
> José van Dam and Ghiaurov's countryman Nicola Ghiuselev are excellent also -
> although they do not have either the beauty of voice or power to match
> Ghiaurov.
>
> Greetings from another basso,
>
> --
>
> Lars Henriksson, Sweden
> opera singer, pianist
> la...@hotmail.com
Far from me any thought of running down the merits of Ghiaurov,
certainly one of the greatest singers of our time (at least at the
beginning of his career, the voice having begun to decline quite fast in
the late seventies), but have you ever heard Reizen?
As for José van Dam, a glorious, intelligent, sensitive artist of ever
there was one, he isn't a basso really, more of a bass-baritone.
PK
benjamin maso
eldreds <eld...@mtaonline.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
jS_w5.4122$uQ.2...@news-west.usenetserver.com...
> I am a student singer who is exploring the Bass repertoire. Are there
> recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to famous
Bass
> masters? I know and appreciate Pinza and, more recently Ramey, but what
are
> some others you would recommend that I listen to? I appreciate your
> recommendations.
Reizen and Kipnis are already mentioned. But don't forget Paul Plançon
(1851-1914), an incredible virtuoso and a master of the French style (on
Pearl and Romophone).
Benjo Maso
Jon Davis
>> recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to famous
>Bass
>> masters?
Christoff, Christoff, Christoff!!!!
Jon Davis
There comes a time when you should stop expecting other
people to make a big deal about your birthday. That time is age 11.
Tartufo dalba
"MODERN": Cesare Siepi, Nicolai Ghiaurov, Boris Christoff, Gottlob Frick, Hans
Hotter, Kurt Moll, Mark Reizen
"OLDER": Jose Mardones, Ezio Pinza, Nazzareno de Angelis, Tancredi Pasero,
Feodor Chaliapin, Alexander Kipnis
"OLDEST": Marcel Journet, Pol Plancon, Edouard de Reszke
Good luck.
b...@pipeline.com
On 17 Sep 2000 12:41:43 GMT, tartuf...@aol.com (Tartufo dalba)
wrote:
atn3
(Mozart's Don Giovanni conducted by N. Marriner - Philips), which gives a
good example of intelligence and humour.
For the French repertoire, I recommend José van Dam, especially in the
devil's roles, in Faust by Gounod in particular (Plasson-EMI)
Anh Tuan
eldreds <eld...@mtaonline.net> a écrit dans le message :
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> I am a student singer who is exploring the Bass repertoire. Are there
> recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to famous
Bass
> masters? I know and appreciate Pinza and, more recently Ramey, but what
are
> some others you would recommend that I listen to? I appreciate your
> recommendations.
>
> Martin E
>
>
>
>
GRNDPADAVE
For Rossini, I would recommend (for Mose and Maometto II) Ruggero Raimondi.
For Verdi, Plinio Clabassi, Bonaldo Gaiotti, Giorgio Tozzi.
For Mozart, Arnold van Mill, Salvatore Baccaloni, Wladimiro Ganzarolli,
Fernando Corena.
For Wagner, Martti Talvela.
==G/P Dave
GRNDPADAVE
I meant to include Gottlob Frick.
With Andy's permission I would add Italo Tajo (my favorite Sparafucile).
==G/P Dave
Andre Edouard
Andre
PK
>
> >I am a student singer who is exploring the Bass repertoire. Are there
> >> recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to famous
> >Bass
> >> masters?
>
>
> Jon Davis
> There comes a time when you should stop expecting other
> people to make a big deal about your birthday. That time is age 11.
>
>
Of course, if you don't listen to his Boris (twice), where he sings (?)
his own notes, and not Mussorgski's (or Rimski's, whatever), and his
Mephisto (twice) where his French is beyond ridiculous. Otherwise, the
voice is, of course, fabulous.
PK
GRNDPADAVE
>Date: 09/17/2000 11:26 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39C4F0C6...@bellsouth.net>
Siepi, I love. I have 4 of his Don Giovanni recordings. He has the humor,
sensality, and nobility for the role.
I didn't mention him because others had already done so.
There are two other bassi I enjoy even if they are not in the Pinza, Siepi,
Reizen, Ghiaurov class:
Niccolo Zaccaria and Nicola Moscona.
==G/P Dave
Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)
did a few bass roles early in his career, he himself says he did not really have
the low range of a true bass. He allowed von Karajan to persuade him to record
Sarastro, and has done the arias in concert (and on a couple of CD's), but has
flatly refused to do it in performance, because he says his voice really isn't
"right" for it. ( I'd certainly not say that his voice lacks either "beauty" or
"power" - it's just not a true bass!)
Lars Henriksson wrote:
> By far the best bass ever in my mind is the bulgarian singer Nicolai
> Ghiaurov.
>
> José van Dam and Ghiaurov's countryman Nicola Ghiuselev are excellent also -
> although they do not have either the beauty of voice or power to match
> Ghiaurov.
>
> Greetings from another basso,
>
> --
>
> Lars Henriksson, Sweden
> opera singer, pianist
> la...@hotmail.com
>
> PK <pro...@cybercable.fr> skrev i
> diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:39C47F75...@cybercable.fr...
> > eldreds wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a student singer who is exploring the Bass repertoire. Are there
> > > recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to famous
> Bass
> > > masters? I know and appreciate Pinza and, more recently Ramey, but what
> are
> > > some others you would recommend that I listen to? I appreciate your
> > > recommendations.
> > >
> > > Martin E
> >
donpaolo
of not only bravura basso singing (Ghiaurov), but also gorgeous cantante
(Tozzi).
Buona Fortuna,
DonPaolo
eldreds <eld...@mtaonline.net> wrote in message
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Jorge Luis Castillo
Australian basso profondo Malcom McEachern (Pearl 9455), with a
magnificent voice wasted in part on a throwaway repertory (his
renditions of Handel very much excepted); the German Michael Bohnen (he
excelled in Wagner) is also a favorite as well as the French Marcel
Journet. Among the basses aready mantioned. Pinza, Plançon and Siepi are
my favorites. Plançon's technique is a marvel in itself: sample, if you,
will his earliest rendition of the air from "le tambour majeur" from
Thomas' forgotten opera Le caďd .
tresbirri
The list up to now is wonderful! May we not add, just for the fun
of it, Giulio Neri? Not really a wonderful singer -- but a DEVIL
of a voice!
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Before you buy.
Victor Han
>But you definitely have to
> discover what is probably the greatest basso voice ever (and a giant
of
> an artist) : the Ukrainian/Jewish/Russian (let's not go into this)
Mark
> Reizen.
You might as well discover Mark Reizen sooner than later, not only for
the sheer beauty of the voice but also for the superior intellect that
makes his singing into art. As J.B. Steane wrote about him " a singer
for students".
Check my site (see URL below) for many examples
of his singing as music files. On the same site you will also find
two other greats of the Russian school, Ukrainian bass Boris Gmyria
and a true Russian deep bass, Maksim Mikhailov.
Best regards, Victor
Victor Han
vh...@interlink.net
"Great Russian Voices"
http://russia.uthscsa.edu/Music/GRV/
In article <39C47F75...@cybercable.fr>,
PK <pro...@cybercable.fr> wrote:
> eldreds wrote:
> >
> > I am a student singer who is exploring the Bass repertoire. Are
there
> > recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to
famous Bass
> > masters? I know and appreciate Pinza and, more recently Ramey, but
what are
> > some others you would recommend that I listen to? I appreciate your
> > recommendations.
> >
> > Martin E
>
> Depends on the linguistic domain you want to explore. Pinza is
certainly
> the greatest Italian basso, with Tancredi Pasero as very close second
> (and Nazzareno de Angelis isn't bad either). But you definitely have
to
> discover what is probably the greatest basso voice ever (and a giant
of
> an artist) : the Ukrainian/Jewish/Russian (let's not go into this)
Mark
> Reizen. In the same, "Slavic" domain, Shaliapin is, of course, a must,
> so is Alexander Kipnis (there are many more).
>
> PK
>
--
Lars Henriksson
I have indeed heard Reizen. Sounds like Christoff a bit (only better) -
although I have to tell you I don't like Christoff at all, although I know
some people do.
Nicolai Ghiaurov rules the world of basses!
--
Lars Henriksson, Sweden
opera singer, pianist
la...@hotmail.com
PK <pro...@cybercable.fr> skrev i
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> Lars Henriksson wrote:
> >
> > By far the best bass ever in my mind is the bulgarian singer Nicolai
> > Ghiaurov.
> >
> > José van Dam and Ghiaurov's countryman Nicola Ghiuselev are excellent
also -
> > although they do not have either the beauty of voice or power to match
> > Ghiaurov.
> >
> > Greetings from another basso,
> >
> > --
> >
> > Lars Henriksson, Sweden
> > opera singer, pianist
> > la...@hotmail.com
>
> Far from me any thought of running down the merits of Ghiaurov,
> certainly one of the greatest singers of our time (at least at the
> beginning of his career, the voice having begun to decline quite fast in
> the late seventies), but have you ever heard Reizen?
>
> As for José van Dam, a glorious, intelligent, sensitive artist of ever
> there was one, he isn't a basso really, more of a bass-baritone.
>
> PK
>
> > PK <pro...@cybercable.fr> skrev i
> > diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:39C47F75...@cybercable.fr...
PK
>
> I have indeed heard Reizen. Sounds like Christoff a bit (only better) -
> although I have to tell you I don't like Christoff at all, although I know
> some people do.
Are you sure we are speaking about the same Reizen? There isn't anything
more different in the world of singing, than Christoff's and Reizen's
Borises, for instance. I'm stunned.
> Nicolai Ghiaurov rules the world of basses!
If you say so.
PK
Victor Han
Born in 1895 he was 4 years younger than Kipnis (b 1891), three years
younger than Pinza (b 1892) and two years younger than Pasero (b 1893)
so he was virtually their contemporary.
Of course he outlasted all of them to make remarkable recordings well
into his 80's and to appear on stage, still in remarkable form, for his
90th birthday in 1985.
Regards, Victor
Victor Han
vh...@interlink.net
"Great Russian Voices"
http://russia.uthscsa.edu/Music/GRV/
In article <20000917084143...@ng-fk1.aol.com>,
tartuf...@aol.com (Tartufo dalba) wrote:
> Here are a few:
>
> "MODERN": Cesare Siepi, Nicolai Ghiaurov, Boris Christoff, Gottlob
Frick, Hans
> Hotter, Kurt Moll, Mark Reizen
>
> "OLDER": Jose Mardones, Ezio Pinza, Nazzareno de Angelis, Tancredi
Pasero,
> Feodor Chaliapin, Alexander Kipnis
>
> "OLDEST": Marcel Journet, Pol Plancon, Edouard de Reszke
>
> Good luck.
>
--
Victor Han
vh...@interlink.net
"Great Russian Voices"
http://russia.uthscsa.edu/Music/GRV/
benjamin maso
PK <pro...@cybercable.fr> schreef in berichtnieuws
39C4F3BC...@cybercable.fr...
> Jon Davis wrote:
> >
> > >I am a student singer who is exploring the Bass repertoire. Are there
> > >> recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to
famous
> > >Bass
> > >> masters?
> >
> >
> > Jon Davis
> > There comes a time when you should stop expecting other
> > people to make a big deal about your birthday. That time is age 11.
> >
> >
>
> Of course, if you don't listen to his Boris (twice), where he sings (?)
> his own notes, and not Mussorgski's (or Rimski's, whatever), and his
> Mephisto (twice) where his French is beyond ridiculous. Otherwise, the
> voice is, of course, fabulous.
My grandfather (who was Russian), was always complaining about Christoff's
"ugly Bulgarian accent" in Boris.
Benjo Maso
Lis K. Froding
"eldreds" <eld...@mtaonline.net> wrote:
>I am a student singer who is exploring the Bass repertoire. Are there
>recommendations form those experienced listeners out there as to famous Bass
>masters? I know and appreciate Pinza and, more recently Ramey, but what are
>some others you would recommend that I listen to? I appreciate your
>recommendations.
>
>Martin E
Some suggestions, in alphabetical order:
James Morris.
Rene Pape.
Peter Rose.
Lis
Cfehlandt
believe there's a Pearl CD available). Rosa Ponselle said he had the greatest
bass voice she ever heard.
Carl F.
PS: Frick and Neri are also examples of this breed.
PK
I would take the "ugly Bulgarian accent" any time, having heard worse in
that department : Mr George Fortune, for example, respected baritone,
who, in the Orfeo production of Dvorak's Armida (a work that is steadily
growing up on me) didn't even try to learn ONE word of the libretto,
singing just notes and something undescribable underneath. What bothers
me in Christoff's Boris (and there are traces of it elswewhere in his
work, for example in his famous, complete songs of Mussorgsky), is the
shameless histrionics, officially "shaliapinesque", destroying the
musical thought entirely, whining, screaming, ranting. Compare the great
monologue and the clock scene with him, and with Reizen : voices
notwithstanding (and Reizen's towers above any basso voice in history,
of course), they simply aren't in the same league. Fortunately, Ghiaurov
is much more respectful of the music, restrained and moving here.
PK
PK
>
> I find it a bit amusing that you are listing Reizen with the "Moderns".
> Born in 1895 he was 4 years younger than Kipnis (b 1891), three years
> younger than Pinza (b 1892) and two years younger than Pasero (b 1893)
> so he was virtually their contemporary.
>
> Of course he outlasted all of them to make remarkable recordings well
> into his 80's and to appear on stage, still in remarkable form, for his
> 90th birthday in 1985.
>
> Regards, Victor
I guess the reason : in spite of his age, Reizen "appeared" in the West
much later than Pinza, Kipnis or Pasero, in fact, he's making his
"debut" - so to speak - right now, with all the recordings coming out
(and there are still some missing, like his incomparable Russlan). So,
in the Western conscience, he's a contemporary of, say, Siepi or
Ghiaurov.
PK
Lars Henriksson
Indeed the same. I've heard the 1940 (I think) Bolshoi Faust with
Koslovskij.
His tone I think I was a bit dry, and bordering on gritty, although not as
much so as Christoff, I think.
The first thing that came into my mind when I heard Reizen was Christoff,
but not flawed.
Yes, it seems that we disagree quite a bit!
--
Lars Henriksson, Sweden
opera singer, pianist
la...@hotmail.com
PK <pro...@cybercable.fr> skrev i
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PK
The Faust is from 1948. And I don't know of any greater Mephisto, in any
language. Compare the Borises. Reizen's sound "dry and gritty"? Must be
the cassette, or your equipment, or whatever. This is the fullest,
deepest, roundest, biggest basso sound that ever has been (and this
includes Pinza, who gives me reactions bordering on the sexual, and
Ghiaurov, of which I'm a very, very big fan - from his earlier years, of
course; and it's also a not-nearly-so-big Christoff's fan speaking).
We do disagree, that's evident. Means, we don't hear the same things.
Funny nobody seems to have mentioned Kurt Moll here, and not much
Talvela either (the greatest Commendatore ever).
PK
Hans Christian Hoff
"PK" <pro...@cybercable.fr> wrote:
>
> Funny nobody seems to have mentioned Kurt Moll here, and not much
> Talvela either (the greatest Commendatore ever).
Or Georg Hann, whose vocal endowment was at least as great as that of
Gottlob Frick, or
Matti Salminen.
I should also like to mention Giovanni Foiani, who has a.f.i.k not appeared
in big roles on commercial recordings (if he has, I should very much like to
be told about it), but give proofs of a voice of rare beauty in many minor
parts (i.e. as Paolo in the Abbado Boccanegra).
Regards
Hans
wk...@my-deja.com
"Hans Christian Hoff" <hch...@c2i.net> wrote:
>I should also like to mention Giovanni Foiani, ...but give proofs of a
>voice of rare beauty in many minor parts (i.e. as Paolo in the Abbado
>Boccanegra).
Doesn't van Dam sing Paolo on that recording? I don't remember, but it
must be Foiani as Pietro.
Bill
--
William D. Kasimer
wk...@juno.com
Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and then
beat you with experience.
dtritter
he was an almost invisible comprimario, and i know nothing of him as a
principal singer [but then albert innaurato is a tireless promoter of
interwar singers unknown north of milano or south of palermo...the less
well known, the better they were...though of course, he never heard them
either, having been born in 1948]...
back to the sidney olympics...
best greetings
dan tritter
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Hans Christian Hoff
<wk...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8q57db$ee5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <Hynx5.2822$mq2....@news1.online.no>,
> "Hans Christian Hoff" <hch...@c2i.net> wrote:
>
> >I should also like to mention Giovanni Foiani, ...but give proofs of a
> >voice of rare beauty in many minor parts (i.e. as Paolo in the Abbado
> >Boccanegra).
>
> Doesn't van Dam sing Paolo on that recording? I don't remember, but it
> must be Foiani as Pietro.
>
Yes, indeed it is (to try to put up a pitiful explanation I have to say that I
wrote this from the PC at work, and took it from memory).
Regards
Hans
Jorge Luis Castillo
Carlo for EMI
Richard Kummins
greatest basses - the 2 Ludwigs - Hofmann and Weber.
I am getting used to the complete disregard of my favorite singer (Ludwig
Hofmann) because it seems to happen all the time, but I thought Weber was at
least a little bit remembered by this group.
Shame on all of you.
Weber was the greatest Gurnemanz you are ever likely to hear, and the only
place where he seems to be uncomfortable is the recent BORIS excerpts from
1938.
Hofmann was also superb in the Wagner repertoire - check out the
Koch/Schwann Wiener Staatsoper series, also the complete Met 1936
GOTTERDAMMERUNG, and the LOHENGRIN from 1937. He is also heard as a
completely frightening Commendatore in a 1951 (age 60!) Hamburg DON GIOVANNI
with Schoffler and Kunz.
And I want to put in a plug for a personal favorite - William Chapman, who
really was a baritone coerced into some of the basso repertoire at NYCO by
Julius Rudel. But he was a terrific Mefistofele - alas, only private
recordings of his performances exist.
Other Russian bassos you might explore:
Aleksandr Pirogov - a bit wild but totally committed and passionate.
Lev Sibiriakov
Mikhail Grishko - Ukranian
Boris Shtokolov - gorgeous voice
Vladimir Kastorsky
and one of our own:
Jerome Hines - sometimes a little wooly, but when he was on, he was great.
His recording of the "Devant la maison" from DAMNATION DE FAUST is still my
favorite
Regards,
Richard
PK
>
> In article <Hynx5.2822$mq2....@news1.online.no>,
> "Hans Christian Hoff" <hch...@c2i.net> wrote:
>
> >I should also like to mention Giovanni Foiani, ...but give proofs of a
> >voice of rare beauty in many minor parts (i.e. as Paolo in the Abbado
> >Boccanegra).
>
> Doesn't van Dam sing Paolo on that recording? I don't remember, but it
> must be Foiani as Pietro.
>
> --
> William D. Kasimer
> wk...@juno.com
> Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and then
> beat you with experience.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Absolutely, and a great one, too - probably the best.
PK
PK
>
> "PK" <pro...@cybercable.fr> wrote:
> >
> > Funny nobody seems to have mentioned Kurt Moll here, and not much
> > Talvela either (the greatest Commendatore ever).
>
> Or Georg Hann, whose vocal endowment was at least as great as that of
> Gottlob Frick, or
> Matti Salminen.
>
> I should also like to mention Giovanni Foiani, who has a.f.i.k not appeared
> in big roles on commercial recordings (if he has, I should very much like to
> parts (i.e. as Paolo in the Abbado Boccanegra).
>
>
> Hans
Foiani - a very beautiful voice indeed, if not very big - was one of the
last great comprimario basses (his biggest part on record being, I
think, Inquisitore on the Giulini Don Carlo, not as imposing, I'm
afraid, as he should have been - although, having the nice baritone of
Raimondi in front of him wasn't really a challenge), a race totally
extinct nowadays, since most comprimarii sing big parts.
PK
PK
Did somebody mention Kim Borg, who has died recently, a fabulous artist?
PK
AC
Mefestofele produced by the NYC City Opera in 1969. I was there.
Rayme took over the role when Treigle died.
I have not been able to find a recording of him and wonder if anyone out
there might be able to recommend a site where such could be obtained.
The voice and the performance was stunning and unforgettable.
AC
"Credo Quia Absurdum Est"
AC
his done right before the war.
Leonard Tillman
I've read in quite a few months! You have collectively mentioned most ,
if not all, of my favorite bassos , and some favorite bass-baritones of
all time!! Many fond aural memories in these screenfuls. I must say ,
though, that were I have to choose ONLY, -just ONLY - ONE of these
superhuman voices to hear, it would still be the immortal one of Ezio
Pinza--- with Ghiaurov a close second with a similar appeal , though
different sound - of course! AND , for bass-baritones, Van Dam, who
,IMO, has a quality of tone much like Ghiaurov - despite the difference
in category! I hope the poster
who started this thread has a grand time exploring recordings of the
various singers mentioned ( or at least, as many as he'll be able to
find)!! tapefanatic
Tom Hamilton
Leonard Tillman <tapef...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:20964-39...@storefull-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Thank you Leonard Tillman. I posted the original Basso item and mentioned
only one name. The New Zealand Basso
OSCAR NATZKE.
Be well:
Tom Hamilton
Enrique Eskenazi
<too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Some suggestions, in alphabetical order:
> James Morris.
IMO Morris is more a bariton, or bass-baritone at best, than a real basso...
> Rene Pape.
> Peter Rose.
Who is Peter Rose? Haven't heard him...
Regards
---
Enrique
eske...@teleline.es
Enrique Eskenazi
(Cfehlandt) wrote:
>If it's bassi profundi you fancy, I would defintely recommend Jose Mardones
(I
>believe there's a Pearl CD available). Rosa Ponselle said he had the
greatest
>bass voice she ever heard.
>
There is a very good CD transfer on Aria Recordings as well... Not
necessarily a beautiful voice or a very refined singing, but a great dark
instrument.
>
>PS: Frick and Neri are also examples of this breed.
Nazareno de Angelis. Tancredi Passero. A great dark instrument (somewhat
wild, though) is the voice of Paata Burchuladze. During the last Liceu's Don
Carlos, the role of Filippo was sung by Scandiuzzi with Burchuladze as
Inquisitore in some performances, and in the others Burchuladze was Filippo
while a quite horrible bass (IMO), Anisimov, was the Inquisitor. Scandiuzzi
is an able singer, but I was much more moved by Burchuladze's Filippo. Not
to mention his frightening Inquisitor!
Regards
---
Enrique
eske...@teleline.es
Enrique Eskenazi
>in big roles on commercial recordings (if he has, I should very much like
to
>be told about it), but give proofs of a voice of rare beauty in many minor
>parts (i.e. as Paolo in the Abbado Boccanegra).
A rather underestimated basso, but who in my experience was thrilling,
throwing dark columns of macize sound, was Bonaldo Giaiotti.
Regards
---
Enrique
eske...@teleline.es
Enrique Eskenazi
tapef...@webtv.net (Leonard Tillman) wrote:
> I must say ,
>though, that were I have to choose ONLY, -just ONLY - ONE of these
>superhuman voices to hear, it would still be ...
Well, isn't it a luck not having to choose???
Regards
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Enrique
eske...@teleline.es
Lis K. Froding
"Enrique Eskenazi" <eske...@teleline.es> wrote:
>In article <8q44m7$li$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>, Lis K. Froding
><too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>Some suggestions, in alphabetical order:
>> James Morris.
>IMO Morris is more a bariton, or bass-baritone at best, than a real basso...
That's probably true. The funny thing is that he's listed as a bass in
the Met brochures.
>> Peter Rose.
>
>Who is Peter Rose? Haven't heard him...
Peter Rose is from Canterbury, England. Has a wonderful voice and is becoming
quite well known to New York audiences. This season he'll sing Daland and Ochs
at the Met. Last season he sang Ramfis there. He has also performed in
concert performances in various masses and oratorio. A program bio I'm
looking at shows an extensive list of roles he has sung in numerous places.
I don't know his age, but estimate he may be around 40. He was the principal
bass at the Welsh National Opera from 1986 to 1989.
Lis
AC
That or my posts are doomed to go unaswered.
Matthew B. Tepper
221.iap.bryant.webtv.net>:
>Ah me, what a pity... it seems no one has heard of Norman Treigale.
>
>That or my posts are doomed to go unaswered.
Yes, I have heard of Treigle, and remember fondly an unusual Hollywood Bowl
concert which was all-"Don Quixote"; Telemann's suite, Richard Strauss'
tone poem (with the LA Philharmonic's Kurt Reher as principal cellist), the
Ibert songs and the last act of Massenet's _Don Quichotte_ sung by Treigle;
Edo de Waart conducted. Treigle's encores were "Vous qui faite l'endormie"
from Gounod's _Faust_ and the spiritual "Sometimes I feel like a motherless
child." What a big voice, what a remarkable presence and beauty of tone
from that man.
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I should also draw your attention to Kwangchul Yun, who stepped in for
Scandiuzzi in Berlin, last March, to sing a fabulous Bertram in Robert
le Diable.
PK
Hans Christian Hoff
"Lis K. Froding" <too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:8qbti6$uv7$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> In article <8qbe54$2u$1...@talia.mad.ttd.net>,
> "Enrique Eskenazi" <eske...@teleline.es> wrote:
>
> >In article <8q44m7$li$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>, Lis K. Froding
> ><too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >>Some suggestions, in alphabetical order:
> >> James Morris.
>
> >IMO Morris is more a bariton, or bass-baritone at best, than a real basso...
>
> That's probably true. The funny thing is that he's listed as a bass in
> the Met brochures.
>
> >> Peter Rose.
> >
> >Who is Peter Rose? Haven't heard him...
>
> Peter Rose is from Canterbury, England. Has a wonderful voice and is becoming
> quite well known to New York audiences. This season he'll sing Daland and
Ochs
> at the Met. Last season he sang Ramfis there. He has also performed in
> concert performances in various masses and oratorio. A program bio I'm
> looking at shows an extensive list of roles he has sung in numerous places.
> I don't know his age, but estimate he may be around 40. He was the principal
> bass at the Welsh National Opera from 1986 to 1989.
>
He is also the Osmin on the new Mackerras Entführung, and was highly acclaimed
for
his Marke in lst years (Eaglen/Heppner) Seattle Tristan.
Regards
Hans
Leonard Tillman
seem to recall responding in agreement - Natzke's basso-profundo was an
incredible one of a quality too seldom found! But this letter of mine
that you've reproduced was in response to ELDRED, a student who started
THIS CURRENT thread. He asked about great bassos to listen to and
study---which led to MANY of us mentioning many bassos of the past and
present!! - all of them great in their unique ways!! Of course, the one
bass you mentioned, Natzke, should be included among these if he was not
already mentioned. Best , tapefanatic (Leonard Tillman)
AC
simply fly off into cyber space to be seen only by inhabitants of the
stars.
Treigle's stage presence was astonishing. Rail thin and rolling across
the stage, a first I am sure. Athletic is not the word. All this whilst
producing a heavenly (devilish) sound so unexpected by people used to
the singing Russian bears.
It's after all not the chest cavity, but the breathing and the structure
and use of the mouth that produces that produces such resonant sounds.
As I said, I do wish I had a recording of this singular and greatly
missed artist, who died so young.
Charles S. Lipson, M.D.
voice dictated by the score.
AC wrote:
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The people never give up their liberties
but under some delusion.
Edmund Burke
dtritter
siepi, nobody before or since has been in that league.
dft
Commspkmn
siepi, nobody before or since has been in that league. >>
Treigle is wonderful, indeed. But I also like Ghiaurov in the 1966 Carnegie
Hall concert performance.
Nazzareno de Angelis is also wonderful on the 1931 La Scala recording.
Ken Meltzer
Charles S. Lipson
to me last season in Mefistofele. However, for really great basso
singing, coloratura at that, listen to Ramey in the Erato L'Italiana in
Algieri with Horne and Battle.
dtritter wrote:
> try treigle in the title role of the emi "mefistofele"...other than
> siepi, nobody before or since has been in that league.
>
> dft
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