child opera singers
Lis K. Froding
small roles in opera. For example Yniold in Pelleas et Melisande and the
three boys in the Magic Flute. Those aren't roles where the kids just have
to be there, they have to act and sing, in other words do what the adult
singers have to do.
I presume they start out in the chorus (I'm specifically referring to the
Met, which has a good sized children's chorus) and are picked out of the
crowd for various roles, but what happens when they grow up? Have some of
them become known as opera singers as adults?
Since they're already professionals to some degree as kids, one would think
it would be a logical path for many of them to pursue operatic careers as
adults, but I don't think I've ever heard of any adult opera singers who
started out in e.g. the Met Children's Chorus?
Any thoughts on this? Thanks,
Lis
Matthew B. Tepper
<9ab0ua$6vr$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>:
Cecilia Bartoli reportedly sang the role of the Shepherd in _Tosca_ when
she was nine years old.
David Hemmings, who recorded the role of (I think) Miles in Britten's _Turn
of the Screw_ (not sure if he sang the premiere, but I'm pretty sure he did
the recording) moved on to a notable career as actor on stage, in film, and
on television.
Aled Jones, a notable boy soprano of a couple of decades ago, apparently
has made a modest career as a singer.
I think there have been a few notable Austrian male opera and Lieder
singers who performed as children in the Wienerknabenchor.
In other words, it has been known to happen. It does not appear to be a
particularly common or predictable career path, however. And those who
perform with bad technique (such as jaw-wobbling) probably cash out early.
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sang child roles in and around Barcelona from about age 8. I have seen a
program of La Boheme from Barcelona in 1958, starring Renata Tebaldi and Gianni
Raimondi, where Carreras sings the part of the boy in act 2. He has told me how
well he recalls that Tebaldi was extremely nice to all the children in the
chorus.
Best,
Ed
Best,
Ed
Ed Rosen
sang child roles in and around Barcelona from about age 8. I have seen a
program of La Boheme from Barcelona in 1958, starring Renata Tebaldi and Gianni
Raimondi, where Carreras sings the part of the boy in act 2. He has told me how
well he recalls that Tebaldi was extremely nice to all the children in the
chorus.
Best,
Ed
Best,
Ed
Matthew B. Tepper
<3AC911C8...@earthlink.net>:
>One child singer that did pursue a career was none other than Jose
>Carreras. He sang child roles in and around Barcelona from about age 8.
>I have seen a program of La Boheme from Barcelona in 1958, starring
>Renata Tebaldi and Gianni Raimondi, where Carreras sings the part of the
>boy in act 2. He has told me how well he recalls that Tebaldi was
>extremely nice to all the children in the chorus.
I greatly enjoyed reading that!
Ian Michaud
> Cecilia Bartoli reportedly sang the role of the Shepherd in _Tosca_ when
> she was nine years old.
>
> David Hemmings, who recorded the role of (I think) Miles in Britten's _Turn
> of the Screw_ (not sure if he sang the premiere, but I'm pretty sure he did
> the recording) moved on to a notable career as actor on stage, in film, and
> on television.
>
> Aled Jones, a notable boy soprano of a couple of decades ago, apparently
> has made a modest career as a singer.
>
> I think there have been a few notable Austrian male opera and Lieder
> singers who performed as children in the Wienerknabenchor.
>
> In other words, it has been known to happen. It does not appear to be a
> particularly common or predictable career path, however. And those who
> perform with bad technique (such as jaw-wobbling) probably cash out early.
Another example is the Swedish baritone Urban Malmberg, who can be seen as one
of the three boys in the Bergman film of the Magic Flute. I believe he has a
busy career in Europe -- certainly in the late 80's he was a regular at the
Hamburg State Opera. We had him in Vancouver in 1989 as Malatesta in Don
Pasquale and he proved to be a fine singer, but with a voice a little too small
for the cavernous North American auditoriums.
NBPalmer1
>small roles in opera.
One rather good example is the British actor, David Hemmings (many films). He
began his performing career aged 12 as Miles in the premiere of Britten's opera
"The Turn of the Screw"
NICK/London
Anthony Ames
benjo maso
alto (mostly Bach) and became a well-known tenor.
Benjo Maso
"Lis K. Froding" <too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> schreef in bericht
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> custo...@earthlink.net (Ed Rosen) wrote in
> <3AC911C8...@earthlink.net>:
>
> >One child singer that did pursue a career was none other than Jose
> >Carreras. He sang child roles in and around Barcelona from about age 8.
> >I have seen a program of La Boheme from Barcelona in 1958, starring
> >Renata Tebaldi and Gianni Raimondi, where Carreras sings the part of the
> >boy in act 2.
If only he'd sung the Boy to James McCracken's Parpignol ...
Hans Lick
Mark D. Lew
(Divamanque)" <evg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Is Yniold written for a boy soprano? It's done by a woman
> in drag, on my video of it. ...And I think women are often
> used in "Flute", too, aren't they? (I know Menotti
> specifically WROTE Amahl for a "boy soprano", but I've heard
> that done by women, too.)
All of those roles are written for boy soprano, but of course you have to
cast the best person you can. A boy is preferable, but if no decent one is
available (as is often the case) then you have to look elsewhere.
mdl
Karen Mercedes
BORIS GODUNOV (when cast with a boy rather than a mezzo en travesti).
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Karen Mercedes
Mehta.
daniel f. tritter
pip in "miss havisham's fire" at nycopera, now a baritone out there
somewhere.
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> yet another, robert sapolsky who sang one of the knaben at the met, young
> pip in "miss havisham's fire" at nycopera, now a baritone out there
> somewhere.>
Right. And wasn't Kurt Equilux a Vienna Choirboy?
R.
Lis K. Froding
The Met has a young boy in the role. This season and last season it
was James Danner, who was very very good, btw.
Lis
Lis K. Froding
who go on to having an operatic career as adults, but not very many,
perhaps only slightly more than the population as a whole.
Why would that be? Why would not a much larger percentage pursue a
career in something they've already embarked on? It is the "been there,
done that" syndrome, or does a good voice as a child not necessarily
mean a good voice as an adult? Or have they been scared away by seeing
what the business of being an opera singer is "really" like? Or just
bored with it?
There are probably many reasons, but it still puzzles me that so
relatively few pursue the career as an adult.
Any other explanations why?
Lis
Matthew B. Tepper
I can think of a few:
The "stakes" are higher and the competition is tough.
They prefer to pursue other careers.
The voice changes at puberty and is no longer as interesting.
Odious influences of peer pressure and the media dun them with messages
that classical music and opera are bad, and they fall for this crap.
REG
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Ivrys88
<<It seems from the responses so far that there are a few child singers
who go on to having an operatic career as adults, but not very many,
perhaps only slightly more than the population as a whole.
Why would that be?>>
My guess is that the general reasons might be similar to the reasons why so few
child film stars make successful transitions to adult stardom.
Speaking from personal anecdotal experience, as an undergraduate music student
I worked with a baritone who had appeared on the stage of the Met as a child
singer. His adult voice, however, was of no particular distinction, sadly.
sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il
: Why would that be? Why would not a much larger percentage pursue a
: done that" syndrome, or does a good voice as a child not necessarily
: mean a good voice as an adult? Or have they been scared away by seeing
: what the business of being an opera singer is "really" like? Or just
: bored with it?
It varies from case to case. When I was in high school, I had a friend
who had sung the title role in "Oliver!" (professionally), and who still
had a remarkable voice even after it changed. He didn't continue as a
professional because he just didn't enjoy the parts of being a professional
singer that didn't actually involve singing. As others have pointed out,
there's no guarantee when a boy's voice changes that it will be as good
as it was when he was a soprano.
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Lis K. Froding
<sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>In article <9adkiu$r4h$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>, Lis K. Froding
<too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>: Why would that be? Why would not a much larger percentage pursue a
>: career in something they've already embarked on? It is the "been there,
>: done that" syndrome, or does a good voice as a child not necessarily
>: mean a good voice as an adult? Or have they been scared away by seeing
>: what the business of being an opera singer is "really" like? Or just
>: bored with it?
>
>It varies from case to case. When I was in high school, I had a friend
>who had sung the title role in "Oliver!" (professionally), and who still
>had a remarkable voice even after it changed. He didn't continue as a
>professional because he just didn't enjoy the parts of being a professional
>singer that didn't actually involve singing. As others have pointed out,
>there's no guarantee when a boy's voice changes that it will be as good
>as it was when he was a soprano.
>
>-----
>Richard Schultz
It's interesting that the responses here have all referred to the voice
changing. Though I mentioned some boys' roles in my initial post, I didn't
intend to limit the discussion to boys. The girls sing too --- what about
their voices?
Lis
sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il
: It's interesting that the responses here have all referred to the voice
: changing. Though I mentioned some boys' roles in my initial post, I didn't
: intend to limit the discussion to boys. The girls sing too --- what about
: their voices?
Well, if you think about it, there isn't nearly as much music that calls
for a girl soprano solo as there is that calls for a boy soprano. So
you wouldn't expect too many girls (Charlotte Church being the exception
that proves the rule) making a living as singers in the first place. The
only girl I know personally who had that good of a voice (and is now a
moderately successful opera singer) was already in high school when I
knew her, so I don't know if that counts as a "child" opera singer.
Skip
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romain
"Skip" wrote
> One child singer who had an exceptional voice was Beverly Sills.>
Sills? She should have stayed in the chorus. Sills is no Charlotte Church,
Beav.
daniel f. tritter
romain wrote:
ah, sir bart, now you're in for it. if you thought gaaaaaaby [and his
reincarnations] worshipped the water frau strudel walks on, you ain't seen
nuthin' yet.
dft
Skip
BTW: Sills was never in a chorus...............
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romain
Skippy wrote
> Please, Charlotte Church couldn't wipe the ass of Sills......>
Really? C.C. is a very quick study. The hardest part would be pushing you
out of the way, eh?
R.
romain
> One child singer who had an exceptional voice was Beverly Sills.<
As a neck whistler she was in a class all by herself, eh?
R.
Skip
Skip
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> OH please Danny-poo, get over yourself.
skippikens is plainly in search of a men's room wall. volunteer providers,
please line up on the right. bring your "rinso white" recordings with you.
Skip
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daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> Now you would know about men's room walls.......
where else would i read your collected writings?
Skip
I think you're confusing me with your sister Ball less Bollman (alias
ancona/alias 10+ others)news:3ACB72FE...@bway.net...
REG
70s and through to the end (and past the end, a bit unfortunately), but I
found her a wonderful musician, to me a lovely silvery voice,
extraordinarily expressive with remarkable breath control. Minuses obviously
were the wobble that developed in mid career and got worse, and I think
stylistically the constant resort to upper options can get tiresome - it was
obviously done to emphasize where the voice had its greatest strength and
color, but becomes mechanical in use at times. On records, I find her often
remarkable, even late, and I wonder where one can hear a finder "Ah, dolce
guidami", other than my own renditions in the shower. The coloratura was
IMHO in a class of its own (as was Big Joan's, in a different (not worse))
way.
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Mark D. Lew
<too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> There are probably many reasons, but it still puzzles me that so
> relatively few pursue the career as an adult.
That's odd. I drew an entirely different conclusion. I suppose
"relatively few" cannot be quantified except in relation to what one
intuitively expects. To me it seemed like the examples we gave here showed
a relatively high correlation.
Consider that the number of professional opera singers in the world is such
a small group to begin with (well under 0.1% of the population), and the
number of children who sing at the professional level is smaller yet. If
there were zero correlation, then the incidence of individuals who sang
opera both as child and adult would be the product of those two
percentages, which is to say virtually non-existent.
Instead, we have about a dozen examples cited here already -- and that's
only including the ones who are famous enough that someone here has heard
about their career at both ages. If you expand to include anyone who has
sung a little bit of opera at each level, then there will be a lot more. I
know five or six singers who have middling careers at the lower levels who
did some sort of classical singing as prepubescents. (I also once knew a
conductor who had been a boy soprano.)
mdl
nicolas coppola
Amahl and Miles and possibly Yniold with the City Opera during the late
'60s. He had very good notices and press, years later I saw him
again,now an adult, singing a small role with the Bronx Opera. Since the
start of this discussion,I've been trying to recall his name..anybody
else remember this talented lad?
Skip
voice really was.
Far from a small voice.......
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Don't you EVER pick up a cat by the tail again!
Lis K. Froding
<sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>In article <9aego8$kic$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net>, Lis K. Froding
<too...@ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>: It's interesting that the responses here have all referred to the voice
>: changing. Though I mentioned some boys' roles in my initial post, I didn't
>: intend to limit the discussion to boys. The girls sing too --- what about
>: their voices?
>
>Well, if you think about it, there isn't nearly as much music that calls
>for a girl soprano solo as there is that calls for a boy soprano.
Yes, I have thought about that, but there are plenty of girls in the chorus.
They sing and perform too and grow up as well.
Lis
romain
"REG" > Romain - Why don't you like Sills? . . . snip>
She was just another neck whistler, heavily promoted from childhood. Believe
me, she's no Charlotte Church.
R.
romain
"nicolas coppola" wrote,
Robert Sapolsky?
Valfer
the cast and to the children of her colleagues.
Four boy sopranos who later made it big:
Franz Joseph Haydn
Franz Schubert
Gaetano Donizetti
Enrico Caruso
I leave the castrati out of this, not to make an "empty" argument.
I believe Peter Mark, CEO of the Virginia Opera, sang boy soprano roles at
the Met. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Valfer
"Ed Rosen" <custo...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> One child singer that did pursue a career was none other than Jose
Carreras. He
> sang child roles in and around Barcelona from about age 8. I have seen a
> program of La Boheme from Barcelona in 1958, starring Renata Tebaldi and
Gianni
> Raimondi, where Carreras sings the part of the boy in act 2. He has told
me how
> well he recalls that Tebaldi was extremely nice to all the children in the
> chorus.
>
> Best,
> Ed
>
> Best,
> Ed
>
> "Lis K. Froding" wrote:
>
> > I've often wondered what happens to kids who sing small or perhaps not
so
> > small roles in opera. For example Yniold in Pelleas et Melisande and
the
> > three boys in the Magic Flute. Those aren't roles where the kids just
have
> > to be there, they have to act and sing, in other words do what the adult
> > singers have to do.
> >
> > I presume they start out in the chorus (I'm specifically referring to
the
> > Met, which has a good sized children's chorus) and are picked out of the
> > crowd for various roles, but what happens when they grow up? Have some
of
> > them become known as opera singers as adults?
> >
> > Since they're already professionals to some degree as kids, one would
think
> > it would be a logical path for many of them to pursue operatic careers
as
> > adults, but I don't think I've ever heard of any adult opera singers who
> > started out in e.g. the Met Children's Chorus?
> >
> > Any thoughts on this? Thanks,
> > Lis
>
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> Danny Dearest,
> I think you're confusing me with your sister Ball less Bollman (alias
> ancona/alias 10+ others)
> "daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
> news:3ACB72FE...@bway.net...
> >
> >
> > Skip wrote:
> >
> > > Now you would know about men's room walls.......
> >
> > where else would i read your collected writings?
> >
> > dft
no skippikens, illiteracy speaks for itself, and yours is identifiable at
a glance, an emetic of giant proportions.
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> Danny Dearest,
> I think you're confusing me with your sister Ball less Bollman (alias
> ancona/alias 10+ others)
> "daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
> news:3ACB72FE...@bway.net...
> >
> >
> > Skip wrote:
> >
> > > Now you would know about men's room walls.......
> >
> > where else would i read your collected writings?
> >
> > dft
no skippikens, illiteracy speaks for itself, and yours is identifiable at
a glance, an emetic of giant proportions.
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> Danny Dearest,
> I think you're confusing me with your sister Ball less Bollman (alias
> ancona/alias 10+ others)
> "daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
> news:3ACB72FE...@bway.net...
> >
> >
> > Skip wrote:
> >
> > > Now you would know about men's room walls.......
> >
> > where else would i read your collected writings?
> >
> > dft
no skippikens, illiteracy speaks for itself, and yours is identifiable at
a glance, an emetic of giant proportions.
daniel f. tritter
years old in the spring of 1979, when he just squeezed in young pip [miss
havisham's fire, nycopera] 10 seconds before his voice changed. it was touch
and go!
dft
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Skip
they make them is smaller sizes.news:3ACC72CE...@bway.net...
Skip
Skip
So sorry the viagra isn't working, maybe you should try a pump, don't worry,
Skip
Matthew B. Tepper
Haydn's soprano voice was so good that certain people wanted to, well, keep
it that way. Fortunately he escaped with everything still in place.
val...@msn.com (Valfer) wrote in <#mJ5SSHvAHA.300@cpmsnbbsa07>:
>I also have heard from several sources how nice Tebaldi was to children
>in the cast and to the children of her colleagues.
>
>Four boy sopranos who later made it big:
>Franz Joseph Haydn
>Franz Schubert
>Gaetano Donizetti
>Enrico Caruso
>
>I leave the castrati out of this, not to make an "empty" argument.
>
>I believe Peter Mark, CEO of the Virginia Opera, sang boy soprano roles
>at the Met. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>
>Valfer
>
>
>"Ed Rosen" <custo...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:3AC911C8...@earthlink.net...
>> One child singer that did pursue a career was none other than Jose
>> Carreras. He sang child roles in and around Barcelona from about age 8.
>> I have seen a program of La Boheme from Barcelona in 1958, starring
>> Renata Tebaldi and Gianni Raimondi, where Carreras sings the part of the
>> boy in act 2. He has told me how well he recalls that Tebaldi was
>> extremely nice to all the children in the chorus.
>>
>> Best,
>> Ed
>>
>> "Lis K. Froding" wrote:
>>
>> > I've often wondered what happens to kids who sing small or perhaps not
>> > so small roles in opera. For example Yniold in Pelleas et Melisande
>> > and the three boys in the Magic Flute. Those aren't roles where the
>> > kids just have to be there, they have to act and sing, in other words
>> > do what the adult singers have to do.
>> >
>> > I presume they start out in the chorus (I'm specifically referring to
>> > the Met, which has a good sized children's chorus) and are picked out
>> > of the crowd for various roles, but what happens when they grow up?
>> > Have some of them become known as opera singers as adults?
>> >
>> > Since they're already professionals to some degree as kids, one would
>> > think it would be a logical path for many of them to pursue operatic
>> > careers as adults, but I don't think I've ever heard of any adult
>> > opera singers who started out in e.g. the Met Children's Chorus?
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on this? Thanks,
>> > Lis
--
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> So sorry the viagra isn't working, maybe you should try a pump, don't worry,
> they make them is smaller sizes.
i assume you're offering yours.
sorry, i think that a rather unsanitary [and rather nauseating] suggestion.
now go back behind the barn and resume playing with yourself.
Skip
farm..............
P.S. I wouldn't offer you shit if you were starving...........or maybe I
would, after all, it's a taste you're used to.
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daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> At least I play with myself, and not the sheep like you did on your
> farm..............
>
> P.S. I wouldn't offer you shit if you were starving...........or maybe I
> would, after all, it's a taste you're used to.
gee skippy, that's a pity. no, i have long been on a restricted diet, and you
now suggest that you will now have a surplus. but i'm sure you'll be
delighted to eat it yourself, a diet with which you appear long familiar. and
remember, coloring it green, as you seem to enjoy, will not hide the reality;
even your sheep know that. you have not acquainted yourself with my
biography. i have always been a resident of large cities. my sexual activity,
to your consternation, has always been confined to conventional acts with
female persons. it may be that such practice, as most societal conduct, has
escaped your ken.
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> At least I play with myself, and not the sheep like you did on your
> farm..............
>
> P.S. I wouldn't offer you shit if you were starving...........or maybe I
> would, after all, it's a taste you're used to.
gee skippy, that's a pity. no, i have long been on a restricted diet, and you
now suggest that you will now have a surplus. but i'm sure you'll be
delighted to eat it yourself, a diet with which you appear long familiar. and
remember, coloring it green, as you seem to enjoy, will not hide the reality;
even your sheep know that. you have not acquainted yourself with my
biography. i have always been a resident of large cities. my sexual activity,
to your consternation, has always been confined to conventional acts with
female persons. it may be that such practice, as most societal conduct, has
escaped your ken.
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> At least I play with myself, and not the sheep like you did on your
> farm..............
>
> P.S. I wouldn't offer you shit if you were starving...........or maybe I
> would, after all, it's a taste you're used to.
gee skippy, that's a pity. no, i have long been on a restricted diet, and you
now suggest that you will now have a surplus. but i'm sure you'll be
delighted to eat it yourself, a diet with which you appear long familiar. and
remember, coloring it green, as you seem to enjoy, will not hide the reality;
even your sheep know that. you have not acquainted yourself with my
biography. i have always been a resident of large cities. my sexual activity,
to your consternation, has always been confined to conventional acts with
female persons. it may be that such practice, as most societal conduct, has
escaped your ken.
Skip
program... Do you always have to post things in triplicates.........
Sorry Danny boy, green is your favorite color, such as in the name
Greenough..........
Such a shame rita never hit the stardom that beverly did.......
Now back to the mens room, and find something to eat.
"daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
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Skip
world........
Getting a little homophobic in your prune years?news:3ACCA11A...@bway.net...
>
>
> Skip wrote:
>
> > At least I play with myself, and not the sheep like you did on your
> > farm..............
> >
> > P.S. I wouldn't offer you shit if you were starving...........or maybe I
> > would, after all, it's a taste you're used to.
Andre Edouard
AE
daniel f. tritter
his men's room perch is the most ghastly fate one could suffer, with the
possible exception of having to endure another bout of mrs. greenough cackling
"lucky to be me." on pbs offerings. it's enough to make one yearn for charlotte
church.
skippy, wipe your nose.
dft
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Skip vomited [and we all agreed he had good cause]:
Skip
Please I'd rather invite rita...........
"daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
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Skip
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> Please don't flatter yourself, invite you to the men's room?
> Please I'd rather invite rita...........
>
and as a lady of good manners and good taste [strangers to hapless and
illiterate little skippy], the notion is nauseating beyond endurance. leave us.
you smell.
daniel f. tritter
Skip wrote:
> Cackling? What does rita do, crow?
> "daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
no, has the happy circumstance of never having known bubbles' sycophantic
cesspool-dwelling little skippy. let's keep it that way. she also has the good
sense not to make a fool of herself in public. try it, if you can.
Skip
"daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
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Skip
You mean they let her out now?
"daniel f. tritter" <dtri...@bway.net> wrote in message
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REG
romain <jeanchr...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "REG" > Romain - Why don't you like Sills? . . . snip>
>
> She was just another neck whistler, heavily promoted from childhood.
Believe
> me, she's no Charlotte Church.
> R.
>
>
REG
really wish that whatever attacks occur in this ng, that there weren't
attacks on people's loved ones...it really is one thing for any of us to
suffer "the slings and arrows" in the ng, and another to see those close to
us attacked. It really is very different for Dan to take after Sills for
whatever reason (and I totally disagree with him and Romain on that
evaluation) and another to respond by going after his wife. I've seen this
happen a number of times in this group (I'm not saying from you, but from
others) about family and loved ones, and I really wish it was a rule of the
ng that those things were off limits. I wish you could retract that stuff,
cause it just isn't right.
Skip <!sk...@nospam.com.nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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Skip
for pointing this out.
"REG" <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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dtritter
Oisk17
>Well taken Reg. I agree, and I do apologize to Ms. Shane and to Dan. Thanks
>for pointing this out.
Well done, Skip! I hope you receive an appropriate response from Dan.
Best regards,
Paul
Matthew B. Tepper
>blessed are the peacemakers...
>
>dft
Does that extend to all manufacturers of dairy products?
Anthony Ames
-Anthony
Skip
"Oisk17" <ois...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Skip
dtritter
"Matthew B. Tepper" wrote:
>
> dtri...@bway.net (dtritter) wrote in <3ACD3BB7...@bway.net>:
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> >blessed are the peacemakers...
> >
> >dft
>
> Does that extend to all manufacturers of dairy products?
>
>
o, blessed child, may i touch you?
not during passover or holy week.
Matthew B. Tepper
>
>"Matthew B. Tepper" wrote:
>>
>> dtri...@bway.net (dtritter) wrote in <3ACD3BB7...@bway.net>:
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>> >blessed are the peacemakers...
>> >
>> >dft
>>
>> Does that extend to all manufacturers of dairy products?
>>
>>
>o, blessed child, may i touch you?
>
>not during passover or holy week.
Wewease Bwian!
Ancona21
"He has a wife, you know. Do you know what she's called?"
Anconicus
Matthew B. Tepper
mn1.aol.com>:
><< Wewease Bwian! >>
>
>"He has a wife, you know. Do you know what she's called?"
>
>Anconicus
Incontinentia Buttocks?
REG
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Matthew B. Tepper
it." And Biggus Dickus was the name of Pilate's vewy gweat fwiend in Wome.
I've always found the funniest name in the movie to be Nortius Maximus, the
fake name that Brian's father used so he couldn't be traced later. Sillius
Soddus is another.
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Matthew B. Tepper
297.iap.bryant.webtv.net>:
>Does anyone remember "La Piccolissima"?
Was she anything like Lena Zavaroni?
Leonard Tillman
Felix Unger (real-life buff Tony Randall) proclaims his having been the
only "child heldentenor" ?....as I recall no one challenged him on that,
- but is such a prodigy a POSSIBILITY?
Best, LT
"Actions may speak louder than words---BUT are they saying what we
THINK they're saying?" "And furthermore, how's a fella supposed to
handle problems one at a time - when they REFUSE to get in line??"