Si vendetta
Jeffrey
What is the note - C? IMO Sutherland nailed it the best.
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Jeffrey
Steve Silverman
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> Is the top note that is sung by most sopranos at the end in the score?
> What is the note - C? IMO Sutherland nailed it the best.
It's an unwritten Eb. One of the highlights of my opera-going career
occurred a few years ago at Covent Garden when Anna Netrebko was singing
Gilda opposite Paolo Gavanelli and sang the high Eb. The volume and weight
of the note astonished me, I didn't know she had it in her. Yet eighteen
months ago she studiously avoided the same note at the end of "Sempre
libera" when performing Violetta in the same house. My disappointment was
so great I temporarily forgot that I don't like high notes.
Steve Silverman
mysterytenor
And I love high notes, but the omission of the Eb to end "Sempre
libera" never bothered me, strange to say. Many, many great Violettas
simply do not have that note, so I certainly couldn't expect them to
sing it. I believe Netrebko's Eb's are becoming a thing of the past,
as she avoided both of them this season in most Lucia performances at
the Met, including the simulcast that will be a DVD soon.
I am perhaps one of a few that love Ponselle's rather "gutsy"
Violetta, but certainly no Eb was forthcoming from her. For me,
Tebaldi, especially after the Sempre libera, sang the most gorgeous
Violetta possible in her prime years. Not only no Eb, but, as with
Ponselle, a transposition of the Sempre libera. Albanese was one of
the Met's leading Violetta performers for 20 years, starting in 1941,
and she also did not possess a high Eb. When Caballe first sang
Traviata at the Met ( I think it was her only run of this role at the
Met) on opening night, 1967, with Tucker and MacNeil, her singing was
simply gorgeous, at the very peak of her powers- but no Eb.
I guess, for the most part, it is usually the "coloratura" Violetta
performers that sing a high Eb, such as Gruberova, Devia, etc..
However, many of them are really not right for the remainder of the
opera, where a lyric-spinto soprano is called for.
Moffo, one of the Met's leading Violettas, sang the Eb for the first 6
or 7 years that she did the role, and than stopped singing it. I was
in a minority, but never thought of her as a great Violetta. Not
enough middle voice to do any justice to the final three acts, as it
was then performed.
Best,
Ed
Richergar
Socialized performing.
But don't feel that I'm putting down Britain. Pat's President is
getting rid of the US dollar.
On Jun 12, 9:08 am, "Steve Silverman" <ssilv...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve Silverman
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>
> Isn't it true that New Labour has gotten rid of high notes?
No, but they have imposed a tax rate of 60% on them. MPs however can claim
them on expenses.
Steve Silverman
Stephen Jay-Taylor
as she avoided both of them this season in most Lucia performances at
the Met,"
Zeani
wrote:
LAUREL HURLEY (with Warren) ended the "Si vendetta" with a
faaaaabullus E flat...brilliant......an underrated singer.....Peters,
Moffo,Gianna D'Angelo,Callas, Gencer are all WILD..Callas does a
fabulous scoooooop up to the note.....without it (as the Met these
days) you MISS so much....ch
mysterytenor
I can't really disagree, as I enjoy seeing opera at Covent Garden more
than at the Met. The smaller size makes everything better!
Ed
LT
Not to forget:
Bechi and Grani's recording, with GB's 'forever'-extended note '...
vindici avRAAAAAA....', and her participation. Unfortunate that they,
with a fitting cast of co-stars, didn't record the opera in complete
form.
Paul Ferraro
DonP.
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LT
*And* Warren/Berger; also, Warren/Robin, in SFO.
Best,
LT
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> One of the very best, along with Warren & Peters!
>
> DonP."LT" <LeonardT2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Paul Ferraro
mysterytenor
> Warren with Gueden/Sayao/Dobbs - no matter, so long as Rigo was Warren!"LT" <LeonardT2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
The longest, and best high Ab I have ever heard from a baritone at the
end of the Si! Vendetta duet was Cornell MacNeil. I heard him as
Rigoletto countless times when he was great (mostly in the 60's) and
he always held this huge note til the cows came home. However, there
is one performance that stands out in my mind. It was 1965-6 season,
and the Met debut of Alfredo Kraus, who sang the cabaletta with a
great high D. Perhaps Mac thought it was time to really show off, as
he sang this gorgeous, incredibly huge high Ab, and held it,
literally, until the orchestra stopped playing and the curtain was
down. The audience screamed!
MacNeil seemed to have an "overdrive" for high G's and Ab's, and his
big as his voice was, these notes just sort of "took off" in volume
into another level. You really had to be there. It was like nothing I
have ever heard at the opera before or since.
Best,
Ed
L T
And likewise Stracciari, with just about any leading soprano of his
day.... Fortunately, his Gilda, Capsir, was no vocal slouch herself, in
that classic '30 set.
Now.... just hypothetically -
What would be said about Ruffo, in this scene - IF his Gilda were....
let's say.... FF Jenkins??(!)
Best,
L. 'Just Wondering' T.
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Date: Sun, Jun 14, 2009, 4:22pm (PDT+7)
From: Paul Ferraro <donp...@verizon.net>
Warren with Gueden/Sayao/Dobbs - no matter, so long as Rigo was Warren!
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*And* Warren/Berger; also, Warren/Robin, in SFO.
Best,
LT
On Jun 14, 11:50 am, "Paul Ferraro" <donpao...@verizon.net> wrote:
One of the very best, along with Warren & Peters!
DonP.
"LT"
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On Jun 12, 11:32 pm, "Stephen Jay-Taylor" <sjaytay...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
"I believe Netrebko's Eb's are becoming a thing of the past, as she
avoided both of them this season in most Lucia performances at the Met,"
Two of them, loud and clear, in both the performances of I Capuleti e i
Montecchi I caught with her here in March/April. Clearly she'll still
give
it a go in actual opera houses as opposed to rocket assembly
buildings.......
SJT
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Paul Ferraro
Audience was all set for fireworks & they GOT them!
DonP.
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