James Jorden 'mocks' the meat he feeds on'
PrinceMyshkin
In article <6he6di$94h$1...@news.cybernex.net>, dkessl...@bc.cybernex.net
says...
>Even so, the Internal Revenue Service requires that a business entity
>show a profit once in a while before one can make a practice of charge
>everything off as a lifestyle loss.
Wrong again, Mr. Kessler. If it is an S corporation, sole proprietorship or
partnership, yes, it must show a profit in X out of Y years (consult your
accountant for X and Y) or it will be labeled a hobby and no expenses will be
deductible. If it is a C corporation, however, it can run at a loss forever.
g.f.
In article <6he6di$94h$1...@news.cybernex.net>,
daniel kessler <dkessl...@bc.cybernex.net> wrote:
>The ‘meat' in this case is the thing we all love so much--opera, with
>apologies to' the Bard', James Jorden mocks the very meat [opera] that he
>feeds on. Jorden is apparently incapable of making few if any serious
>posts these days, so busy is he hate mongering and verminating his sheets
>and towels with anal lubricants and using risky sexual behavior as a
>metaphor to describe opera performances [Malfitano stains the Carpet].
Oh come off it...all sexual behavior is risky, as your parents would
readily agree. And really, it's a probably more entertaining at this
point in all our review-reading careers to get a little more info
on crisco than we needed than to read another standard "Malfitano
coped ably with the tessitura, producing clarion tones" type
well-wrought review.
>‘in-your-face-confrontational' style gay-queer publication-- $28 each =
>$14,000 annually--hardly enough to sustain a life style in Manhattan.
>
For the record, gay-queer is not a terrifically literate turn of
phrase, but I guess it's always happy hour in some time zone, right?
Greg
BicheSpice
Love the zine! Love the editor! At $18.00 it is a BARGAIN! The website
barely touches the print edition.
In fact, I just renewed for two years.
As far as Mr. Jorden mocking opera ... I have spent some wonderful evenings at
the opera in his company and he has always been extremely knowledgable about
the productions, singers, and history of the operas. I can't imagine him ever
mocking something that clearly means so much to him.
Bitchy Spice
mdclark
So....which is it?! The Un-nameable One says $28.00
You say $18.00.......Subscribing minds want to know.
MDC
PS. I would consider it a pleasure to be reviewed by the likes of Mr.
Jorden.....good review or bad, I would have serious "meat" for
contemplation.
Leah Coffin
In article <353a56ca...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, mdc...@ix.netcom.com
(mdclark) wrote:
> So....which is it?! The Un-nameable One says $28.00
> You say $18.00.......Subscribing minds want to know.
>
$18 for US subscribers, $28 in US funds for all others.
--
Leah C.
lco...@brynmawr.edu
"When talking to dogs, sometimes you must bark." -Paul List
daniel kessler
The ‘meat' in this case is the thing we all love so much--opera, with
apologies to' the Bard', James Jorden mocks the very meat [opera] that he
feeds on. Jorden is apparently incapable of making few if any serious
posts these days, so busy is he hate mongering and verminating his sheets
and towels with anal lubricants and using risky sexual behavior as a
metaphor to describe opera performances [Malfitano stains the Carpet].
Some of us have noticed that Jorden's postings have taken on more and
more of the sensational tactics of tabloid journalism in fitful attempts
to increase his 500 or so subscription base of his
‘in-your-face-confrontational' style gay-queer publication-- $28 each =
$14,000 annually--hardly enough to sustain a life style in Manhattan.
Chas
As usual Kessler you've screwed things up. The phrase is "Jorden bites the
meat that porks him". Okay? Have you got it now?
--
"Eschew Obfuscation"--- William F. Buckley
daniel kessler wrote in message <6he6di$94h$1...@news.cybernex.net>...
>The 僧eat' in this case is the thing we all love so much--opera, with
>apologies to' the Bard', James Jorden mocks the very meat [opera] that he
>feeds on. Jorden is apparently incapable of making few if any serious
>posts these days, so busy is he hate mongering and verminating his sheets
>and towels with anal lubricants and using risky sexual behavior as a
>metaphor to describe opera performances [Malfitano stains the Carpet].
>
>Some of us have noticed that Jorden's postings have taken on more and
>more of the sensational tactics of tabloid journalism in fitful attempts
>to increase his 500 or so subscription base of his
>訴n-your-face-confrontational' style gay-queer publication-- $28 each =
Michael Black
daniel kessler wrote:
> Could it be that this 'Bitchy Spice' person is really Michael Black in
> 'drag'. Does anyone remember 'Michele Nero' or 'Mario Cavaradossi' who
> were later unmasked as Michael Black?
Oh, I only wish I could have the witty writing style of Ms. Bitchy Spice, but alas I
do not. Does anyone remember Danny Boy Kessler being....wait a second...we've
always known he's a bloated buffoon...
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Eduardo J. Aguilar
I had the pleasure of attending an Ariadne auf Naxos in Edinburgh couple
days ago so I had the chance to get a programme of the Edinburgh festival
(16 august-5 september 1998) so I will share it with you all just in case
somebody can be interested. Please feel free for asking me for further
information:
- DON CARLOS (sung in french with english supertitles)(17th, 20th, 25th,
28th at 6.00pm) by B Haitink: K Mattila, V Urmana, C Berthon, J Gavin, T
Robinson, T Hampson, F Furlanetto, S Coliban and K Rydl.
- I MASNADIERI (sung in italian with english supertitles)(19th, 21st, 24th
at 7.15pm) by Sir Edward Downes: P Deligatti, F Farina, T Robinson D
Hovorostovsky G Quinn, C Colombara and J Konstantinov.
- GIOVANNA D'ARCO (sung in italian)(22nd at 7.15pm) by Richard Armstrong: Z
Vassileva, A Michaels-Moore and A Slater.
- LUISA MILLER (sung in italian)(23rd and 26th at 7.15pm) by Mark Elder: E
Kelessidi, R Philogene, L Jones, I Encinas, A Agache, B Tumanyan and P
Burchuladze.
- DALIBOR (sung in czech with english supertitles)(3rd and 5th at 7.15pm)
by Richard Armstrong: K Broderick, P Straka, V Tierney, S Allen, M Best, C
Purves, W McCue.
- LIBUSE (sung in czech; concert performance)(4th at 7.15pm) by Oliver von
Dohnányi: E Urbanová, H Kaupová, D Slepsková, LM Vodicka, P Mikulás, J
Sulzenko, J Kubik and I Kusnjer.
BOOKING: telephone and counter booking opened the 18th of April:
0131 473 2000
+44 131 473 2000 if phoning from overseas
Hope it helps.
Eduardo,
Mallardo7
Daniel Kessler wrote:
>Unless Jorden has David Geffin funding him, I can't help but wonder how
>long he can continue. I happen to have met David Geffin a few times--I
>wouldn't describe myself as a friend of his. However, I do not recall
>that he had any interest in opera.
>
Mr. Jorden's earlier take-off on a typical Kessler post was quite funny but no
one can top the original!!!
Matthew B. Tepper
Eduardo J. Aguilar wrote:
>
> I had the pleasure of attending an Ariadne auf Naxos in Edinburgh
> couple days ago so I had the chance to get a programme of the
> Edinburgh festival (16 august-5 september 1998) so I will share it
> with you all just in case somebody can be interested. Please feel free
> for asking me for further information:
Any particular reason they're doing nothing but Verdi and Smetana? (Hm,
greens with sour cream -- doesn't sound bad, really.)
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BicheSpice
My! Revelations! Now we hobnob with David Geffin! I'll bet we are familiar
with George Michael as well. And perhaps a certain park named after America's
favorite humorist? One that has "I never met a man I didn't like" carved in its
entrance? What other trivia will be disclosed? Tune in tomorrow for another
edition of "As Kessler Turns."
No, Mr. Kessler. I am not Michael Black in Bitchy clothing. Besides, it would
be rather "anal" of me to say that I had seen my own photograph and considered
myself "cute," now, wouldn't it? Something only an egocentric name-dropper
would do, perhaps?
And, for the record, I know the difference between LE PROPHETE and LES
HUGUENOTS. As I am sure people from the wonderful Meyerbeer Fan Club will tell
you, once you have seen one Meyerbeer opera, you have NOT seen them all.
Until tomorrow. Same time. Same channel.
Air kisses to both cheeks.
Bitchy Spice (who is not Michael Black)
dtritter
daniel kessler wrote:
>
[snip ... though probably not enough]
> Some of us have noticed
"Some of us" ...there's that dimwit danny-ism that means that he's
begging somebody, anybody, to agree with his smarmy hits. The ones he
drags out are inevitably dead [Mrs. Rayner], the helpless [poor Walter
Surovy], or the anonymous, too bored to second him.
> that Jorden's postings have taken on more and> more of the sensational tactics of tabloid journalism in fitful attempts> to increase his 500 or so subscription base of his> ‘in-your-face-confrontational' style gay-queer publication-- $28 each => $14,000 annually--hardly enough to sustain a life style in Manhattan.
One wonders where dimwit danny got the circulation figure, JJ's mag not
being ABC audited, or did he, as with most of his straw men, invent it
for the occasion, or did he get a real number and lie about it, a not
uncommon practice in his inarticulate and illiterate polemics? And
dimwit danny, ever the self-anointed arbiter of Manhattan life styles,
now tells us how much it does or doesn't take to sustain a life style.
Is it his life? One prays it isn't his style.
> Even so, the Internal Revenue Service requires that a business entity
> show a profit once in a while before one can make a practice of charge
> everything off as a lifestyle loss.
Ah, now it comes out. dimwit danny is now an expert on the IRS. Does he
know what kind of business it is that he's dissecting? Is he an IRS
officer? What section of the Code is being discussed? The one on
lifestyle losses? For all he knows, it is a hobby, maybe a
not-for-profit corporation. One had thought that our vacuum-skulled
interloper was already a frequent flyer in opera, literature, music,
travel, scuba diving [not deep enough].He has now added publishing and
the Internal Revenue Code to his catalogue of subjects where his feigned
knowledge is undressed as a sham perpetrated by a wannabe remittance
man.
Speaking of frequent flyers, isn't it time he left us on one of his
trips, too soon paraded before us in the bragadoccio one usually
reserves for a head waiter? Yo, Vinnie, get dis guy a table near da Big
Mac display!
dft
James Jorden
daniel kessler wrote:
>
> Jorden's 'zine' has had a reasonable run and still doesn't turn a profit.
Once more: it's a hobby, not a business. You are not my audience, and
so it only makes sense that you would not find the magazine particularly
interesting. Others have different tastes, and they seem to enjoy it;
their subscriptions are what supports this very pleasurable enterprise.
When I think that there are some who spend many thousands of dollars a
year on their pleasures, I think myself particularly lucky that I can
have so much fun without spending a penny! (That the magazine is widely
regarded by operatic professionals as honest and knowledgeable is a nice
bonus, too.)
--
james jorden
jjo...@ix.netcom.com
latest opera gossip from parterre box:
http://www.anaserve.com/~parterre/lacieca.htm
daniel kessler
mdc...@ix.netcom.com (mdclark) wrote:
>On 19 Apr 1998 16:09:24 GMT, biche...@aol.com (BicheSpice) wrote:
>
>>Love the zine! Love the editor! At $18.00 it is a BARGAIN! The website
>>barely touches the print edition.
>>
>>In fact, I just renewed for two years.
>>
>>As far as Mr. Jorden mocking opera ... I have spent some wonderful evenings at
>>the opera in his company and he has always been extremely knowledgable about
>>the productions, singers, and history of the operas. I can't imagine him ever
>>mocking something that clearly means so much to him.
>>
>>Bitchy Spice
>
>You say $18.00.......Subscribing minds want to know.
Could it be that this 'Bitchy Spice' person is really Michael Black in
daniel kessler
Jorden's 'zine' has had a reasonable run and still doesn't turn a profit.
long he can continue. I happen to have met David Geffin a few times--I
wouldn't describe myself as a friend of his. However, I do not recall
that he had any interest in opera.
adoration and I suspect that there is a limit to the marketability of
such a product.
Salome45
>To me, Jorden is just one big, out of control ego that is looking for
>adoration a
Well, if THAT isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don;t know what is.
Amanda
Marc Musnick
Jorden's publication is informative and a lot of fun, and so is the web
site. It is far more interesting than New York's "other" opera publication.
All of us who post regularly have big egos and there's nothing unhealthy
about that.
--
Marc Musnick
e-mail address: mmus...@bellatlantic.net
BicheSpice
Another day, another tirade.
As Kessler Spews (Oh, excuse me. I mean Turns) ... a continuing saga.
For the record the bald look is intentional. It's pretty hot, if you ask me
(but, of course, you didn't, did you?). I have also seen Mr. Jordan with hair
(fairly recently) and he looks equally hot. I would guess that if he is indeed
"home alone" on Saturday nights, it is because he prefers it that way.
From frequent name-dropping posts, we know that Mr. Kessler is too busy with
his social life (David Geffin! Oooo! Ahhh!) to be caught home on a Saturday
night.
Ah, well. Each to his own.
"I've always depended on the kindness of strangers" ... but, honey, you are too
strange for the Spice Girl.
I must hence to the garden. "The cala lilies are in bloom."
Bitchy Spice
davs...@soho.pratt.edu
I just subscribed to this newsgroup around a month ago. Who are these guys?
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daniel kessler
dtritter <dtri...@bway.net> wrote:
>One wonders where dimwit danny got the circulation figure, JJ's mag not
>being ABC audited, or did he, as with most of his straw men, invent it
I don't have to invent what information Jorden gave out himself--500 or
so subscribers, he told a radio audience. He didn't tell us that he's
short and bald as a billiard cue but he did admit that it was 'home
alone' on Saturday nights! Poor little troll!
daniel kessler
biche...@aol.com (BicheSpice) wrote:
>Bitchy Spice--can you find yourself another name?
When this 'Bitchy Spice' person first appeared, some of us thought that
this moniker would fortell someone who could offer some 'zest' or even
'pungency' to the threads of r.m.o.
How disappointing to find that its just another dreary Jorden clone!
Salome45
>I just subscribed to this newsgroup around a month ago. Who are these guys?
daniel kessler: also known as Dimwit Danny....annoying, name-dropping @$$
Sara freeman: Troll extraordinaire
Amanda: wonderful, vivacious 17 year old ;)
James Jorden: witty, fun, tongue in cheek <please don't kill me, James, you
know I love you!> opera queen
Tom Moran<not related to this thread at ALL, but what the hell, he's on r.m.o>:
my very best friend ;)
Amanda, the witty vivacious 17 year old
Sara Freeman
In <199804220222...@ladder03.news.aol.com> salo...@aol.com
Sometimes you can judge people by the company they keep.
James Jorden
daniel kessler wrote:
>
> dtritter <dtri...@bway.net> wrote:
> I don't have to invent what information Jorden gave out himself--500 or
> so subscribers, he told a radio audience. He didn't tell us that he's
> short
I am 5' 10" tall. 6 feet even in my boots, which is most of the time.
> and bald as a billiard cue
Wrong. I am as bald as a billiard BALL.
> but he did admit that it was 'home alone' on Saturday nights!
One must have a respite from revelry and adulation once a week, at
least.
BicheSpice
Ah, dear Mr. Kessler,
Kindly point to the part where I wrote: "Bitchy Spice - can you find yourself
another name?"
Although I am not a "dreary Jorden clone (we look nothing alike)" I would
certainly be honored for that to come to pass. Mr. Jorden's knowledge of
things operatic is considerable. And he probably knows the difference between
PROPHETE and HUGUENOTS, and the words "annal" and "anal" as well. He is also
the editor of opera's most witty, informative magazine. The jury is still out
as to what you do when you aren't hanging out with people from California.
Far better than becoming an egocentric name-dropping babboon. Or is that
buffoon.
Bitchy Spice (who will survive)
dtritter
daniel kessler wrote:
>
> ....as of late James Jorden has been attracting the 'facial jewelry'
> crowd at Met intermissions.
>
> Question: Has Amanda been out to have her septum pierced yet?
We know that dimwit danny spent $60 per hour for some tekkie to teach
him how to use his computer [and he visibly flunked the course], but his
posts consistently bear a date and time a day ahead of the rest of us,
even those in the same [eastern] time zone.
Question: is this the wave of the future?
Likely answer: I faint, I fall, I vomit.
Repugnant though the piercings, danglings and other dermatological
bric-a-brac are to me, I still will take one of their wearers to a
thousand of the dimwit danny's whose face cannot conceal the vacuum
behind it.
Is there irony to the fact that he boasts of acquaintance with an avowed
out of the closet gay named David Geffen. Ah, but Geffen is super-rich!
Once again, the unprincipled dimwit danny demonstrates that money cures
everything. Keep those cards and remittances coming!
dft
Salome45
>....as of late James Jorden has been attracting the 'facial jewelry'
>crowd at Met intermissions.
>
>Question: Has Amanda been out to have her septum pierced yet?
>
>
to answer you, NO, she has not, and doesn't plan on it. the only parts of my
body that are pierced are my earlobes..and they shall remain the only part of
me pierced....so tell me, Dan...what parts of YOUR body are pierced? or dare I
ask..?
daniel kessler
Eduardo J. Aguilar
I have no idea why only Verdi and Smetana. I have reviewed the programme I
got at the theater and they do not go much further than recognizing their
focus on both composers. They go over the relationship between Verdi and
Schiller. It seems (I just found out) that the four operas are based on
Schiller's plays. 'A unique opportunity to explore in depth the
relationship between composer and dramatist' according to the programme. I
guess they'd rather deepen on one issue than going on several matters on a
more superficial way.
Matthew B. Tepper <duckyþ@deltanet.com> escribió en artículo
<353BA5...@deltanet.com>...
Marc Musnick
Mr. Kessler, can't you find something more dignified to do with your time?
You seem obsessed with him. By the way, don't even think of dragging me
into this. Fair warning, sir. Ok? Drop it already, I'm sure you have more
interesting things to say.
daniel kessler wrote:
> dtritter <dtri...@bway.net> wrote:
>
> >One wonders where dimwit danny got the circulation figure, JJ's mag not
> >being ABC audited, or did he, as with most of his straw men, invent it
> I don't have to invent what information Jorden gave out himself--500 or
> so subscribers, he told a radio audience. He didn't tell us that he's
> short and bald as a billiard cue but he did admit that it was 'home
> alone' on Saturday nights! Poor little troll!
Andrew Taines
daniel kessler wrote:
>
> Jorden's 'zine' has had a reasonable run and still doesn't turn a profit.
Why is Mr. Kessler so concerned with whether "Parterre Box" is a profitable
operation?
> Unless Jorden has David Geffin funding him, I can't help but wonder how
> long he can continue. I happen to have met David Geffin a few times--I
> wouldn't describe myself as a friend of his. However, I do not recall
> that he had any interest in opera.
Mr. Kessler obviously doesn't know Mr. Geffen well enough to spell his name
correctly.
> To me, Jorden is just one big, out of control ego that is looking for
> adoration and I suspect that there is a limit to the marketability of
> such a product.
Has Mr. Kessler ever heard of the world of opera? The marketability of big, out
of control egos is flourishing.
--
Andrew Taines
and...@sprintmail.com