What the HELL has gotten into Pavarotti? he is a womanizer now?
Peter Kamilakis
"Superstar tenor Luciano Pavarotti says he has fallen in
love with his 26-year old secretary, and relations with his
wife are "delicate", according to the Italian gossip
magazine Chi.
The weekly magazine published photographs of Pavarotti, 60,
and Nicoletta Mantovani while they were vacationing in
Barbados this month. The pictures show the celebrated
tenor and Mantovani strolling arm-in-arm, swimming and
kissing on the beach.
'Nicoletta is a young girl like all the others I have. She
is one of my team,' Pavarotti is quoted as telling Chi.
But he added 'Nicoletta and I are very happy and it shows.
Hiding or denying it would be a crime.'
If this is true, any respect that I may have had for this
man is now gone.
pnk
a...@enter.net
In Marilyn Horne's autobiography she recounts a story about Pavarotti
calling her after a televised performance. He stated, "Jackie, you looked
so beautiful tonight...so fuckable." What a pig.
Slan Drun
says...
[...]
>'Nicoletta is a young girl like all the others I have. She
>is one of my team,' Pavarotti is quoted as telling Chi.
>But he added 'Nicoletta and I are very happy and it shows.
> Hiding or denying it would be a crime.'
>
>If this is true, any respect that I may have had for this
>man is now gone.
>
>pnk
What's wrong with being in love? Or do you interpret the "... like all
the others I have" as "... like all the others I sleep with?" I don't
think the latter interpretation is correct. The original quotation sounds
like Pavarotti implied "in my entourage". In italian you often omit the
last part, because (he thought) it was obvious. Besides, even if
the former interpretation was correct, paying attention to Chi is like
believing the Weekly World News.
Anyway, it is no mistery that Pavarotti always liked women. The nice
thing, I believe, is that he really falls in love quite often, he is not
the one night stand kind of guy. And I like him also because he has the
guts to admit it publicly.
Take it easy
SD
pyo...@argonet.co.uk
> As reported in Virginia's Richmond Times Dispatch today:
> "Superstar tenor Luciano Pavarotti says he has fallen in
> love with his 26-year old secretary, and relations with his
> wife are "delicate", according to the Italian gossip
> magazine Chi.
This news broke in the UK on the weekend of his performance at Manchester,
a concert I attended on the 30th September 1995...
Pavarotti was marvellous. A great performance, unfortunately no
Nessun dorma and no sign of the difficulties that beset him in November
at the Met.
They talked of Adua claiming $80 million of his $100 million fortune...
they say he was happy with that!
After that all went quiet.... I thought it must be all over. I must
admit to having concern over what it would do to his voice. But then
thought it's his life. Selfishly I just hope that it doesn't harm his
ability to keep on performing.
Peter
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such a transition. John Shirley Quirk, for example, began a new clarity
and strength as a result of his happy marriage and new child ( a few
years ago).
Peter Kamilakis
I must
>admit to having concern over what it would do to his voice.
Not to be offensive, but this sounds like something Luciano
would say, since he is a proponent of all sorts of wacky
beliefs about his voice and sickness. However, he's the
one with a 100 million dollar fortune (is that all, I
thought it would be more), and the 26-year old girlfriend,
and I would say that it has come his time for a few hard
knocks in life.
The one I worry about is Adua.
pnk
Sergio
For once I saw a very informative and entertaining TV report about Pavarotti's
private life and affairs.
His marriage was described as a link as strong as the cable that `secured'
the Italian satellite to the main spaceship in the recent NASA experiment.
In the background you could hear Pav singing the all too popular:
La donna e' mobile
qual piuma al vento ....
Just hilarious!
Cheers
Sergio
pyo...@argonet.co.uk wrote:
: Peter Kamilakis wrote:
: > As reported in Virginia's Richmond Times Dispatch today:
:
: > "Superstar tenor Luciano Pavarotti says he has fallen in
: > love with his 26-year old secretary, and relations with his
: > wife are "delicate", according to the Italian gossip
: > magazine Chi.
: This news broke in the UK on the weekend of his performance at Manchester,
: a concert I attended on the 30th September 1995...
: Pavarotti was marvellous. A great performance, unfortunately no
: Nessun dorma and no sign of the difficulties that beset him in November
: at the Met.
: They talked of Adua claiming $80 million of his $100 million fortune...
: they say he was happy with that!
: After that all went quiet.... I thought it must be all over. I must
: admit to having concern over what it would do to his voice. But then
Dan O'Driscoll
The one =I= worry about is his horse.
Dan.
Per alta vadi spatia sublimi aethere;
testare nullos esse, qua veheris, deos.
Medea [Seneca]
Karen Mercedes
dtritter
am confident that Mrs. P can take care of herself, as she has for a few
decades. Her spouse is not a newcomer to the amatory scene, and apart from
the physical grotesquerie of the scena, I am confident that this drama can
be played out without exciting our prurient interest. At the age of 60, Il
Supremo cannot be expected to improve his performance on or off stage. In
any event, there is a certainty that the sun will fulfill its usual rounds
tomorrow, without regard to the meanderings or philanderings of
Lucianissimo, Night we turn our attention to issues of war and peace?
dft
Dan O'Driscoll
reaches out for his horse.
Lighten up,
Dan.
Pete
: "Superstar tenor Luciano Pavarotti says he has fallen in
: love with his 26-year old secretary, and relations with his
: wife are "delicate", according to the Italian gossip
: magazine Chi.
: The weekly magazine published photographs of Pavarotti, 60,
: and Nicoletta Mantovani while they were vacationing in
: Barbados this month. The pictures show the celebrated
: tenor and Mantovani strolling arm-in-arm, swimming and
: kissing on the beach.
: If this is true, any respect that I may have had for this
: man is now gone.
Guys ... we're talking about a multi-millionaire jetset international
celebrity, with a serious management/publice relations machine fronting for
him, an ego the size of Chicago, and only a few years away from senility.
Did anybody really swallow that he should be nominated for Saint Luciano?
Its not like he got caught with his secretary, he just doesn't care anymore.
Mickey Mantle was a drunk and Pavorotti is a womanizer. Who cares except
the National Enquirer. If I was a family friend I'd feel differently
I'm sure, but I'm not .. so I don't give a damn what he does when he's
not singing.
He sure can sing!
Pete Levin
dtritter
I got spurs that jingle, jangle, jingle,
As I go ridin' merrily along.
An' they sing, oh ain't ya glad yer single,
An' that song ain't so very far from wrong."
Now I suggest that you ... all of you ... who ascribe statuary marble to
your figures of musical greatness ... examine the texture of the feet on
those statues. I have not a syllable of dismay to express concerning the
amatory appetites of various performers. I regard it as their own
business. I am only concerned with what they do when I pay money to
see/hear it. Some of the rumors repeated here on the net are [all
true][partially true][untrue], and some of it is substandard gossip.
If a rotund tenor with a worldwide reputation is tomcatting, or
transferring his affections to an extramarital destination, I submit that
to be his business, his wife's and the latterday destination of his
audibly expressed preference ... not yours ... not mine.
If I don't like his singing, I'll put on another disc, or tape, or attend
a different performance. The sun rose prior to the loss of Mr. Pavarotti's
virginity, and there's a slight chance that it may repeat its rounds
tomorrow. What the hell do I care where he shacks up? And to those of you
who deem it a matter of earth-shaking [no reference to avoirdupoids
intended] importance, I pity you that you have nothing better to occupy
your hours. I thought this was a newsgroup dedicated to opera.
dft
tnr
>business. I am only concerned with what they do when I pay money to
>intended] importance, I pity you that you have nothing better to occupy
>your hours. I thought this was a newsgroup dedicated to opera.
>
>dft
Bravo, dtritter. Your remarks are right on the mark. But don't we do the same, ie confuse public responsibility with private life, w=
hen it comes to how we judge our politicians? This is a deep failing that goes to the root of American culture. Our public figures, =
those we hold up for admiration, be they artists or lawmakers or whatever, must be saints in all respects. It speaks to our puritan =
roots and reflects itself in all aspects of our culture - right down to our foreign policy. You have touched upon a subject that goe=
s way beyond this opera newsgroup.
Sara Freeman
rwan...@popmail.med.nyu.edu (SissyMAg) writes:
>
>In article <4havtv$j...@cloner4.netcom.com>, Peter Kamilakis
><bere...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> One of the things that I like about opera,
>> (yes, it is a small point) is the general respectability of
>> its performers. I refer to people like Domingo, Carreras,
>> Milnes, Ramey, etc. Mostly current performers. It was
>> just a little disappointing to see Pavarotti committing
>> such a petty sin.
>>
>> pnk
>
>..um..I hate to burst your bubble about Carreras but it's fairly well
>known that he and Ricciarelli carried on for several years, WHILE HE
WAS
>MARRIED!! Can you imagine?! Quel scandale!
>Let's get real, though, opera singers are human just like the rest of
us;
>there's no reason to put them on pedestals. They are vulnerable to
all
>sorts "petty sins" and worse (as Ed Boxer points out).
And people like Carreras have got females literally following them all
over the world. I hear this one woman talk in particular about her
escapades. Of course, she didn't seem to get any further than having
her picture taken with him. The weird thing is that her husband stands
right by her while she talks about it. I think I'd either wail her ass
or hand her over to Carreras as a you-can-have-her-she's-not-good-
enough-for-me-prize.
Myself, I could never figure out what anybody sees in that guy. He
seems very stiff and uncharismatic.
Elizabeth Finkler
his makeup backstage during an Opera Company of Philadelphia
performance. It apparently was a fairly innocent "what are you doing
after the show?" inquiry (which was declined).
Liz
Peter Kamilakis
He made reference to Pavarotti's statement that he and
Nicoletta wanted to have a baby. Leno said "well that is
kind of good, because then they BOTH could eat for two!"
pnk
Anita Hsiung
:
: If this is true, any respect that I may have had for (Pavarotti)
: is now gone.
Unfortunately, the ability and skills that propel people into wealth
and fame are the same attributes that make them attractive. Sorry,
but even Martin Luther King, Jr. had affairs. But then, even people
who are not rich and famous have affairs. Who is to say that an opera
singer has to have higher moral standards than everyone else?
Pavarotti is still one of the best singers ever to grace this planet,
as King was one of our most influential orators and activists.
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temptation but that he was quoted as saying something to the effect that
(referring to his young secretary) "She is the current favorite in my
harem". I don't know how any woman could accept or defend that kind of
thinking.
Sara Freeman
concerned about his singing.
David Spence
: In <3187cc$e02a...@intrepid.cia.com> "Gyco Consulting Inc."
of the former critic Conrad Osborne, but he retired from writing for
the preponderance of ignorance on this level. Look up his review of
Pavarotti's old Cav/Pag recording in HiFidelity (a late 70's issue).
This tells a story, one which has all but completely come true with
this "artist" the past ten years.
What is singing without the ability to think or feel anything?
In Luciano's case, masturbation perhaps.
David d...@neosoft.com
D
:about his singing.
J. Michael Walker
> concerned about his singing.
> :What an insipid thing to say! I do not care whether oor not one knows
> of the former critic Conrad Osborne, but he retired from writing for
> the preponderance of ignorance on this level. Look up his review of
> Pavarotti's old Cav/Pag recording in HiFidelity (a late 70's issue).
> This tells a story, one which has all but completely come true with
> this "artist" the past ten years.
> What is singing without the ability to think or feel anything?
> In Luciano's case, masturbation perhaps.
>
> David d...@neosoft.com
> D
> :about his singing.
Very interesting. Could you please supply us for a reference for this
article. I would love to read it.
--Mike